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(Take Part)   Seattle to build nation's first food forest. Finally, a place where you can make your own trailmix by hand   (takepart.com) divider line 15
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2013-04-06 10:13:54 AM  
3 votes:
I think this is a really cool idea.  I'm willing to forgo the usual FarkSnark and hope this works.
2013-04-06 09:02:59 AM  
3 votes:
Seattle's vision of an urban food oasis is going forward. A seven-acre plot of land in the city's Beacon Hill neighborhood will be planted with hundreds of different kinds of edibles: walnut and chestnut trees

Neat, right next to the homeless encampments set up in the Beacon Hill greenbelt. Creating wild growing food will be great to attract more feral human populations.
2013-04-06 10:47:06 AM  
2 votes:

Queen Amy: Deer? Rats will be all over the fruit.


I can tell a lot of people in this thread haven't been to Seattle.  You can already go berry picking at your local empty lot.  Seems like the only difference here will be the assortment of edibles.
2013-04-06 10:38:17 AM  
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Louisiana_Sitar_Club: So who gets to decide what sort of pest control measures are employed, if any?  I am positive that there will be no disagreements over this point.  I am also confident that it will be entirely feasible to monitor all plants at all times to ensure that antisocial nut jobs will never tamper with the food.  It is also a sure deal that everyone will feel as though everyone else is limiting their harvest to their own "fair share".  This is gonna be great.


We do have "Pea patches" (Urban Tilth) scattered around in vacant lots or corner lots, people seem to not vandalize those, other than the occasional drunk that stomps through or something. I see people tending to them nearly every day. there's a waiting list to get a plot, too.

So taking that one step further, its conceivable a public park could grow food to feed people, at least for a while, til word got out there's free food in the park.

As for attacking people sociopathically, out here its just a lot more simple to buy a truckload of guns at a gun show with no background check, load up on ammo and shoot up a coffee house or after hours party. Thats the preferred sociopath outlet. Or go strangle a hooker and leave her dead in an isolated riverbank. We get a socially inept red stater who moved to the big city to find his fortune or find love, and he winds up being ostracized as the pushy right wing dipsh*t that he truly is, and to get even he shoots up a room full of innocent bystanders. Its happened twice in recent years. Same MO, the damn small town he came from always knew he was a nice quiet guy who would never harm anyone, then you mix him into the stress of having a career and a personality that fits a west coast city, and he cracks. Now Kids, Now.
2013-04-06 10:00:16 AM  
2 votes:
And some lunatic will plant something poisonous to kill people. Sure, it will LOOK edible, but noooooo.
2013-04-06 09:51:47 AM  
2 votes:
Yeah, this isn't going to be trampled and covered in cigarette butts in a year. Noooo...
2013-04-06 01:05:56 PM  
1 votes:

onyxruby: FloydA: FARK rebel soldier: pineapple

You've never harvested pineapple before have you.

That was the first thing that jumped out at me too.  I've just checked; pineapple and guava will not be grown in the food forest.


Queen Amy: Deer? Rats will be all over the fruit.

Only if they can fight off the squirrels, raccoons, and possums.  (Deer will not be a problem.)

I have several raised garden beds in my yard. I also have squirrels, raccoons, rabbits, and possums. I promise you this does nothing to fend off the deer that also eat from my gardens. Deer are very much a problem and I'm limited in what I can do about them.


Not in Beacon Hill though; there's not a large enough undeveloped area to support them.  There may be a population in the Cheasty Blvd greenbelt, but they'd have to cross Beacon Ave to get to the food forest.  It's possible, but I've never seen deer anywhere near there.

If they built this out by Newcastle or East Renton Highlands, then yes, definitely, but in Beacon Hill, you've got more to worry about from the skateboarders than the deer.
2013-04-06 12:33:31 PM  
1 votes:

onyxruby: Deer are very much a problem and I'm limited in what I can do about them.


Kill them, dance your victory dance, eat your enemy, feed and add their power to your own.
2013-04-06 12:25:51 PM  
1 votes:

onyxruby: I have several raised garden beds in my yard. I also have squirrels, raccoons, rabbits, and possums. I promise you this does nothing to fend off the deer that also eat from my gardens. Deer are very much a problem and I'm limited in what I can do about them.


Without these, I couldn't have a garden because of the deer. They actually work, but it does limit the size and location (near a water source) of your garden. For the medium to small critters I use a .22 rifle. Looks like I'm going to have a vole/mole problem this year - have no idea what to do about them.
2013-04-06 10:38:43 AM  
1 votes:
What a great idea, I bet it will be overrun with rats of every kind
2013-04-06 10:29:59 AM  
1 votes:

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: So who gets to decide what sort of pest control measures are employed, if any?  I am positive that there will be no disagreements over this point.  I am also confident that it will be entirely feasible to monitor all plants at all times to ensure that antisocial nut jobs will never tamper with the food.  It is also a sure deal that everyone will feel as though everyone else is limiting their harvest to their own "fair share".  This is gonna be great.


Tragedy of the Commons. Profoundly naive covers it. Oh well, the snowflakes will have to learn the hard way, no amount of negative snarking is going to deter a do gooder from fully realizing the unintended consequences of their actions.

And then blaming everyone else when it doesn't work as they envisioned it working.
2013-04-06 10:27:14 AM  
1 votes:

UNC_Samurai: I think this is a really cool idea.  I'm willing to forgo the usual FarkSnark and hope this works.


Yeah, it's a "cool idea" but profoundly naive. For that reason it is an enormous waste of money and other resources that could be better spent elsewhere if they really wanted to do something to better the community.  This is just a group of people wasting resources to increase their fuzzy feelings.
2013-04-06 10:04:47 AM  
1 votes:
Deer? Rats will be all over the fruit.
2013-04-06 10:02:27 AM  
1 votes:
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2013-04-06 10:01:49 AM  
1 votes:
So I'm guessing Seattle doesn't have a huge deer problem like other parts of the country? I can't even put out a bird feeder anymore.
 
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