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(Telegraph)   How friendly is the relationship between China and Best Korea right now? Well, when Chinese officials refer to Kim Jong-Un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty The Third", what does that tell you?   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 159
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2013-04-05 04:37:56 PM  
i1136.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-05 04:44:20 PM  
Fatty Fatty Unbalatty is my own personal favorite.
 
2013-04-05 04:47:13 PM  
You had me going there subby. Officials aren't at the name calling stage yet. The general Chinese populace has been calling him that pretty much since the day he took over.
 
2013-04-05 04:54:22 PM  
Presented for your consideration:  North Korea is what you get when the fat asthmatic kid everybody picks on at school gets to run the world.

It's like an episode of that twilighty show (not the twilighty show with the sparkly vampires who mope about like emos, the old one).

Then again, maybe not everybody in the world can have cheap 100 Megabyte a second downloads. The World wouldn't take it. It would explode.
 
2013-04-05 04:57:20 PM  
I personally like Lil' Kim myself.
 
2013-04-05 04:58:07 PM  
When it comes to Kims, when you've seen Un, you've seen 'em all.
He ate the rest of them.
 
2013-04-05 05:27:43 PM  
graphics8.nytimes.com

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!
 
2013-04-05 05:40:42 PM  
That means that Chinese officials are using their Thin Privilege to shame and humiliate Kim Jong Un.
 
2013-04-05 05:41:27 PM  
TIL:  China has over 1 billion officials.

To be fair, everyone in China probably think that everyone in the conflict sounds fat.
 
2013-04-05 05:43:00 PM  
That he is rotund?
 
2013-04-05 05:49:54 PM  

brantgoose: (not the twilighty show with the sparkly vampires who mope about like emos, the old one).


Why couldn't you just say The Twilight Zone and save yourself a whole sentence?
 
2013-04-05 05:49:58 PM  
He fixes the cable?
 
2013-04-05 05:51:46 PM  

jaylectricity: brantgoose: (not the twilighty show with the sparkly vampires who mope about like emos, the old one).

Why couldn't you just say The Twilight Zone and save yourself a whole sentence?


Maybe he was too busy coming up with a poor analogy.
 
2013-04-05 05:53:24 PM  

thamike: He fixes the cable?


Dammit
 
2013-04-05 05:54:09 PM  
Great.  They use pejorative names to describe the Kim Jongs.  How about, instead, they put their bastard child back in the box?  "Best" Korea is China's legacy; they're the ones that need to deal with it.  If it weren't for them, they'd have a stable, unified, thriving capitalist Korean peninsula with which to trade and make more money today.

Instead, they've let this boil on the ass of humanity fester.
 
2013-04-05 06:38:37 PM  
www.godlikeproductions.com
 
2013-04-05 06:40:37 PM  
Why do people think the Chinese are allied to NKorea?

North Korea is a mess waiting to happen, China knows that once the shiat hits the fan they'll be the ones having to clean it up.

If the US wants the Chinese to help stop Nkorea the US needs to pledge to take care of millions of refugees, otherwise the Chinese know it will be there problem.
 
2013-04-05 06:40:46 PM  
www.godlikeproductions.com
 
2013-04-05 06:42:34 PM  
Yeah.

Good cop. Bad cop.

When the Chi-coms put a bullet in the back of the head of a political prisoner, harvest his organs and sell his body so it can be displayed in "science" museums around the world, well, that political prisoner had it coming.

Just remember who the party is that's selling us melamine-laced foods, "farm" raised fish from sewers, etc.

The Communist Chinese love North Korea. Best Korea makes them look real good to the West.
 
2013-04-05 06:43:01 PM  
That the Stay Pufft Beanie Baby is off in the corner of the playground by himself
 
2013-04-05 06:43:29 PM  

doyner: Great.  They use pejorative names to describe the Kim Jongs.  How about, instead, they put their bastard child back in the box?  "Best" Korea is China's legacy; they're the ones that need to deal with it.  If it weren't for them, they'd have a stable, unified, thriving capitalist Korean peninsula with which to trade and make more money today.

Instead, they've let this boil on the ass of humanity fester.


To them, there's more important things than money.
 
2013-04-05 06:43:29 PM  

scottydoesntknow: You had me going there subby. Officials aren't at the name calling stage yet. The general Chinese populace has been calling him that pretty much since the day he took over.


