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2013-04-06 04:40:20 PM
Maybe if rent wasn't so damn expensive, people wouldn't be moving in together so quickly.

(rent_is_too_damn_high.jpg)
 
2013-04-06 04:41:54 PM
I live in cosine, it works out to be less evil.
 
2013-04-06 04:53:06 PM

themindiswatching: I live in cosine, it works out to be less evil.


Way to go off on a tangent.
 
2013-04-06 04:56:55 PM

RedPhoenix122: themindiswatching: I live in cosine, it works out to be less evil.

Way to go off on a tangent.


Kind of derivative, however.

/not sure if this joke really works
//that was the only math term I could think of quickly that fit in any way though
 
2013-04-06 05:29:00 PM
Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??

There are still benefits to getting married, she said.

Like tax breaks, especially after you've had a kid.
 
2013-04-06 05:47:59 PM

jake_lex: RedPhoenix122: themindiswatching: I live in cosine, it works out to be less evil.

Way to go off on a tangent.

Kind of derivative, however.

/not sure if this joke really works
//that was the only math term I could think of quickly that fit in any way though


Yeah, that's just irrational.
 
2013-04-06 06:15:09 PM
They wouldn't have agreed with Obama if the WH didn't apologize.
 
2013-04-06 06:17:52 PM

themindiswatching: I live in cosine, it works out to be less evil.


It's all about the phase shift, isn't it?
 
2013-04-06 06:21:44 PM
EVERYTHING is sinful to Christians if it isn't kowtowing to God 24/7 and giving everything you own to the church to ensure your soul gets to heaven.
 
2013-04-06 06:22:48 PM
I'm female. My wife and I lived together before marriage. Technically in the eyes of the federal government we aren't married.

Can't get married.

Forever living in hot lesbian sin.
 
2013-04-06 06:25:23 PM
fta But do these unions last? And do they lead to marriage?

Perhaps, if this van's a-rockin'
 
2013-04-06 06:27:27 PM

Lorelle: Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??


Well they would be married if the religious right hadn't managed to exterminate the concept of common law marriage throughout most of the US.
 
2013-04-06 06:28:05 PM

Sir-Marx-A-Lot: I'm female. My wife and I lived together before marriage. Technically in the eyes of the federal government we aren't married.

Can't get married.

Forever living in hot lesbian sin.


Go on...

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-06 06:36:08 PM

Gilligann: They wouldn't have agreed with Obama if the WH didn't apologize.


Well, Obama's wife is a single mother....
 
2013-04-06 06:36:51 PM
Damn you, subby. I expected a whistleblower's expose of how CNN really had plagiarized an article about co-habitation from 1975, complete with a scan of the clipping.

I want my counterfeit five dollar bill back.

/I know, it's not news...
 
2013-04-06 06:39:17 PM

Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??

There are still benefits to getting married, she said.

Like tax breaks, especially after you've had a kid.


You sound like an older man.

If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants) is a lifelong partner to raise kids with, share a home with, split the bills with, have sex with, watch TV with, go out with, laugh, fight, talk, and have fun with....what reason does ANYONE have to get married, except for a few arbitrary monetary benefits the government confers? Considering the relative ease of no-fault divorce, the family-court stance on palimony and long-term domestic relations, and the fact that paternity means the man pays child support regardless of his marital relationship with the mother--there's not much reason anymore to get married, except symbolically, don't you think?
 
2013-04-06 06:39:24 PM

Sir-Marx-A-Lot: I'm female. My wife and I lived together before marriage. Technically in the eyes of the federal government we aren't married.

Can't get married.

Forever living in hot lesbian sin.


You should've stuck a hit-counter in your profile just for this comment... ;)
 
2013-04-06 06:44:11 PM

Gyrfalcon: Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??

There are still benefits to getting married, she said.

Like tax breaks, especially after you've had a kid.

You sound like an older man.

If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants) is a lifelong partner to raise kids with, share a home with, split the bills with, have sex with, watch TV with, go out with, laugh, fight, talk, and have fun with....what reason does ANYONE have to get married, except for a few arbitrary monetary benefits the government confers? Considering the relative ease of no-fault divorce, the family-court stance on palimony and long-term domestic relations, and the fact that paternity means the man pays child support regardless of his marital relationship with the mother--there's not much reason anymore to get married, except symbolically, don't you think?


Precisely.  The only reason I support gay marriage is that it's a matter of equality under the law.  Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone gets married at all.
 
