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2013-04-06 10:57:00 AM  
People expect organic pot? What next, free range pot?
 
2013-04-06 11:12:21 AM  
How it's this worse than the common practice used with tobacco and food crops?
 
2013-04-06 11:13:02 AM  

jeffowl: How it's this worse than the common practice used with tobacco and food crops?


*is
 
2013-04-06 11:13:14 AM  
Thus proving forever that cannabis is a dangerous drug and all its users are evil junkies and we need to double-down on the hugely successful War on Drugs. God bless America.
 
2013-04-06 11:14:38 AM  
It's called "Blue Moon Surprise" for a reason.
 
2013-04-06 11:16:26 AM  
Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?
 
2013-04-06 11:16:34 AM  
Order some pizzas and get an ice cream truck to swing by, they'll forget why they are there quick emough.
 
2013-04-06 11:17:20 AM  

iron_city_ap: Order some pizzas and get an ice cream truck to swing by, they'll forget why they are there quick emough.


Stupid fat fingers
 
2013-04-06 11:19:48 AM  
Lunger42: Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?
 
2013-04-06 11:20:38 AM  
What about 'generally recognized as safe' sprays like neem oil and safers soap? Are they banned as well or are we talking just about some of the nasty stuff like avid and merit?
 
2013-04-06 11:24:48 AM  

Lunger42: Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?


One of the major pests is bud mites.  Miticides are often pretty nasty in their own right and the compounds created when you burn them are not fully understood.  Since you're apply the pesticide to "consumable" parts of the plants, it's a real wild card what the effects, if any, may be in the long term.  It's also questionable if the growers are observing "days to harvest" regulations.
Other common pesticides (and yes, fungicides are "pesticides") are applied to control root diseases, most commonly Phytophthora and Pythium (Which are controlled by fungicide even though, yes, they are actually fungal-like algae).  These pesticides are typically applied as a soil drench and don't translocate through the plants and shouldn't be that big of a deal but could still cause people some concern.
Foliar diseases that require applying pesticides to above ground portions of the plant are relatively rare.
 
2013-04-06 11:33:42 AM  
FTFA: use of pesticides in their growing facilities

Spider mites are a biatch.  neem oild does pretty well.  Also, try raising the humidity... or lowering it... I can't remember...
 
2013-04-06 11:34:15 AM  

FARK rebel soldier: Lunger42: Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?


i.qkme.me
 
2013-04-06 11:34:38 AM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Lunger42: Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?

One of the major pests is bud mites.  Miticides are often pretty nasty in their own right and the compounds created when you burn them are not fully understood.  Since you're apply the pesticide to "consumable" parts of the plants, it's a real wild card what the effects, if any, may be in the long term.  It's also questionable if the growers are observing "days to harvest" regulations.
Other common pesticides (and yes, fungicides are "pesticides") are applied to control root diseases, most commonly Phytophthora and Pythium (Which are controlled by fungicide even though, yes, they are actually fungal-like algae).  These pesticides are typically applied as a soil drench and don't translocate through the plants and shouldn't be that big of a deal but could still cause people some concern.
Foliar diseases that require applying pesticides to above ground portions of the plant are relatively rare.


You missed the point.  I too am not a pot smoker and I still don't see a big deal with using pesticides on the stuff.  They could use DDT and I wouldn't care.
 
GBB
2013-04-06 11:35:10 AM  
What?  You mean that if you leave a business or an industry to regulate itself that it will do what's best in its interest and not the interests of its customers??
 
2013-04-06 11:36:15 AM  

lack of warmth: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Lunger42: Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?

One of the major pests is bud mites.  Miticides are often pretty nasty in their own right and the compounds created when you burn them are not fully understood.  Since you're apply the pesticide to "consumable" parts of the plants, it's a real wild card what the effects, if any, may be in the long term.  It's also questionable if the growers are observing "days to harvest" regulations.
Other common pesticides (and yes, fungicides are "pesticides") are applied to control root diseases, most commonly Phytophthora and Pythium (Which are controlled by fungicide even though, yes, they are actually fungal-like algae).  These pesticides are typically applied as a soil drench and don't translocate through the plants and shouldn't be that big of a deal but could still cause people some concern.
Foliar diseases that require applying pesticides to above ground portions of the plant are relatively rare.

You missed the point.  I too am not a pot smoker and I still don't see a big deal with using pesticides on the stuff.  They could use DDT and I wouldn't care.


Ah, yes.  I didn't notice your user name.
 
