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2013-04-07 05:22:58 PM
Someone call me when Didio and Johns are gone, Action Comics is almost at issue #1000 again, and Wally West is Flash and Barbara Gordon is Oracle in a wheelchair and I'll...

Well, I probably won't come running, because DC lost me as a customer.

Their Nu52 crap did the one thing for me that they can't afford to do to any reader... they made me break the weekly habit. Once a comic geek stops going in for their weekly fix, it's over.
 
2013-04-07 06:14:33 PM
I never read comics and I never wanted to start in the middle with so many years of history to catch up on so I liked the idea of the New 52.

I started with Action and Green Arrow.

Action is a confusing mess.  I literally have no idea what is going on issue to issue and I constantly have to go back to older issues to see what the they're talking about in current issues.
In the latest series (something to do with Mr. Mytzlpyk) I had no idea PAGE to PAGE what was going on and was convinced my issue was missing pages!

I talked to the Comic Book Store guy and he said "That's Morrison for you!"

He's done after this month so here's hoping next month will start to make sense again!

And Green Arrow has had 4 creative teams in less than 2 years.  The story and art style has changed SO dramatically between teams it's ALSO hard to follow!

(I also started on Guardians of the Galaxy, but I won't bring a Marvel argument to a DC fight)
 
2013-04-07 06:18:43 PM
Batman Inc was always supposed to end When Morrison's run did.
 
2013-04-07 06:22:37 PM
It's not getting canceled it's ending, big difference.
 
2013-04-07 06:25:24 PM

walrusonion: It's not getting canceled it's ending, big difference.


Not sure if serious.
 
2013-04-07 06:29:56 PM

walrusonion: It's not getting canceled it's ending, big difference.


Just like Firefly.

=/
 
2013-04-07 06:58:52 PM
What is New 52
 
2013-04-07 07:08:31 PM
Canceling Batman? What, are they dense? Are they retarded or something? Who the hell do they think they are? Goddamn.
 
2013-04-07 07:12:16 PM
Not to worry. It will get all sorted out during the annual Crisis event.
 
2013-04-07 07:12:29 PM
Batman Inc was the worst part of a bad idea.  The entire New 52 idea sucks, but that comic read like a children's cartoon, with a "new batman every month" vibe.
 
2013-04-07 07:12:59 PM
I'll preface my post with some perspective:  I never read any comics until about December 2012.  I knew all the backstories from animated series, so I started reading various Batman titles from the start of the New 52.  For Batman Incorporated, I read the original run before reading the New 52 version.

So now, on to my comment:
Batman Incorporated sucked just as bad before the New 52 as it did after.
 
2013-04-07 07:22:42 PM

Tax Boy: Canceling Batman? What, are they dense? Are they retarded or something? Who the hell do they think they are? Goddamn.


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2013-04-07 07:34:15 PM
The only DC title I'm reading but I knew it was ending anyway so no big whoop. I probably enjoyed it much more than I should have.
 
2013-04-07 07:34:44 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Someone call me when Didio and Johns are gone, Action Comics is almost at issue #1000 again, and Wally West is Flash and Barbara Gordon is Oracle in a wheelchair and I'll...

Well, I probably won't come running, because DC lost me as a customer.

Their Nu52 crap did the one thing for me that they can't afford to do to any reader... they made me break the weekly habit. Once a comic geek stops going in for their weekly fix, it's over.


Funny, I never liked Barbara in a wheelchair, and for that matter had sworn off DC until Didio and Johns began rebuilding DC ten years ago.  Okay, the wheelchair thing isn't accurate, I like Babs in the chair or out of it as long as Gail Simone is handling things.   I loved Infinite Crisis, I loved everything about the lantern books, I loved Blackest Night... but this thing about merging Wildstorm has me shaking my head.  I don't like what they've done with Superman, Supergirl, the Teen Titans, Birds of Prey(where's Zinda?), Booster Gold, and for that matter I still haven't figured out the timeline or which books are occurring when.

I stopped reading Marvel and Wildstorm in the 90's, and in the 2000's DC brought me back to comics, but now I think I'm leaving again.  And to make matters worse there is now nothing animated on TV from DC that I want to see after the cancellation of Young Justice and GLA.  "Beware the Batman?"  Thanks, I'm Goddamned Batman-ed out.  But at least the DC animated movies produce a winner most of the time.
 
