Do Phil Collins and Genesis really count?

I mean, most bands would probably love to have a "break-up" involve some of their biggest selling hits, as Genesis had in the mid-80s after Collins released his solo album.

I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. until Peter Gabriel left.

/sorry, pet peeve

shifty lookin bleeder: I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece.

I just threw up in my mouth.

2xhelix: shifty lookin bleeder: I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece.

I just threw up in my mouth.

No shiat. Next he'll be saying he likes '80s Billy Joel.

I notice that The Ramones were not on the list, even after this masterpiece:

show me: No shiat. Next he'll be saying he likes '80s Billy Joel.

And Marillion's lyrics are way better with Hogarth than they were with Fish..

shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

10/10

BKITU: shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

10/10

I can't believe how many people just don't get it.

And where's Yes, Rick Wakeman and The Six Wives of Henry VIII?

They left out Gwen Steffani, and No Doubt.

AirForceVet: And where's Yes, Rick Wakeman and The Six Wives of Henry VIII?

I don't think that really qualifies.
They just replaced Wakeman with Patrick Moraz, and continued to record, and tour.

FirstNationalBastard: BKITU: shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

10/10

I can't believe how many people just don't get it.

Seriously.  Those people better be joking.

robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: BKITU: shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

10/10

I can't believe how many people just don't get it.

Seriously.  Those people better be joking.

If they're not joking, I'm done with them professionally.

Wow, this thread went to maximum trolling right away and got some nice nibbles. Great jorb. I nominate this for Troll of the Year.

FirstNationalBastard: robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: BKITU: shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

10/10

I can't believe how many people just don't get it.

Seriously.  Those people better be joking.

If they're not joking, I'm done with them professionally.

They're making me feel the need to return some videotapes.

robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: BKITU: shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

10/10

I can't believe how many people just don't get it.

Seriously.  Those people better be joking.

If they're not joking, I'm done with them professionally.

They're making me feel the need to return some videotapes.

HOW COULD SOMEONE NOT IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFY THAT PARAGRAPH

>:-|  y'all motherfarkers need jesus

I saw Genesis play in 2007, 31 years after Gabriel's successful solo album and 26 years after Collins successful solo album.

I think they're really through this time because Phil Collins has nerve damage and can't play without the sticks being tied to his hands. He could just sing but his ability to come up with drum riffs was part of their sound.   I don't know how you do that without being able to play any more.  He's no Beethoven.

I don't think that Peter Gabriel will ever agree to play with them again because, as Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks have said, he can't work in a group setting.

Jeez, doodz, some of uus haven't seen American Psycho yet, chill.

/I deserve the ridicule

gameshowhost: robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: BKITU: shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

10/10

I can't believe how many people just don't get it.

Seriously.  Those people better be joking.

If they're not joking, I'm done with them professionally.

They're making me feel the need to return some videotapes.

HOW COULD SOMEONE NOT IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFY THAT PARAGRAPH

>:-|  y'all motherfarkers need jesus

Clearly, no fans of Huey Lewis and the News either.

Of course, their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a much more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

Jenny Lewis

Who??

elvisaintdead: gameshowhost: robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: robsul82: FirstNationalBastard: BKITU: shifty lookin bleeder: I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and, uh, "Against All Odds". Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

10/10

I can't believe how many people just don't get it.

Seriously.  Those people better be joking.

If they're not joking, I'm done with them professionally.

They're making me feel the need to return some videotapes.

HOW COULD SOMEONE NOT IMMEDIATELY IDENTIFY THAT PARAGRAPH

>:-|  y'all motherfarkers need jesus

Clearly, no fans of Huey Lewis and the News either.

Of course, their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a much more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

In '87, Huey released this, Fore!, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to Be Square," a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself!"

Feels like they were somehow left out of the article:



Kim and Frank went on to make some seriously good music, but the Pixies were incredible.

I was really hoping Fergie's solo work would end her career AND Black Eyed Peas'.

TommyymmoT: They left out Gwen Steffani, and No Doubt.

Yeah, lets just pretend that they did, their new album is terrible if youre a No Doubt fan.

/its probably ok if youre a Gwen Steffani fan.

Cyno01: /its probably ok if youre a Gwen Steffani fan.

Gwen Steafni, ha! You know who was great? Whitney Houston. Did you know that Whitney Houston's debut LP, called simply "Whitney Houston" had 4 number one singles on it? Did you know that, Cyno01? It's hard to choose a favorite among so many great tracks, but "The Greatest Love of All" is one of the best, most powerful songs ever written about self-preservation, dignity. Its universal message crosses all boundaries and instills one with the hope that it's not too late to better ourselves. Since it's impossible in this world we live in to empathize with others, we can always empathize with ourselves. It's an important message, crucial really. And it's beautifully stated on the album.

Didn't Nirvana break up when Curt Cobain decided to go solo?

Uzzah: Cyno01: /its probably ok if youre a Gwen Steffani fan.

Gwen Steafni, ha! You know who was great? Whitney Houston. Did you know that Whitney Houston's debut LP, called simply "Whitney Houston" had 4 number one singles on it? Did you know that, Cyno01? It's hard to choose a favorite among so many great tracks, but "The Greatest Love of All" is one of the best, most powerful songs ever written about self-preservation, dignity. Its universal message crosses all boundaries and instills one with the hope that it's not too late to better ourselves. Since it's impossible in this world we live in to empathize with others, we can always empathize with ourselves. It's an important message, crucial really. And it's beautifully stated on the album.

Uh... ok?

Homegrown: Not that they were very great, but Paramore also broke up On account of their lead singer leaving

The two brothers left. The new lineup has an album coming out this year

FirstNationalBastard: I can't believe how many people just don't get it.

The score was me complimenting the ability to hook people on something that should have been obvious.