I'm all for gay marriage.  Universally, no restrictions.  All rights, benefits, and protections conferred on heterosexual couples should be available to gay couples.  Right now.

Then can we farking stop talking about it and focus everyone on the puppeteers who are financially raping us all?  Maslow's hierarchy of needs.



Gay marriage, abortion, drugs and all of the other divisive issues being jammed down our throats start at the "Belongingness and Love needs" and go up.  Social Security, Healthcare, jobs, the environment, peace, and education are in the "Safety needs" and lower.  WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THESE THINGS.

AngryDragon: I'm all for gay marriage.  Universally, no restrictions.  All rights, benefits, and protections conferred on heterosexual couples should be available to gay couples.  Right now.

Then can we farking stop talking about it and focus everyone on the puppeteers who are financially raping us all?  Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

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Gay marriage, abortion, drugs and all of the other divisive issues being jammed down our throats start at the "Belongingness and Love needs" and go up.  Social Security, Healthcare, jobs, the environment, peace, and education are in the "Safety needs" and lower.  WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THESE THINGS.

And sex is a basic life need, why haven't I gotten laid lately?! Thanks, Obama.

Seriously though, the government can't and shouldn't just focus on one thing at a time. Gay Marriage is (should be) an easy fix to a blatantly unfair situation, with no downside whatsoever. The stuff you mentioned is really hard and requires money, that's going to take a lot longer to decide on a course of action. It's actually far more enraging that equal rights for gays is taking as long as it is than the fact that we haven't solved all the inherent problems of capitalism yet.

WorldCitizen: Gay rights gaining momentum?  Hey look, jobs report!

This.

Not that this is a good angle for them to try. Which party was it that ran on a platform of JOBS JOBS JOBS, only to obstruct any jobs bills into being shelved while simultaneously flooding the country with social agenda bills and sixty-odd attempts to repeal Obamacare, again?

Draq: .....Seriously though, the government can't and shouldn't just focus on one thing at a time. Gay Marriage is (should be) an easy fix to a blatantly unfair situation, with no downside whatsoever. The stuff you mentioned is really hard and requires money, that's going to take a lot longer to decide on a course of action. It's actually far more enraging that equal rights for gays is taking as long as it is than the fact that we haven't solved all the inherent problems of capitalism yet.

I understand and empathize.  I really do.  I am all for moving the discussion forward.  HOWEVER, while topics like these consume the national debate the more universally important issues are being negotiated in the background and not to our advantage.

Exhibit One
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/05/politics/obama-budget/index.html

We are being distracted while the country is being looted.

Fluorescent Testicle: WorldCitizen: Gay rights gaining momentum?  Hey look, jobs report!

This.

Not that this is a good angle for them to try. Which party was it that ran on a platform of JOBS JOBS JOBS, only to obstruct any jobs bills into being shelved while simultaneously flooding the country with social agenda bills and sixty-odd attempts to repeal Obamacare, again?

Republican controlled states have gone berserk lately.  I heard tonight that the Virginia AG, and likely governor candidate, is trying to bad sodomy outright, in defiance of past Supreme Court decisions on the topic.  And I think I heard something about one state trying to add a 2 year delay to divorce.

Ah, it's North Carolina talking about a 2 year wait period on divorce.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/04/01/n-c-lawmakers-propose-two-year-w ai ting-period-before-divorce/

Alphax: Republican controlled states have gone berserk lately.  I heard tonight that the Virginia AG, and likely governor candidate, is trying to bad sodomy outright, in defiance of past Supreme Court decisions on the topic.  And I think I heard something about one state trying to add a 2 year delay to divorce.

You know how, when people die, they crap themselves? Yeah...

I wonder if they'll try to put a 2 year ban on gay divorce?

Any business that had a good business plan that needed to hire new employees and do not are just cutting their own throats.  Of course, they will eat steak no matter what happens to the rest of their employees or the working person in general, so they have that.

Oh, and the Arkansas senate decided to announce that they're not supporting the Equal Rights Amendment.  Just so everyone knows.

It's because the jobs report was expected.

Most of the recent job growth has been retail. After two years (2011 and 2012) of being reduced from 6.2% to 4.2%, the payroll tax went back to 6.2% effective January, 2013. The increase in the payroll tax hurt retail spending. Everyone expected it.

AngryDragon: We are being distracted while the country is being looted.

