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2013-04-07 04:20:33 AM  
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-07 05:16:16 AM  
Sorry, but it's just not Wrestlemania without Kelly "Kelly Kelly" Kelly...
 
2013-04-07 08:58:30 AM  
I will see you all at 6pm CT.  It'll be a grand snarkfest.
 
2013-04-07 09:36:34 AM  
I still don't understand how a man can come out of retirement and then be threatened by being forced back into retirement if he loses again.  Eh
 
2013-04-07 09:56:08 AM  
*Resets WE WANT RYDER chant counter to 0*
 
2013-04-07 10:19:41 AM  
I'm debating over whether to go out to a bar or stay home tonight. It's been a long time since I've gone out to watch a PPV, but the possibility of being dragged into an argument over who's more awesome (Cena or Rock) is making me wonder if this whole in-person sociability thing is overrated.
 
2013-04-07 11:17:07 AM  
wrestleshare.com
Worst case scenario: Predictable as hell with HHH/Cena getting the wins back and it is all redemption; Taker wins and the match is boring since they are both hurt, Orton wins, Ziggler opens BUT doesn't cash in, Del Rio wins as a superface and that's it, Puffy gets more time so they shorten interesting things, Ryback wins a terrible match


Average case scenario: Predictable as hell with HHH/Cena getting the wins back and it is all redemption; Taker wins and the match is boring since they are both hurt, Orton wins, Ziggler opens and cashes in, Puffy gets more time so they shorten interesting things, Ryback wins a terrible match

Best case scenario: The crowd chants "WE WANT RYDER" during HHH-Bork, something other than Cena celebrating with the troops to end the match, Ziggler cashes, Mizark carries Ryback somehow to a good big man match, Fandango is a great wrestler and that match goes 20 minutes, and out of nowhere Punk-Taker closes (if they close, I don't care how it ends since at least we won't know for sure what the outcome is)
 
2013-04-07 11:20:36 AM  
Anyone know how to request the mods/admins to greenlight this at 5pm? I'm going to blame the Captain (because like Cena, he can take our jeers), but Preshow starts at 6pm. That would give us an hour of prep/hijinks, then preshow. It's a lot to ask of them though, especially given that the thread runs til post-11 probably. Is that something you use farkback for, it doesn't seem like the notify mod/admin buttons are meant for that

/5843 posts to go
 
2013-04-07 12:43:36 PM  

TheManofPA: Anyone know how to request the mods/admins to greenlight this at 5pm?


I'll take care of it, but don't you think 5:30 would be enough before broadcast starts? Not that it matters to us, but the link gets bumped down the page further the earlier it goes live.
 
2013-04-07 12:58:54 PM  

TheManofPA: I'm going to blame the Captain (because like Cena, he can take our jeers), but Preshow starts at 6pm.


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-07 01:18:06 PM  
 
2013-04-07 01:53:22 PM  
After I posted, I was called this morning in regards to the passing of one of my best friends.

I have to tend to family and friend matters, so I will not be watching WM and in the thread (depending on who you ask, that could be a good thing on both).

Have fun guys, remember it's just sports entertainment, and that John Cena is watching you poop.

- FFF
 
2013-04-07 01:54:20 PM  
This should be a decent card. Ziggles for WHC!!!
 
2013-04-07 02:02:07 PM  

FinFangFark: After I posted, I was called this morning in regards to the passing of one of my best friends.

I have to tend to family and friend matters, so I will not be watching WM and in the thread (depending on who you ask, that could be a good thing on both).

Have fun guys, remember it's just sports entertainment, and that John Cena is watching you poop.

- FFF


Oh, f**k! I'm really sorry to hear that, dude. :-(

Take care of yourself, your family and friends. Okay?
 