2013-04-06 11:40:50 AM  
Maybe they're afraid that if they smoke the pest control weed that the so called "patients" will wind up with real verifiable ailments.
 
2013-04-06 11:41:15 AM  

Lunger42: Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?


Probably inhaling pesticides?
 
2013-04-06 11:42:09 AM  
Spider mites are indeed a biatch.
 
2013-04-06 11:42:14 AM  
if you don't buy a stores products they don't stay in business.

/ your only real vote is the dollar vote
 
2013-04-06 11:51:12 AM  
Grow your own.
 
2013-04-06 11:55:04 AM  
as a pot smoker, i'm getting sick of this snobby hipster weedhead movement. 5 years ago they were smoking weed from Canada that could have had anything done to it, now they're holding rallies over some pesticides. pesticides are used on stuff we eat, for god's sake. pussies.
 
2013-04-06 11:56:57 AM  
Unbelievable.  These same druggies are all crying about the existence of laws that make the use of marijuana illegal in order to protect them from its negative health impacts.  Now they are absolutely shocked that a bunch of illegal drug dealers would use pesticide and are now crying for more laws controlling how their illegal drugs are grown.

Hypocrites.  Which do you want? More laws or fewer laws? Or is the truth really that you don't have any particular logic to your arguments and are simply dope fiends who will do/say anything to get your fix?
 
2013-04-06 12:08:41 PM  
"When they legalize marijuana, everything will be perfect forever! Everyone will have all the free weed we could possibly smoke in a lifetime!... What do you mean, 'welcome to reality?' Fark you, I'm a member of the reality-based community, I know more about reality than some uptight racist godjob ever possibly could! Wait, why are the people I'm giving marijuana to getting so angry? WTF, I'm giving you free marijuana! HELP HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED! WHY IS THIS HAPPENING I DON'T EVEN"

/and another one gone, another one gone, another one bites the dust
//hey, it's gonna get you too, another one bites the dust
 
2013-04-06 12:08:51 PM  
 
2013-04-06 12:14:27 PM  
Nature's chemical-free pesticide.

slowbuddy.com
 
2013-04-06 12:16:49 PM  
Back in my day you were lucky to just get a bag of weed that wasn't laced with angle dust or some other crap.. But man when you got those bags woo!
 
2013-04-06 12:24:46 PM  
If they think dispensaries using pesticides is bad, they should see the dispensaries here in Southern California which violate Federal Law by blatantly advertising 'female budtenders only' in their job postings.
 
2013-04-06 12:29:04 PM  

lack of warmth: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Lunger42: Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?

One of the major pests is bud mites.  Miticides are often pretty nasty in their own right and the compounds created when you burn them are not fully understood.  Since you're apply the pesticide to "consumable" parts of the plants, it's a real wild card what the effects, if any, may be in the long term.  It's also questionable if the growers are observing "days to harvest" regulations.
Other common pesticides (and yes, fungicides are "pesticides") are applied to control root diseases, most commonly Phytophthora and Pythium (Which are controlled by fungicide even though, yes, they are actually fungal-like algae).  These pesticides are typically applied as a soil drench and don't translocate through the plants and shouldn't be that big of a deal but could still cause people some concern.
Foliar diseases that require applying pesticides to above ground portions of the plant are relatively rare.

You missed the point.  I too am not a pot smoker and I still don't see a big deal with using pesticides on the stuff.  They could use DDT and I wouldn't care.


Perhaps if you were a chemo patient, someone with skin sensitivity to poisons, or someone with MS or Lupus you might care.  Some people use it as medicine, and not recreational.
 
2013-04-06 12:31:26 PM  

Dragonflew: Nature's chemical-free pesticide.

[slowbuddy.com image 300x300]


This.  The grow house I worked in used ladybugs and praying mantis.
 
2013-04-06 12:37:11 PM  
Everyone laughed at me when I washed and re-dried my stuff.  How can people not live in the modern era and not expect everything they buy to be covered in poison?  Wash your shirts before you wear them the first time.  Wash your produce before you eat it.  Wash your toaster before you make toast with it.  Everything either has potential toxic dust from the manufacturing process or is coated in preservative or pesticide chemicals to keep it safe or smelling fresh or whatever.  And don't think your "organic" produce doesn't have "organic" pesticides on it either!

/the more you know.jpg
 
2013-04-06 12:43:40 PM  

another cultural observer: FARK rebel soldier: Lunger42: Not a pot smoker, so what's the big deal with using pesticides on the stuff?

