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(Kaiser Family Foundation)   English pub carved from flaming wrecks of 1588 Spanish Armada, which survived the firebombs of the Nazis, ordered to paint over woodwork in case it catches fire. Beer will still be warm   (thisisplymouth.co.uk) divider line 81
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2013-04-06 08:04:38 AM  
Good news, they make clear flame retardant coating.  You can paypal me money in gratitude.
 
2013-04-06 09:09:12 AM  

staplermofo: Good news, they make clear flame retardant coating.  You can paypal me money in gratitude.


I was going to suggest that too.  It probably won't make the members of the Spanish Inquisition happy until the place looks like a refurbished McDonalds though.
 
2013-04-06 10:08:40 AM  
"Why is american beer like making love in a canoe?"
"Cuz it's FARKing close to water,"
 
2013-04-06 10:09:12 AM  
"flam-retardant paint "

Looks like the retard paint is used all over.
 
2013-04-06 10:10:36 AM  
Not a problem. The insurance they bought from Twoflower should cover any accidents.
 
2013-04-06 10:11:10 AM  
In this litigious society the officials have to make them do something since they are aware there is some risk. I think it would be better if there was a posing outside the establishment stating it is "not up to code, enter at own risk."
 
2013-04-06 10:12:39 AM  
If this pub survived centuries of smokers it will probably be OK.
 
2013-04-06 10:14:16 AM  

tuna fingers: In this litigious society the officials have to make them do something since they are aware there is some risk. I think it would be better if there was a posing outside the establishment stating it is "not up to code, enter at own risk."


That'd almost work if fire didn't spread and light other stuff on fire.
 
2013-04-06 10:14:39 AM  
Leave it as is, it should be a listed building and be forced within reason to be exactly the same.

The pub is older than the U.S.A for farks sake
 
2013-04-06 10:14:42 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: If this pub survived centuries of smokers it will probably be OK.


You'd think that decades upon decades of nicotine goo would be the "flame retardant coating".
 
2013-04-06 10:15:47 AM  
Given the twelve labors of Hercules you normally have to go through to make any modifications to a Historically listed property I'm amazed they are even allowed to paint the place.
 
2013-04-06 10:18:05 AM  

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Given the twelve labors of Hercules you normally have to go through to make any modifications to a Historically listed property I'm amazed they are even allowed to paint the place.


Health and Safety will mandate this change.

Next year, Historical Preservation will fine the owners for an un-approved modification.

Ladies and Gentlemen, a preview of the United States in 2050.
 
2013-04-06 10:18:49 AM  
Better cancel that Great White show.
 
2013-04-06 10:20:23 AM  

skinink: Not a problem. The insurance they bought from Twoflower should cover any accidents.


In-sewer-ants?
 
2013-04-06 10:21:49 AM  
Funny how stupid bureaucracy  survives the ages. I pretty sure when the end of the world comes in a billion years, they'll be some gov't agency in charge of making sure you file your final income tax statement before the earth gets melted.
 
2013-04-06 10:22:03 AM  
"Safeguarding heritage from the ravages of fire is a vital part of the protection work of the fire service."

Better to definitely destroy the heritage with paint before a fire can do it!
 
2013-04-06 10:26:05 AM  

barnacleboy: Leave it as is, it should be a listed building and be forced within reason to be exactly the same.

The pub is older than the U.S.A for farks sake


Pic of a listed building:
s3.freefoto.com
Or is it listing? I forget.
 
2013-04-06 10:27:26 AM  

NoSugarAdded: "Safeguarding heritage from the ravages of fire is a vital part of the protection work of the fire service."

Better to definitely destroy the heritage with paint before a fire can do it!


They have to destroy it in order to save it.
 
2013-04-06 10:30:23 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: "flam-retardant paint "

Looks like the retard paint is used all over.


That's what you use on materials that survived attacks by the Spanish Armanada if you want to stopping them burning.
 
2013-04-06 10:31:15 AM  

meddleRPI: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Given the twelve labors of Hercules you normally have to go through to make any modifications to a Historically listed property I'm amazed they are even allowed to paint the place.

Health and Safety will mandate this change.

Next year, Historical Preservation will fine the owners for an un-approved modification.

Ladies and Gentlemen, a preview of the United States in 2050.


FTA:  Timbers in the pub survived the flaming cannons of the Spanish Armanada and the firebombs of the Luftwaffe Blitz on Plymouth

Idon't think the German Luftwaffe Blitz occurred in Massachusetts.
 