2013-04-07 02:23:30 PM  
I will be at work as a cashier at Walmart, so I will be unable to watch/join in. My predictions:
Preshow = Barrett vs Miz for IC title = Miz wins because frankly, no one cares.
Tons of Funk vs Rhodes Scholars = Scholars win, but Funks celebrate in the end
Jericho vs Fandango = I can't believe this is a WM match. Jericho wins but Dangoo celebrates in the end
Lesnar vs HHH = HHH wins since Lesnar won last time. HHH gets his revenge because it's best for business-eh
Hell No vs Dolph & E = Dolph and E win, leading to the Kane/Dragon split
Ryback vs Henry = Henry wins in a better match than expected, leading to Rybacks heel turn
Supermen vs Shield = Shield in a hell of a match, leading to Orton's poop turn
Undertaker vs Punk = before Bearers death I would have said Punk, but the way things have gone since then, I'm saying Taker. I want Cena vs Taker at Mania XXX
DelRio vs Swagger = Swagger, but Ziggler cashes in and wins
Rock vs Cena = Cena in the "Lock of the Week"

i1170.photobucket.com
/That's a pretty big lock
 
2013-04-07 02:27:02 PM  
www.deviantart.com
 
2013-04-07 02:28:28 PM  

robsul82: [www.deviantart.com image 709x960]


Tonight would be PERFECT for a Cena heel turn. Remember when Austin turned heel at Mania?
 
2013-04-07 02:35:05 PM  

dugitman: TheManofPA: Anyone know how to request the mods/admins to greenlight this at 5pm?

I'll take care of it, but don't you think 5:30 would be enough before broadcast starts? Not that it matters to us, but the link gets bumped down the page further the earlier it goes live.


That should work well and nice point on the bumped down the page. It doesn't get said enough, but you've always been really helpful to this group/these threads, dug.
 
2013-04-07 02:36:33 PM  

FinFangFark: After I posted, I was called this morning in regards to the passing of one of my best friends.

I have to tend to family and friend matters, so I will not be watching WM and in the thread (depending on who you ask, that could be a good thing on both).

Have fun guys, remember it's just sports entertainment, and that John Cena is watching you poop.

- FFF


Sorry to hear about the passing. Good luck with everything and with helping friends and family. FFF
 
2013-04-07 02:40:22 PM  

The Downfall: robsul82: [www.deviantart.com image 709x960]

Tonight would be PERFECT for a Cena heel turn. Remember when Austin turned heel at Mania?


Nope.  Cena is the ONLY person who can do Make a Wish stuff.  Just ask him.
 
2013-04-07 02:44:58 PM  

robsul82: Let's start this off right - the greatest match in the history of history, complete with an excellent prematch promo by Pettengill and the classic postmatch wrap-up by JR.


That's... a pretty good call, actually. o.o

I guess the only way to follow that is with the greatest TAG TEAM match in WrestleMania history! >:-)
 
2013-04-07 02:48:55 PM  

robsul82: The Downfall: robsul82: [www.deviantart.com image 709x960]

Tonight would be PERFECT for a Cena heel turn. Remember when Austin turned heel at Mania?

Nope.  Cena is the ONLY person who can do Make a Wish stuff.  Just ask him.


I think it MIGHT happen tonight. I doubt it, but maybe. Oh that's right, Vince, you don't have anyone else kids like. You don't have Sheamus or Kofi Kingston or Alberto Del Rio (for the Mexican kids) or Brodus Clay or Daniel Bryan or hot divas or countless other talented individuals who you know how to get kids to like that you can turn face if needed. Some kids might even want to meet the #heels such as Punk or Ziggler or Henry. Thesz help you if Cena's leg ever goes Sid Vicious on you at a PPV.
 
2013-04-07 02:53:01 PM  
Also, the headline should have used the Tooth Fairy instead of Roadblock
 
2013-04-07 02:59:21 PM  

The Downfall: Also, the headline should have used the Tooth Fairy instead of Roadblock


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-07 03:18:49 PM  

Captain Steroid: The Downfall: Also, the headline should have used the Tooth Fairy instead of Roadblock

[i1182.photobucket.com image 640x360]


So....over/under on ribbings for Captain Steroid tonight: 45? He might be the new Dougie.

I'll try to have a Wrestlemania guessing game ready for preshow. Seriously though, that's the undercard for tonight's great trivia challenge anyhow.

And Cena isn't turning heel. I'm hoping though the crowd is hot. Has anyone read the reports from the HOF, snarky as all hell.
 
2013-04-07 03:23:00 PM  

TheManofPA: Has anyone read the reports from the HOF, snarky as all hell.


