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2013-04-07 07:58:22 PM
randomjsa (farkied: "Holy fnck you're an idiot." - Nina_Hartley's_Ass): The two sides are Israel and a group of people who want them dead at any price and will never, ever, accept peace. Hamas will never under any circumstance accept anything short of the complete destruction of Israel and the death of every Jew in it. When the position is "we're going to kill every single solitary one of you and will stop at absolutely nothing to do it" where do you begin the process? Does it start with something like "Could you maybe only kill 80% of us?"

There is no concession Israel can make that would satisfy them. Wave around the '1967' border all you want and if Israel gave up completely on that point all that it would accomplish is giving people new places to fire rockets from... Just like what happened when Israel left Gaza. What did that accomplish? The Palestinians put Hamas in charge and celebrated with new rocket attacks. It is not in the interest of Israel for this to continue but it is in the interest of Israel's enemies that it continues, which is why it does continue.


So bomb the living schitt out of the Scary Mooselimbs.  That'll larn 'em to support Hamas.
 
2013-04-07 08:00:16 PM

Richard C Stanford: You do realize that Israel is the only functional democracy in the Middle East?


1. Why does that stop it from being a destabilizing force?
2. We generally don't consider countries that deny roughly 35% of the people under their control "democracies" these days.


owlie: since it's terrorists' homes that would get bulldozed (not the neighborhood),


You're in deep denial there, friend.
 
2013-04-07 08:02:44 PM

proteus_b: detritus: It took 3,000 Americans, .00001% of the US population to justify war with multiple countries that has been going on for 12 years. Your argument is ridiculous.

Yes, America can kill millions and it's somehow acceptable. But if a Jew does it, they are forever damned.

Maybe people who think that anyone who's not a red-blooded indian should be allowed to live in the territory currently occupied by the USA should "eat shiat and die".


Uh we were attacked in part because of our support for Israeli terrorism.
 
2013-04-07 08:04:35 PM

cptjeff: Richard C Stanford: You do realize that Israel is the only functional democracy in the Middle East?

1. Why does that stop it from being a destabilizing force?
2. We generally don't consider countries that deny roughly 35% of the people under their control "democracies" these days.


owlie: since it's terrorists' homes that would get bulldozed (not the neighborhood),

You're in deep denial there, friend.


Show me where terrorists' neighborhoods are being bulldozed as punishment.
 
2013-04-07 08:05:47 PM

owlie: Sorry, I didn't realize we were in conspiracy theory territory. How would Israelis possibly benefit from "subjugating" Palestinians? I really don't know how to respond to the rest, since it's terrorists' homes that would get bulldozed (not the neighborhood), checkpoints exist to keep terrorists and other ne'er-do-wells out (makes sense to me), many Arab Israelis live within Israel proper and those in the Palestinian territories have their own governments and police and so forth, and the settlements aren't as glamorous as you make them out to be so I won't even go there.


Conspiracy theory?  When you segregate a group of people, force them into impoverished ghettos, force them to go through security checkpoints and stand in line for hours, restrict their access to quality health care, take their land and give it to settlers, and deny their right to have a nation of their own, how does that not equal subjugation?  Please explain.

I'm going to guess that you can't.
 
2013-04-07 08:06:13 PM
Subby must live in his parents' McMansion basement.
 
2013-04-07 08:08:13 PM

owlie: cptjeff: Richard C Stanford: You do realize that Israel is the only functional democracy in the Middle East?

1. Why does that stop it from being a destabilizing force?
2. We generally don't consider countries that deny roughly 35% of the people under their control "democracies" these days.


owlie: since it's terrorists' homes that would get bulldozed (not the neighborhood),

You're in deep denial there, friend.

Show me where terrorists' neighborhoods are being bulldozed as punishment.


Read up, my friend.
 
2013-04-07 08:12:05 PM

liam76: super_grass: liam76:I have no problem saying they should 'clean up their act' but when people toss out genocude, concentration camps or nazis they are going beyond calls for cleaning their act up. They are just lying about the situation, and I can't think of reason aside from antisemitism to do that.

