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(ESPN)   It's the off season, less than a month before the draft and no team seems interested in Tim Tebow. Let's check in with ESPN to see if they'll be able to find a way to discuss Tim Tebow? Maybe throw together a Tim Tebow Top Ten?   (espn.go.com) divider line 76
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2013-04-07 01:38:07 PM
this article is a week old, wtf
 
2013-04-07 01:48:56 PM

Gosling: cameroncrazy1984: That has never happened in the history of ever. The third string gimmick quarterback is never the locker room cancer.

He was the second-stringer until it came time to promote the second stringer. McElroy was the third stringer and leapfrogged Tebow.


Tebow was the second stringer in name only to keep the front office happy.  There was no way in hell they were putting him under center if Sanchez went down or got pulled.
 
2013-04-07 01:56:32 PM

Wadded Beef: but the minority, heavy-religious types wouldn't hear it


And now we know why certain Fark types hate Tebow with a fury that rivals the temperature of the sun.
It's just anti-religious prejudice, something incredibly common on this site.
 
2013-04-07 02:03:20 PM

Gosling: cameroncrazy1984: That has never happened in the history of ever. The third string gimmick quarterback is never the locker room cancer.

He was the second-stringer until it came time to promote the second stringer. McElroy was the third stringer and leapfrogged Tebow.


Wouldn't be the first time.

Link

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2013-04-07 02:07:28 PM

Gosling: Well, then Ryan's a shiatty head coach, because one of your most important responsibilities as a coach is to get your players to trust you


No Ryan's a shiatty head coach because he doesn't win many football games.  You don't need your players to trust you with regard to the bindingness of the depth chart.  The Patriots will sometimes brutally run players out of town when they don't feel like they measure up, yet you don't hear that management is in danger of losing the locker room.

Mike Shanahan named Brian Griese the week 1 starter after telling Bubby Brister and the world that it was Brister's job to lose during the preseason.  He benched Jake Plummer after Plummer got the Broncos to the AFC championship game.  He didn't lose the team at that point.  It wasn't until he decided that defensive talent was secondary to gimmickry that players decided to tune him out.

If the Jets had gone 10-6 last season, people would be talking about how deftly Rex Ryan handled everything with Sanchez/Tebow.
 
2013-04-07 02:12:04 PM

GreatGlavinsGhost: Gosling: cameroncrazy1984: That has never happened in the history of ever. The third string gimmick quarterback is never the locker room cancer.

He was the second-stringer until it came time to promote the second stringer. McElroy was the third stringer and leapfrogged Tebow.

Wouldn't be the first time.

Link

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POS with his "eye black" religious quote. How did it help you with that game Tim?
 
2013-04-07 02:15:42 PM

Gosling: Generation_D, you're talking about something completely different from what I'm talking about. Just because a player sucks doesn't give you the right to farking lie to him about his place on the depth chart.


I would assume you had inside knowledge of the Jets conversations that occurred between Ryan and Tebow, and that these conversations were never superseded by more fact-based subsequent assessment?

Why ream Ryan for trying to do whats best for his team. Ryan wants to win, I think we've all seen that. If you question Ryan's judgment, and you're a Jets fan, if you want a new coach that's your right as a fan to want that.

Otherwise, its Ryan's team and whatever you think you have in the way of information about the relationship between Ryan and Tebow is almost certainly based on third hand knowledge, by people not present, who quite possibly (in the case of ESPN) have a profit-driven motive to keep the hype going as long as possible.

You're free to believe what you want, but its amusing to the point of point-and-laugh funny how much you're white knighting this alleged promise made to Tebow by an NFL coach. NFL coaches promise to win. Period. He owes Tebow nothing, if he saw crap on film he didn't like about Tebow he's under zero obligation to play him if he thinks it helps his team win by not playing him.

I find it odd that you'd think you were in the room when Ryan promised this job to Tebow, and also were in the room where it was sworn to on a stack of bibles never to be able to be revisited later if evidence the coach sees warrants it.

Like said, you can question the coaches W's and L's, but its funny how you think something he said was law forever. Why would you think that? Why do you think its "unfair" to a journeyman QB?

Case in point: The Seahawks "promised" Matt Flynn the starting job of QB. And that lasted until about 3rd week of pre-season. I don't see anyone crying about how Flynn was "promised," except for some stray Green Bay fans that thought we owed it to their former player to play and prove his worth. Didn't happen that way, instead we went with the 3rd round pick, and the coach got it to work out. Question Carroll, many did, but the results speak for themselves, and results is what the NFL is about.

