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(Telegraph)   How friendly is the relationship between China and Best Korea right now? Well, when Chinese officials refer to Kim Jong-Un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty The Third", what does that tell you?   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 159
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2013-04-05 07:22:25 PM

medius: fatty turds can be a sign of a serious medical problem


My seven year old nephew told me that if your turds float, you have too much fat in your diet. Since then, I have to check. Every time.

/good so far
 
2013-04-05 07:22:38 PM
justwilliam1959.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-05 07:23:22 PM

SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.


Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

images.plus613.net

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.
 
2013-04-05 07:24:55 PM
But as The New Yorker pointed out, China will support North Korea no matter what it does because it doesn't want to see a situation where the United States or South Korea are occupying North Korea. This pretty much gives North Korea cover to do whatever they want.
 
2013-04-05 07:25:42 PM

fusillade762: SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

[images.plus613.net image 800x452]

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.


You guys have never seen flair before?
 
2013-04-05 07:26:49 PM
fta: Certainly North Korea no longer merits much respect among ordinary Chinese, who have taken to insulting Kim Jong-un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty the Third", in reference to his father and grandfather, on the Chinese internet.


I'm c
urious as to when ordinary Chinese had any modicum of respect toward DPRK in the last several decades?  I've lived in China for a few years and even went to the DPRK/China border area.  I didn't exactly take a poll and the topic didn't come up too often, but the impression I got from Chinese friends and coworkers was that the North Koreans were at best, misguided and sort of to be pitied (being they are so poor) and at worst, totally nuts and silly for not opening up to the West.   Some friends thought it was amusing to see some of the pics of North Korea as it reminded them of the Cultural Revolution or China pre-1980.

I don't think any of them were at all keen about going to war and ruining their own economy for the sake of some crazy foreign Stalinist state.
 
2013-04-05 07:27:30 PM
Maybe it means they think of him as a giant joint.
 
2013-04-05 07:28:18 PM

pxlboy: Lt. Cheese Weasel: fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

I have wondered the same thing.


if they are similiar to the then-soviets in the style of awards then they'll hand out multiple instances of the same award and they just put the same ribbon/badge on their uniform over and over again.
 
2013-04-05 07:33:35 PM

Infernalist: There was a report not so long ago that stated that the Chinese had massed a number of troops on the northern NK border.  Mostly there to keep the NK people in NK during this mess, I imagine they're also there to push into NK if it looks like SK is going to try push into NK from the south.

China will not allow a united Korea under American patronage.


No doubt.  This only underscores my point; that North Korea is China's bastard and they need to discipline their unruly child.
 
2013-04-05 07:36:17 PM
SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

http://images.plus613.net/images/29900/www_plus613_com_skoreyabig.jpg " width="800" height="452">

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.



that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop.  However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.
 
2013-04-05 07:36:31 PM
Didn't we do this before?
 
2013-04-05 07:37:33 PM

CaptSacto: fusillade762: SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

[images.plus613.net image 800x452]

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.

You guys have never seen flair before?


/Approves!
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-05 07:38:17 PM

SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.


After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..
 
2013-04-05 07:38:27 PM
If the Chinese use the North Koreans to draw in our naval and other assets, we might be subject to a nasty little escalation with a quick surprise.

Maybe the North Koreans aren't the only bad guys in this. If we're convinced we're going to be fighting a backward, low-tech country and position our forces accordingly, then all of a sudden...
 
2013-04-05 07:46:48 PM
If this ever did happen, it would be kind of scary because it would mean North Korea isn't listening to anybody.  You want there to be somone who can call them and tell them to put down the lighter fluid.
 
2013-04-05 07:47:01 PM

fusillade762: vernonFL:

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.



Let Me Clear My Throat...
 
2013-04-05 07:47:15 PM

Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..


They might take his DNA and make a clone called  Little Kim.
 
2013-04-05 07:47:48 PM
Somaticasual: After the mortar round execution, I think its fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level.  I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new laid hidden in a volcano.


I think when his regime collapses one way or the other, we're in for some very interesting stories. Real Caligula/Dr. No stuff.  I'm looking forward to the HBO series on "The KIms".
 
2013-04-05 07:48:41 PM
It seems we have a lot more in common with China than I thought we did.
 
2013-04-05 07:48:51 PM

Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..


What is this... I don't even...

Seems like a very wasteful way to execute someone.
 
2013-04-05 07:49:08 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: If the Chinese use the North Koreans to draw in our naval and other assets, we might be subject to a nasty little escalation with a quick surprise.

Maybe the North Koreans aren't the only bad guys in this. If we're convinced we're going to be fighting a backward, low-tech country and position our forces accordingly, then all of a sudden...


China stands absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose in an open conflict with the Us even if they were successful in an east Asia theater campaign.
 
2013-04-05 07:49:28 PM
WhoopAssWayne:

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

40 year old American road iron and they don't even blink at what that says about them as a nation.