Again, Tibet. They have race-riots regularly too.  Sometimes started by the Tibetans, sometimes the Chinese.

Whether or not the accusations are fitting or not is still up in the air. It's just interesting that there is so much cognitive dissonance between America's views on the two even though China/Israel use a lot of similar arguments.

Hawaii sort of applies too if you think about the state's history.

There is nothing "up in the air" about those accusations. If you think otherwise you are ignorant or a liar.

There is no "cognitive dissonance". Was Tibet used to stage attacks from neighboring countries that vowed to wipe out the Chinese? Did Tibet ever rain rockets on China? Did a party in Tibet that vowed to remove all the Chinese from China ever come to power?


It was, the U.S. funded Tibetan guerrillas against China. Communist China felt that Tibet would be a launching pad for foreign interests, and rationalize it by pointing out how much the living standards improved under Chinese rule - which is true.
 
2013-04-07 08:12:53 PM
Lee451:
I am a Native American (meaning I was born here)

Yeah, all the Palestinians were born there too.

and part Powhatan Indian. What is your point?

If the US started blockades and forced all of you to live on designated reservations and prohibited (or required you to seek permission that takes 6+ months) to spend one day at the beach not on "your" land, how would you feel?  If we started taking your reservation land away and claimed it was ours all along, bulldozed your house, etc. and then called you a terrorist for fighting back, how would you feel?  Some of you might fight back when pushed to a breaking point.  Would you be justified in doing so?
 
2013-04-07 08:12:57 PM
Wow, a lot of people in this thread make me sick.  You have no idea what the history is between Israel and the Palestinians, and you have no idea how Israelis have suffered.  Do the Palestinians suffer?  Yes, they do, but I believe that it's a lot of their own doing.

I don't like what Israel has done to the Palestinians, but I like what the Palestinians have done to Israel even less.

If you'd really like to know what Anti-Semitism is, I think you should walk in one of our shoes for a little bit.  Most people keep their racist comments to when they're surrounded by a bunch of people of the same general make up.  I can't tell you how many people have shown their true colours around me, just because they think I'm white and Christian like they are.  Damn... I've even had people try and backpedal out of it when I inform them I'm Jewish. "Oh, I didn't mean YOU".  Yeah.  Sure you didn't.  "Jew down in price is just a term!"  Right.
 
2013-04-07 08:14:43 PM

phalaeo: Wow, a lot of people in this thread make me sick.  You have no idea what the history is between Israel and the Palestinians, and you have no idea how Israelis have suffered.  Do the Palestinians suffer?  Yes, they do, but I believe that it's a lot of their own doing.

I don't like what Israel has done to the Palestinians, but I like what the Palestinians have done to Israel even less.

If you'd really like to know what Anti-Semitism is, I think you should walk in one of our shoes for a little bit.  Most people keep their racist comments to when they're surrounded by a bunch of people of the same general make up.  I can't tell you how many people have shown their true colours around me, just because they think I'm white and Christian like they are.  Damn... I've even had people try and backpedal out of it when I inform them I'm Jewish. "Oh, I didn't mean YOU".  Yeah.  Sure you didn't.  "Jew down in price is just a term!"  Right.


Jews are fine.  Israel sucks.
 
2013-04-07 08:16:28 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Amos Quito: proteus_b: sheep snorter: Same things that Hitler did to the Jews(due to not a big enough budget to ship the jewish people to east Africa) , Israeli is doing to whats left of Palestine and its people.

This is why today is Holocaust Memorial Day. Because what Hitler did to the Jews, is not being done to the Arabs. Dozens of thousands of Arabs have been killed by Jews (and most of those were not civilians, if that matters to you) in the course of dozens of years of war. At no point have even one percent of the Arabs been murdered by Jews, let alone two thirds, in a nearly successful attempt to eliminate them all. When you make absurd comparisons like this, it makes it hard to take you seriously. Surely you have reasonable things to say---don't make reasonable people ignore you by making gross misstatements...


