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2013-04-06 07:35:25 AM
NOT VCRS!!!!!1111
 
2013-04-06 07:58:36 AM
I can't wait to see what kind of helper animal blind people are going to get for these things.  I hope it's a praying mantis with tiny gloves.
 
2013-04-06 08:14:32 AM
You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.
 
2013-04-06 09:27:28 AM

Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.


Wrong.
 
2013-04-06 09:52:21 AM

Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.


If your work involves a significant amount of writing, tablets don't cut it. You could connect a keyboard to a tablet, but that's much more awkward than a laptop.
 
2013-04-06 10:48:58 AM

someonelse: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.

If your work involves a significant amount of writing, tablets don't cut it. You could connect a keyboard to a tablet, but that's much more awkward than a laptop.


This seems to be following the same pattern as when laptops became popular. At first typing on a laptop didn't seem right. But as the keyboards got better and/or people got more used to it it seems less of an issue now.
 
2013-04-06 10:49:27 AM

Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.


Unless your job is "Internet Porn Quality Control Specialist."
 
2013-04-06 10:53:09 AM
Rule #1: Nothing outsells your mom. She's a machine.
 
2013-04-06 10:56:58 AM
 
2013-04-06 11:01:27 AM
I still don't see the point. Particularly the iPad mini. Then again my work involves bulky data entry software and my iPhone and ps3 handle all my entertainment
 
2013-04-06 11:03:39 AM

BullBearMS: staplermofo: I can't wait to see what kind of helper animal blind people are going to get for these things.  I hope it's a praying mantis with tiny gloves.

I know you're just snarking, but check this out...

The other night a very amazing thing happened. I downloaded an app called Color Identifier. It uses the iPhone's camera, and speaks names of colors.

I have never experienced this before in my life. I can see some light and color, but just in blurs, and objects don't really have a color, just light sources. When I first tried it at three o'clock in the morning, I couldn't figure out why it just reported black. Then I remembered that you actually need light to see, and it probably couldn't see much at night.

The next day, I went outside. I looked at the sky. I heard colors such as "Horizon," "Outer Space," and many shades of blue and gray. I used color cues to find my pumpkin plants, by looking for the green among the brown and stone. I spent ten minutes looking at my pumpkin plants, with their leaves of green and lemon-ginger. I then roamed my yard, and saw a blue flower. I then found the brown shed, and returned to the gray house. My mind felt blown. I watched the sun set, listening to the colors change as the sky darkened. The next night, I had a conversation with Mom about how the sky looked bluer tonight. Since I can see some light and color, I think hearing the color names can help nudge my perception, and enhance my visual experience. Amazing!


That's beautiful actually
 
2013-04-06 11:32:29 AM

hitmanric: someonelse: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.

If your work involves a significant amount of writing, tablets don't cut it. You could connect a keyboard to a tablet, but that's much more awkward than a laptop.

This seems to be following the same pattern as when laptops became popular. At first typing on a laptop didn't seem right. But as the keyboards got better and/or people got more used to it it seems less of an issue now.


Point taken. But my aged brain can't imagine writing something like a full-length article on a tablet.
 
2013-04-06 11:48:26 AM

Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.


Depends on what you mean by "work".

For a certain kind of worker ( I call them "worthless human beings"), their entire job consists of responding to e-mails and editing PowerPoints and posting to Facebook/Twitter.

For that kind of "work", a tablet would be pretty good. For people that actually do stuff? Not so much. The programmers and graphic designers of the world aren't going to be moving to tablets anytime soon.

/here come the "But I am a professional blogger and I use a tablet exclusively!" idiots
 
2013-04-06 12:01:30 PM

someonelse: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.

If your work involves a significant amount of writing, tablets don't cut it. You could connect a keyboard to a tablet, but that's much more awkward than a laptop.


Give it a few years. Tablets are still really, really new, you know. There don't seem to be any insurmountable technical challenges preventing them from being effective for word processing and other business tasks. Also, as Mugato hinted, for a lot of people computers really are just toys.

I also find this interesting juxtaposed with the story about Microsoft becoming obsolete in 4 years.
 
2013-04-06 12:35:52 PM
Tablets may outsell desktops? So what? So do socks, and like sock, tablets serve a different purpose than desktops.

In my office, many of the people travel a lot. They use laptops, and connect them to regular sized keyboards and monitors when in the office, but have their information when traveling. These people might eventually be able to replace their laptops with tablets, when tablets get high enough memory, speed and battery life. My job is to build, populate, and administer a database. Since I often need 5 or 6 documents open at the same time, I have two 27-inch monitors. There is no way that this work could be done on a tablet. The screen is just not big enough. In addition, since there is personally identifiable information, the portability of a tablet makes it a no-go for security reasons as well.