2013-04-07 07:46:24 PM
I'll start paying for DC comics again when they give Martian Manhunter back his own title. Some people say he works better as a secondary or tertiary character, but those people are full of crap.
 
2013-04-07 07:48:29 PM

portnoyd: walrusonion: It's not getting canceled it's ending, big difference.

Not sure if serious.


He's totally serious. Morrison had a story* that he wanted to tell; once the story was finished, the book ends. Batman Inc has been selling pretty well.

*even if it's as nonsensical and convoluted as most of Morrison's stories.
 
2013-04-07 07:49:25 PM
The only series I enjoyed reading since the reboot was Suicide Squad. I was a nice little self contained story that would make some good episodic TV.
Stopped a while ago, but only because I had way too many other books in the queue to bother with spending money on individual issues.
 
2013-04-07 07:49:30 PM

Spaced Lion: I'll start paying for DC comics again when they give Martian Manhunter back his own title. Some people say he works better as a secondary or tertiary character, but those people are full of crap.


He's the backup feature in the new JL of A book. Does that count?
 
2013-04-07 07:53:40 PM
OH, also, the new Star Wars title from Dark Horse (I guess until their contract ends and I assume it will shift to Marvel) is really good so far.  It's only at issue #3 so you can catch up.

It's set right after the Battle of Yavin so it's the characters you know and love and no more damned Clone Wars!
 
2013-04-07 08:00:44 PM
It's not really a cancellation, the head writer left after wrapping up the story so it's really more of an ending. It probably won't be a really good ending but the whole idea of Batman Inc relied heavily on the pre-Flashpoint continuity. It's gotten too hard to explain Batman having a 12 year old son despite only being a hero for 5 or so years.

buntz: Action is a confusing mess.  I literally have no idea what is going on issue to issue and I constantly have to go back to older issues to see what the they're talking about in current issues.
In the latest series (something to do with Mr. Mytzlpyk) I had no idea PAGE to PAGE what was going on and was convinced my issue was missing pages!


Action Comics was actually my favorite book of the new 52, just ahead of Batwoman. The story at its heart is pretty simple, but it does require a lot of rereading to catch all the foreshadowing and minor details. Basically it starts with Superman operating as a hero of the common man in Metropolis. He is working to bring down a corrupt businessman, but just when he wins, Brainiac and other super villains emerge. Eventually Superman realizes that all his life he has been fighting against a villain from the 5th dimension. The villain assembles an army to kill Superman and attacks him at several points in his life simultaneously. Superman repels every attack and saves the day. Along the way the audience is introduced to the New 52 versions of Superman's friends and enemies, and Superman becomes the hero we all know and love.
 
2013-04-07 08:02:02 PM
Hey TARDMITTER, did you hear? Breaking Bad is also getting cancelled this summer.

Idiot...
 
2013-04-07 08:05:22 PM
I've not picked a marvel or dc comic in years

All my money goes to IDW

/More Than Meets The Eye & Robots in Disguise
 
2013-04-07 08:10:58 PM

Brass_Robo: ......and Superman becomes the hero we all know and love.


Yeah, I mean I got the story, but it's a muddled mess.  Which means it's guaranteed to be turned into an unfilmable movie that will tank.

I liked the idea of the first couple of issues, he was fresh off the bus from Smallville and wore jeans and a T-shirt.  I was excited to see that story play out.  But then in one issue he went from being young and new and just learning his capabilities to being the god he used to be before...which is disappointing.
I like that in the first issue the train bloodied him and knocked him out!

I like that he didn't know better so he had to wear oxygen to go into space.... those were interesting stories.....

Then it went back to the same ol same ol.
 
2013-04-07 08:11:48 PM
Is agenda 52 what glen beck is always warning me about?
 
2013-04-07 08:21:38 PM

JolobinSmokin: Is agenda 52 what glen beck is always warning me about?


Yup.
 
2013-04-07 08:24:05 PM
Let a Franchise die, pass the torch to a new character and move on.


I love comics, and manga. One of the things I hate about western comics is the constant reboots, retcons, reinventions, and reimaginings.
One of the things I like about manga, for the most part, its one big run, a set number of books, with a complete beginning, middle and END story wise, and several hundred pages per book on average. Not 25 pages, 8 of which are ads for other comics.