I happened to notice that sheep snorter used the phrases "Israel" and "Palestine and its people", and that in your response you chose (repeatedly) to use the words "Jews" and "Arabs".

Why is that, proteus_b?

Because geography is a lot harder when the term "Arab" is applied only to people with ancestry from the Arabian peninsula rather than as a generalized term for darkies.



I suspect that proteus_b Chose to call Palestinians "Arabs" because using the term "Palestinian" works against the Zionist agenda of dehumanizing them and refusing to acknowledge them AS A PEOPLE - which is especially important right now, as the Palestinians are striving for recognition as a State - and if that happens, it'll fark up the Zionists' ongoing policy of relentless oppression and expansion into Palestinian lands (for security purposes only, of course).

And proteus_b  replaced the term "Israel" with "Jews" because Zionists want to implant the idea that ALL Jews ARE Zionists, and Zionists ARE Jews - that the two terms are synonymous. That way they can pull the anti-Semite Card and accuse anyone who criticizes the actions of Israel and/or the Zionist POLITICAL ideology of "wanting to create another Holocaust ".

The word play is subtle psych warfare, isn't it, proteus_b?
 
2013-04-07 08:18:47 PM

SubBass49: Richard C Stanford: You know what, lets just move Israel someplace else. I mean, for God's sake, why is that area even worth fighting for? It's a bombed out wasteland that has nothing of real value. So why don't we just take all the monuments and stuff and establish New Israel in a place that doesn't suck? Palestinians get to have their crappy desert back and the Jews can live in a place that isn't a barren desert.
/Of course it would probably be two days before some jihadist declares that New Israel is located on "Holy Islamic Ground" and this whole shiate storm gets started again.

The fitting place for Israel would have been to slice out a nice portion of Germany, preferably in a nice portion of the South of the country, as punishment for the NAZI atrocities in WWII.



Wouldn't have worked.

The Zionists would never have gone for it.
 
2013-04-07 08:19:17 PM

noitsnot: Jews are fine.  Israel sucks.


BINGO!
 
2013-04-07 08:19:18 PM

anuran: Hating Jews is trendy again. All you have to do is call them "Zionists" and sky's the limit



Have you been following the JIDF posts?  Apparently you're either a Zionist or Hitler Reborn.  They are hilarious.
 
2013-04-07 08:21:23 PM

phalaeo: Wow, a lot of people in this thread make me sick.  You have no idea what the history is between Israel and the Palestinians, and you have no idea how Israelis have suffered.  Do the Palestinians suffer?  Yes, they do, but I believe that it's a lot of their own doing.

I don't like what Israel has done to the Palestinians, but I like what the Palestinians have done to Israel even less.


If you'd really like to know what Anti-Semitism is, I think you should walk in one of our shoes for a little bit.  Most people keep their racist comments to when they're surrounded by a bunch of people of the same general make up.  I can't tell you how many people have shown their true colours around me, just because they think I'm white and Christian like they are.  Damn... I've even had people try and backpedal out of it when I inform them I'm Jewish. "Oh, I didn't mean YOU".  Yeah.  Sure you didn't.  "Jew down in price is just a term!"  Right.


They were just scared you'd put a sheeny curse on them...


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-07 08:23:43 PM

SubBass49: owlie: cptjeff: Richard C Stanford: You do realize that Israel is the only functional democracy in the Middle East?

1. Why does that stop it from being a destabilizing force?
2. We generally don't consider countries that deny roughly 35% of the people under their control "democracies" these days.


owlie: since it's terrorists' homes that would get bulldozed (not the neighborhood),

You're in deep denial there, friend.

Show me where terrorists' neighborhoods are being bulldozed as punishment.

Read up, my friend.


I don't see where it says that neighborhoods have been bulldozed as punishment for terrorists originating from those neighborhoods.