2013-04-06 10:31:41 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: If this pub survived centuries of smokers it will probably be OK.


British pubs often go on fire - oddly, usually when business is bad and the insurance is fully up to date.

I don't think flame retardant paint helps much in that sort of fire.
 
2013-04-06 10:38:18 AM  
Timbers in the pub survived the flaming cannons of the Spanish Armanada

The Armanada was firing on itself? No wonder it lost.

What is an armanada anyway?
 
2013-04-06 10:42:25 AM  

dopirt: Idon't think the German Luftwaffe Blitz occurred in Massachusetts.


Little known* fact: A lot of names in the New World are transplanted from the Old World.


*That's sarcasm.
 
2013-04-06 10:44:29 AM  
England, leading the way in nanny state idiocy.  Keep up the good work.
 
2013-04-06 10:47:46 AM  

Suede head: armanada


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2013-04-06 10:47:56 AM  

Suede head: Timbers in the pub survived the flaming cannons of the Spanish Armanada

The Armanada was firing on itself? No wonder it lost.

What is an armanada anyway?


A dance made popular in the 1870's in Bavaria.  It was known to drive men mad, the most famous victim being Mad King Ludwig.
 
2013-04-06 10:51:23 AM  
Devon and Somerset fire and rescue service said: "Safeguarding heritage from the ravages of fire is a vital part of the protection work of the fire service."

It would seem otherwise.
 
2013-04-06 10:52:49 AM  
Idon't think the German Luftwaffe Blitz occurred in Massachusetts.

Better cancel that Great White show.


You guys got me to chuckle.
 
2013-04-06 10:55:37 AM  

dopirt: Idon't think the German Luftwaffe Blitz occurred in Massachusetts.


It happened shortly after the Germans bomber Pearl Harbor.
 
2013-04-06 10:57:31 AM  
Somehow, I find this oh, you mean it took them until NOW to figure this out?
 
2013-04-06 10:58:28 AM  
Best pub in Portsmouth. Fun fact: in WWII a cruiser crashed into it.

www.talkphotography.co.uk
 
2013-04-06 11:00:29 AM  

skinink: Not a problem. The insurance they bought from Twoflower should cover any accidents.


And afterwards, it can be mended.
 
2013-04-06 11:01:45 AM  
You guys understand that the reason beer has to be super cold is because it sucks so much it must first numb your tastebuds, right? Super cold frost brewed piss water coors. Yahoo.
 
2013-04-06 11:02:29 AM  

sbchamp: "Why is american beer like making love in a canoe?"
"Cuz it's FARKing close to water,"


That joke would have made sense before the US was the craft beer capital of the planet.
 
2013-04-06 11:11:11 AM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: sbchamp: "Why is american beer like making love in a canoe?"
"Cuz it's FARKing close to water,"

That joke would have made sense before the US was the craft beer capital of the planet.


I moved from the UK to the US 12 ago, and I couldn't agree with you more. I'm consistently drinking better beer in the States than I ever did in Blighty. Cigar City FTW.

That said, I've had a pint at the Minerva - great little boozer - and frankly they should leave it the fark alone.
 
2013-04-06 11:24:20 AM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: sbchamp: "Why is american beer like making love in a canoe?"
"Cuz it's FARKing close to water,"

That joke would have made sense before the US was the craft beer capital of the planet.


*Finishes first "hair of the dog"  Flying Dog*

Sometimes, I love living in Maryland.

OK, now that we, as a nation,  got good beer out of the way, I want to see a sausage revolution.  No, not that.  I want America to start taking as much pride in its sausage as it does its beer.  I want locally produced knackwurst and bratwurst and blutwurst EVERYWHERE, like hot dogs.

Anyone living in Maryland that likes German sausage needs to check out Binkert's.  They deliver for less than it costs most people to drive there.

/Not a shill for Binkerts
//Just drunk and hungry
///And thus endeth Saturday, son of Friday
 
2013-04-06 11:29:44 AM  
FTA:

"flam-retardant paint."

What about paradiddles or ratamacues?
 
2013-04-06 11:37:36 AM  

Suede head: Best pub in Portsmouth. Fun fact: in WWII a cruiser crashed into it.

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What is the name of that pub?
 
2013-04-06 11:42:43 AM  
It became necessary to destroy the landmark in order to save it.

csb: I bought The Armada by Garrett Mattingly a few weeks ago. I haven't read it yet. Before that, I didn't know that that the defeat of the Spanish armada was a thing.
 