This has pretty much been true of the USA for forty years, in some way or another. Don't worry, post-Imperial decline is generally quite comfortable. Check out how well England's doing, after all. Er. Okay, well, Spain.

The labor force participation rate, number of people on disability, and number of people on welfare should tell you pretty much all you need to know about actual job numbers in this country.

No hangover, and it's a glorious morning. Turn your computer off, GO OUTSIDE AND SMILE.

If not for yourself, do it for all the people that can't do it for themselves. They need to know it's still possible.

It's almost as if government spending was a part of GDP, and cuts to the former will reduce the latter, negatively affecting job growth.

Isn't this the same agency reporting jobs numbers that the Repubes were calling filthy liars just a few months ago...

When will you people realize that Obama is an abject failure?

FC Exile: When will you people realize that Obama is an abject failure?

At?

JerkyMeat: Ok, shiaty little capitalist scum, if your business plan doesn't work because you can't handle the responsibility of providing health care, then don't go into business, and go work for someone instead.

Chances are that you are probably an ego freak who can't work with authority, and NOT some superstar business person with a winning plan for a profitable business.

LOLOL. This is what farklibs actually believe.

The jobs report is certainly bad news and if the next two or three are equally as bad we gave a seriously problem. However, shiat happens and it may well have happened here for reasons statistical or otherwise. In any case, if you dismiss month after month after month of healthy if not robust job growth as illusory and not indicative of a successful Obama economic plan, you cannot seize upon a single month of bad results as proof positive that his economic plan has failed.

Oh wait, I guess you can.

Alphax: Oh, and the Arkansas senate decided to announce that they're not supporting the Equal Rights Amendment.  Just so everyone knows.

Huh? Equal rights amendment not being supported by a state legislature? Are you a time traveler from 35 years ago?

FC Exile: When will you people realize that Obama is an abject failure?

Weird.  He's gone from being raised by a lower middle class single mother in Kansas to being the most powerful man in the world.  If he's a failure, what do you suppose that makes you?

These are the same people who spent their last national convention trying to pretend that the most recent Republican administration never happened, so, you know. . .

FC Exile: When will you people realize that Obama is an abject failure?

I voted for Obama twice and I can freely admit he is an abject failure at bowling, probably the worst I have ever seen.

Alphax: FC Exile: When will you people realize that Obama is an abject failure?

At?

Making worthless assholes respect him?

Gay marriage will help to mainstream gays more than any republican outreach programs.
( really let's call it and go home already .)

 Once the ceremony is over and the floor is sweep , the real work begins: Estate tax , Inheritance , alimony, custodial rights ,property and shared credit and debts. Schools and jobs and community.

Come on in the water is fine. And good luck.

// Oh, how's the job search coming along ?

Sequester says what?

Alphax: Ah, it's North Carolina talking about a 2 year wait period on divorce.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/04/01/n-c-lawmakers-propose-two-year-w ai ting-period-before-divorce/

I don't agree with that, but at least it is consistent with the 'sanctity of marriage' jib.

From a legal standpoint, a marriage is merely a business contract between two willing participants. The government has not right to tell us who can enter such an agreement with who. Its ridiculous that many of my so-called fellow libertarians feel they have the right to enforce their beliefs on other consenting adults that are not hurting anyone.

That being said, I would be up in arms if the government ever tries to force churches to recognize gay marriage as well. Clearly, that is the decision of the church only.

I don't get the outrage though. If you are against gay marriage, marry someone of the opposite sex and be happy.  If you don't agree with your church's stance on gay marriage, find one that does.  To live in a democracy is to have to tolerate a lot of people you don't necessarily like for the sake of liberty and peace. It's called being a farking adult.

Just a few decades ago gay people could get the shiat kicked out of them and no one cared. Now they are on the verge of having their relationships be taken as seriously as everyone else's. But who cares? That doesn't affect me, and since I'm a sociopath I only care about me and don't see what the big deal is.

Too bad the politicians and news agencies aren't able to present multiple stories at a time.

Delay: It's because the jobs report was expected.

Most of the recent job growth has been retail. After two years (2011 and 2012) of being reduced from 6.2% to 4.2%, the payroll tax went back to 6.2% effective January, 2013. The increase in the payroll tax hurt retail spending. Everyone expected it.

You have a citation on A) recent job growth being retail and B) The payroll tax increase directly affecting retail spending?