SubBass49: owlie: Sorry, I didn't realize we were in conspiracy theory territory. How would Israelis possibly benefit from "subjugating" Palestinians? I really don't know how to respond to the rest, since it's terrorists' homes that would get bulldozed (not the neighborhood), checkpoints exist to keep terrorists and other ne'er-do-wells out (makes sense to me), many Arab Israelis live within Israel proper and those in the Palestinian territories have their own governments and police and so forth, and the settlements aren't as glamorous as you make them out to be so I won't even go there.

Conspiracy theory?  When you segregate a group of people, force them into impoverished ghettos, force them to go through security checkpoints and stand in line for hours, restrict their access to quality health care, take their land and give it to settlers, and deny their right to have a nation of their own, how does that not equal subjugation?  Please explain.

I'm going to guess that you can't.


How do you figure Israelis are forcing Palestinians to live in impoverished ghettos? Where do you propose they live instead, that would be sustainable especially given their rate of reproduction? And how do you propose reducing checkpoint delays while at the same time safeguarding Israel's national security? How do you figure Palestinians are being denied access to quality health care, when even would-be suicide bombers who have been injured often receive treatment in Israel proper because the treatment offered there is superior, and what responsibility does Israel have to offer health care to Palestinians anyway when they're free to build their own hospitals and receive plenty of foreign aid? What judgment do you pass on Palestinians who have usurped traditionally Jewish land, who have desecrated and destroyed ancient synagogues and monuments on land that was given to them, or on the Israeli government for evacuating Jews from land they have lived on for generations? Moreover, where is your indignation over Jews who were expelled from Middle Eastern countries, where many lived since biblical times? And can you show me where Palestinian leaders have called for a two-state solution and Israel would not sit down with them?
 
2013-04-07 08:24:17 PM
Zionists have been using the holocaust as a smokescreen to cover their own misdeeds for long enough.


THIS  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^
 
2013-04-07 08:25:44 PM

fatcurlytoes: stay classy, Jew-baiters.

(show me ONE instance where the folks who like to whine about Palestinians have ever given a rat's ass about Palestinian rights in Lebanon... in Syria where they have been literally being used as cannon fodder... in Egypt where the roads from Gaza are mined... and I'll show you a hallucination because it simply does not happen. Nobody cares, not really; but it sure is jolly fun times to make hysterical accusations of war crimes against tiny, embattled Israel - where rockets are literally landing in the north AND the south now.)

fark you, you know who you are.


My government does not give a green light to illegal actions by these governments.

As many have pointed out, Jewish is not 1-1 with current Israeli Government policy. I'm against Israeli Government policy, because it is anti American interests.

Nice try Israeli government supporter.
 
2013-04-07 08:27:27 PM

phalaeo: Wow, a lot of people in this thread make me sick.  You have no idea what the history is between Israel and the Palestinians, and you have no idea how Israelis have suffered.  Do the Palestinians suffer?  Yes, they do, but I believe that it's a lot of their own doing.

I don't like what Israel has done to the Palestinians, but I like what the Palestinians have done to Israel even less.

If you'd really like to know what Anti-Semitism is, I think you should walk in one of our shoes for a little bit.  Most people keep their racist comments to when they're surrounded by a bunch of people of the same general make up.  I can't tell you how many people have shown their true colours around me, just because they think I'm white and Christian like they are.  Damn... I've even had people try and backpedal out of it when I inform them I'm Jewish. "Oh, I didn't mean YOU".  Yeah.  Sure you didn't.  "Jew down in price is just a term!"  Right.


Bingo.

If Palestinians suffer, "they had it coming."

If Israelis suffer, its because of anti-semitism.

Must be nice when you can cloak war crimes in religious zeal and call it good.
 
2013-04-07 08:38:34 PM

owlie: Show me where terrorists' neighborhoods are being bulldozed as punishment


In 2006 four Israeli soldiers were killed.