Hahaha, yep.  Vince must've been thrilled at his DRESS UP NICE FOR THIS NERDS event.
 
2013-04-07 04:25:05 PM  
Hornswoggle on Mizark and Khali:

"I took that, and it was the most pain I've ever been in in my life. He's 400lbs of Man, of just MAN. I don't know what else to say about him other than he's just MAN. Khali actually goes, 'Thank god it was you brother,' at least I think that's what he said. I can understand about every third word and I've been with him for six years now."
 
2013-04-07 04:31:44 PM  
i1182.photobucket.com

My picks for tonight:

- The Marine 3 beats Wade Barrett for the Intercontinental Title

- Rhodes Scholars & Bella Twins over The Funkadactyls and the Fat F**ks

- FanDANgoooo beats Y2J by DQ because Jericho refuses to release the Liontamer Walls of Jericho for 20+ minutes

- Kane & DBD retain the Tag Team titles over Dolph Ziggler and not-Mr. Hughes, because Ziggles doesn't give a s**t for some reason... >_>

- Ryback pays his air bill, beats Mark Henry

- The Shield remains intact against Sheamus, Randy Orton, and the Big Show

- Alberto Del Rio successfully defends the World Heavyweight Championship against the Tea Party and Jack Swagger...

... only for Dolph Ziggler to SHOW THE WORLD his MitB briefcase, cash in, and win the World Heavyweight Title moments later! (My wizard hat is on stand-by for that one. ^_^)

- UPSET WARNING! Brock Lesnar beats HHH, "ending" Hunter's career until sometime around Survivor Series.

- The Undertaker goes 21-0, but C.M. Punk carries him to the best match on the card in the process.

- 12 Rounds beats Faster for the WWE Championship, to the delight of NO ONE.
 
2013-04-07 04:36:12 PM  

Captain Steroid: ... only for Dolph Ziggler to SHOW THE WORLD his MitB briefcase, cash in, and win the World Heavyweight Title moments later! (My wizard hat is on stand-by for that one. ^_^)


My super duper wizard hat is waiting on my call at No Way Out that Thwagger would win the shot and Ziggler would cash at WM after a defeated Thwagger left Del Rio laying, sheeeeeeeit.
 
2013-04-07 05:04:51 PM  

robsul82: Captain Steroid: ... only for Dolph Ziggler to SHOW THE WORLD his MitB briefcase, cash in, and win the World Heavyweight Title moments later! (My wizard hat is on stand-by for that one. ^_^)

My super duper wizard hat is waiting on my call at No Way Out Elimination Chamber that Thwagger would win the shot and Ziggler would cash at WM after a defeated Thwagger left Del Rio laying, sheeeeeeeit.


FTFM.  Used to be No Way Out anyway.
 
2013-04-07 05:04:56 PM  
WM Guessing Game: 1 point each
The Matches:
Wade Barret vs. Miz
Tons of Funk vs. Rhodes Scholars (with the ladies)
Jericho vs. FAN-DAN-GO
Hell No vs. Show-off and Big E's twitter account
Ryback vs. Mizark
Team Bags, Bears, and Beers vs. Shield
Del Rio vs. America
HHH vs. Bork in the Steph on a Pole Match
Taker vs. Punk
Cena vs. Our Hopes and Dreams

Match Specifics:
Will there be a Diva's match (not counting bellas thing)?
What will be the filler match/squash?
Which match opens the main show?
Which happens earlier: HHH-Bork or Taker-Punk?
What is the main event?
Does Ziggler cash it in?
Does Ziggler win the WHC?
What is considered the match of the night?

The Bonuses:
Will Ryder appear DURING WM (not preshow)?
Will they do the HOFers out on stage?
What will be the funniest chant of the night?
Will Vince appear live during WM?
What is the funniest moment of the night?
Does Paul Bearer's image come into play at all (i.e. any pictures of him during the show)?
How many Rock promo trailers are there?
Does anyone do a face turn/heel turn?

AND FINALLY (5 points):
What is the biggest surprise of the night?
 
