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(Tablet Magazine)   'Seinfeld' re-ups for a 5th round of syndication, bringing the syndication revenue to over $3 billion or $17 million per episode. Giddy up   (tabletmag.com) divider line 113
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2013-04-07 12:21:17 PM  
mimg.ugo.com
 
2013-04-07 12:21:19 PM  
As huge fan of Seinfeld I can honestly say the majority of the series hasn't held up well. Although the first season is close to 25 years old
 
2013-04-07 12:31:49 PM  
I still think NBC should buy the rights to "The Strike" and air it as a special every December 23.
 
2013-04-07 12:38:07 PM  
Seinfeld is one of the few TV shows that I can watch anytime, anywhere. I've seen every episode countless times, but if there's nothing else on I'll watch it.  This is a rare syndication goldmine, because I know I'm not alone.  Guaranteed eyes-on is something that makes marketing execs wet between their legs, and Seinfeld is one of the few shows that can still do that.  It ain't going away anytime soon.
 
2013-04-07 01:19:29 PM  
It's remarkable how cutting edge the show remains compared to today's most popular sitcoms, such as The Big Bang Theory.
 
2013-04-07 01:20:20 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: As huge fan of Seinfeld I can honestly say the majority of the series hasn't held up well. Although the first season is close to 25 years old


Stop making me feel old!

/Shakes tiny fist.
 
2013-04-07 01:23:30 PM  
Well, there's always the Bloomingdale's Executive Training Program.
 
2013-04-07 01:23:48 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: As huge fan of Seinfeld I can honestly say the majority of the series hasn't held up well. Although the first season is close to 25 years old


I agree.

The problem is that the show relied heavily on the "shock" factor of seeing people be terrible and petty to each other. That shock has worn off, to say the least.
 
2013-04-07 01:23:49 PM  
I have the series on DVD, but still find myself watching it on TV when it's on.
 
2013-04-07 01:26:51 PM  
Now each of those 180 episodes

Most are rarely broadcast. Most nets only run the same couple dozen episodes over and over, especially TBS. You know the quotes, soup nazi, hand model, we're not gay, yada yada yada.

Which, is just as well for the first season, and the last two.
 
2013-04-07 01:29:05 PM  
I have the series on DVD

Yeah, it can be had for cheap now. Get the good seasons, rip your favorite eps and stream them to your TV whenever you want. Roku + Plex = WIN.
 
2013-04-07 01:33:37 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: As huge fan of Seinfeld I can honestly say the majority of the series hasn't held up well. Although the first season is close to 25 years old


This.

/don't like anything past the 4th season.
 
2013-04-07 01:38:20 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: As huge fan of Seinfeld I can honestly say the majority of the series hasn't held up well. Although the first season is close to 25 years old


With a Fark handle like that I'm not surprised you're a huge fan. I am as well, though I think most episodes are still entertaining as hell (with the occasional exception, of course)
 
2013-04-07 01:55:59 PM  
And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.
 
2013-04-07 02:06:46 PM  

Flappyhead: And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.


[Citation needed]
 
2013-04-07 02:08:09 PM  

Flappyhead: And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.


I did not know that. If true, that sucks.

Fred Gwynne never got anything from repeats of The Munsters either.
 
2013-04-07 02:09:57 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: As huge fan of Seinfeld I can honestly say the majority of the series hasn't held up well. Although the first season is close to 25 years old


I'd be curious how younger viewers who didn't grow up with the series view it. A huge chunk of the plots don't even work in a world where cell phones exist.  And while it was cutting edge at the time to have a show about a group of self-absorbed people being assholes to everyone else, we now get that in spades with shows like Always Sunny.

/love Seinfeld and can still spend an entire afternoon watching it if nothing's o.
 
2013-04-07 02:20:22 PM  

John Buck 41: Peter von Nostrand: As huge fan of Seinfeld I can honestly say the majority of the series hasn't held up well. Although the first season is close to 25 years old

With a Fark handle like that I'm not surprised you're a huge fan. I am as well, though I think most episodes are still entertaining as hell (with the occasional exception, of course)


I can still sit and watch them all day, too. But I know a lot of people that couldn't. They'd find the show slow and boring
 
2013-04-07 02:21:04 PM  
Seinfeld did have to cough up some dough for the others to do DVD commentary, iirc
 
2013-04-07 02:22:41 PM  
Proving once again, Hollywood elites have to rely on big government to do anything.