Please Marvel, Please DC, Please please please, move on, tell us new stories.
 
2013-04-07 08:25:36 PM
Too many goddamned goddamned Batman books. You can't follow shiat without dropping $20 a month.
 
2013-04-07 08:28:13 PM

buntz: I never read comics and I never wanted to start in the middle with so many years of history to catch up on so I liked the idea of the New 52.

I started with Action and Green Arrow.

Action is a confusing mess.  I literally have no idea what is going on issue to issue and I constantly have to go back to older issues to see what the they're talking about in current issues.
In the latest series (something to do with Mr. Mytzlpyk) I had no idea PAGE to PAGE what was going on and was convinced my issue was missing pages!

I talked to the Comic Book Store guy and he said "That's Morrison for you!"

He's done after this month so here's hoping next month will start to make sense again!

And Green Arrow has had 4 creative teams in less than 2 years.  The story and art style has changed SO dramatically between teams it's ALSO hard to follow!

(I also started on Guardians of the Galaxy, but I won't bring a Marvel argument to a DC fight)


Honestly I am a Marvel guy. Will always be. Green Arrow from issue 17 on is the farking shiat. Justice League of America also. Seriously start reading it and ignore anything previously done in the current run. It doesn't exist. I've never been this into a comic series before now. Then again I haven't read the current Hawkeye (I am placing the TPB on the shop's order form.... I love running a shop).
 
2013-04-07 08:29:36 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Someone call me when Didio and Johns are gone, Action Comics is almost at issue #1000 again, and Wally West is Flash and Barbara Gordon is Oracle in a wheelchair and I'll...

Well, I probably won't come running, because DC lost me as a customer.

Their Nu52 crap did the one thing for me that they can't afford to do to any reader... they made me break the weekly habit. Once a comic geek stops going in for their weekly fix, it's over.


Trust me, they've got bigger problems than Johns and Didio. A big, 90s-shaped problem by the name of Bob Harras. You may know him from "the guy who was head of Marvel during the 90s" or "the guy written into the background of a comic thanking God that he'd left the company." He's basically made it crystal clear that his focus is on giant events (gimmicks) and that characters will take a backseat.

It's basically KILLED all the momentum they had at the beginning of the New-52, cause remember: they held LITERALLY the entire top-10 sales slots for single issues at one point. Now Marvel's got 40% market share and DC has PLUMMETED to 27%.

Wolfman Johnny: Too many goddamned goddamned Batman books. You can't follow shiat without dropping $20 a month.


The books are basically only connected in the MOST tangential ways. And even with that in mind: there are STILL too many Batman books .But sadly they're the ones that sell.
 
2013-04-07 08:42:15 PM

xnewnoisex: Green Arrow from issue 17 on is the farking shiat


No, I totally agree.  I like this newest team the best (though I DID like the story of the last team that had the triplets he banged on the jet?  I liked the stories, HATED....HATED.....HATED the art work.  It looked like a grader schoolers rough draft!  Made it hard to read.  But I DID like the stories.

I haven't given up on GA and it's a sad day when ANYONE says "Action & Superman is boring, but I'm LOVING Green Arrow"

I'm going to give the new Action team a shot, but if it doesn't improve, I think I'm dropping it.

(I tried the new "Night of the Living Dead"... hated it.  And I tried the new Avengers Assemble after the movie came out and liked it until they switched it to Marvel Now and then I dropped that title too.)
 
2013-04-07 09:03:47 PM
My library has all of the New52 graphic novels and I have read the whole of the first round and a few of the second.  The Batman vs. Owls story was the best one by far.  Batman Inc. was one of the weakest.  I think we're now on Origin #4 for Wonder Woman.  Some of the weird/horror/western title surprised me as I have never been a fan of those comics genres before.  I figure at least half of the 52 won't make through year two though, just some really lame stories and art.
 
2013-04-07 09:12:58 PM
DC certainly has cut back on the number of trees cut down for printing paper.

/Quit reading comics during the last big reboot.
//Really miss my books.
 
2013-04-07 09:53:21 PM

Anderson's Pooper: I figure at least half of the 52 won't make through year two though, just some really lame stories and art.


