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(Army Times)   Can a chaplain be a "bad ass?" Because this one who will receive the Medal Of Honor 62 years after his death sure sounds like it   (armytimes.com) divider line 48
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2013-04-07 09:39:01 PM  
Wow, what a read. Worthy use of the hero tag.
 
2013-04-07 10:28:44 PM  
Does he kick ass for the Lord?
 
2013-04-07 10:30:33 PM  

miss diminutive: Wow, what a read. Worthy use of the hero tag.


Seconded. Thanks subby.
 
2013-04-07 10:31:55 PM  
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
Vaya con dios.
 
2013-04-07 10:32:06 PM  
Then almost miraculously, Miller saw a slender GI approaching across a dirt road. As he neared, Miller noticed a small cross on the soldier's helmet. Kapaun simply pushed the enemy aside - shockingly, without retribution.

"Why he never shot him," Miller says, "I'll never know. I'll never know. ... I think the Lord was there directing him what to do."


Good thing the Norks weren't religious or at worst Islamists otherwise the good chaplain would've been tortured and murdered also.
 
2013-04-07 10:33:06 PM  
first! hahaha just kidding im new here.
 
2013-04-07 10:37:43 PM  
Dusty in here...

I am not worthy to walk in that mans shadow, but he would have carried me had I been there...
 
2013-04-07 10:42:18 PM  
Rest in peace, padre. You were a Christian worthy of capitalization, and an American we can all look up to. Thank you for your service to you country, but even more for your service to mankind.
 
2013-04-07 10:42:57 PM  
"Preacher ... don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?"

"It does.  It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps."
 
2013-04-07 10:44:45 PM  
He tried really hard to be the Shepard, Ringo.
 
2013-04-07 10:45:29 PM  
And the are trying to get him sainted too...
 
2013-04-07 10:47:04 PM  
Valhalla will vie with Heaven for the honor of having him.
 
2013-04-07 10:48:24 PM  
Wasn't this one a boxer?

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-07 10:48:34 PM  
My Uncle, the most mild-mannered Episcopal priest you could ever meet, was a Distinguished Service Cross winner and a bad-ass Nazi machine-gun nest taker-outer. And this was after they shot him through the face as he charged the nests.
He than collapsed and was stacked with all the other dead guys from the Battle of the Bulge, and only made it because someone heard him groaning and got him a transfusion in time.

Still alive and kicking at 89, counseling wounded Iraq/Afghan vets at Camp Pendleton.
 
2013-04-07 10:55:26 PM  
My old Lutheran minister got called to be a chaplain for the Canadian Forces. He had been asked before and had turned it down but the second time i guess he felt he could do good for them. They are lucky to have him.

I dont know if he is still in the military -- i know in 2008 he was in Afghanistan...

Maj. Kevin Kline -- hes a Lutheran chaplain in the Canadian forces -- i know a few farkers have served over there and i wonder if anyone met him. Its impossible to find anything on him online because he shares a famous name...

He's probly the only dude i would ever go back into a church to listen to. He was by far the most down to earth nice guy/husband/dad. Chaplains have a tough job. They have to sit there and watch people die inside all day. It doesn't sound fun. He was smart and rational and compassionate. I stopped going to church soon after he left. The other guys were just pious and stuffy. I had just learned religion from a guy who though being a true christian meant throwing yourself into the world rather than shutting parts of it out and so many churches focus on the opposite. He was about compassion and doing what was right in your heart -- fire and brimstone never even factored into the picture.

Reverend Kevin Kline -- anyone ever meet him over in Kosovo or Afghanistan? Hes fantastic.
 
2013-04-07 10:59:14 PM  

0Icky0: Still alive and kicking at 89, counseling wounded Iraq/Afghan vets at Camp Pendleton.


Holy crap -- when he reads his sermons does he just rest his bible on his enormous balls or what?

He's old but damnit i bet those things are to big and brassy to sag. I bet they clank. Props to grandpa man!
 