2013-04-06 06:44:39 PM

Gyrfalcon: If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants)


Excuse me, I've been told that all that she wants is another baby.
 
2013-04-06 06:46:31 PM

Krymson Tyde: jake_lex: RedPhoenix122: themindiswatching: I live in cosine, it works out to be less evil.

Way to go off on a tangent.

Kind of derivative, however.

/not sure if this joke really works
//that was the only math term I could think of quickly that fit in any way though

Yeah, that's just irrational.


Now you're just being hyperbolic.
 
2013-04-06 06:50:05 PM

Gyrfalcon: Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??

There are still benefits to getting married, she said.

Like tax breaks, especially after you've had a kid.

You sound like an older man.

If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants) is a lifelong partner to raise kids with, share a home with, split the bills with, have sex with, watch TV with, go out with, laugh, fight, talk, and have fun with....what reason does ANYONE have to get married, except for a few arbitrary monetary benefits the government confers? Considering the relative ease of no-fault divorce, the family-court stance on palimony and long-term domestic relations, and the fact that paternity means the man pays child support regardless of his marital relationship with the mother--there's not much reason anymore to get married, except symbolically, don't you think?


Inheritance and medical benefits can be substantial. Visitation? Guardianship? They're life-changin big deals. I subscribe to your newsletter, so I know you know this. But I've had beer, so I feel it's important to type things in the comments section of a website. I'm going outside now to blow bubbles. I may take a nap before soosh's show. Perhaps I'll grill a late lunch.
 
2013-04-06 06:53:37 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Gyrfalcon: If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants)

Excuse me, I've been told that all that she wants is another baby.


She's gone tomorrow boy
<snip>

So if you are in sight and the day is right
She's a hunter you're the fox
The gentle voice that talks to you
Won't talk forever
It's a night for passion
But the morning means goodbye
Beware of that is flashing in her eyes
She's going to get you
 
2013-04-06 07:20:53 PM

jake_lex: RedPhoenix122: themindiswatching: I live in cosine, it works out to be less evil.

Way to go off on a tangent.

Kind of derivative, however.

/not sure if this joke really works
//that was the only math term I could think of quickly that fit in any way though


You were half right: themindiswatching was derivative - Redphoenix112 was not.
 
2013-04-06 07:27:09 PM

Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??

There are still benefits to getting married, she said.

Like tax breaks, especially after you've had a kid.


But the single mother benefits outweigh the married tax benefits.
 
MFK
2013-04-06 07:53:02 PM
You know how much it costs to have a wedding? There is your reason right there.
 
2013-04-06 07:55:59 PM

Sir-Marx-A-Lot: I'm female. My wife and I lived together before marriage. Technically in the eyes of the federal government we aren't married.

Can't get married.

Forever living in hot lesbian sin.


Technically you can but not to each other.

Pics or it didn't happen.... hot sweaty pics.
 
2013-04-06 07:58:43 PM
i568.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-06 08:04:46 PM

MFK: You know how much it costs to have a wedding? There is your reason right there.


It cost my wife and I $35 and the judge gave us a bottle of cheap champagne.

It doesn't cost much of anything to get married. It costs a lot to make a self-important spectacle of yourself for no particularly good reason, however.
 
2013-04-06 08:06:33 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gyrfalcon: Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??

There are still benefits to getting married, she said.

Like tax breaks, especially after you've had a kid.

You sound like an older man.

If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants) is a lifelong partner to raise kids with, share a home with, split the bills with, have sex with, watch TV with, go out with, laugh, fight, talk, and have fun with....what reason does ANYONE have to get married, except for a few arbitrary monetary benefits the government confers? Considering the relative ease of no-fault divorce, the family-court stance on palimony and long-term domestic relations, and the fact that paternity means the man pays child support regardless of his marital relationship with the mother--there's not much reason anymore to get married, except symbolically, don't you think?

Precisely.  The only reason I support gay marriage is that it's a matter of equality under the law.  Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone gets married at all.


Lol what you dont belive in the power of love?
nah me either
 
2013-04-06 08:13:02 PM

LucklessWonder: cameroncrazy1984: Gyrfalcon: If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants)

Excuse me, I've been told that all that she wants is another baby.

She's gone tomorrow boy
<snip>

So if you are in sight and the day is right
She's a hunter you're the fox
The gentle voice that talks to you
Won't talk forever
It's a night for passion
But the morning means goodbye
Beware of that is flashing in her eyes
She's going to get you


Thank you for getting the joke. Mucho apreciado.
 