How to you say "Fark" in Chinese?
 
2013-04-05 06:43:35 PM  
www.godlikeproductions.com
 
2013-04-05 06:43:42 PM  

Triumph: [www.godlikeproductions.com image 459x300]


*laughs*

Well done.
 
2013-04-05 06:44:18 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: scottydoesntknow: You had me going there subby. Officials aren't at the name calling stage yet. The general Chinese populace has been calling him that pretty much since the day he took over.

How to you say "Fark" in Chinese?


Falk?
 
2013-04-05 06:45:07 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Just remember who the party is that's selling us melamine-laced foods, "farm" raised fish from sewers, etc.



Walmart?
 
2013-04-05 06:47:38 PM  
That's crap. China is taking advantage and opening up mineral resources with its child NK.
 
2013-04-05 06:47:57 PM  

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!


Because they can't make their own

PS - Fatty, you gots 12 nukes. We have 7,700 and can make more. You really wanna see Slim Pickens riding a  fusion device your way?

PPS - and don't forget our Ohio Class boomers lurking offshore. I guarantee there at least two.
24 Tridents with up to 12 MIRVd warheads, 22 tubes with each with 7 Tomahawks, if you do the math, 154.

Crank up the Burn Unit, Kimmy
 
2013-04-05 06:48:43 PM  

FreetardoRivera: TheShavingofOccam123: Just remember who the party is that's selling us melamine-laced foods, "farm" raised fish from sewers, etc.


Walmart?


Now don't go clouding the issue with facts!
 
2013-04-05 06:50:08 PM  
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!


I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.
 
2013-04-05 06:50:40 PM  

jaylectricity: brantgoose: (not the twilighty show with the sparkly vampires who mope about like emos, the old one).

Why couldn't you just say The Twilight Zone and save yourself a whole sentence?


You know you'd whizz your leiderhosen if you saw a sparkly vampire. Just sayin...
 
2013-04-05 06:50:53 PM  

Infernalist: doyner: Great.  They use pejorative names to describe the Kim Jongs.  How about, instead, they put their bastard child back in the box?  "Best" Korea is China's legacy; they're the ones that need to deal with it.  If it weren't for them, they'd have a stable, unified, thriving capitalist Korean peninsula with which to trade and make more money today.

Instead, they've let this boil on the ass of humanity fester.

To them, there's more important things than money.


I'm sure there are.  But I'm also sure they don't like having a parasitic neighbor full of future refugees looking north
 
2013-04-05 06:53:13 PM  

rockforever: North Korea is a mess waiting to happen,


It can stop waiting.
 
2013-04-05 06:53:40 PM  
North Korea is like the nere-do well brother in law that's sleeping on China's couch.  He is loud, spends their money, won't get a job and leaves a mess in the kitchen and the living room.  China would love to get rid of him, but can't.
 
2013-04-05 06:53:53 PM  

doyner: Infernalist: doyner: Great.  They use pejorative names to describe the Kim Jongs.  How about, instead, they put their bastard child back in the box?  "Best" Korea is China's legacy; they're the ones that need to deal with it.  If it weren't for them, they'd have a stable, unified, thriving capitalist Korean peninsula with which to trade and make more money today.

Instead, they've let this boil on the ass of humanity fester.

To them, there's more important things than money.

I'm sure there are.  But I'm also sure they don't like having a parasitic neighbor full of future refugees looking north


There was a report not so long ago that stated that the Chinese had massed a number of troops on the northern NK border.  Mostly there to keep the NK people in NK during this mess, I imagine they're also there to push into NK if it looks like SK is going to try push into NK from the south.

China will not allow a united Korea under American patronage.
 
2013-04-05 06:56:40 PM  

fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.


What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?
 
2013-04-05 06:58:40 PM  
f.kulfoto.com

/mama grizzly has spoken!
 
2013-04-05 06:58:48 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?


Lunch deliveries
 
2013-04-05 06:59:01 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?


I have wondered the same thing.
 
2013-04-05 06:59:09 PM  
Eh, I think at this stage of the game we'll take any common ground we can find.
 
2013-04-05 06:59:27 PM  
Chinese officials most certainly do not refer to King Jong as "Fatty", regardless of their feelings about his recent antics.  I can't find a link right now but I'm pretty sure exactly one Chinese news outlet ran a story referring to Kim Jong in that manner and the author of the story was suspended as a result.