In response Israel destroyed large portions of Beirut.

axisoflogic.com
 
2013-04-07 08:43:36 PM
Actually, on this particular issue, Anon and the WBC are rather less than a step apart. Both shout antisemitic things to garner attention, without actually meaning them. (Hyperbolic Jew-bashing on 4chan started as mockery of Stormfront, and it's well-known that the Phelpses' public personae are just that.)

/Ctrl+F "Tats"
//0 results
///*Whew*
 
2013-04-07 08:52:29 PM
phalaeo: Wow, a lot of people in this thread make me sick.  You have no idea what the history is between Israel and the Palestinians,


Actually, I do have some knowledge of the history of the area, but I would certainly be interested in hearing your perspective.

What say we start by discussing why and how all those Jews wound up in Palestine in the first place?

Let's talk about why they migrated there from Europe, Russia, Asia and elsewhere, shall we?

Let's discuss who desperately wanted to move Jews to Palestine - long before it was called "Israel" - and WHY?

Were most Jews anxious to abandon their lives in Europe, Asia etc. and move to pre-Israel Palestine? Why or why not?

How did the Zionists get their hands on the real estate? And how did they manage to build import a population of Jews that was large enough to start a country?

And finally, who financed all this?


/I love history
 
2013-04-07 08:55:33 PM
Can we all just agree that all religion is farking stupid, and move on? Please?
 
2013-04-07 08:57:22 PM

owlie: I don't see where it says that neighborhoods have been bulldozed as punishment for terrorists originating from those neighborhoods.


You don't think the home of relatives may be in the same neighborhood?  Interesting.
 
2013-04-07 08:58:13 PM
Can you get a concealed carry permit in Israel very easily?  We need to make this thread about guns too.
 
2013-04-07 08:58:34 PM
Christ, start the genocide already and get on with it.
 
2013-04-07 09:01:35 PM

noitsnot: Can you get a concealed carry permit in Israel very easily?  We need to make this thread about guns too.


I dunno, but I'm a vegetarian bicyclist.

People don't mind vegetarians and bicyclists.
 
2013-04-07 09:01:47 PM
Anonymous is not a specific group of people ....


ohhhhh...  but they are still idiots like Westboro Baptist Church.
 
2013-04-07 09:07:15 PM
noitsnot: Can you get a concealed carry permit in Israel very easily?

www.imemc.org

2.bp.blogspot.com

farm5.staticflickr.com

bokertov.typepad.com

alethonews.files.wordpress.com

Concealed carry? Who needs "concealed"?

Only a "terrorist" would want to conceal.
 
2013-04-07 09:09:36 PM
 How do you figure Israelis are forcing Palestinians to live in impoverished ghettos? Where do you propose they live instead, that would be sustainable especially given their rate of reproduction? And how do you propose reducing checkpoint delays while at the same time safeguarding Israel's national security? How do you figure Palestinians are being denied access to quality health care, when even would-be suicide bombers who have been injured often receive treatment in Israel proper because the treatment offered there is superior, and what responsibility does Israel have to offer health care to Palestinians anyway when they're free to build their own hospitals and receive plenty of foreign aid? What judgment do you pass on Palestinians who have usurped traditionally Jewish land, who have desecrated and destroyed ancient synagogues and monuments on land that was given to them, or on the Israeli government for evacuating Jews from land they have lived on for generations? Moreover, where is your indignation over Jews who were expelled from Middle Eastern countries, where many lived since biblical times? And can you show me where Palestinian leaders have called for a two-state solution and Israel would not sit down with them?
owlie:
How do you figure Israelis are forcing Palestinians to live in impoverished ghettos? Where do you propose they live instead, that would be sustainable especially given their rate of reproduction? And how do you propose reducing checkpoint delays while at the same time safeguarding Israel's national security? How do you figure Palestinians are being denied access to quality health care, when even would-be suicide bombers who have been injured often receive treatment in Israel proper because the treatment offered there is superior, and what responsibility does Israel have to offer health care to Palestinians anyway when they're free to build their own hospitals and receive plenty of foreign aid? What judgment do you pass on Palestinians who have usurped traditionally Jewish land, who have desecrated and destroyed ancient synagogues and monuments on land that was given to them, or on the Israeli government for evacuating Jews from land they have lived on for generations? Moreover, where is your indignation over Jews who were expelled from Middle Eastern countries, where many lived since biblical times? And can you show me where Palestinian leaders have called for a two-state solution and Israel would not sit down with them?