Not providing anything to do with jobs or revenue.
 
2013-04-07 02:24:54 PM  

PainInTheASP: Seinfeld is one of the few TV shows that I can watch anytime, anywhere.


Me too. And I don't watch any sitcoms now, probably haven't since Seinfeld. Unless 30 Rock counts as a sitcom.
 
2013-04-07 02:30:21 PM  

Mugato: Unless 30 Rock counts as a sitcom.


Hmm, hard to say.  Did that show feature any situations?
 
2013-04-07 02:30:39 PM  

thornhill: It's remarkable how cutting edge the show remains compared to today's most popular sitcoms, such as The Big Bang Theory.


To be fair, BBT claims to be nerdy, which by definition is the opposite of edgy.
 
2013-04-07 02:31:11 PM  

NeoCortex42: A huge chunk of the plots don't even work in a world where cell phones exist


That's the thing though, cell phones did exist. The show ran from 1990 to 1998. By 1994 cell phones were somewhat common. I had one and I was a broke ass college student. Yet most of the stories relied on the characters not being able to get a hold of each other. Loved the show, I'm just saying.

/hottest girl, Paula Marshall in the one where she outed them
//second hottest, Mulva
 
2013-04-07 02:32:24 PM  

T-Servo: To be fair, BBT claims to be nerdy, which by definition is the opposite of edgy.


Aren't they all hipster douchebags, isn't that edgy? Only saw like 20 minutes of it.
 
2013-04-07 02:43:03 PM  

NeoCortex42: A huge chunk of the plots don't even work in a world where cell phones exist.


I've heard this criticism pretty much every time Seinfeld is brought up, and I fail to see the point.  Cell phones would be handy in Game of Thrones too, but hey they don't exist.  I think that anyone who is a Curb Your Enthusiasm fan will tell you that Larry David is perfectly capable of creating comedy in a world with cell phones.  They just simply WERE NOT COMMON during most of Seinfeld's run.  I got my first cell phone, the generic Nokia brick that everyone had, in 2001.  It wasn't strange at all to see people on tv without cell phones in 1998.
 
2013-04-07 02:48:44 PM  

Mugato: T-Servo: To be fair, BBT claims to be nerdy, which by definition is the opposite of edgy.

Aren't they all hipster douchebags, isn't that edgy? Only saw like 20 minutes of it.


As someone who's an uptown loft apartment away from being an official hipster douchebag, BBT has no hipsters.
 
2013-04-07 02:48:57 PM  

Mugato: /hottest girl, Paula Marshall in the one where she outed them


Teri Hatcher ftw. They're real, and they're spectacular.
 
2013-04-07 02:49:19 PM  

John Buck 41: Flappyhead: And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.

I did not know that. If true, that sucks.

Fred Gwynne never got anything from repeats of The Munsters either.


That's generally not the case.  The way it works nowadays is that the production company (Castle Rock Entertainment in this case) usually gets 80% (and they usually pay some of that out to the creators depending on their original contracts) and the actors/writers/directors usually get 20%.

Prior to the 1970s, the idea of television shows having any life past their original run didn't really exist, so most residuals contracts were only for a handful of episodes (enough to fill out that season basically).  Once reruns became a thing, they negotiated for indefinite residuals.
 
2013-04-07 02:51:11 PM  

Mugato: That's the thing though, cell phones did exist. The show ran from 1990 to 1998. By 1994 cell phones were somewhat common. I had one and I was a broke ass college student. Yet most of the stories relied on the characters not being able to get a hold of each other. Loved the show, I'm just saying.


"On-the-street cell-phone call is the lowest phone call you can make." - George Costanza
 
2013-04-07 02:51:54 PM  

Hoban Washburne: NeoCortex42: A huge chunk of the plots don't even work in a world where cell phones exist.

I've heard this criticism pretty much every time Seinfeld is brought up, and I fail to see the point.  Cell phones would be handy in Game of Thrones too, but hey they don't exist.  I think that anyone who is a Curb Your Enthusiasm fan will tell you that Larry David is perfectly capable of creating comedy in a world with cell phones.  They just simply WERE NOT COMMON during most of Seinfeld's run.  I got my first cell phone, the generic Nokia brick that everyone had, in 2001.  It wasn't strange at all to see people on tv without cell phones in 1998.


