AbbeySomeone: hardinparamedic: Sometimes, the old ways are the best.Like, for example, having an anti-vaxxer parent learn first hand that death or recovery are not the only two outcomes of Vaccine-preventable diseases. Sometimes, they just live their lives with crippling neurological disabilities thanks to Measles Encephalitis.We, in the modern world, have become unacustomed (thankfully) to the scenes that plagued the United States in the 1920s and 30s, namely of Children's hospitals overflowing with people dying from diseases like Diptheria, Polio, and Whooping Cough. In a way, vaccines therefor have become a victim of their own success.Tell ya what - my daughter was raised with many alternative or hippie belief systems and environments. Most of the kids were unvaccinated and top of the chart healthy.If children are breast fed and raised in a healthy environment they don't have these issues."Herd" immunity is hysterical bullsh*t.
hardinparamedic: Sometimes, the old ways are the best.Like, for example, having an anti-vaxxer parent learn first hand that death or recovery are not the only two outcomes of Vaccine-preventable diseases. Sometimes, they just live their lives with crippling neurological disabilities thanks to Measles Encephalitis.We, in the modern world, have become unacustomed (thankfully) to the scenes that plagued the United States in the 1920s and 30s, namely of Children's hospitals overflowing with people dying from diseases like Diptheria, Polio, and Whooping Cough. In a way, vaccines therefor have become a victim of their own success.
DrewCurtisJr: ladyfortuna: I'm starting to think that when I meet new people I should ask them if they are vaccinated against the usual, and if they say no, I'll just tell them to call me when they are.How much confidence do you have in a "yes" answer? How many adults are aware of what vaccines they received as children and what boosters they might need?
AbbeySomeone: So, because you are defective you feel that you can blame others?
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The secret is to call the anti-vaccine peoples' bluff: Invent a vaccine for autism.
AbbeySomeone: So, because you are defective you feel that you can blame others? Wrong! Doesn't work that way.m I had 3 years of being absolutely crippled. I won't listen to any bs stories.
sweet-daddy-2: Thanks to all the responders to my question. Even the ones who seemed to miss my statement of believing in vaccinations. ladyfortuna was the most gracious. To the others: I have believed for many years in seatbelts, sober operators, lifejackets, and other safety measures.....including quick, deadly, armed response to those who walk on my lawn.
leadmetal: As opposed to the children and people who get crippling neurological disabilities or killed due to the vaccines?
leadmetal: Not to mention cancers (SV40, Polio vaccine) and other problems due manufacturing mistakes (usually seen in the third world causing reproductive issues)
leadmetal: I mention this because people use rare events to justify vaccination but disregard equally, more, or less rare events due to vaccination. People pretend vaccination is risk free and that's just plain wrong.
leadmetal: government took over liability of vaccines and uses its power to tell people harmed 'tough shiat')
leadmetal: Furthermore vaccines are seen as a tool to do social engineering. (Listen to Bill Gates on population control if you don't believe it)
leadmetal: The UK could have avoided much of this by allowing the individual vaccines on the market. But government hates choice. It's their way or else or their way or the highway. Some people chose the highway in this matter, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have chosen something different had there been free choice in the market.
leadmetal: Too bad we can't have a market which would push towards ever safer, less toxic, better made, and more effective vaccines and other methods of disease prevention.
sweet-daddy-2: There were no MMR vaccines when I was a kid. We hard barely gotten the polio vaccine when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade. Every one I grew up with suffered the measles, mumps, and chicken pox with no lasting effects.While I strongly agree with preventive vaccines, are the childhood diseases of my youth more dangerous today?Every one I grew up with...
brimed03: What happened to the surgeon who published the Lancet article? I don't think we should punish research errors, but it sounds like he was incredibly negligent or criminally fibbing. Considering the effect of his paper on public health, should he face public charges, which might in turn reduce his adherents.
Shedim: BumpInTheNight: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]The problem with that is that if the virus gets into someone who's unvaccinated and mutates into a form that can bypass the immunity given by the vaccine we're all going to get spotty and possibly dead.
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