2013-04-06 08:21:07 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Gyrfalcon: If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants)

Excuse me, I've been told that all that she wants is another baby.


Well farking done, sir.  You win one oral sex donation.
 
2013-04-06 08:25:09 PM

Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??

There are still benefits to getting married, she said.

Like tax breaks, especially after you've had a kid.


Possibly because he already gave her an 18+ yr annuity and feels no need to give up more of his money?

Marriage only benefits women today.
 
2013-04-06 08:25:27 PM

skozlaw: MFK: You know how much it costs to have a wedding? There is your reason right there.

It cost my wife and I $35 and the judge gave us a bottle of cheap champagne.

It doesn't cost much of anything to get married. It costs a lot to make a self-important spectacle of yourself for no particularly good reason, however.


So the fact that the US economy is still so shiatty that the best option is often just shacking = "making a self-important spectacle of yourself?"

Not everyone has the luxury of the successful living you undoubtedly think is the norm.
 
2013-04-06 08:29:33 PM
shacking UP

/like anyone's reading this
 
2013-04-06 08:37:03 PM

Gyrfalcon: f "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants) is a lifelong partner to raise kids with, share a home with, split the bills with, have sex with, watch TV with, go out with, laugh, fight, talk, and have fun with....what reason does ANYONE have to get married, except for a few arbitrary monetary benefits the government confers? Considering the relative ease of no-fault divorce, the family-court stance on palimony and long-term domestic relations, and the fact that paternity means the man pays child support regardless of his marital relationship with the mother--there's not much reason anymore to get married, except symbolically, don't you think?


I think the only reason marriage is sticking around is because a bunch of older voters just suddenly realized that you don't have to do anything in life you don't want and are stunned that you don't HAVE to get married.  The rotten economy is only one part of it:  with equality of the sexes (to some extent, we aren't nearly there yet) comes honesty and conversation, and with that comes compromise.

Marriage isn't a foregone conclusion, especially when the institution itself seems to be falling apart.  There's a reason divorce is so easy to get, and it's because people have realized it's pretty rotten to tie yourself to another person as a social expectation.
 
2013-04-06 08:38:48 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Benevolent Misanthrope: Gyrfalcon: Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??

There are still benefits to getting married, she said.

Like tax breaks, especially after you've had a kid.

You sound like an older man.

If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants) is a lifelong partner to raise kids with, share a home with, split the bills with, have sex with, watch TV with, go out with, laugh, fight, talk, and have fun with....what reason does ANYONE have to get married, except for a few arbitrary monetary benefits the government confers? Considering the relative ease of no-fault divorce, the family-court stance on palimony and long-term domestic relations, and the fact that paternity means the man pays child support regardless of his marital relationship with the mother--there's not much reason anymore to get married, except symbolically, don't you think?

Precisely.  The only reason I support gay marriage is that it's a matter of equality under the law.  Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone gets married at all.

Lol what you dont belive in the power of love?
nah me either


I believe in the power of love.  I just don't believe I need to ask permission of the State and a child molester to exercise it.
 
2013-04-06 08:39:42 PM

Jesus Farking Christ: cameroncrazy1984: Gyrfalcon: If "all he wants" (or indeed all SHE wants)

Excuse me, I've been told that all that she wants is another baby.

Well farking done, sir.  You win one oral sex donation.


YES! I knew that my random intricate knowledge of that song would pay off eventually.
 
2013-04-06 08:51:40 PM

whidbey: skozlaw: MFK: You know how much it costs to have a wedding? There is your reason right there.

It cost my wife and I $35 and the judge gave us a bottle of cheap champagne.

It doesn't cost much of anything to get married. It costs a lot to make a self-important spectacle of yourself for no particularly good reason, however.

So the fact that the US economy is still so shiatty that the best option is often just shacking = "making a self-important spectacle of yourself?"

Not everyone has the luxury of the successful living you undoubtedly think is the norm.


Wow, you don't actually speak English, do you? You've done a remarkable job of faking it, but it's clear you don't know what the words mean.

Here's a hint: what you said has no relation to what you responded to.
 
2013-04-06 09:03:54 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Lol what you dont belive in the power of love?


It's a curious thing.
 
2013-04-06 09:26:55 PM

Krymson Tyde: sine


How do you know it's less evil? Did God give you a sine?

Or are you just using circular logic?
 
2013-04-06 09:29:06 PM

Mastervader: Krymson Tyde: sine

How do you know it's less evil? Did God give you a sine?