1. "Their" rate of reproduction, huh?  Interesting dehumanizing terminology there.  Would you say "they" breed like rats, or rabbits?  Thanks for the insight into your mindset and true opinion of Palestinians.

2. Want to safeguard Israeli citizens?  Treat Palestinians in a manner that reduces their desire to have violent uprisings.  Hard to convince a person who has something to live for that blowing himself up is a good idea.  Yet somehow there seems to be a never-ending supply of young Palestinians who feel that life will never get better.  Wonder why.  A fair Palestinian state will provide more security for Israel than any checkpoint ever will.

3. Sure, Palestinians are free to build their own hospitals.  That's like saying that the residents of Compton are free to build their own hospital.  Should be easy, right?  Just come up with a few hundred million dollars and people that want to live and work in a war zone...simple as that!

4. Are you actually wanting me to feel bad for Israelis that were evacuated from land that just a few generations ago was stolen from Palestinians and HANDED to Israelis, because Palestinians had the nerve to get angry and react?  Just want to know if you're serious.

5. My indignation is tied to the current state of affairs.  If Israelis were being treated as the Palestinians are right now, I'd be angry about that as well.  No human should be forced to endure what the Palestinians are enduring at the present moment in history.  You'd like to imagine that as a people that had historically been mistreated and enslaved, that Zionist Jews would be opposed to treating others in such a manner, but apparently a large portion of the population hasn't come to terms with the irony yet.  Maybe it's akin to the victim of abuse becoming the abuser when they finally are the one in control.
 
2013-04-07 09:13:47 PM
Gee, when anonymous attacks the 'bad' people that Farkers don't like, they are the good guys.  I keep wondering when the Israelis are going to start implementing the ovens in the Palestinian concentration camps.  Remember when the Nazis put the Jews in concentration camps and everyone thought it was bad.  Boy has the world changed since the early 40's.
 
2013-04-07 09:14:11 PM
Or an intelligence agency did it and made it look like Anon did in order to turn the public against them
 
2013-04-07 09:15:45 PM

SubBass49: H

...

I can confidently say I speak for most Farkers when I say "tldnr".

/ tldnr
// Seriosly tldnr
 
2013-04-07 09:18:23 PM

Amos Quito: noitsnot: Can you get a concealed carry permit in Israel very easily?

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Concealed carry? Who needs "concealed"?

Only a "terrorist" would want to conceal.



WOW!

I just realized that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the firearms in the pics I posted above is an ASSAULT WEAPON!

Maybe Feinstein and Bloomberg should "have a word" with Israel about "rational gun control".

I'm sure they have a fair amount influence over there.

/Or is what's good for the joose not good for the gander?
 
2013-04-07 09:18:48 PM

randomjsa: The two sides are Israel and a group of people who want them dead at any price and will never, ever, accept peace. Hamas will never under any circumstance accept anything short of the complete destruction of Israel and the death of every Jew in it. When the position is "we're going to kill every single solitary one of you and will stop at absolutely nothing to do it" where do you begin the process? Does it start with something like "Could you maybe only kill 80% of us?"


So, since Israel is supposedly facing these circumstances, they have no choice but to keep killing these 'enemies', which will make the enemies swear to destroy them for the very same reason.

BOTH sides are being fed the same propaganda, and acting on the same logic, to perpetuate all this. It really looks like they're both being manipulated and used to further some other agenda, but are too dim to realize it.
 
2013-04-07 09:26:46 PM

fatcurlytoes: stay classy, Jew-baiters.