Tablets will never replace desktops for the same reason cars will never replace Semi-trucks. They serve different purposes. Cars may outsell semis, but are not capable of doing the heavy hauling that semis do.
 
2013-04-06 12:41:41 PM

someonelse: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.

If your work involves a significant amount of writing, tablets don't cut it. You could connect a keyboard to a tablet, but that's much more awkward than a laptop.


Since buying him an iPad - my writer bf hasn't touched his laptop.  And I know more than a few writers who have ditched their laptop or desktop in favor of a tablet.  And if I have to sit down and write something - I do it exclusively on a tablet.  In other words - what works for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.

/imagine that
 
2013-04-06 12:48:01 PM
I'm a programmer and I can see it happening. All that's missing is for software to catch up. The average end user doesn't really need the power of a desktop or laptop machine unless they're a gamer. Most people want and need very simple and easy-to-use applications that can do things like web, email, and social networking crap. It's going to happen, I think it's just a matter of time, technology, and software.
 
2013-04-06 01:39:13 PM
And it's all because Apple invented the tablet, just like they invented computers, the Internet, portable music players, the telephone, movies...

Just give them a little while longer and they'll invent the game console, too.
 
2013-04-06 01:51:23 PM
You can take my Beta Max VCR when you pry the remote out of my cold dead couch crack.
 
2013-04-06 02:03:39 PM

realmolo: The programmers and graphic designers of the world aren't going to be moving to tablets anytime soon.

/here come the "But I am a professional blogger and I use a tablet exclusively!" idiots


Nor will anyone involved in finance, accounting, research, etc.  Sure, a tablet would be nice for taking notes.  But if you are going to be at your desk anyway and need computing power, a tablet is an unnecessary frivolity.  Especially when my smartphone can do anything I'd want a tablet for (at the moment, at least).  And "tablets will take over the world!!1!" fail to understand one thing: cost.  A desktop powerful enough to run the applications necessary for many businesses is cheap as dirt, easy/inexpensive to repair, and alot harder to break/steal.  Laptops have penetrated the market for their portability with "close enough" power.  Tablets are far away from that point, and there are some signs of 'tech fatigue'.

Personally, I have a desktop at work.  At home, I have a desktop (mostly for gaming).  I have a laptop for sitting on the couch/portability.  I have a smartphone which is replacing the laptop in portability.  What do I gain from a tablet?  I have more computing options than I have time for already.
 
2013-04-06 02:15:01 PM
Ever try and code an app on a tablet?
 
2013-04-06 02:18:35 PM

Droog8912: Personally, I have a desktop at work. At home, I have a desktop (mostly for gaming). I have a laptop for sitting on the couch/portability. I have a smartphone which is replacing the laptop in portability. What do I gain from a tablet? I have more computing options than I have time for already.


The people who pontificate for a living say the future looks more like, "my household has one shared desktop computer for doing work that requires precision input devices. We have tablets for everything else."
 
2013-04-06 02:30:23 PM
Typing this on a tablet, so I am getting a kick out of this....

I have both a tablet and a laptop.  If I must want to watch movies in bed or surf the Internet on the toilet, the tablet is great.  Small, light weight, one piece.  For gaming, any business application, writing more than a few paragraphs, I go with a laptop.

Tablets are not going to kill off the desktop or laptop.  Yes, some people will replace their existing laptop and desktop with a tablet, but those are the people who say "I don't care about thumb drives and a terabyte hard drive, I just want to Facebook and surf the Internet."  For those who want to do more, we are going to still need desktops and laptops.

Last month I wrote a fifty plus page story, I had to use a real keyboard for it.  The tablet keyboard under the tablet glass is impossible to use for touch typing.
 
2013-04-06 02:32:36 PM

nmemkha: Ever try and code an app on a tablet?


I heard a rumour that win8 was actually made before 7 as a punishment for under performing MS employees.
 
2013-04-06 02:48:42 PM
Sure you can learn to type on a tablet for work but why? I just don't see the advantages of a tablet over a desktop or laptop. Lap top obviously because it's portable.
 
2013-04-06 02:49:03 PM

Droog8912: Nor will anyone involved in finance, accounting, research, etc.  Sure, a tablet would be nice for taking notes.  But if you are going to be at your desk anyway and need computing power, a tablet is an unnecessary frivolity.  Especially when my smartphone can do anything I'd want a tablet for (at the moment, at least).  And "tablets will take over the world!!1!" fail to understand one thing: cost.  A desktop powerful enough to run the applications necessary for many businesses is cheap as dirt, easy/inexpensive to repair, and alot harder to break/steal.  Laptops have penetrated the market for their portability with "close enough" power.  Tablets are far away from that point, and there are some signs of 'tech fatigue'.