Also, the linked article specifically states that "ordinary Chinese" use the phrase, not officials. So, good job all around there, Subby and Telegraph et al.
 
2013-04-05 07:00:07 PM  

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!


40 year old American road iron and they don't even blink at what that says about them as a nation.
 
2013-04-05 07:00:40 PM  

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!


Man, even the cars have cool hats!
 
2013-04-05 07:05:49 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Danger Avoid Death:

How to you say "Fark" in Chinese?

Falk?


You're going to Hell for that one.  I'll save you a seat.  I laughed.
 
2013-04-05 07:07:47 PM  
fatty turds can be a sign of a serious medical problem
 
2013-04-05 07:08:21 PM  
fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?


So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.


/And I'm not just talkin pixels.
 
2013-04-05 07:09:11 PM  

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!



That is one sweet ride
 
2013-04-05 07:13:29 PM  
Subby: How friendly is the relationship between China and Best Korea right now? Well, when Chinese officials refer to Kim Jong-Un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty The Third", what does that tell you?

FTFA: "Certainly North Korea no longer merits much respect among ordinary Chinese, who have taken to insulting Kim Jong-un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty the Third", in reference to his father and grandfather, on the Chinese internet."

Dear Submittard, you fail at life. Get off the Internet, and learn to read before you come back.
 
2013-04-05 07:14:05 PM  

A Shambling Mound: Chinese officials most certainly do not refer to King Jong as "Fatty", regardless of their feelings about his recent antics.  I can't find a link right now but I'm pretty sure exactly one Chinese news outlet ran a story referring to Kim Jong in that manner and the author of the story was suspended as a result.

Also, the linked article specifically states that "ordinary Chinese" use the phrase, not officials. So, good job all around there, Subby and Telegraph et al.


Someone seems...............upset.
 
2013-04-05 07:18:39 PM  

fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.


www.washingtonpost.com

/NK navy laughs at your shanagians
 
2013-04-05 07:22:25 PM  

medius: fatty turds can be a sign of a serious medical problem


My seven year old nephew told me that if your turds float, you have too much fat in your diet. Since then, I have to check. Every time.

/good so far
 
2013-04-05 07:22:38 PM  
justwilliam1959.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-05 07:23:22 PM  

SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.


Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

images.plus613.net

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.
 
2013-04-05 07:24:55 PM  
But as The New Yorker pointed out, China will support North Korea no matter what it does because it doesn't want to see a situation where the United States or South Korea are occupying North Korea. This pretty much gives North Korea cover to do whatever they want.
 
2013-04-05 07:25:42 PM  

fusillade762: SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

[images.plus613.net image 800x452]

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.


You guys have never seen flair before?
 
2013-04-05 07:26:49 PM  
fta: Certainly North Korea no longer merits much respect among ordinary Chinese, who have taken to insulting Kim Jong-un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty the Third", in reference to his father and grandfather, on the Chinese internet.


I'm c
urious as to when ordinary Chinese had any modicum of respect toward DPRK in the last several decades?  I've lived in China for a few years and even went to the DPRK/China border area.  I didn't exactly take a poll and the topic didn't come up too often, but the impression I got from Chinese friends and coworkers was that the North Koreans were at best, misguided and sort of to be pitied (being they are so poor) and at worst, totally nuts and silly for not opening up to the West.   Some friends thought it was amusing to see some of the pics of North Korea as it reminded them of the Cultural Revolution or China pre-1980.

I don't think any of them were at all keen about going to war and ruining their own economy for the sake of some crazy foreign Stalinist state.
 
2013-04-05 07:27:30 PM  
Maybe it means they think of him as a giant joint.
 
2013-04-05 07:28:18 PM  

pxlboy: Lt. Cheese Weasel: fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

I have wondered the same thing.


if they are similiar to the then-soviets in the style of awards then they'll hand out multiple instances of the same award and they just put the same ribbon/badge on their uniform over and over again.
 
2013-04-05 07:33:35 PM  

Infernalist: There was a report not so long ago that stated that the Chinese had massed a number of troops on the northern NK border.  Mostly there to keep the NK people in NK during this mess, I imagine they're also there to push into NK if it looks like SK is going to try push into NK from the south.

China will not allow a united Korea under American patronage.