Hey now! Having owned and restored over 6 tons of 40 year old American road iron, I'd say this is one place where I'd agree with the North Koreans.
 
2013-04-05 07:49:32 PM

rockforever: Why do people think the Chinese are allied to NKorea?
.


Because China has a defense pact treaty with them?
 
2013-04-05 07:50:14 PM

Mantour: [f.kulfoto.com image 500x423]

/mama grizzly has spoken!


I can picture her saying something like that.
 
2013-04-05 07:50:24 PM

Treygreen13: Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..

What is this... I don't even...

Seems like a very wasteful way to execute someone.


YOU ASSHORES!  I EXPLESSRY SAID 'EXTINCT VOCRANO!!'
 
2013-04-05 07:50:25 PM
If I go to work for the North Koreans can I have my own secret lair in a dead volcano?

ooooo! AND a trained army of female kung-fu killers?

'cause that might be worth it

/really really likes kim-chee

yes, I will work for spoiled cabbage. what of it?
 
2013-04-05 07:52:45 PM
wtf is a 'vocrano'?

/smack
 
2013-04-05 07:53:10 PM

fusillade762: SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

[images.plus613.net image 800x452]

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.


Those aren't medals. Those are dress shurikens.
 
2013-04-05 07:54:41 PM
What we should do is load a catapult with those chocopie things and shoot them at North Korea and see what happens.

"The American's are shooting food at us comrade Kim."

"What kind?"

"Chocopies."

"Well hell, bring me some; and tell the Americans that we know they aren't serious because they aren't shooting pizzas at us."
 
2013-04-05 07:55:26 PM

maxheck: WhoopAssWayne:

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

40 year old American road iron and they don't even blink at what that says about them as a nation.

Hey now! Having owned and restored over 6 tons of 40 year old American road iron, I'd say this is one place where I'd agree with the North Koreans.


What is that, like one car?
 
2013-04-05 07:56:21 PM
Latinwolf:

Mantour: [f.kulfoto.com image 500x423]

/mama grizzly has spoken!

I can picture her saying something like that.


She came pretty close
 
2013-04-05 07:58:48 PM

Treygreen13: Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..

What is this... I don't even...

Seems like a very wasteful way to execute someone.


Apparently Ol' Un had an army minister executed for basically partying during the mourning period for his father. They had the guy stand on a spot zero'd in for a mortar round. Wasteful, maybe, but it definitely reeks of that level of diabolical maniac
 
2013-04-05 08:00:55 PM

thamike: He fixes the cable?


Log jammin.
 
2013-04-05 08:00:56 PM
Bisu:

maxheck: WhoopAssWayne:

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

40 year old American road iron and they don't even blink at what that says about them as a nation.

Hey now! Having owned and restored over 6 tons of 40 year old American road iron, I'd say this is one place where I'd agree with the North Koreans.

What is that, like one car?


3 actually... So maybe closer to 10 tons. ('66 Coupe de Ville, '69 Fleetwood 75 limo, '71 Sedan de Ville)
 
2013-04-05 08:01:16 PM

maxheck: Hey now! Having owned and restored over 6 tons of 40 year old American road iron, I'd say this is one place where I'd agree with the North Koreans.


Niiice, wish I had dem skills.
 
2013-04-05 08:04:00 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Yeah.

Good cop. Bad cop.

When the Chi-coms put a bullet in the back of the head of a political prisoner, harvest his organs and sell his body so it can be displayed in "science" museums around the world, well, that political prisoner had it coming.

Just remember who the party is that's selling us melamine-laced foods, "farm" raised fish from sewers, etc.

The Communist Chinese love North Korea. Best Korea makes them look real good to the West.



THIS
But wait, there's more
No matter which century it is
The Han have always ruled in both countries.
To China, this is the little brother Han, acting up again.
They take a long view on Korea, all of Korea.
 
2013-04-05 08:10:44 PM

jaylectricity: brantgoose: (not the twilighty show with the sparkly vampires who mope about like emos, the old one).

Why couldn't you just say The Twilight Zone and save yourself a whole sentence?


He's a bad man and I'm going to send him to the cornfield.
 
2013-04-05 08:12:51 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: Yeah.

Good cop. Bad cop.

When the Chi-coms put a bullet in the back of the head of a political prisoner, harvest his organs and sell his body so it can be displayed in "science" museums around the world, well, that political prisoner had it coming.

Just remember who the party is that's selling us melamine-laced foods, "farm" raised fish from sewers, etc.

The Communist Chinese love North Korea. Best Korea makes them look real good to the West.


There are plenty of reasons the Chinese have been patient with North Korea. Part of it is certainly the fact that North Korea takes some attention away from China's human rights practices. Some of it probably is a nostalgic desire to support one of the last "communist" countries in the region. Some of it comes from a desire to avoid a unified Korea with strong ties to the US.

In the end, though, China has been working damn hard to join the modern world. At some point China is going to pull on North Korea's leash hard, because regional stability is in China's interest and North Korea has become a huge destabilizing factor.
 