2013-04-07 05:25:10 PM  
Well, folks I've decided to actually be RL sociable and I am headed to town to see Wrestlemania at a local watering hole. I will be checking in here and there on my phone, but I figured this was the best option

Now for my Clintster Guaranteed Wrestlemania predictions (50% of the time, they're right every time)
_____________________________________________________________________ _ __________

Miz hits the shiatty figure four to make Wade Barrett tap; however the ref won't see it and Wade retains.

Team Rhodes Bellas takes the win over Tons of Funkadactyls

BangTango pays homage to Eddie Guerrero and cheats to win over Y2Bother

Hell No goes over Team Biggie Ziggie when The Dazzler pins Big E. Dolph will seem "distracted", as will Kane.

Mizark will not be splashed, pins Ryberg

Team Bag o' SHOOOOOOOWY Limes finishes off The Shield, but Orton Ortons over everything when he RKOs his teammates and becomes the fourth Shield member

Ricardo's Buddy will defend the honor of America against the Tea Thwagger when.... I'M HERE TO SHOW THE WOOOOOOOOOOORLD Ziggles cashes in, Zig Zag, BOOM! New WHC

Bork Laser beats Gagne via Heymanference, leading Cranky Vince to declare a rematch tomorrow night, which Gagne will win (surprise surprise surprise)

Taker goes 21-0; Heyman gets chokeslammed to Hell by Kane (with Good Ol JR screaming BAH GAWD KING a few dozen times)

Cena pins Rock; no heel turn, but the NY/NJ (really, Vince?) crowd will shiat on him so bad, he'll wish he had turned to justify the heat.

I still say Kaitlyn/AJ will happen as a surprise match somewhere on the card.
_____________________________________________________________________ _ ________
A Japaneer will appear within the first hour to call everyone a "buncha marks"

An fWc Nexus member will gredunza, a realtive newcomer will claim the 2008, 3012 will be a botch

Ponies... Ponies EVERYWHERE!

Final post count (+- 200)... 3850

See ya at the bar!
 
2013-04-07 05:27:53 PM  

FinFangFark: After I posted, I was called this morning in regards to the passing of one of my best friends.

I have to tend to family and friend matters, so I will not be watching WM and in the thread (depending on who you ask, that could be a good thing on both).

Have fun guys, remember it's just sports entertainment, and that John Cena is watching you poop.

- FFF


Sorry to hear that Triple F. We'll keep the thread running in their honor. Take care and come back ready to kick ass next week.,
 
2013-04-07 05:32:37 PM  
Happy Super Bowl, everyone

So I wrote a blog post with my WM predictions. I'll just share the link here, so that it doesn't clutter up so much space as everyone posts their responses to ManofPA's game. Feel free to critique me.

Link
 
2013-04-07 05:33:56 PM  
 From the WM Press Conference: The future of the biz, ladies and gents, for better and for worse:
thebullfish.com
 
2013-04-07 05:34:24 PM  
i.imgur.com

It's tonight! We will crown an undisputed trivia champion!
 
2013-04-07 05:38:40 PM  
Damn, just saw this when I posted. Thanks, TheMan!
(my guesses in BOLD)
_________________________________________
WM Guessing Game: 1 point each
The Matches:
Wade Barret vs. Miz
Tons of Funk vs. Rhodes Scholars (with the ladies)
Jericho vs. DEL TACO
Hell No
vs. Show-off and Big E's twitter account
Ryback vs. Mizark
Team Bags, Bears, and Beers
vs. Shield
Del Rio vs. America
HHH vs. Bork in the Steph on a Pole Match
Taker vs. Punk
Cena vs. Our Hopes and Dreams

Match Specifics:
Will there be a Diva's match (not counting bellas thing)? Yes, TwoTone/AJ (AJ wins!)
What will be the filler match/squash? See Divas match above
Which match opens the main show? Hell No-Biggie Ziggy
Which happens earlier: HHH-Bork or Taker-Punk? HHH-Bork
What is the main event? Twice in a Lifetime is Twice Too Many
Does Ziggler cash it in? YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
Does Ziggler win the WHC? YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! 
What is considered the match of the night? Punk Match is Best Match