Or are you just using circular logic?


Well that didn't work out how I'd thought it would. I guess I didn't factor the internet's weirdness in?

/or maybe I divided by zero
 
2013-04-06 09:35:49 PM

Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her

without making a serious commitment like marriage??

I've always found this point of view to be amusing. This whole notion that marriage makes the relationship more serious than a relationship without marriage. My (common-law) wife and I just shake our head and smile condescendingly when people ask us when we're going to get serious. As if 12 years together and a child is somehow a "casual" relationship.

/Even funnier when people who have been divorced ask us when we're getting "serious".
 
2013-04-06 09:43:34 PM
I've lived with two women. Was engaged to both. The first ended before marriage... and ended badly. The second resulted in marriage after 3.5 years of cohabitation. That was 13 years, 2 dogs, 1 daughter, and four goldfish ago.

/still married. 2 dogs, 1 daughter, and 4 goldfish still alive and... from what I can gather... happy
 
2013-04-06 09:46:01 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: Marriage isn't a foregone conclusion, especially when the institution itself seems to be falling apart.  There's a reason divorce is so easy to get, and it's because people have realized it's pretty rotten to tie yourself to another person as a social expectation.


People didn't realize that marriage was a shiatty deal in the past few... thousand years?   I'm going to wager that they always knew it was rotten, but, hey, life is supposed to be rotten.  For women, especially.

See, that's the real reason that marriage as an institution is dying.  Women aren't chattel to be bought from their fathers any more.

But, unfortunately, it seems that they're still trained to want to "fall in love" and get married, just like Ken and Barbie.
 
2013-04-06 09:50:03 PM

MFK: You know how much it costs to have a wedding? There is your reason right there.


In my state you can show up, pay your nominal fee, affirm neither of you is a descendent of the other, nor aunt-nephew/uncle-niece, sign a thing saying you exchanged some kind of vows and are done.

No officiant required.

Pretty cheap.
 
2013-04-06 09:50:57 PM

Lorelle: Sarah Groom lives with her boyfriend of nearly nine years, and recently gave birth to a baby girl... They live together now, and she wants to get married, but it hasn't happened.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it possibly have anything to do with the fact that he's already getting everything he wants from her without making a serious commitment like marriage??


Marriage is a millionth of the commitment that having a kid with someone is.
 
2013-04-06 09:52:06 PM
Having just celebrated my 32nd wedding anniversary on April 1st, and having been with my husband for nearly 5 years before we got married (we had to wait until we were old enough to take care of ourselves), I think whether a couple gets married after they've lived together for a while is entirely a personal choice. However, I think if you are even remotely contemplating marriage, then you really *should* live together for a while before you do. Living together has such an impact - it can't be overstated.

Even though my husband and I went straight from our parents to our own home, without living alone or with roommates, and so we had not developed any "set in our ways" behaviors, it was still a huge change living together. Once we thought we were adjusted to it after four months, *then* we got married.

I think you should have sex and live together before you get married or else you may discover you've made a huge mistake. People who have the "why buy the cow when you get the milk for free" shouldn't get married or run a farm.
 
2013-04-06 09:54:31 PM

MFK: You know how much it costs to have a wedding? There is your reason right there.


It cost me less than $1000 to get married (including the rings). Then again I didn't have a fancy dress or guests or a reception....so....it all depends what you're willing to do without.
 
2013-04-06 10:02:25 PM

silvervial: I think you should have sex and live together before you get married or else you may discover you've made a huge mistake. People who have the "why buy the cow when you get the milk for free" shouldn't get married or run a farm.


Seconded. 45yo, 3 kids, married 12 years.
 
2013-04-06 10:05:08 PM

jack21221: whidbey: skozlaw: MFK: You know how much it costs to have a wedding? There is your reason right there.

It cost my wife and I $35 and the judge gave us a bottle of cheap champagne.

It doesn't cost much of anything to get married. It costs a lot to make a self-important spectacle of yourself for no particularly good reason, however.

So the fact that the US economy is still so shiatty that the best option is often just shacking = "making a self-important spectacle of yourself?"

Not everyone has the luxury of the successful living you undoubtedly think is the norm.

Wow, you don't actually speak English, do you? You've done a remarkable job of faking it, but it's clear you don't know what the words mean.

Here's a hint: what you said has no relation to what you responded to.


It sounded like an attack on shacking up. What did you expect me to do?
 
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