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(YouTube)   Thirteen-year-old Iranian girl sings Death to America. Just kidding...she totally nails Adele's 'Someone Like You'   (youtube.com) divider line 23
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2013-04-07 09:35:12 PM
What I find most interesting about this video is how it demonstrates how we process language and music differently. This girl may or may not understand English, but from the fluency with which she was speaking Arabic (Urdu?) it's almost certain that she'd have an accent if she were speaking the words she's singing, but in a song your brain treats words as sounds, not words. It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.
 
2013-04-07 10:00:24 PM

nmrsnr: What I find most interesting about this video is how it demonstrates how we process language and music differently. This girl may or may not understand English, but from the fluency with which she was speaking Arabic (Urdu?) it's almost certain that she'd have an accent if she were speaking the words she's singing, but in a song your brain treats words as sounds, not words. It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.


Tim Lovelace:  "I got 2,000 minutes on my cell phone bill... only used six of 'em."  Then he sings The Stutter Song.
 
2013-04-07 10:25:10 PM
nmrsnr:  It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.

wut?  I know a several people who stutter and none of them can sing at all.  One can play the guitar pretty well.
 
2013-04-07 10:30:26 PM
that was awful especially starting at 1:55
 
2013-04-07 10:31:15 PM
See?  We're not so different.  Iranians like shiatty music too!

tenpoundsofcheese: nmrsnr:  It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.

wut?  I know a several people who stutter and none of them can sing at all.  One can play the guitar pretty well.


Never heard of Mel Tillis?
 
2013-04-07 10:53:20 PM

nmrsnr: What I find most interesting about this video is how it demonstrates how we process language and music differently. This girl may or may not understand English, but from the fluency with which she was speaking Arabic (Urdu?) it's almost certain that she'd have an accent if she were speaking the words she's singing, but in a song your brain treats words as sounds, not words. It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.


I knew a guy who stuttered all the time in normal speech, but while running, he could talk just fine.
 
2013-04-07 11:10:35 PM

Lionel Mandrake: See?  We're not so different.  Iranians like shiatty music too!

tenpoundsofcheese: nmrsnr:  It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.

wut?  I know a several people who stutter and none of them can sing at all.  One can play the guitar pretty well.

Never heard of Mel Tillis?


Because "a" person who stutters can sing does not mean that "people with stutters can sing"
 
2013-04-07 11:40:56 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: See?  We're not so different.  Iranians like shiatty music too!

tenpoundsofcheese: nmrsnr:  It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.

wut?  I know a several people who stutter and none of them can sing at all.  One can play the guitar pretty well.

Never heard of Mel Tillis?

Because "a" person who stutters can sing does not mean that "people with stutters can sing"


You expressed surprise at the idea, so I gave an example.  And Mel Tillis is not the only one.  It's not that unusual.  When you know what words to "say" and how and when to say them, stuttering often goes away.
 
2013-04-08 12:22:36 AM
Peat and Repeat were in a boat. Pete fell out. Who was left?
 
2013-04-08 12:24:29 AM
 
2013-04-08 12:27:52 AM
GO GIRL
 
2013-04-08 12:32:52 AM
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts,
with stoutest wrists and loudest boasts,
he thrusts his fists against the posts
and still insists he sees the ghosts.
 
2013-04-08 12:34:05 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: See?  We're not so different.  Iranians like shiatty music too!

tenpoundsofcheese: nmrsnr:  It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.

wut?  I know a several people who stutter and none of them can sing at all.  One can play the guitar pretty well.

Never heard of Mel Tillis?

Because "a" person who stutters can sing does not mean that "people with stutters can sing"


http://www.uiowa.edu/~comsci/research/stuttering/faq.html

Why do some people stutter when they speak, but don't have a problem when they sing?
There are a few reasons why people who stutter don't do so when they sing. One is called easy onset of speech, or easy voice, or smooth speech. This describes the way you sing. Think about it - you generally use a smoother and easier voice when you're singing versus when you're speaking. Speech therapists actually use the easy onset strategy when helping people who stutter. 

Another reason why a person may not stutter while singing is because words are more prolonged (and less apt to be stumbled over) when they're sung rather than spoken. Music is an activity in which you use the right side of the brain (language uses the left), so when you sing music, you're no longer using your left brain (and probably no longer stuttering).


The bottom line is this: Whenever a child or adult who stutters talks differently than the way he usually does, he will be fluent. That includes using a stage voice or a foreign accent or dialect, whispering, singing, speaking to a rhythmic beat, using 'baby talk' and speaking at a lower or higher pitch than normal. Besides sounding and feeling unnatural, however, these 'tricks' rarely produce long-term fluency.


Can you go back to the politics thread and just be obnoxious and wrong there instead of polluting ALL of Fark with your obnoxious pedantic stupidity?

Kthnx.  Preciatit.
 
