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(Opposing Views)   More than 700 educators from one particular state decided to better themselves this weekend. Did they do it by a.) Taking advanced math classes, b.) Researching teaching methods utilized in Europe, or c.) Attending a free gun class? Hint: Texas   (opposingviews.com) divider line 18
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2013-04-07 06:22:58 PM  
1 votes:
Teachers taking a concealed firearms course. It's like reading the news from some idiotic alien planet.
2013-04-07 06:07:06 PM  
1 votes:

12349876: BarkingUnicorn: , a gun should be on every teacher's hip.

ready to be taken by a kid with a single suckerpunch.


Don't be ridiculous.  If a kid alarms the teacher or approaches the wrong way, the teacher should just shoot him.

/school in Texas!
//eventually some red state mouth breather kid is gonna get shot for no reason and I can stop reading about this insanity
2013-04-07 06:00:21 PM  
1 votes:

Clemkadidlefark: 2nd Amendment, dikweed. MORE 2nd Amendment. Issue was settled in 1791. Shall Not Be Infringed.How come you're so afraid of the Second Amendment? If you're such a puss, how can you stand to look in the mirror?


AHEM. Mandatory regular public inspection of arms and ammunition, registration, and reporting to the governor, Department of War, and the President. Mandatory training and qualification. Military regulations apply. Universal service.
Yeah, I'd go for that.

/But not the moronic, unregulated anarchy we have now.
2013-04-07 05:18:26 PM  
1 votes:
Don't ya just know that the same people that want to grab guns for political agendas under the lie of "preventing" gun murder are the same same as those that believe TSA Theatre is some kind of "security".
Whatever do they gas normal peeps with to get them to swallow this bull?
How can this happen in good ol' USA?

Nope, I just can not believe that anything approaching a "consensus" believes this crap.
My fellow citizens are not that stupid!
Never mind, my pills are here.
2013-04-07 05:12:47 PM  
1 votes:

sweet-daddy-2: Man, these gun threads get blazing hot .Here's a suggestion for Drew. Take all of the posters, arm them with guns, and turn them loose as in Hunger Games. The last one standing gets a year's supply of beer and a year's TF. He/she could then post to themselves without getting all fired up and having a heart attack.


Actually, a Fark multi-player shooting game would be fabulous!
2013-04-07 05:10:44 PM  
1 votes:
Just let the locals in each school district decide what they prefer.  The gun lovers and loathers will soon segregate themselves geographically and all will be at peace.

Separate but equally crazy.
2013-04-07 04:53:39 PM  
1 votes:

BayouOtter: I like how you reference Australia here, the place where criminals mass produce guns, and where the gun bans had no significant change to the rates of decline that were there before the bans?

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy.  Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them.


Here ya go. Pony up real stats on firearm-related crime.

Hint: I already did, nimrod, and you lie.
2013-04-07 04:19:08 PM  
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Bravo Two: GAT_00: GUTSU: In 1991 there were 210 million firearms in the united states. Now there are over 280 million. This far makes up for the decrease in gunownership which by the way, I believe is vastly under reported.

Well by God I'm sure glad you've got all those imagined facts on your side.  I'm totally farking convinced now!

Once again showing GAT_00's ability to be well-reasoned and able to discuss things in a pleasant, well-informed manner. Is there ever a time when you're willing to discuss and NOT attack the other side?


I stopped being civil to NRA types a long time ago once I realized they had no respect for me or any position I held.  Why bother treating someone with anything but disdain when you know it's never occurred to them to respect you?  That, and I'm not real big on being nice to people who see kids dying pointlessly and think "Yeah, everything looks good and free here.  Just the world I want to live in."
2013-04-07 04:05:16 PM  
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GUTSU: In 1991 there were 210 million firearms in the united states. Now there are over 280 million. This far makes up for the decrease in gunownership which by the way, I believe is vastly under reported.


Well by God I'm sure glad you've got all those imagined facts on your side.  I'm totally farking convinced now!
2013-04-07 03:52:25 PM  
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MichiganFTL: tylerdurden217: RickN99: GAT_00: BarkingUnicorn: GAT_00: BarkingUnicorn: "Professional development" includes interpersonal skills, subby.

What kind of interpersonal skill is shooting someone?

The best kind, if someone's pointing a gun at you.

Only a nutjob would think killing someone to be a useful skill that a teacher should cultivate.

I think knowing how to defend yourself is a skill everyone in every profession should cultivate.  I guess teaching a 55-yo, 90-lb school librarian how to box would be an option, but I'm skeptical.

I'm a nutjob, I guess.

Defend themselves against what exactly? Please tell us more about this fantastical world where school librarians experience credible and even probable threat of being assaulted or murdered.

The incidence of mental health disorders are, and always will be, dispersed throughout society. Throw millions of firearms into the mix and the probability of homicide approaches levels that are statistically likely. More guns, more murder. Period.

actually, haven't murders decreased as guns have increased over the past 15 years?