So if you want to question Tebow not playing, at least cite Ryan's crap record as evidence he should, not harp on how "unfair" it is. The league's always going to be "unfair" to someone, thats what competition is.
 
rka
2013-04-07 02:17:48 PM

Kurmudgeon: Wadded Beef: but the minority, heavy-religious types wouldn't hear it

And now we know why certain Fark types hate Tebow with a fury that rivals the temperature of the sun.
It's just anti-religious prejudice, something incredibly common on this site.


But at the end of the day Tebow sits on the bench due to being found lacking in NFL skills not because of his religion. People would do well to keep that part straight. No one on Fark is keeping Tebow down.

Pro football (sports in general)  teams are riddled with religious people, Tebow is SO not special in that regard. Kurt Warner is thought of in a mostly positive light, he's quite outspoken about his Christianity. No ones seems to hate him because he's religious.

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2013-04-07 02:24:15 PM

Kurmudgeon: Wadded Beef: but the minority, heavy-religious types wouldn't hear it

And now we know why certain Fark types hate Tebow with a fury that rivals the temperature of the sun.
It's just anti-religious prejudice, something incredibly common on this site.


Is it anti-religious prejudice to look at the results on the field and look at the style of his play and judge him a so-so NFL backup *at best* ? I think the zealots wanting him to play actually cause more scrutiny to fall on him, which in turn causes him to lose out.

When beating up college competition he was fine, guess what, about 10-20 great college QB a year don't make it far in the NFL. Its that great of a league. And most of them don't parade around on ESPN claiming the LORD was partly involved.

ESPN likes promoting him because it apparently was profitable for them to be part of the Tim Tebow Show for a while, now thats all fun and over with.

Great comparison: Monday Night Football, inaugural season, 1970s. The Oakland Raiders began their legend as "a come from behind team" when they started playing a 46 year old QB named George Blanda. For a few weeks Blanda led his team to victory after improbable victory, soon the Raiders were on Monday Night Football every week. For fun he was also the teams field goal kicker, so in one game Blanda threw for 2 TD in the 4th quarter then kicked the game winning FG. George Blanda became synonymous with late-game heroics.

Did it last? No, the league figured out how to defend a 46 year old QB who was picking apart basic defenses in the late stages of games calling his own plays (even then, teams were moving away from allowing that). Oakland was already a good team, but they didn't go to the Super Bowl that year, nor any year with Blanda calling the plays. He was a good player under very controlled circumstances (as a 46 year old -- as a regular for the Chicago Bears ... or as the first QB for the expansion Houston Oilers he had been pretty great actually .. but those are other stories. Visit the Pro Football Hall of Fame, you'll learn things.)

Tebow the legend will last years; the fact of Tebow is he is a backup QB who had a lucky draw and set the nation on fire for about a month, pulling out some close wins in close games beating up tired defenses that were't set up specifically to stop him.

Thats not the same as wanting him as your featured QB.
 
2013-04-07 02:34:48 PM

Mentat: Gosling: rka: After it became apparent that the Jets coaching staff had nothing but contempt for Tebow, the idea that he, as a gimmick foisted on the team by upper management, would hold any sway in the locker room is absurd.

You're thinking in terms of 'Tebow makes everyone hate Ryan instantly'. No. Think like 'Tebow gets in the head of some other back-of-the-depth-chart guy, that guy gets in the head of a third guy, third guy gets in the head of a fourth guy, and it telephone-games through the locker room until Tebow's fingerprints aren't visible anymore'.

Mark Sanchez said that Darrelle Revis said that Santonio Holmes told him that he heard Skip Bayless say that Tim Tebow thought Rex Ryan was a total douchebag, but he didn't say douchebag cause he's Christian or something, but I don't think I want to play for the Jets anymore.


And if Skip Bayless is involved, you can count on his being among the most useless/toxic/hypocritical contributions going. No issue is too small for Skippy to make into a huge deal, so he can white-knight whatever moronic view drives the most pageviews or ratings or controversy. ESPN loves this crap apparently. Bayless is real good at his job, creating controversy out of nothing.
 
2013-04-07 02:42:11 PM

jake_lex: born_yesterday: Good.  The sooner he's out of football, the sooner he can get into politics where he truly belongs.

I got a sawbuck here that says he's the pastor of a megachurch within 5 years.


Won't take that long my over under is a year. That's where the real money is. He'll make way more at a megachurch than as a football player.
 
2013-04-07 02:45:36 PM

Rent Party: jake_lex: born_yesterday: Good.  The sooner he's out of football, the sooner he can get into politics where he truly belongs.

I got a sawbuck here that says he's the pastor of a megachurch within 5 years.