The Bonuses:
Will Ryder appear DURING WM (not preshow)? If backstage counts, yes; he gets shoved by Ryberg
Will they do the HOFers out on stage? Yes they will - Bruno gets the loudest cheers
What will be the funniest chant of the night? BOOTS TO ASHES (clap clap clapclapclap)
Will Vince appear live during WM? Surprisingly, no
What is the funniest moment of the night? Funkadactyls do a prematch Spinaroonie in tribute to Booker T; Clay and Albert try with failtastic results
Does Paul Bearer's image come into play at all (i.e. any pictures of him during the show)? Other than Heyman Bearer in recaps, no
How many Rock promo trailers are there? 3
Does anyone do a face turn/heel turn? I call Orton goes heel, Mizark goes face by default, and Cena rethinks his "nobody turn me" policy

AND FINALLY (5 points):
What is the biggest surprise of the night?
The return of RVD
 
2013-04-07 05:39:26 PM  

FinFangFark: After I posted, I was called this morning in regards to the passing of one of my best friends.

I have to tend to family and friend matters, so I will not be watching WM and in the thread (depending on who you ask, that could be a good thing on both).

Have fun guys, remember it's just sports entertainment, and that John Cena is watching you poop.

- FFF


Sorry to hear about that, buddy. Thoughts and prayers headed your way.
 
2013-04-07 05:39:43 PM  
Cena won't turn, but I'm holding out hope that Rock will because that's the only way Cena doesn't win tonight. Cena's got it won, all of a sudden someone runs into the ring...BAW GOD it's VIN DIESEL! Diesel lays out Cena and Rock gets the victory. The crowd boos, Diesel and Rock flex, Fast and the Furious 6 coming to a theater near you.
 
2013-04-07 05:40:41 PM  
WM Guessing Game: 1 point each
The Matches:
Wade Barret vs. Miz - Miz
Tons of Funk vs. Rhodes Scholars (with the ladies) - Tons of Flab
Jericho vs. FAN-DAN-GO - Johnny Curtis
Hell No vs. Show-off and Big E's twitter account - Team Zig E
Ryback vs. Mizark - Why Tee Langston
Team Bags, Bears, and Beers vs. Shield - Shield
Del Rio vs. America - Del Rio
HHH vs. Bork in the Steph on a Pole Match - Gagne
Taker vs. Punk - Taker
Cena vs. Our Hopes and Dreams - Cena

Match Specifics:
Will there be a Diva's match (not counting bellas thing)? - Yes, I'm guessing AJ v. Kaitlyn
What will be the filler match/squash? - AJ v. Kaitlyn, Cesaro vs. a pre-show battle royal winner (wee lil' Evan)
Which match opens the main show? - Cesaro vs. Evan Bourne
Which happens earlier: HHH-Bork or Taker-Punk? Taker/Punk
What is the main event? Cena/Rock
Does Ziggler cash it in? Yes
Does Ziggler win the WHC? YES! YES! YES!
What is considered the match of the night? Jericho vs. Fandango

The Bonuses:
Will Ryder appear DURING WM (not preshow)? lol...no.
Will they do the HOFers out on stage? No seriously, that last question was hilarious. And no
What will be the funniest chant of the night? Paige is gonna kill you (during the Diva's title match or the Bella match)
Will Vince appear live during WM? Yes
What is the funniest moment of the night? Lesnar crying. Or Trips crying. Either way, I win.
Does Paul Bearer's image come into play at all (i.e. any pictures of him during the show)? Yes, they'll show the tribute video.
How many Rock promo trailers are there? 3 for movies, 2 for the match vs. Cena
Does anyone do a face turn/heel turn? Yes: Orton, Ziggler, and Cena.

AND FINALLY (5 points):
What is the biggest surprise of the night? Cena turns heel and is revealed to be the mastermind of the Shield
 
2013-04-07 05:41:00 PM  

tbaughm: Happy Super Bowl, everyone

So I wrote a blog post with my WM predictions. I'll just share the link here, so that it doesn't clutter up so much space as everyone posts their responses to ManofPA's game. Feel free to critique me.

Link


If Sexual Chocolate came back, it'd be a bigger pop than if Ryder randomly won the IC or US belts tonight.