Try matching that against the decrease in percentage of households with firearms and get back to me, troll.
2013-04-07 03:46:32 PM  
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RickN99: GAT_00: BarkingUnicorn: GAT_00: BarkingUnicorn: "Professional development" includes interpersonal skills, subby.

What kind of interpersonal skill is shooting someone?

The best kind, if someone's pointing a gun at you.

Only a nutjob would think killing someone to be a useful skill that a teacher should cultivate.

I think knowing how to defend yourself is a skill everyone in every profession should cultivate.  I guess teaching a 55-yo, 90-lb school librarian how to box would be an option, but I'm skeptical.

I'm a nutjob, I guess.


Defend themselves against what exactly? Please tell us more about this fantastical world where school librarians experience credible and even probable threat of being assaulted or murdered.

The incidence of mental health disorders are, and always will be, dispersed throughout society. Throw millions of firearms into the mix and the probability of homicide approaches levels that are statistically likely. More guns, more murder. Period.
2013-04-07 03:45:45 PM  
1 votes:

GAT_00: BarkingUnicorn: GAT_00: BarkingUnicorn: "Professional development" includes interpersonal skills, subby.

What kind of interpersonal skill is shooting someone?

The best kind, if someone's pointing a gun at you.

Only a nutjob would think killing someone to be a useful skill that a teacher should cultivate.


I agree. This is a great way to smoke out nutjobs and get them out of classrooms.  If I was principal and saw, "gun safety certified" on a teacher's resume', I'd choose the other resume' with all its misspellings.
2013-04-07 03:40:44 PM  
1 votes:

MichiganFTL: yes, if that person does not follow any of the basic rules of firearms.


How many news stories of Responsible Gun Owners shooting themselves or their kids do you want me to link here?  And let's just pretend that the gun kept by the teacher will never be stolen and then used for a school shooting.  Why bother with acquisition and transportation?  You've got a gun sitting right there.
2013-04-07 03:24:18 PM  
1 votes:
This is simple. More gun free zone signs, we extend the area outside schools that are gun free further and put up more signs. This new law will stop shooters from entering the zone and if they miss the first sign, they'll surely see more and come to their senses.
2013-04-07 03:21:36 PM  
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GAT_00: knbwhite: tudorgurl: And on the news last night, a whole bunch of clucking chickens squawking about how having a gun in the classroom would protect the children from the evil-doers who lurk around every corner. Seriously, people. Get a flocking grip. There is absolutely NO reason for a teacher to have a gun, loaded or not, in a classroom full of kids. There is no way that I or any of those teachers would seriously have the presence of mind in an active shooter situation to find the key to the gun safe, open it, take the gun lock off the gun, load it, and fire it without hitting children or other adults. We are not soldiers. We are teachers, and we should not have to be expected to do shiat like this. It's stories and classes like these that inflame the ignorant and send them shrieking for their guns. I will protect and defend my kids against any person who comes to harm them. However, I refuse to have a weapon in my classroom. That is not the place for it, and it changes the tenor of the room and the schoolhouse. It no longer is a place of safety and learning. When you put guns in the schoolhouse, it becomes nothing more than a prison.

How sad it must be to live in such fear. I really feel sorry for these people.

No one is telling you that you must have a gun.  Can't we be pro choice on the teacher with a gun issue?

Yes, because the solution to a school shooting is clearly a shootout.


Your solution is a one sided shoot out.  Like dodgeball.....except they dont teach that in schools anymore either, so the kids might just stand there waiting for a participation trophy.
2013-04-07 03:04:01 PM  
1 votes:
>>The class, organized by former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle (before his death)

Ya think?
2013-04-07 01:56:46 PM  
1 votes:
It's best to know the difference between your rifle and your gun.

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2013-04-07 01:51:35 PM  
1 votes:
And on the news last night, a whole bunch of clucking chickens squawking about how having a gun in the classroom would protect the children from the evil-doers who lurk around every corner. Seriously, people. Get a flocking grip. There is absolutely NO reason for a teacher to have a gun, loaded or not, in a classroom full of kids. There is no way that I or any of those teachers would seriously have the presence of mind in an active shooter situation to find the key to the gun safe, open it, take the gun lock off the gun, load it, and fire it without hitting children or other adults. We are not soldiers. We are teachers, and we should not have to be expected to do shiat like this. It's stories and classes like these that inflame the ignorant and send them shrieking for their guns. I will protect and defend my kids against any person who comes to harm them. However, I refuse to have a weapon in my classroom. That is not the place for it, and it changes the tenor of the room and the schoolhouse. It no longer is a place of safety and learning. When you put guns in the schoolhouse, it becomes nothing more than a prison.

How sad it must be to live in such fear. I really feel sorry for these people.
 
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