I don't mean it as a criticism. I just think it would be interesting to see it from the perspective of younger viewers who never knew a time when the couldn't easily contact anybody they knew at any time.

Sure, plenty of other sitcoms didn't have cell phones, but Seinfeld stands out for so many of their plots relying on the characters not being able to readily contact each other. A show like Cheers (which I'm currently working on rewatching through Netflix) doesn't have this problem. Aside from a few instances, almost none of the plots hinge at all on communication problems.
 
2013-04-07 02:53:29 PM  
media.canada.com
The only reason to watch Seinfeld
 
2013-04-07 02:58:18 PM  

foo monkey: Flappyhead: And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.

[Citation needed]


"Apparently, other cast members from the show are not sharing in the billions.
Co-stars Jason Alexander, Michael Richards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus have a portion of the revenues from sales of "Seinfeld" DVDs -- something they held out for in contract negotiations for the series' final season. But not the show's syndication money." New York Post, June 7, 2010
<http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/einfeld_rakes_in_bil_RFu9j OSt ArywzQ8I5rSvAJ>
 
2013-04-07 03:00:10 PM  

Spanky3woods: [media.canada.com image 375x375]
The only reason to watch Seinfeld


And Veep is back in only a week.
 
2013-04-07 03:10:19 PM  
Hoooooochie mama
 
2013-04-07 03:10:46 PM  

Spanky3woods: [media.canada.com image 375x375]
The only reason to watch Seinfeld


Truth
 
2013-04-07 03:11:46 PM  

NeoCortex42: I don't mean it as a criticism. I just think it would be interesting to see it from the perspective of younger viewers who never knew a time when the couldn't easily contact anybody they knew at any time.


Oh, okay, I misinterpreted you.  I've heard the cell phone criticism enough times that I just assumed that's what you were doing.  I'd agree that it's kind of interesting to think about.
 
2013-04-07 03:17:36 PM  

bugcrusher: "Apparently, other cast members from the show are not sharing in the billions.
Co-stars Jason Alexander, Michael Richards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus


Good thing she already has $billions from The Louis Dreyfus financial group, then.
 
2013-04-07 03:25:54 PM  

Flappyhead: And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.


That's the difference between Producer and Talent.

Don't hate the payer.
 
2013-04-07 03:31:53 PM  

Flappyhead: And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.


I've never understood why actors think they deserve a portion of the money a show makes outside of their original paycheck. Imagine if everything in life worked this way, construction workers would receive a portion of the monthly rent from an office building they worked on, airlines would send monthly checks to the Boeing engineers who designed their planes.

They get a paycheck for acting in the show, thinking they deserve to get a piece of the pie beyond that only demonstrates how utterly out of touch with the real world people in Hollywood actually are.
 
2013-04-07 03:40:39 PM  

NeoCortex42: Hoban Washburne: NeoCortex42: A huge chunk of the plots don't even work in a world where cell phones exist.

I've heard this criticism pretty much every time Seinfeld is brought up, and I fail to see the point.  Cell phones would be handy in Game of Thrones too, but hey they don't exist.  I think that anyone who is a Curb Your Enthusiasm fan will tell you that Larry David is perfectly capable of creating comedy in a world with cell phones.  They just simply WERE NOT COMMON during most of Seinfeld's run.  I got my first cell phone, the generic Nokia brick that everyone had, in 2001.  It wasn't strange at all to see people on tv without cell phones in 1998.

I don't mean it as a criticism. I just think it would be interesting to see it from the perspective of younger viewers who never knew a time when the couldn't easily contact anybody they knew at any time.

Sure, plenty of other sitcoms didn't have cell phones, but Seinfeld stands out for so many of their plots relying on the characters not being able to readily contact each other. A show like Cheers (which I'm currently working on rewatching through Netflix) doesn't have this problem. Aside from a few instances, almost none of the plots hinge at all on communication problems.


I remember watching a Dirty Harry movie with some of my younger relatives. There is one point in the movie were Dirty Harry is trying to warn his partner that the bad guys are after him, so he runs to the nearest pay phone and tries to call the guys apartment, but he isn't there so he can't warn him. Well his partner ends up getting killed.