2013-04-08 12:34:15 AM

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: See?  We're not so different.  Iranians like shiatty music too!

tenpoundsofcheese: nmrsnr:  It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.

wut?  I know a several people who stutter and none of them can sing at all.  One can play the guitar pretty well.

Never heard of Mel Tillis?

Because "a" person who stutters can sing does not mean that "people with stutters can sing"

You expressed surprise at the idea, so I gave an example.  And Mel Tillis is not the only one.  It's not that unusual.  When you know what words to "say" and how and when to say them, stuttering often goes away.


wowsie!  you found one person out of the millions of people who stutter.
well, that is a trend!

He also plays guitar which I mentioned that my stuttering friend can play guitar.
 
2013-04-08 12:35:16 AM

nmrsnr: What I find most interesting about this video is how it demonstrates how we process language and music differently. This girl may or may not understand English, but from the fluency with which she was speaking Arabic (Urdu?) it's almost certain that she'd have an accent if she were speaking the words she's singing, but in a song your brain treats words as sounds, not words. It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.


Dude, NEVER tell a Persian/Iranian they speak Arabic (or even Urdu) even though they may be bilingual or trilingual (based on areas that share borders with Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan). They mainly speak Farsi in Iran.

But, yes, I agree with you on how differently we process languages.  Here's another example of an Algerian girl who doesn't speak a lick of English, but I would have never known based on her rendition of Mercy (song starts at 1'21).
 
2013-04-08 12:40:52 AM
Stoning in 3... 2... 1....
 
2013-04-08 12:45:00 AM

nmrsnr: What I find most interesting about this video is how it demonstrates how we process language and music differently. This girl may or may not understand English, but from the fluency with which she was speaking Arabic (Urdu?) it's almost certain that she'd have an accent if she were speaking the words she's singing, but in a song your brain treats words as sounds, not words. It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.


Here's a video that demonstrates the opposite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQt-h753jHI
 
2013-04-08 12:49:02 AM
While singing english there are times you know she is just mimicking the noises and doesn't know the words. When she sings "nothing but the best for you" she sings "nothing but do best for you". Still not bad and it's weird to hear a singing voice you do not expect out of someone.
 
2013-04-08 12:50:31 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: See?  We're not so different.  Iranians like shiatty music too!

tenpoundsofcheese: nmrsnr:  It's possible that this is also the reason that people with stutters can sing with little difficulty.

wut?  I know a several people who stutter and none of them can sing at all.  One can play the guitar pretty well.

Never heard of Mel Tillis?

Because "a" person who stutters can sing does not mean that "people with stutters can sing"

You expressed surprise at the idea, so I gave an example.  And Mel Tillis is not the only one.  It's not that unusual.  When you know what words to "say" and how and when to say them, stuttering often goes away.

wowsie!  you found one person out of the millions of people who stutter.
well, that is a trend!

He also plays guitar which I mentioned that my stuttering friend can play guitar.


Aaaaaaaand you read nothing else I wrote (you now, about the waaaaaay more than one person who can do this?) or followed the link Bill_Wick's_Friend provided, proving quite clearly that you are ignorant in many topics other than politics.

Congrats!
 
2013-04-08 12:51:06 AM
 
2013-04-08 12:53:18 AM

lumiere: Dude, NEVER tell a Persian/Iranian they speak Arabic (or even Urdu) even though they may be bilingual or trilingual (based on areas that share borders with Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan). They mainly speak Farsi in Iran.


Thanks for correcting my ignorance, I thought Urdu was Iran.

ABQGOD: Here's a video that demonstrates the opposite:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQt-h753jHI


Not so much the opposite as a demonstration of how bad that woman's auditory acuity is. She was also processing Mariah Carey as sounds instead of words, just not sounds that were particularly close to the ones being sung. I thought you were gonna have a clip of someone who only stuttered while singing, which would be really weird.
 
2013-04-08 01:02:01 AM

wiredroach: http://www.fark.com/comments/6981711/The-best-Adele-cover-by-an-Irani a n-girl-youll-see-today

She's been doing it for a year?


Aww man, ya missed the joke set up.
 
2013-04-08 01:43:09 AM

nmrsnr: lumiere: Dude, NEVER tell a Persian/Iranian they speak Arabic (or even Urdu) even though they may be bilingual or trilingual (based on areas that share borders with Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan). They mainly speak Farsi in Iran.

Thanks for correcting my ignorance, I thought Urdu was Iran.

ABQGOD: Here's a video that demonstrates the opposite:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQt-h753jHI

Not so much the opposite as a demonstration of how bad that woman's auditory acuity is. She was also processing Mariah Carey as sounds instead of words, just not sounds that were particularly close to the ones being sung. I thought you were gonna have a clip of someone who only stuttered while singing, which would be really weird.


It's not ignorance! Some Iranians do speak Urdu, it's just not the national language. Just chalk it up to a complex region. :)
 
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