As for your taker thing. I'm still a fan that the last WM match should be Taker vs. Unified (or WWE Champ) in a Belt vs. Streak match. However, it would be VERY classy if there was a Taker-Kane double retirement match and it ended with them after about 40 minutes, collapsing and having a double pin. Match is declared a draw, Taker is undefeated, but Kane is the first not to lose, both retire out of respect for the final match.
 
2013-04-07 05:44:27 PM  

TheManofPA: tbaughm: Happy Super Bowl, everyone

So I wrote a blog post with my WM predictions. I'll just share the link here, so that it doesn't clutter up so much space as everyone posts their responses to ManofPA's game. Feel free to critique me.

Link

If Sexual Chocolate came back, it'd be a bigger pop than if Ryder randomly won the IC or US belts tonight.

As for your taker thing. I'm still a fan that the last WM match should be Taker vs. Unified (or WWE Champ) in a Belt vs. Streak match. However, it would be VERY classy if there was a Taker-Kane double retirement match and it ended with them after about 40 minutes, collapsing and having a double pin. Match is declared a draw, Taker is undefeated, but Kane is the first not to lose, both retire out of respect for the final match.


There's no way Mizark revives that gimmick...if he did though, it'd be the best moment of the night by far.
 
2013-04-07 05:44:49 PM  
With my fWc t-shirt on, Triple Oak prepares for WM. Not sure of my location for viewing but it shall be glorious.(ly bad)
 
2013-04-07 05:45:13 PM  
Only Wrestlemania could bring me out of lurking status. Let's do this.
 
2013-04-07 05:47:14 PM  
I've alerted FWC Japan to the trivia challenge, but I doubt it'll entice them to make a full-blown comeback. Don't be surprised if some old faces appear though.
 
2013-04-07 05:47:27 PM  
Read an interesting rumor this week. As with all wrestling rumors, it's probably complete bullshiat, but I think it's a neat idea anyway:

The original plan for the IC and Euro titles was an 8-man double ladder match with each belt on the line individually.
 
2013-04-07 05:48:28 PM  
er, IC and US.  As you can see, I've already started drinking.
 
2013-04-07 05:48:39 PM  

TheManofPA: WM Guessing Game: 1 point each
The Matches:
Wade Barret vs. Miz
Tons of Funk
vs. Rhodes Scholars (with the ladies)
Jericho vs. FAN-DAN-GO
Hell No
vs. Show-off and Big E's twitter account
Ryback vs. Mizark
Team Bags, Bears, and Beers vs. Shield
Del Rio
vs. America
HHH vs. Bork in the Steph on a Pole Match
Taker
vs. Punk
Cena vs. Our Hopes and Dreams

Match Specifics:
Will there be a Diva's match (not counting bellas thing)? No
What will be the filler match/squash? Cesaro vs Kofi
Which match opens the main show? Miz
Which happens earlier: HHH-Bork or Taker-Punk? Taker
What is the main event? Rock
Does Ziggler cash it in? Yes
Does Ziggler win the WHC? Yes
What is considered the match of the night? FAN DANGO

The Bonuses:
Will Ryder appear DURING WM (not preshow)? No
Will they do the HOFers out on stage? No
What will be the funniest chant of the night? You tapped out
Will Vince appear live during WM? Yes
What is the funniest moment of the night? The idea HHH could put up a fight against Brock
Does Paul Bearer's image come into play at all (i.e. any pictures of him during the show)? Yes
How many Rock promo trailers are there? 12
Does anyone do a face turn/heel turn? Orton

AND FINALLY (5 points):
What is the biggest surprise of the night?

HHH loses
 
2013-04-07 05:51:33 PM  
From last night's HOF ceremony:
John Cena was reportedly booed out of the building by the live crowd at Madison Square Garden, and even a Make-A-Wish video that WWE aired featuring Cena received a negative reaction from the crowd.

THE NYC CROWD BOOED MAKE A WISH BECAUSE JOHN CENA WAS INVOLVED
 
2013-04-07 05:52:37 PM  
$70? Damn, I gotta figure out a way to write this off. Ah well, my kids love it.

AJ saying hi to my kids last fall after buying a bunch of comic books off me.
 
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