The point is that one of my younger relatives, after that scene, commented that it was phony and said why didn't he call him on his cell. Then went on to say that he hates these older movies because they are phony because they never call anybody on their cell phones when they are in danger.  All of the people in the room that were older than 21 just quietly turned and looked at him.

How hard is it for younger people to realize certain things didn't exists and to keep a frame of reference when you are watching movies from different eras or that are set in different eras.
 
2013-04-07 03:41:54 PM  

Tax Boy: bugcrusher: "Apparently, other cast members from the show are not sharing in the billions.
Co-stars Jason Alexander, Michael Richards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus

Good thing she already has $billions from The Louis Dreyfus financial group, then.



Seriously. The woman comes from OLD money. Not "rich" money, but old world WEALTH.

/still hot as fark
 
2013-04-07 03:47:28 PM  

ongbok: How hard is it for younger people to realize certain things didn't exists and to keep a frame of reference when you are watching movies from different eras or that are set in different eras.


There was an episode of Beavis and Butthead (one of the few I watched) where Beavis asks Butthead, "Hey, what did people do before tv?" There was an uncomfortable silence, and then Butthead replied, "Shut up! There was always tv, there just used to be fewer channels."
 
2013-04-07 04:00:57 PM  

bugcrusher: foo monkey: Flappyhead: And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.

[Citation needed]

"Apparently, other cast members from the show are not sharing in the billions.
Co-stars Jason Alexander, Michael Richards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus have a portion of the revenues from sales of "Seinfeld" DVDs -- something they held out for in contract negotiations for the series' final season. But not the show's syndication money." New York Post, June 7, 2010
<http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/einfeld_rakes_in_bil_RFu9j OSt ArywzQ8I5rSvAJ>


That's a damned shame.
 
2013-04-07 04:18:54 PM  
I used to love Seinfeld and watch it all the time. Now, not so much.

Still, I'd rather watch that than (insert name of reality series here).

The video mentioned the Simpsons ending. I think a voice artist is going to have to die for that to happen at this point.

The Simpsons is awful, has been for well over a decade. Fox has nothing to replace it with. That's why it's still around. They cancel everything with potential and let the old crap brew in its own juices until it ferments into a pile of rancid shiat.
 
2013-04-07 04:29:48 PM  

darch: Tax Boy: bugcrusher: "Apparently, other cast members from the show are not sharing in the billions.
Co-stars Jason Alexander, Michael Richards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus

Good thing she already has $billions from The Louis Dreyfus financial group, then.


Seriously. The woman comes from OLD money. Not "rich" money, but old world WEALTH.

/still hot as fark


Well her dad was a famous author.
 
2013-04-07 04:31:06 PM  

Spanky3woods: [media.canada.com image 375x375]
The only reason to watch Seinfeld


It's not like she needs the money.
 
2013-04-07 04:32:46 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: The video mentioned the Simpsons ending. I think a voice artist is going to have to die for that to happen at this point.


Marge Simpson already sounds like an 80-year-old woman in the last few seasons.
 
2013-04-07 04:33:44 PM  

bugcrusher: foo monkey: Flappyhead: And none of the cast outside of Jerry has seen a nickel of it.

[Citation needed]

"Apparently, other cast members from the show are not sharing in the billions.
Co-stars Jason Alexander, Michael Richards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus have a portion of the revenues from sales of "Seinfeld" DVDs -- something they held out for in contract negotiations for the series' final season. But not the show's syndication money." New York Post, June 7, 2010
<http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/einfeld_rakes_in_bil_RFu9j OSt ArywzQ8I5rSvAJ>


I thought a minimum amount of residuals were set by the Actor's Union? Percentage-wise it isn't a lot but it adds up over time. This is the reason why TV shows used to make a big deal about hitting a 100 episodes. It meant the show could be syndicated and everybody could really start making money. Nowadays they will slap any show that lasted more than 3 episodes on to DVD so that magic number doesn't mean quite what it used to.
 
2013-04-07 04:45:58 PM  
I used to work for a TV station that ran Seinfeld in syndication.  That show was our most watched local program by far.  Nothing else was even close.
 
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