The thing with laptops is the portability. I can go and see a client, take notes, show them a website. Not as upgradable as my PC, not as good a screen, costs more etc, but it has benefits.

And my touchscreen phone, I can have on me when I go to a theme park with the family. It is in my pocket on a log flume, it's in my pocket as I have a picnic, and I can use it to find petrol, check traffic on the way home, somewhere to eat etc.

The problem I have with tablets is that it has the same portability as a laptop, but crippled. Anywhere you can use a tablet, you can use a laptop. The only benefit is weight, and really that's like a kilo for an ultrabook.
 
2013-04-06 02:59:55 PM
Makes sense, but not for the simple reasons people think.

When it comes to smartphones and tablets, people upgrade MUCH more often.  Most people keep their computers and laptops until they break.  5+ years or so, many times much longer.  Especially the typical home user that just needs to get email and browse the web.
 
2013-04-06 03:36:17 PM
Desktops and laptops are for producing stuff.  Tablets and phones are for consuming it.  Any healthy market has more consumers than producers.  And more stores than factories.


So...um...yeah.
 
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2013-04-06 04:27:04 PM

nmemkha: Ever try and code an app on a tablet?


rack.3.mshcdn.com

Not yet.  But I'm sure I will at some point.
 
2013-04-06 04:45:35 PM
Doing work on a computer isn't quite the same as using notepad on a tablet, but sure, its the same thing for you I guess.

/not a writer
/needs a computer not a table to work
 
2013-04-06 05:17:18 PM
The real futurist in me wonders how long we'll need  screens.
 
2013-04-06 05:20:54 PM
If you can make a 10'  touchscreen tablet with detachable tangible keyboard, a.k.a. a touch-screen netbook then you've basically covered every most people will need when it comes to computing

Phones already can do everything a tablet can do on top of making cellphone calls but they're too small.
 
2013-04-06 05:21:49 PM
everything*
 
2013-04-06 05:23:38 PM
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"Oh, you have to use your hands to hold your computer? How quaint. Prepare to be assimilated."
 
2013-04-06 05:33:06 PM

MrEricSir: [img17.imageshack.us image 630x440]

"Oh, you have to use your hands to hold your computer? How quaint. Prepare to be assimilated."


Google Glass won't sell well, because it doesn't have a little grey piece of fruit on it.
 
2013-04-06 05:34:52 PM

hamdinger: MrEricSir: [img17.imageshack.us image 630x440]

"Oh, you have to use your hands to hold your computer? How quaint. Prepare to be assimilated."

Google Glass won't sell well, because it doesn't have a little grey piece of fruit on it.


I thought his turtlenecks were always black not grey.
 
2013-04-06 05:46:19 PM

hamdinger: MrEricSir: [img17.imageshack.us image 630x440]

"Oh, you have to use your hands to hold your computer? How quaint. Prepare to be assimilated."

Google Glass won't sell well, because it doesn't have a little grey piece of fruit on it.


"Sell"? Google is an advertising company. Google Glass isn't a product so much as a way for them to beam ads directly into your eye.
 
2013-04-06 06:07:19 PM

someonelse: hitmanric: someonelse: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.

If your work involves a significant amount of writing, tablets don't cut it. You could connect a keyboard to a tablet, but that's much more awkward than a laptop.

This seems to be following the same pattern as when laptops became popular. At first typing on a laptop didn't seem right. But as the keyboards got better and/or people got more used to it it seems less of an issue now.

Point taken. But my aged brain can't imagine writing something like a full-length article on a tablet.


My aged brain still doesn't like typing anything longer than a google query on a laptop and texting takes forever on my phone. Ya I won't be getting a tablet anytime soon.
 
2013-04-06 06:09:53 PM
hitmanric : This seems to be following the same pattern as when laptops became popular. At first typing on a laptop didn't seem right.

And it still doesn't.

Typing speed on a desktop clacky keyboard ~120 wpm
Typing speed on my personal laptop, ~80 wpm (not my laptop, but same contoured style keys)

techreport.com

Typing speed on my netbook ~60 wpm (as long as there aren't a bunch of symbols and shiat which are a pain in the butt to enter due to requiring more keypresses)
Typing speed on the shiatty HP laptops at work (with flat style keyboards) ~50 wpm ... (not my laptop, but same flat POS keys).

asset1.cbsistatic.com

Typing speed on my 7" hacked nook color, ~40 wpm.
 