2013-04-06 11:52:15 AM  
One would think the historical society would be against painting it.
 
2013-04-06 11:52:47 AM  

indarwinsshadow: Funny how stupid bureaucracy  survives the ages. I pretty sure when the end of the world comes in a billion years, they'll be some gov't agency in charge of making sure you file your final income tax statement before the earth gets melted.


that's why they piss away billions in tax payer dollars building uber bunker cities underground: COG. Continuity of Government. the great unwashed can perish without their giving it a second thought but the wealthy powerful scumbags who own the government will live to carry on, cockroaches that they are.
 
2013-04-06 11:56:34 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Suede head: armanada

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oh you farking asshole...I'll NEVER get that out of my head now!!
 
2013-04-06 12:02:48 PM  

KrispyKritter: indarwinsshadow: Funny how stupid bureaucracy  survives the ages. I pretty sure when the end of the world comes in a billion years, they'll be some gov't agency in charge of making sure you file your final income tax statement before the earth gets melted.

that's why they piss away billions in tax payer dollars building uber bunker cities underground: COG. Continuity of Government. the great unwashed can perish without their giving it a second thought but the wealthy powerful scumbags who own the government will live to carry on, cockroaches that they are.


So in the case of a nuclear war, you would rather NOT have democratically elected people around to make life or death decisions for the country. Yeah, that's not a stupid prospective at all.

People elected to govern nations actually are are more important than you or I. Get over it.
 
2013-04-06 12:05:48 PM  
FTFA: Devon and Somerset fire and rescue service said: "Safeguarding heritage from the ravages of fire is a vital part of the protection work of the fire service."

Up next, the service is helpfully encasing all the paintings in the National Gallery of London in five inches of concrete.  That ought to safeguard those heritage treasures!
This is like giving a preventative vaccine that causes side effects worse than getting the disease it protects against.
I like calling up organizations like this and asking for their Department of Common Sense,
(Oh, there is no such department?  You have no common sense?)
 
2013-04-06 12:09:21 PM  
Mister Peejay:

JasonOfOrillia: If this pub survived centuries of smokers it will probably be OK.

You'd think that decades upon decades of nicotine goo would be the "flame retardant coating".


I had the opposite thought... I figured with 500+ years of smoking, the woodwork would be saturated with more creosote than a railroad tie and be that much *more* flammable.
 
2013-04-06 12:13:09 PM  
GoldDude:

FTFA: Devon and Somerset fire and rescue service said: "Safeguarding heritage from the ravages of fire is a vital part of the protection work of the fire service."

Up next, the service is helpfully encasing all the paintings in the National Gallery of London in five inches of concrete. That ought to safeguard those heritage treasures!
This is like giving a preventative vaccine that causes side effects worse than getting the disease it protects against.
I like calling up organizations like this and asking for their Department of Common Sense,
(Oh, there is no such department? You have no common sense?)


Is the pub standing in the middle of a field where if it goes up in flames it won't damage any structures around it?

As has been pointed out, fire codes don't just protect the building they're applied to.
 
2013-04-06 12:21:27 PM  

Dear Jerk: It became necessary to destroy the landmark in order to save it.

csb: I bought The Armada by Garrett Mattingly a few weeks ago. I haven't read it yet. Before that, I didn't know that that the defeat of the Spanish armada was a thing.


Oh, hell yeah. Francis Drake was engaged in a game of lawn bowls when he was informed of the approach of the Spanish Armada, and he's famoutly reported to have said "There is time enough to finish a game of bowls and defeat the Spanish as well." He then went on to do both those things, finishing off the Spanish in port with several fireships.
 
2013-04-06 12:28:36 PM  
Random CSB: Supposedly my family donated a cane to the Smithsonian Institution that was made from timbers from the White House after it was torched in the War of 1812, with metal trim made from fittings of some warship of the same era.
/ like I said, random.
 
2013-04-06 12:38:46 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: sbchamp: "Why is american beer like making love in a canoe?"
"Cuz it's FARKing close to water,"

That joke would have made sense before the US was the craft beer capital of the planet.


No, it still makes sense. It's typical America -- all or nothing, there is no middle ground. Pisswater, or something with absolutely no subtlety whatsoever. You still get much better beer overseas than here. (And 99% of what's sold here is still the pisswater variety anyway.)
 
2013-04-06 12:41:13 PM  

gweilo8888: or something with absolutely no subtlety whatsoever.


While that's true for some IPAs (okay, pretty much any IPA made in America), it's nowhere close to true for all American craft beer.
 
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