No doubt.  This only underscores my point; that North Korea is China's bastard and they need to discipline their unruly child.
 
2013-04-05 07:36:17 PM  
SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

http://images.plus613.net/images/29900/www_plus613_com_skoreyabig.jpg " width="800" height="452">

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.



that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop.  However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.
 
2013-04-05 07:36:31 PM  
Didn't we do this before?
 
2013-04-05 07:37:33 PM  

CaptSacto: fusillade762: SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

[images.plus613.net image 800x452]

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.

You guys have never seen flair before?


/Approves!
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-05 07:38:17 PM  

SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.


After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..
 
2013-04-05 07:38:27 PM  
If the Chinese use the North Koreans to draw in our naval and other assets, we might be subject to a nasty little escalation with a quick surprise.

Maybe the North Koreans aren't the only bad guys in this. If we're convinced we're going to be fighting a backward, low-tech country and position our forces accordingly, then all of a sudden...
 
2013-04-05 07:46:48 PM  
If this ever did happen, it would be kind of scary because it would mean North Korea isn't listening to anybody.  You want there to be somone who can call them and tell them to put down the lighter fluid.
 
2013-04-05 07:47:01 PM  

fusillade762: vernonFL:

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.



Let Me Clear My Throat...
 
2013-04-05 07:47:15 PM  

Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..


They might take his DNA and make a clone called  Little Kim.
 
2013-04-05 07:47:48 PM  
Somaticasual: After the mortar round execution, I think its fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level.  I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new laid hidden in a volcano.


I think when his regime collapses one way or the other, we're in for some very interesting stories. Real Caligula/Dr. No stuff.  I'm looking forward to the HBO series on "The KIms".
 
2013-04-05 07:48:41 PM  
It seems we have a lot more in common with China than I thought we did.
 
2013-04-05 07:48:51 PM  

Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..


What is this... I don't even...

Seems like a very wasteful way to execute someone.
 
2013-04-05 07:49:08 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: If the Chinese use the North Koreans to draw in our naval and other assets, we might be subject to a nasty little escalation with a quick surprise.

Maybe the North Koreans aren't the only bad guys in this. If we're convinced we're going to be fighting a backward, low-tech country and position our forces accordingly, then all of a sudden...


China stands absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose in an open conflict with the Us even if they were successful in an east Asia theater campaign.
 
2013-04-05 07:49:28 PM  
WhoopAssWayne:

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

40 year old American road iron and they don't even blink at what that says about them as a nation.


Hey now! Having owned and restored over 6 tons of 40 year old American road iron, I'd say this is one place where I'd agree with the North Koreans.
 
2013-04-05 07:49:32 PM  

rockforever: Why do people think the Chinese are allied to NKorea?
.


Because China has a defense pact treaty with them?
 
2013-04-05 07:50:14 PM  

Mantour: [f.kulfoto.com image 500x423]

/mama grizzly has spoken!


I can picture her saying something like that.
 
2013-04-05 07:50:24 PM  

Treygreen13: Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..

What is this... I don't even...

Seems like a very wasteful way to execute someone.


YOU ASSHORES!  I EXPLESSRY SAID 'EXTINCT VOCRANO!!'
 
2013-04-05 07:50:25 PM  
If I go to work for the North Koreans can I have my own secret lair in a dead volcano?

ooooo! AND a trained army of female kung-fu killers?

'cause that might be worth it

/really really likes kim-chee

yes, I will work for spoiled cabbage. what of it?
 
2013-04-05 07:52:45 PM  
wtf is a 'vocrano'?

/smack
 
2013-04-05 07:53:10 PM  

fusillade762: SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

[images.plus613.net image 800x452]

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.


Those aren't medals. Those are dress shurikens.
 
2013-04-05 07:54:41 PM  
What we should do is load a catapult with those chocopie things and shoot them at North Korea and see what happens.

"The American's are shooting food at us comrade Kim."

"What kind?"

"Chocopies."

"Well hell, bring me some; and tell the Americans that we know they aren't serious because they aren't shooting pizzas at us."
 
2013-04-05 07:55:26 PM  

maxheck: WhoopAssWayne:

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

40 year old American road iron and they don't even blink at what that says about them as a nation.

Hey now! Having owned and restored over 6 tons of 40 year old American road iron, I'd say this is one place where I'd agree with the North Koreans.


What is that, like one car?
 
