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(The New York Times)   After careful analysis of mass shootings, police advise that members of the public who find themselves in the midst of one should "run away, hide, or fight back." This report was delivered by police spokesmen Capt. Obvious and Detective N.S. Sherlock   (nytimes.com) divider line 20
    More: Obvious, mass shooting, Texas State University, Houston Police Department, Columbine High School, Holocaust survivors, Virginia Tech, Seung-Hui Cho  
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2013-04-06 08:29:53 PM
3 votes:

toraque: Well, goddammit, apparently my 'break into a song and dance routine' plan isn't a good one then.


Yeah, that's why so many black guys got killed in 'Nam. The Sarge would yell "Get down!" - and they'd all jump up and start to dance.
2013-04-06 08:44:03 PM
2 votes:
Brave, brave Sir Robin....
2013-04-06 07:56:59 PM
2 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: I don't like any of those options.  I need more.


Masturbate furiously?
2013-04-06 10:57:18 PM
1 votes:
I'll have to update my list.

1. Run away
2. Hide
3. Make a cake
4. Fight back
2013-04-06 10:52:22 PM
1 votes:
August, 1999. I was not even 21 yet, and had only one rifle to my name, a Bushmaster AR15 clone (XM15). About 8pm, heard lots of yelling downstairs (I was in my upstairs studio). Then, shots. I loaded and turned off the tv. Went outside to the top of the stairs leading to my apt and its two adjacent ones. Wanted to make sure I could control who was coming up. Mostly hid at the top, behind the railing alongside the stairs. I heard about another 2 shots, and then nothing more. Police sirens about 2-3 minutes later.  Found out much later that someone had fired shots at a nearby apartment building. Nobody was hit (I think).

Did I stop the shooter? No.
Did I save anyone's life? No.
Did I even use my rifle to defend myself? No.

But I'll tell you one thing. I sure as hell felt a lot safer. So did my neighbor, who saw me sitting there. He got his baseball bat and hung out with me there until cops had the whole 4x4 blocks locked down with chopper overhead and all.

I'd like to think that I have what it takes to stop a murderer if it comes to it. But if nothing else, I am responsible for my own safety - and I did so without depending on the vagaries of others.
2013-04-06 09:33:33 PM
1 votes:
So using my mobile phone to get video to post to YouTube is right out then?
2013-04-06 09:27:52 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: If a lib was in a movie theater that was actively being shot up


Already your premise is wrong. No self-respecting smug leftist would be caught dead (you should pardon the expression) in a suburban theatre showing mass-appeal pap. That's for the sheeple. Libs only go to them fancy independent thee-atres with the subtitles and the French and the lesbians with hairy armpits and Michael Moore.
2013-04-06 09:05:01 PM
1 votes:
Fight back with what? Harsh language?
2013-04-06 08:25:52 PM
1 votes:
I think standing still, frozen with fear, shiatting and pissing yourself, all while screaming an impossibly high screech is a vastly underrated strategy.
2013-04-06 08:13:40 PM
1 votes:

Ennuipoet: I am no gun nut, but I was taught in the cop school that cover and concealment were the first rules of not being killed during a shootout.


"Concealment", aka how not to be seen.
2013-04-06 08:13:35 PM
1 votes:

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: If I'm ever caught in a crossfire, I'm going to act like a rabbit.  Most people like rabbits.


OK, so you're going to hop around, twitch your nose, and stare wide-eyed at the gunman; or you're going to pull out a carrot, stick your finger in the end of the barrel, and say "Eh, who ya shootin' at, doc?"

Either would work, but one would be way funnier to watch.
2013-04-06 08:09:39 PM
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: I've been informed by libs that cowering defenseless in a corner is the best action against someone shooting a gun at you.  Under no circumstances should you perform the action that has gotten all of the mass shooters to stop or commit suicide, arrive with a gun.

The more you know...


That lacks only the virtue of being true. I mean, listening to you talk is about as informative as listening to Diane Feinstein talk about guns. Well done.
2013-04-06 08:04:57 PM
1 votes:
I_Am_Weasel
I don't like any of those options. I need more.

Well, since fleeing, hiding and fighting were all covered in the headline, we're pretty much down to
"wait in plain sight for the shooter to pump you full of bullets, hoping to save the others by making the shooter run out of ammo"
2013-04-06 07:58:27 PM
1 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: I don't like any of those options.  I need more.


Call in a nuclear strike. That would be my option.
2013-04-06 06:49:08 PM
1 votes:

Krymson Tyde: No praying? According to Facebook this shiat wouldn't happen if we prayed more.


Depends on who you pray to.

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2013-04-06 06:38:43 PM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: What happens if the dude tries to shoot up a swimming pool inside of a gun free zone?  Can't fight back without your gun, running is strictly not allowed around the pool, and there's not really anywhere to hide at a pool


Ever tried to shoot something that's under water? Don't hold your breath.
2013-04-06 06:18:59 PM
1 votes:
What happens if the dude tries to shoot up a swimming pool inside of a gun free zone?  Can't fight back without your gun, running is strictly not allowed around the pool, and there's not really anywhere to hide at a pool
2013-04-06 05:49:50 PM
1 votes:

RedPhoenix122: Krymson Tyde: No praying? According to Facebook this shiat wouldn't happen if we prayed more.

Also armed everyone.


Kind of implied with the "fight back" part.

Bringing a knife to a gunfight is ill advised but considered an epic win when it works
2013-04-06 04:34:25 PM
1 votes:
I thought hiding then fighting back was murder 1 with malice aforethought.
2013-04-06 04:30:54 PM
1 votes:
No praying? According to Facebook this shiat wouldn't happen if we prayed more.
 
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