(show me ONE instance where the folks who like to whine about Palestinians have ever given a rat's ass about Palestinian rights in Lebanon... in Syria where they have been literally being used as cannon fodder... in Egypt where the roads from Gaza are mined... and I'll show you a hallucination because it simply does not happen. Nobody cares, not really; but it sure is jolly fun times to make hysterical accusations of war crimes against tiny, embattled Israel - where rockets are literally landing in the north AND the south now.)

fark you, you know who you are.


Wow. Why don't those poor Palestinians just go home if things are so bad for them in other countries?
 
2013-04-07 09:35:23 PM

Amos Quito: noitsnot: Can you get a concealed carry permit in Israel very easily?

[www.imemc.org image 300x244]

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x284]

[farm5.staticflickr.com image 483x333]

[bokertov.typepad.com image 400x275]

[alethonews.files.wordpress.com image 300x225]

Concealed carry? Who needs "concealed"?

Only a "terrorist" would want to conceal.


Interesting idea - concealed weapon carriers are terrorists - I'll think about that...
 
2013-04-07 09:35:53 PM

detritus: When did anti-semitism only apply to Jews?  Israel's government is just as anti-semitic and racist towards Arabs and Blacks.  I'm convinced they are the 21st century moral equivalent of Nazis.  And, just like the US warmly embraced Hitler and the Nazi party pre-WWII, look where we are, supporting a state guilty of doing the same shiat we fought against.

Yet it's OK if Israel creates Stuxnet which has done an incredible amount of damage yet "woe is them" if they get a taste of the shiat they dished out? 

Israel is a terrorist state that needs to be overthrown, and Netanyahu should meet the same fate as Saddam. If there were a US war against Israel I'd enlist tomorrow.


Because if you try to explain to...well, just about anyone, really...that the term "anti-Semite" also refers to Arabs and some blacks, they'll look at you like you just grew horns and spun your head a full 360 on your neck.

I would LOVE to see Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh's reaction to being called anti-Semitic the next time they start running their mouths about "those people" (by that, I mean Muslims) while singing the praises of Israel. Seriously, I think I would pay money to see the purple-faced explosion.
 
2013-04-07 09:36:46 PM

Amos Quito: phalaeo: Wow, a lot of people in this thread make me sick.  You have no idea what the history is between Israel and the Palestinians,


Actually, I do have some knowledge of the history of the area, but I would certainly be interested in hearing your perspective.

What say we start by discussing why and how all those Jews wound up in Palestine in the first place?

Let's talk about why they migrated there from Europe, Russia, Asia and elsewhere, shall we?

Let's discuss who desperately wanted to move Jews to Palestine - long before it was called "Israel" - and WHY?

Were most Jews anxious to abandon their lives in Europe, Asia etc. and move to pre-Israel Palestine? Why or why not?

How did the Zionists get their hands on the real estate? And how did they manage to build import a population of Jews that was large enough to start a country?

And finally, who financed all this?


/I love history


According to popular history, the Nazis, because they were evil, attempted to exterminate the Jews of Europe due to racism, and nearly succeeded until the US and UK stepped in, defeating Germany and giving the Jews a nice bug chunk of land around Jerusalem as repairations.

Of course, every single bit of that is bullshiat.
 
2013-04-07 09:39:10 PM

Amos Quito: Amos Quito: noitsnot: Can you get a concealed carry permit in Israel very easily?

...

WOW!

I just realized that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the firearms in the pics I posted above is an ASSAULT WEAPON!

/Or is what's good for the joose not good for the gander?


Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but the helmets those soldiers are wearing in several of those pictures - they don't seem like they would provide adequate protection in combat.  Is it just me?  I'd want something that came down over the ears at least.
 
2013-04-07 09:39:39 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: According to popular history, the Nazis, because they were evil, attempted to exterminate the Jews of Europe due to racism, and nearly succeeded until the US and UK stepped in, defeating Germany and giving the Jews a nice bug chunk of land around Jerusalem as repairations.