2013-04-07 11:00:58 PM  
Yes. Yes a chaplain can be a bad-arse. Case in point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_T._O%27Callahan

Chaplain on my grandpa's boat in WW2, the Franklin, CV-13. They were gearing up for a seige on Japan in 1945, so there was ammunition, bombs, and fuel drums stored outside of the usual storage rooms (grandpa told me that about half the WC's were blocked with drums of aviation fuel). They got hit bad by a kamakaze pilot, setting off a devastating series of internal explosions. Father O'Callahan went back inside the decks, staying to give last rites and tend to the wounded with bombs and ammunition exploding inside the ship. and then he lead a damage control crew trying to dump the excess ammo and bombs.
 
2013-04-07 11:01:33 PM  
What a story, and what a man.
 
2013-04-07 11:02:31 PM  
i.imgur.com
A bigger bad ass.
 
2013-04-07 11:03:33 PM  
www.curragh-labs.org
 
2013-04-07 11:07:32 PM  

detritus: [i.imgur.com image 316x463]
A bigger bad ass.


Pass! Pass!
 
2013-04-07 11:10:13 PM  
The true mark of greatness is that your actions can be admired by anyone. And this guy seems to fit the bill.

/I am not a Christian.
//I am human, though.
///Respect for this man.
 
2013-04-07 11:18:24 PM  
Some other Chaplains who have been awarded the Medal of Honor:

John Milton Whitehead (USA- ACW)
Francis Bloodgood Hall (USA-  ACW)
Milton Lorenzi Haney (USA-  ACW)
Joseph Timothy O'Callahan (USN-  WW2)
Vincent Robert Capodanno (USN-  VN)
Charles Joseph Watters (USA-  VN)
Charles James Angelo Liteky (USA-  VN)


James Hill (USA- ACW) was a Baptist preacher, but was not serving as a chaplain when he earned his medal.

I'd argue the four chaplains of the Dorchester should have been awarded the MoH as well.
 
2013-04-07 11:22:53 PM  

WeenerGord: detritus: [i.imgur.com image 316x463]
A bigger bad ass.

Pass! Pass!


Sorry bro, I'm dashing for a field goal.
 
2013-04-07 11:49:29 PM  
As a Veteran,
Thanhs, Subby...
 
2013-04-07 11:54:34 PM  
Even my atheist self can dig what this guy did. He's a Man among men. Good to see he gets the recognition he deserves.
 
2013-04-08 12:25:52 AM  

dj_bigbird: Even my atheist self can dig what this guy did. He's a Man among men. Good to see he gets the recognition he deserves.


Likewise. I developed great respect for military Chaplains; not only can they cut through red tape like no one's business, they stand ready to serve everyone of any faith or none. I learned early on that they are the serviceman's best friend possible, though they carry no arms. Good on him.
 
2013-04-08 12:30:49 AM  
Now, this man is a good Christian.  He'd have been a good Muslim or a good Jew if he'd followed either of those faiths.  Why can't groups like WBC follow his example, so a town might rejoice to see them come riding in?

My hat's off to Father Kapaun.

/my grandfather died in Korean
//he flew the F-86
 
2013-04-08 12:31:16 AM  

WeenerGord: Does he kick ass for the Lord?


Done in two, and omeganuepsilon with the screencap.

If I can still remember that movie, I need to drink more.
 
2013-04-08 12:31:24 AM  

ModernLuddite: The true mark of greatness is that your actions can be admired by anyone. And this guy seems to fit the bill.

/I am not a Christian.
//I am human, though.
///Respect for this man.


Agree. Am an atheist, but have nothing but admiration for this guy and holy farkballs what a goddamned hellhole. :(

And to the guy who's Grandpa was in WWII...give him a huge huge hug from me (but you don't have to tell him who it's from if it's weird ;)). Nothing but respect, admiration and rock star farking awe for these vets.
 
2013-04-08 12:38:42 AM  
Wow.  Chaplain Kapaun only gets one MoH?   Deserves more than that, from all the accounts.  Sounds like a true Christian and an exceptional human being.  His story reminds me of another MoH recipient, Desmond Doss , another man cut from the same cloth, although he wasn't a man of the cloth.
 