Exhibit A:

d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net

You know things are bad at DC when they hired Liefled for a series and actually expected it to be anything except an utter disaster.
 
2013-04-07 10:05:09 PM
I've never cared much about comics, but the New 52 seems to be a "Throw it at the wall and see what sticks" approach.

Or would you rather new comics be the result of focus panels and marketing surveys and the rest of the stuff that made "Reality" programming something that fills the airwaves with utter dreck.
 
2013-04-07 10:26:54 PM

wildcardjack: I've never cared much about comics, but the New 52 seems to be a "Throw it at the wall and see what sticks" approach.

Or would you rather new comics be the result of focus panels and marketing surveys and the rest of the stuff that made "Reality" programming something that fills the airwaves with utter dreck.


I'm not particularly interested in comics any more either, but I'd rather have the editors do their farking job, which is not actually randomly flinging their shiat at the wall OR focus-grouping everything.
 
2013-04-07 10:37:20 PM

Mad_Radhu: Anderson's Pooper: I figure at least half of the 52 won't make through year two though, just some really lame stories and art.

Exhibit A:

[d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net image 600x929]

You know things are bad at DC when they hired Liefled for a series and actually expected it to be anything except an utter disaster.


Farkin' Liefeld. But without him we wouldn't have  this.
 
2013-04-07 10:56:52 PM
I'm glad they're letting it end rather than try to have somebody step up and fill his shoes. Look what happened with New X-Men and the Xorn character...
 
2013-04-07 11:06:45 PM

Electriclectic: I'm glad they're letting it end rather than try to have somebody step up and fill his shoes. Look what happened with New X-Men and the Xorn character...


Almost everything Morrison touches is like a Mexican Buffet. It starts out wonderful and exciting, and eventually turns in to a river of watery shiat.
 
2013-04-07 11:10:39 PM

Mad_Radhu: Anderson's Pooper: I figure at least half of the 52 won't make through year two though, just some really lame stories and art.

Exhibit A:

[d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net image 600x929]

You know things are bad at DC when they hired Liefled for a series and actually expected it to be anything except an utter disaster.


Jesus Christ, I know that Liefeld is terrible but, someone paid him money for that, then actually published it?
 
2013-04-07 11:15:18 PM
Any good new series out there? Hooked on Saga right now, and looking for something else to get into.
 
2013-04-07 11:24:01 PM

HalEmmerich: Mad_Radhu: Anderson's Pooper: I figure at least half of the 52 won't make through year two though, just some really lame stories and art.

Exhibit A:

[d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net image 600x929]

You know things are bad at DC when they hired Liefled for a series and actually expected it to be anything except an utter disaster.

Jesus Christ, I know that Liefeld is terrible but, someone paid him money for that, then actually published it?


At least he got the feet right this time.
 
2013-04-07 11:24:09 PM

Counter_Intelligent: Any good new series out there? Hooked on Saga right now, and looking for something else to get into.


I enjoy Jonathan Hickman's brand of sci-fi, particularly in The Manhattan Projects.
 
2013-04-07 11:29:17 PM

Counter_Intelligent: Any good new series out there? Hooked on Saga right now, and looking for something else to get into.


I think Saga is the best book out there right now. I'm also enjoying Manhattan Projects and, while not new, Invincible.
 
2013-04-07 11:31:01 PM

Mentat: HalEmmerich: Mad_Radhu: Anderson's Pooper: I figure at least half of the 52 won't make through year two though, just some really lame stories and art.

Exhibit A:

[d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net image 600x929]

You know things are bad at DC when they hired Liefled for a series and actually expected it to be anything except an utter disaster.

Jesus Christ, I know that Liefeld is terrible but, someone paid him money for that, then actually published it?

At least he got the feet right this time.


But where are all the pouches?
 
2013-04-07 11:41:57 PM
Cool. The 1st issue is free on Comixology, thanks for the recommendation.
 
2013-04-07 11:45:16 PM

Mentat: HalEmmerich: Mad_Radhu: Anderson's Pooper: I figure at least half of the 52 won't make through year two though, just some really lame stories and art.

Exhibit A:

[d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net image 600x929]

You know things are bad at DC when they hired Liefled for a series and actually expected it to be anything except an utter disaster.