Of course, every single bit of that is bullshiat.


What is the real story?
 
2013-04-07 09:40:51 PM
Oh those poor Israelis. Yawn.
 
Oak
2013-04-07 09:42:11 PM

anuran: Hating Jews is trendy again. All you have to do is call them "Zionists" "Wall Street," or "the Hollywood left," depending on your personal pathology, and sky's the limit


FTFY
 
2013-04-07 09:43:51 PM

jaytkay: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: According to popular history, the Nazis, because they were evil, attempted to exterminate the Jews of Europe due to racism, and nearly succeeded until the US and UK stepped in, defeating Germany and giving the Jews a nice bug chunk of land around Jerusalem as repairations.

Of course, every single bit of that is bullshiat.

What is the real story?


I don't know yet. It's not something that can be summarized in a Fark post or a Wikipedia entry. Read every bit of history about the subject that you can get your hands on for about 10 years, and that will be a halfway decent start.
 
2013-04-07 09:53:08 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: jaytkay: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: According to popular history, the Nazis, because they were evil, attempted to exterminate the Jews of Europe due to racism, and nearly succeeded until the US and UK stepped in, defeating Germany and giving the Jews a nice bug chunk of land around Jerusalem as repairations.

Of course, every single bit of that is bullshiat.

What is the real story?

I don't know yet. It's not something that can be summarized in a Fark post or a Wikipedia entry. Read every bit of history about the subject that you can get your hands on for about 10 years, and that will be a halfway decent start.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah_Bet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Aliyah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah
 
2013-04-07 09:56:16 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: jaytkay: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: According to popular history, the Nazis, because they were evil, attempted to exterminate the Jews of Europe due to racism, and nearly succeeded until the US and UK stepped in, defeating Germany and giving the Jews a nice bug chunk of land around Jerusalem as repairations.

Of course, every single bit of that is bullshiat.

What is the real story?

I don't know yet. It's not something that can be summarized in a Fark post or a Wikipedia entry. Read every bit of history about the subject that you can get your hands on for about 10 years, and that will be a halfway decent start.


Well add in the Soviet Union and that is the general history of it. Of course you can find lots of gray areas in terms of how everything went down exactly and the motivations of the relative parties. But on the basic level yes it is true. And even then many of those things you read will disagree on certain aspects of it, plus as new things are studied and revealed some things will change as well. But for most people who will not dedicate a decade or more to study up on the war the general history is good enough.
 
2013-04-07 09:59:51 PM

anuran: Hating Jews is trendy again. All you have to do is call them "Zionists" and sky's the limit


"Eich bin ein arschloch!"
 
2013-04-07 10:03:37 PM

Tellingthem: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: jaytkay: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: According to popular history, the Nazis, because they were evil, attempted to exterminate the Jews of Europe due to racism, and nearly succeeded until the US and UK stepped in, defeating Germany and giving the Jews a nice bug chunk of land around Jerusalem as repairations.

Of course, every single bit of that is bullshiat.

What is the real story?

I don't know yet. It's not something that can be summarized in a Fark post or a Wikipedia entry. Read every bit of history about the subject that you can get your hands on for about 10 years, and that will be a halfway decent start.

Well add in the Soviet Union and that is the general history of it. Of course you can find lots of gray areas in terms of how everything went down exactly and the motivations of the relative parties. But on the basic level yes it is true. And even then many of those things you read will disagree on certain aspects of it, plus as new things are studied and revealed some things will change as well. But for most people who will not dedicate a decade or more to study up on the war the general history is good enough.


lol perfect
 
2013-04-07 10:07:41 PM

noitsnot: Amos Quito: noitsnot: Can you get a concealed carry permit in Israel very easily?

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Concealed carry? Who needs "concealed"?

Only a "terrorist" would want to conceal.

Interesting idea - concealed weapon carriers are terrorists - I'll think about that...



No, ONLY in Israel - and then ONLY if the carriers are not Jewish.
 
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