2013-04-06 08:05:22 PM

thecpt: I still don't see the point. Particularly the iPad mini. Then again my work involves bulky data entry software and my iPhone and ps3 handle all my entertainment


I have one. It fits in my pocket and makes phone calls.
 
2013-04-06 09:12:26 PM
I sometimes have 7 or 8 remote desktop sessions into servers open,along with several Excel and Word documents, my email, and various proprietary software apps at once.  Sometimes I wish I had more than two monitors.  I doubt tablets are going to be replacing my current setup anytime in the near future.
 
2013-04-06 09:49:59 PM
Tablets may take a chunk out of the casual internet surfing market, but they wont be replacing the PC anytime soon. However I would like to see the desktop market move to a smaller form, these large clunky towers are really ridiculous in a market where everything else is getting smaller. There's really no reason a desktop PC should be much bigger than a gaming console.
 
2013-04-06 10:17:29 PM

lordargent: Typing speed on my 7" hacked nook color, ~40 wpm.


Better than me, I can't type for shiat.
 
2013-04-06 10:33:56 PM
fortheloveofgod : I sometimes have 7 or 8 remote desktop sessions into servers open,along with several Excel and Word documents, my email, and various proprietary software apps at once. Sometimes I wish I had more than two monitors. I doubt tablets are going to be replacing my current setup anytime in the near future.

When I go on vacations, I rip television shows from my TIVO and movies from DVDs so that I have something to watch during plane trips or while waiting.

This is what that looks like on my dual monitor setup.

http://lordargent.com/temp/tech/multitasking.png

// the funny thing is, I'm ripping and compressing these videos so that they can fit onto my tablet.
 
2013-04-06 11:05:05 PM
Tablets may sell more than PCs, but they will never replace PCs.

If you want something to fart around with while sucking down a latte, yeah, tablets it is.

Want to do something more serious than just browsing? Still gonna need your PC for that.
 
2013-04-06 11:08:40 PM

someonelse: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.

If your work involves a significant amount of writing, tablets don't cut it. You could connect a keyboard to a tablet, but that's much more awkward than a laptop.


realmolo: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.

Depends on what you mean by "work".

For a certain kind of worker ( I call them "worthless human beings"), their entire job consists of responding to e-mails and editing PowerPoints and posting to Facebook/Twitter.

For that kind of "work", a tablet would be pretty good. For people that actually do stuff? Not so much. The programmers and graphic designers of the world aren't going to be moving to tablets anytime soon.

/here come the "But I am a professional blogger and I use a tablet exclusively!" idiots


As a professional blogger who uses tablets exclusively, I am getting a kick out of your reply.

But seriously, I agree that tablets are far from ideal for content creation.  But for most light-productivity, they're quite convenient.
 
2013-04-06 11:32:09 PM

hitmanric: someonelse: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.

Wrong.

If your work involves a significant amount of writing, tablets don't cut it. You could connect a keyboard to a tablet, but that's much more awkward than a laptop.

This seems to be following the same pattern as when laptops became popular. At first typing on a laptop didn't seem right. But as the keyboards got better and/or people got more used to it it seems less of an issue now.


I've been exclusively laptop for several years, and still find that I have a much higher error rate on the low-profile laptop keyboards, versus the "more-vertical-action" keyboards of desktops from even a few years ago.

Sadly, even new desktops tend to come with these "low-profile" keyboards, despite there being no reason for it.  Long-time typists (AKA secretaries, etc.) loathe the low-profile keyboards.  They complain that, "I used to be able to type 110 WPM easily, and now I am down to 70."

The Lesson:  Product changes are not always for the better.

The Lesson, #2:  We are and will always be meat-bags.  We need tactile feedback in order to do things like type or cut carrots while looking at something else.

Meat-bags!

/PS - I rock in Photoshop using a track-pad, so some changes are actually good.
 
2013-04-06 11:36:28 PM

gingerjet: someonelse: Altair: Mugato: You can't really do any work on a tablet but most people just surf the web and tweet so I guess that's possible.
...

And if I have to sit down and write something - I do it exclusively on a tablet.  In other words - what works for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.


I do the same thing!  Do you prefer yellow or white tablets?  Narrow or wide-rule?  Legal or letter-sized?
 
2013-04-06 11:39:28 PM
So, this headline can be translated "In 4 years smaller computers will outsell larger computers". Yeah, I'll get on board with that.
 
2013-04-07 08:00:10 AM
Most computer users in business don't do more than email, write letters, make lists in spreadsheets and input a few things in the companies basic software apps. If you do more than that then you are less than 5% of all business users. If at home you do more than surf and watch youtube then you are less than 5% of users.

The desktop PC is massivly overpowerd for most people today. We are using 747's to fly 100 miles.
 
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