Jesus Christ, I know that Liefeld is terrible but, someone paid him money for that, then actually published it?

At least he got the feet right this time.


It only took him what, 20 years? I don't even read comics and I know how terrible he is, it's mind-boggling he got as far as he did and still gets work.
 
2013-04-07 11:51:10 PM

Counter_Intelligent: Cool. The 1st issue is free on Comixology, thanks for the recommendation.


I think Brian Posehn and Gerry Duggan's writing of Deadpool has been pretty funny and entertaining, too.
 
2013-04-08 12:01:57 AM

Electriclectic: Counter_Intelligent: Any good new series out there? Hooked on Saga right now, and looking for something else to get into.

I enjoy Jonathan Hickman's brand of sci-fi, particularly in The Manhattan Projects.


Pax Romana was awesome, although I wish there was more of it.

I'm also loving Saga as well. The cliffhanger with Lying Cat really had me worried.
 
2013-04-08 12:16:15 AM
Everybody, everybody.... It's okay. The New 52 will end soon enough. Superman will let down his guard after a huge Indian meal, and let loose with a vindaloo fart so powerful that he breaks reality  again.

And then the next thing you know, everyone will be different. The costumes will change slightly. People who were dead will suddenly be alive again. People who were alive will cease to exist. Superman's power levels will change dramatically only to slowly amp-up to pre-Crisis levels once more. Diana will wear pants-- no, wait-- She'll wear something else-- no, wait-- She'll look exactly like she did before until a different artist takes over the book. Wally and Barry will both disappear from reality and Jay will be the one and only Flash until issue 17 when they skip ahead four years and Jay's retired, Wally's dead, and Barry's the Flash again.

J'onn will be missing from this reality, but his niece will be there, and she'll be a hot, sexy, slutty alien who goes both ways. Nightwing will be the 28-year-old Dick, and he'll still have been the first Robin, having begun at 15 years old when Batman began his own career five years ago. Jason Todd will be dead, but he won't have been killed by the Joker or anything like that; Instead, he became the new Penguin and was murdered by Killer Croc, who in this reality is a hot, sexy, slutty woman who goes both ways.

Harley Quinn will change costumes and dress more like a girl from a Morris Day and the Time video. The Joker will get his face back, but this time he will be armless and African American. He starts all his statements to the Batman with, "Damn, son..."

Superman will once again be the only remaining Kryptonian. Kara will cease to exist. Power Girl will be a woman chosen at random by S.T.A.R. Labs as part of an experiment to see what happens when a woman drinks too much of Superman's semen. This will explain the massive hole in her costume over her cleavage, as well as giving audiences a credible source for her powers.

Aquaman will still wear than damned orange Atlantean scale armor, but he'll finally switch to black speedos instead of green tights. He will have both hands, but his feet will be replaced by flippers. His archenemy will go back to being called "Black Manta", but he won't be African. He'll be a Japanese whaler who went too far.

Superman will no longer be a reporter, or a blogger. Now he's a vlogger and he only works on YouTube making videos talking about how awesome he thinks Superman is. Lois Lane is another vlogger based loosely on Boxxy. Jimmy Olsen is now a paparazzo who follows superheroes in an effort to get upskirt shots.

Green Lantern will no longer be Jon, or Hal, or Guy, but instead he will originally begin as G'nort, and then when he dies in a horrible mustard-related accident, he'll pass the ring on to a new kid by the name of Dexter Cavendish, a multi-racial wiz-kid who loves science and pro wrestling.

The Justice League will consist of Wonder Woman (in pants, no wait, in a one-piece), Aquaman, Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Mistress Manhunter, The Batman, Batmite, Krypto and Captain Carrot.

The whole thing will be called Vindaloo 52 because the results will run for longer than we'd like, making us miserable.They'll eventually reboot again when Mr. Mxyzptlk and Mr. Mxyztplk accidentally swap clothes, causing the multiverse to collapse in on itself and reset to the Silver Age.
 
2013-04-08 12:21:22 AM

Wolfman Johnny: Too many goddamned goddamned Batman books. You can't follow shiat without dropping $20 a month.


With the cancellation of Batman Inc. We are now down to only 16 Batman related titles in the "New" 52.
 
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