Mayor of Jacksonville, then roving pastor for churches that need a thrill to put butts in the pews.


That's a good point he can probably make more in appearance fees at other megachurches than running his own.
 
2013-04-07 03:05:58 PM

Kurmudgeon: Wadded Beef: but the minority, heavy-religious types wouldn't hear it

And now we know why certain Fark types hate Tebow with a fury that rivals the temperature of the sun.
It's just anti-religious prejudice, something incredibly common on this site.


Oooh...10/10.
 
2013-04-07 05:19:37 PM

Kurmudgeon: It's just anti-religious prejudice, something incredibly common on this site.


What can we say, we hate dumb people.
 
2013-04-07 05:41:37 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: HaywoodJablonski: Tebow
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2013-04-07 06:43:36 PM

Gosling: Generation_D: The Jets didn't do this already? Or was his lack of playing time just fuel for the "he never got a fair chance" crowd?

No. The Jets DIDN'T do that. Ryan farking LIED to him. All season he was told he was the #2 guy, and then when Butt Fumble forced Ryan's hand, he sent in McElroy and made clear to Tebow that, no, you've actually been #3 all along.


I find it hilarious that you are upset at Rex Ryan for doing to him what (I assume) you were ok with John Fox doing his EXACT same thing to Brady Quinn in order for Tebow to get his start.
 
2013-04-07 06:53:31 PM

Gosling: cameroncrazy1984: That has never happened in the history of ever. The third string gimmick quarterback is never the locker room cancer.

He was the second-stringer until it came time to promote the second stringer. McElroy was the third stringer and leapfrogged Tebow.


Which is exactly how Timmah got his start in Denver!

/I'm not sure, but is this the very definition of irony?
//can I get an on-the-field ruling by the Farm irony police
///cue Alanis
 
2013-04-07 07:34:39 PM
Packers should pick up Tebow, I envision a great play where at the snap Rodgers pitches/laterals out to Cobb so he can hit Tebow on a fly/deep post/corner read.  Could work the flea flicker in too, it's not just Cobb, Rodgers can throw too.
 
2013-04-07 09:09:17 PM
Same Tebow thread, same biatch ass haters crying.
 
2013-04-07 09:16:33 PM

bel4sucks: Same Tebow thread, same biatch ass haters crying.


I don't think "laughing at until you have tears rolling down your face" is the same thing as "crying"
 
2013-04-07 09:38:15 PM

born_yesterday: Good.  The sooner he's out of football, the sooner he can get into politics where he truly belongs.


A mens restroom?
 
2013-04-07 10:10:43 PM

rka: Pro football (sports in general)  teams are riddled with religious people, Tebow is SO not special in that regard. Kurt Warner is thought of in a mostly positive light, he's quite outspoken about his Christianity. No ones seems to hate him because he's religious.


I'm convinced that the idea of people hating Tebow for his religion is completely contrived by the press and the "help I'm being oppressed" crowd. Your usage of Warner is a perfect example. He was a well above-average player and no one cared when he praised Jesus in every single interview.

People dislike Tebow because of the unwarranted attention to a mediocre (or outright sh*tty) product. It's the same reason plenty of people despise the Cowboys. They're tired of their sports shows being dominated by something largely irrelevant. His personal faith has nothing to do with it.
 
2013-04-08 02:56:36 AM

Proletariat In Charge: I find it hilarious that you are upset at Rex Ryan for doing to him what (I assume) you were ok with John Fox doing his EXACT same thing to Brady Quinn in order for Tebow to get his start.


John Fox really didn't have much of a choice in the matter one way or the other. The fans in Denver basically went 'If Tebow Doesn't Start We Riot' on him.
 
2013-04-08 12:15:08 PM

cameroncrazy1984: bel4sucks: Same Tebow thread, same biatch ass haters crying.

I don't think "laughing at until you have tears rolling down your face" is the same thing as "crying"


Eh, jealousy is a biatch, I guess some of you just deal with it differently
 
2013-04-08 12:15:45 PM

Gosling: The fans in Denver basically went 'If Tebow Doesn't Start We Riot' on him


How did that end up working out for us?
 
2013-04-09 04:18:46 PM

Flappyhead: Gosling: cameroncrazy1984: That has never happened in the history of ever. The third string gimmick quarterback is never the locker room cancer.

He was the second-stringer until it came time to promote the second stringer. McElroy was the third stringer and leapfrogged Tebow.

Tebow was the second stringer in name only to keep the front office happy.  There was no way in hell they were putting him under center if Sanchez went down or got pulled.


whenever Sanchez gets pulled, i immediately suspect Tebow.
 
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