[i.qkme.me image 552x748]


"Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? The bums will always lose!"
 
2013-04-06 12:44:32 PM  

Great Justice: Everyone laughed at me when I washed and re-dried my stuff.


The children are right to laugh at you, Ralph.
 
2013-04-06 12:56:35 PM  

nburghmatt: as a pot smoker, i'm getting sick of this snobby hipster weedhead movement. 5 years ago they were smoking weed from Canada that could have had anything done to it, now they're holding rallies over some pesticides. pesticides are used on stuff we eat, for god's sake. pussies.


Don't be disparaging the Canadian weed, man. The friends I have who grow don't use chemical pesticides. They grow using the old fashioned in dirt, using manure for fertiliser way.
 
2013-04-06 01:04:38 PM  

Great Justice: Everyone laughed at me when I washed and re-dried my stuff.  How can people not live in the modern era and not expect everything they buy to be covered in poison?  Wash your shirts before you wear them the first time.  Wash your produce before you eat it.  Wash your toaster before you make toast with it.  Everything either has potential toxic dust from the manufacturing process or is coated in preservative or pesticide chemicals to keep it safe or smelling fresh or whatever.  And don't think your "organic" produce doesn't have "organic" pesticides on it either!

/the more you know.jpg


Dude....  Kiddies don't try this at home. Water will not dissolve the toxic chemicals sticking to the naturally occurring resins and oils on the buds. All washing your pot will do is lessen the quality and make you look damn silly.
 
2013-04-06 01:06:18 PM  

dopekitty74: nburghmatt: as a pot smoker, i'm getting sick of this snobby hipster weedhead movement. 5 years ago they were smoking weed from Canada that could have had anything done to it, now they're holding rallies over some pesticides. pesticides are used on stuff we eat, for god's sake. pussies.

Don't be disparaging the Canadian weed, man. The friends I have who grow don't use chemical pesticides. They grow using the old fashioned in dirt, using manure for fertiliser way.


Only the finest of grass is grown up north. And in most cases its done naturally. Sorry but you yankees got a ways to go before you can try a pepsi challenge with some good BC bud.

hell even homegrown ontario weeds better than any american grass Ive tried.
 
2013-04-06 01:07:11 PM  

dopekitty74: nburghmatt: as a pot smoker, i'm getting sick of this snobby hipster weedhead movement. 5 years ago they were smoking weed from Canada that could have had anything done to it, now they're holding rallies over some pesticides. pesticides are used on stuff we eat, for god's sake. pussies.

Don't be disparaging the Canadian weed, man. The friends I have who grow don't use chemical pesticides. They grow using the old fashioned in dirt, using manure for fertiliser way.


i've visited and it is fantastic weed. i was just saying to go from getting weed on the black market from another country to biatching about mild pesticides is kinda square.
 
2013-04-06 01:08:27 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Sorry but you yankees got a ways to go before you can try a pepsi challenge with some good BC bud.


Sorry but you Canadians have yet to surpass my potency, which is why the company that makes Sativex uses my lighting and nutrient regimen.

Pepsi challenge? Son, I'm in the wine class.
 
2013-04-06 01:09:29 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: dopekitty74: nburghmatt: as a pot smoker, i'm getting sick of this snobby hipster weedhead movement. 5 years ago they were smoking weed from Canada that could have had anything done to it, now they're holding rallies over some pesticides. pesticides are used on stuff we eat, for god's sake. pussies.

Don't be disparaging the Canadian weed, man. The friends I have who grow don't use chemical pesticides. They grow using the old fashioned in dirt, using manure for fertiliser way.

Only the finest of grass is grown up north. And in most cases its done naturally. Sorry but you yankees got a ways to go before you can try a pepsi challenge with some good BC bud.

hell even homegrown ontario weeds better than any american grass Ive tried.


i'd say Canadian weed is better on the average, but our medical can stand up to any reefer in the world.
 
2013-04-06 01:14:25 PM  

Great Justice: Everyone laughed at me when I washed and re-dried my stuff.  How can people not live in the modern era and not expect everything they buy to be covered in poison?  Wash your shirts before you wear them the first time.  Wash your produce before you eat it.  Wash your toaster before you make toast with it.  Everything either has potential toxic dust from the manufacturing process or is coated in preservative or pesticide chemicals to keep it safe or smelling fresh or whatever.  And don't think your "organic" produce doesn't have "organic" pesticides on it either!