2013-04-05 08:14:01 PM
Behold the power of Kim Jong Pie!
 
2013-04-05 08:14:13 PM

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!


www.godlikeproductions.com
 
2013-04-05 08:16:23 PM

doyner: Infernalist: There was a report not so long ago that stated that the Chinese had massed a number of troops on the northern NK border.  Mostly there to keep the NK people in NK during this mess, I imagine they're also there to push into NK if it looks like SK is going to try push into NK from the south.

China will not allow a united Korea under American patronage.

No doubt.  This only underscores my point; that North Korea is China's bastard and they need to discipline their unruly child.


Yeah, that's kinda my thought. The Chinese might move south to stop the North Koreans from moving too close to their border when the shiat hits the fan.
 
2013-04-05 08:20:50 PM
This time is definitely different.  Ordinarily, NK acts up, China sends some diplomats and NK lists their demands.  This time, NK asked China to send an envoy and China told them to pound sand.
 
2013-04-05 08:24:02 PM
Nice custom Continental. Suppose he's got an El Dorado too?
 
2013-04-05 08:24:16 PM

Nadie_AZ: Danger Avoid Death: scottydoesntknow: You had me going there subby. Officials aren't at the name calling stage yet. The general Chinese populace has been calling him that pretty much since the day he took over.

How to you say "Fark" in Chinese?

Falk?


Just one more thing...
 
2013-04-05 08:26:57 PM
One of the wonders of Fark.... I didn't know until googling around in relation to this thread, but evidently Chiang Kai-Shek was big on vintage Cadillacs.

Seriously... Google "chiang kai-shek cadillac" without the quotes.

Still doesn't have anything on the Cambodian royal hearses:

i45.tinypic.com

"I'll take Asian megalomaniacs pimp-mobiles for $5000, Alex."
 
2013-04-05 08:29:56 PM

doyner: Great.  They use pejorative names to describe the Kim Jongs.  How about, instead, they put their bastard child back in the box?  "Best" Korea is China's legacy; they're the ones that need to deal with it.  If it weren't for them, they'd have a stable, unified, thriving capitalist Korean peninsula with which to trade and make more money today.

Instead, they've let this boil on the ass of humanity fester.


Alternate reality: China takes over North Korea. America protests "China is demonstrating their expansionist goals and Communist disdain for national independence by overthrowing a regime that had not directly threatened them."

You can't have it both ways, you know. If you want China to step in, you'd have to rewind 60 years of America shrieking "COMMUNIST AGGRESSION" and finger-pointing every time China or Russia even looked at another country. One reason we HAVE  a North and South Korea is because America chose not to listen in 1950 when China said "stay out of North Korea, please" and MacArthur said "I don't listen to dirty Commies." So today, China is understandably wary of sending anyone in to fix North Korea, on account of what happened last time.
 
2013-04-05 08:42:25 PM
The Telegraph realizes that the stuff it's citing isn't much different than a site like Fark, right?

\Grass mud horse covers the middle.
\\Look it up.
 
2013-04-05 08:48:02 PM

rockforever: Why do people think the Chinese are allied to NKorea?

North Korea is a mess waiting to happen, China knows that once the shiat hits the fan they'll be the ones having to clean it up.

If the US wants the Chinese to help stop Nkorea the US needs to pledge to take care of millions of refugees, otherwise the Chinese know it will be there problem.


Cause a unified Korea puts a strong US nuclear presence at China's doorstep.
 
2013-04-05 08:49:51 PM
We need to collectively, as a nation, say in one loud voice to our leaders, proudly, here and now; Do not bomb the classic cars!
 
2013-04-05 08:50:41 PM

Gyrfalcon: doyner: Great.  They use pejorative names to describe the Kim Jongs.  How about, instead, they put their bastard child back in the box?  "Best" Korea is China's legacy; they're the ones that need to deal with it.  If it weren't for them, they'd have a stable, unified, thriving capitalist Korean peninsula with which to trade and make more money today.

Instead, they've let this boil on the ass of humanity fester.

Alternate reality: China takes over North Korea. America protests "China is demonstrating their expansionist goals and Communist disdain for national independence by overthrowing a regime that had not directly threatened them."

You can't have it both ways, you know. If you want China to step in, you'd have to rewind 60 years of America shrieking "COMMUNIST AGGRESSION" and finger-pointing every time China or Russia even looked at another country. One reason we HAVE  a North and South Korea is because America chose not to listen in 1950 when China said "stay out of North Korea, please" and MacArthur said "I don't listen to dirty Commies." So today, China is understandably wary of sending anyone in to fix North Korea, on account of what happened last time.


That was a national embarrassment--a breakdown of our command structure.  We've learned since then and so have the Chinese.  I doubt very seriously that we'd make much of a stink if China invaded and used some equivalent of the Bush doctrine as justification; claiming they were "liberating" the Best Koreans from a brutal dictatorship.
 
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