2013-04-08 12:40:53 AM  
omeganuepsilon

came here for this
 
2013-04-08 12:41:24 AM  

fugeeface: Wow.  Chaplain Kapaun only gets one MoH?   Deserves more than that, from all the accounts.  Sounds like a true Christian and an exceptional human being.  His story reminds me of another MoH recipient, Desmond Doss , another man cut from the same cloth, although he wasn't a man of the cloth.


Have tremendous respect too for those who chose not to fight due to beliefs, but still provide support for their country in this way. You don't have to agree with war, or a specific war in order to aid the wounded.

There should be trading cards of these people instead of bullshiat sports 'heroes'.
 
2013-04-08 12:42:12 AM  
According to my brothers, military chaplains were by far the best of the ministerial breed. They also knew all the best dirty jokes. Hats off to this guy -- I would say "May his memory be a blessing" but it sounds like it already is, and then some.
 
2013-04-08 12:50:19 AM  

Lady Indica: fugeeface: Wow.  Chaplain Kapaun only gets one MoH?   Deserves more than that, from all the accounts.  Sounds like a true Christian and an exceptional human being.  His story reminds me of another MoH recipient, Desmond Doss , another man cut from the same cloth, although he wasn't a man of the cloth.

Have tremendous respect too for those who chose not to fight due to beliefs, but still provide support for their country in this way. You don't have to agree with war, or a specific war in order to aid the wounded.

There should be trading cards of these people instead of bullshiat sports 'heroes'.


This.  And, this.  As for those trading cards, that would be a hell of a collection.  "I'll trade you my Audie Murphy for your Emil Kapaun."
 
2013-04-08 12:59:05 AM  

Lady Indica: And to the guy who's Grandpa was in WWII...give him a huge huge hug from me (but you don't have to tell him who it's from if it's weird ;)). Nothing but respect, admiration and rock star farking awe for these vets.


My Uncle.
I'll see him in a few months at my dad's funeral.
The coolest thing that I didn't mention was that none of us had any idea that he won the DSC. He told nobody (or maybe only his parents) until just last year.
All we knew was that he was severely wounded. We knew nothing of the captured machine gun nests, or killed and captured Germans.
And it should also be noted that he is the libbiest lib in his generation. I remember his arguments against the Vietnam war and how others in my family told him that he just did't understand.
Right.....

/he also once interviewed Albert Einstein for the "One World" magazine that he worked for.
 
2013-04-08 01:17:40 AM  

mikefinch: 0Icky0: Still alive and kicking at 89, counseling wounded Iraq/Afghan vets at Camp Pendleton.

Holy crap -- when he reads his sermons does he just rest his bible on his enormous balls or what?

He's old but damnit i bet those things are to big and brassy to sag. I bet they clank. Props to grandpa man!


I know this is a serious thread, but that actually made me LOL. As far as that old pastor of yours, I know one just like him. He became bishop a couple years ago, and I haven't been to church since.
 
2013-04-08 01:21:58 AM  

fugeeface: As for those trading cards, that would be a hell of a collection.  "I'll trade you my Audie Murphy for your Emil Kapaun."


"Bullshiat. Who in his right mind would trade an Audie Murphy?"
 
2013-04-08 01:31:20 AM  

Spaced Lion: fugeeface: As for those trading cards, that would be a hell of a collection.  "I'll trade you my Audie Murphy for your Emil Kapaun."

"Bullshiat. Who in his right mind would trade an Audie Murphy?"


"Umm...I have two.  I'll throw in a 'General Washington astride his horse' as well as my 'Gong Show Rip Taylor' card, too."
 
2013-04-08 02:17:11 AM  
I went to a catholic high school named after Fr. Kapaun, so I'm getting a kick out of these comments.

/ so is Sister Mary Claira's invisible, flying cat
 
2013-04-08 02:36:09 AM  
Props.

 Why can't guys like this get the media instead of the nutcases like WBC?

/hero tag is more than earned.
 
2013-04-08 04:23:08 AM  

cuzsis: Props.