/the more you know.jpg


LOL!  "Washed and re-dried".  Comedy GOLD.
 
2013-04-06 01:15:14 PM  

santadog: Great Justice: Everyone laughed at me when I washed and re-dried my stuff.  How can people not live in the modern era and not expect everything they buy to be covered in poison?  Wash your shirts before you wear them the first time.  Wash your produce before you eat it.  Wash your toaster before you make toast with it.  Everything either has potential toxic dust from the manufacturing process or is coated in preservative or pesticide chemicals to keep it safe or smelling fresh or whatever.  And don't think your "organic" produce doesn't have "organic" pesticides on it either!

/the more you know.jpg

LOL!  "Washed and re-dried".  Comedy GOLD.


I guess you've never heard of water curing.
 
2013-04-06 01:20:56 PM  

khyberkitsune: santadog: Great Justice: Everyone laughed at me when I washed and re-dried my stuff.  How can people not live in the modern era and not expect everything they buy to be covered in poison?  Wash your shirts before you wear them the first time.  Wash your produce before you eat it.  Wash your toaster before you make toast with it.  Everything either has potential toxic dust from the manufacturing process or is coated in preservative or pesticide chemicals to keep it safe or smelling fresh or whatever.  And don't think your "organic" produce doesn't have "organic" pesticides on it either!

/the more you know.jpg

LOL!  "Washed and re-dried".  Comedy GOLD.

I guess you've never heard of water curing.


My buds are so frosty, I don't even like to handle it to put it in a bowl.  I would never dream of handling it that much.   I can hear my grower gasping right now.  I've read you have to change the water every day for 7 days.  No thank you.
 
2013-04-06 01:22:28 PM  

khyberkitsune: I guess you've never heard of water curing.


He was not talking about curing, he was talking about washing bud that he had purchased.
 
2013-04-06 01:25:55 PM  

Dragonflew: khyberkitsune: I guess you've never heard of water curing.

He was not talking about curing, he was talking about washing bud that he had purchased.


Again, water curing is the proper washing method.

THC isn't exactly water-soluble, you know. Very very low saturation point, in fact.
 
2013-04-06 01:26:40 PM  

santadog: My buds are so frosty, I don't even like to handle it to put it in a bowl. I would never dream of handling it that much.


You're missing out on collecting some of the best. hash. EVER.
 
2013-04-06 01:30:16 PM  

quickdraw: Great Justice: Everyone laughed at me when I washed and re-dried my stuff.  How can people not live in the modern era and not expect everything they buy to be covered in poison?  Wash your shirts before you wear them the first time.  Wash your produce before you eat it.  Wash your toaster before you make toast with it.  Everything either has potential toxic dust from the manufacturing process or is coated in preservative or pesticide chemicals to keep it safe or smelling fresh or whatever.  And don't think your "organic" produce doesn't have "organic" pesticides on it either!

/the more you know.jpg

Dude....  Kiddies don't try this at home. Water will not dissolve the toxic chemicals sticking to the naturally occurring resins and oils on the buds. All washing your pot will do is lessen the quality and make you look damn silly.


Just to clarify, I didn't wash it with soap and water under the tap, I pulverized it and soaked it in heated distilled water for 24 hours and then filtered it.  It removes a lot of something, and still the important parts are still definitely there afterward.  I use this process for cooking, and it helps avoid imparting the smell and taste along with the active ingredients.

Yes, the process is slightly wasteful and you lose a tiny portion of the product.  You still gain far more active ingredient by cooking instead of smoking anyway.

/is this really so strange?  Don't some folks make hash this way?
 
2013-04-06 01:33:05 PM  

Great Justice: Just to clarify, I didn't wash it with soap and water under the tap


Oh, good.
 
2013-04-06 01:33:40 PM  

Great Justice: Don't some folks make hash this way?


Yessir. I just took a picture for this thread, too.

i.imgur.com

That's about a quarter pound, in total. All from water-curing and filtration through bubble bags for grading.

The dispensary has the buds. They sit on the top-shelf.
 
2013-04-06 01:57:53 PM  

simplicimus: People expect organic pot? What next, free range pot?


Fair trade pot.  Stop using child trimmers.
 
2013-04-06 02:03:31 PM  

GBB: What?  You mean that if you leave a business or an industry to regulate itself that it will do what's best in its interest and not the interests of its customers??


Yep.  In this case, the grower fined itself, chose to stop using pesticides, and invited 2500 patients to protest it.
 
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