 Why can't guys like this get the media instead of the nutcases like WBC?

/hero tag is more than earned.


Because bad news sells. It's how we're wired. Good stories give us warm fuzzies, but bad things set off our radar, we want to know about the bad because we're wired to be hypersensitive to anything bad that happens within 'our circle', the closer to home it is, the more it sets off our need to know.

This is why gossip of celebs sells more than warm fuzzies too. We're wired social to NEED to know who is farking whom. And celebrities are people who's names we know...but they don't know yours. So they're 'in' our monkey group with alpha status.

So...wiring, and biz. Biz wants to make money and wiring makes us favor that type of biz. Stupid monkeys. ;)
 
2013-04-08 04:33:18 AM  
Meh

www.gamezilla.ca
 
2013-04-08 07:55:50 AM  

Speaking of Chaplain heroes I respectfully direct your attention to the following:

At Dieppe on 19th August 1942, Honorary Captain Foote, Canadian Chaplain Services, was Regimental Chaplain with the Royal Hamilton Light Infantry.


'Upon landing on the beach under heavy fire he attached himself to the Regimental Aid Post which had been set up in a slight depression on the beach, but which was only sufficient to give cover to men lying down. During the subsequent period of approximately eight hours, while the action continued, this officer not only assisted the Regimental Medical Officer in ministering to the wounded in the Regimental Aid Post, but time and again left this shelter to inject morphine, give first-aid and carry wounded personnel from the open beach to the Regimental Aid Post. On these occasions, with utter disregard for his personal safety, Honorary Captain Foote exposed himself to an inferno of fire and saved many lives by his gallant efforts.During the action, as the tide went out, the Regimental Aid Post was moved to the shelter of a stranded landing craft. Honorary Captain Foote continued tirelessly and courageously to carry wounded men from the exposed beach to the cover of the landing craft. He also removed wounded from inside the landing craft when ammunition had been set on fire by enemy shells. When landing craft appeared he carried wounded from the Regimental Aid Post to the landing craft through heavy fire. On several occasions this officer had the opportunity to embark but returned to the beach as his chief concern was the care and evacuation of the wounded. He refused a final opportunity to leave the shore, choosing to suffer the fate of the men he had ministered to for over three years.Honorary Captain Foote personally saved many lives by his efforts and his example inspired all around him. Those who observed him state that the calmness of this heroic officer as he walked about, collecting the wounded on the fire-swept beach will never be forgotten.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Weir_Foote

Padre Foote, when pulled into one of the last boats leaving the beach at Dieppe jumped out of the boat saying "My boys here need me more" and marched into captivity.
 
2013-04-08 09:07:28 AM  
Crazy fools, the Irish.

www.christianfighterpilot.com
 
2013-04-08 11:19:11 AM  
Many of these men simply realize that good men live but one life, and heroes live forever.
 
2013-04-08 12:35:53 PM  
I read this story a few days ago and was amazed. Men like him should never be forgotten and their actions are greater than what any evil person can do.

I'm not religious at all in fact my Dogtags say "No Rel Pref" but when I was overseas I saw and did things that one would expect to see and do. Even though I never walked into a chapel or talked with a chaplain I picked up a bible and reading it made me feel better.

Glad to see that man was awarded the MOH.
 
2013-04-08 06:04:38 PM  

Wolfmanjames: Some other Chaplains who have been awarded the Medal of Honor:

John Milton Whitehead (USA- ACW)
Francis Bloodgood Hall (USA-  ACW)
Milton Lorenzi Haney (USA-  ACW)
Joseph Timothy O'Callahan (USN-  WW2)
Vincent Robert Capodanno (USN-  VN)
Charles Joseph Watters (USA-  VN)
Charles James Angelo Liteky (USA-  VN)


James Hill (USA- ACW) was a Baptist preacher, but was not serving as a chaplain when he earned his medal.

I'd argue the four chaplains of the Dorchester should have been awarded the MoH as well.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Chaplains%27_Medal

They got an equivalent medal made specially for them (MoH requires they perform the heroic acts under fire)
 
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