2013-04-05 07:56:21 PM  
Latinwolf:

Mantour: [f.kulfoto.com image 500x423]

/mama grizzly has spoken!

I can picture her saying something like that.


She came pretty close
 
2013-04-05 07:58:48 PM  

Treygreen13: Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..

What is this... I don't even...

Seems like a very wasteful way to execute someone.


Apparently Ol' Un had an army minister executed for basically partying during the mourning period for his father. They had the guy stand on a spot zero'd in for a mortar round. Wasteful, maybe, but it definitely reeks of that level of diabolical maniac
 
2013-04-05 08:00:55 PM  

thamike: He fixes the cable?


Log jammin.
 
2013-04-05 08:00:56 PM  
Bisu:

maxheck: WhoopAssWayne:

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

40 year old American road iron and they don't even blink at what that says about them as a nation.

Hey now! Having owned and restored over 6 tons of 40 year old American road iron, I'd say this is one place where I'd agree with the North Koreans.

What is that, like one car?


3 actually... So maybe closer to 10 tons. ('66 Coupe de Ville, '69 Fleetwood 75 limo, '71 Sedan de Ville)
 
2013-04-05 08:01:16 PM  

maxheck: Hey now! Having owned and restored over 6 tons of 40 year old American road iron, I'd say this is one place where I'd agree with the North Koreans.


Niiice, wish I had dem skills.
 
2013-04-05 08:04:00 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Yeah.

Good cop. Bad cop.

When the Chi-coms put a bullet in the back of the head of a political prisoner, harvest his organs and sell his body so it can be displayed in "science" museums around the world, well, that political prisoner had it coming.

Just remember who the party is that's selling us melamine-laced foods, "farm" raised fish from sewers, etc.

The Communist Chinese love North Korea. Best Korea makes them look real good to the West.



THIS
But wait, there's more
No matter which century it is
The Han have always ruled in both countries.
To China, this is the little brother Han, acting up again.
They take a long view on Korea, all of Korea.
 
2013-04-05 08:10:44 PM  

jaylectricity: brantgoose: (not the twilighty show with the sparkly vampires who mope about like emos, the old one).

Why couldn't you just say The Twilight Zone and save yourself a whole sentence?


He's a bad man and I'm going to send him to the cornfield.
 
2013-04-05 08:12:51 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Yeah.

Good cop. Bad cop.

When the Chi-coms put a bullet in the back of the head of a political prisoner, harvest his organs and sell his body so it can be displayed in "science" museums around the world, well, that political prisoner had it coming.

Just remember who the party is that's selling us melamine-laced foods, "farm" raised fish from sewers, etc.

The Communist Chinese love North Korea. Best Korea makes them look real good to the West.


There are plenty of reasons the Chinese have been patient with North Korea. Part of it is certainly the fact that North Korea takes some attention away from China's human rights practices. Some of it probably is a nostalgic desire to support one of the last "communist" countries in the region. Some of it comes from a desire to avoid a unified Korea with strong ties to the US.

In the end, though, China has been working damn hard to join the modern world. At some point China is going to pull on North Korea's leash hard, because regional stability is in China's interest and North Korea has become a huge destabilizing factor.
 
2013-04-05 08:14:01 PM  
Behold the power of Kim Jong Pie!
 
2013-04-05 08:14:13 PM  

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!


www.godlikeproductions.com
 
2013-04-05 08:16:23 PM  

doyner: Infernalist: There was a report not so long ago that stated that the Chinese had massed a number of troops on the northern NK border.  Mostly there to keep the NK people in NK during this mess, I imagine they're also there to push into NK if it looks like SK is going to try push into NK from the south.

China will not allow a united Korea under American patronage.

No doubt.  This only underscores my point; that North Korea is China's bastard and they need to discipline their unruly child.


Yeah, that's kinda my thought. The Chinese might move south to stop the North Koreans from moving too close to their border when the shiat hits the fan.
 
2013-04-05 08:20:50 PM  
This time is definitely different.  Ordinarily, NK acts up, China sends some diplomats and NK lists their demands.  This time, NK asked China to send an envoy and China told them to pound sand.
 
2013-04-05 08:24:02 PM  
Nice custom Continental. Suppose he's got an El Dorado too?
 
2013-04-05 08:24:16 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Danger Avoid Death: scottydoesntknow: You had me going there subby. Officials aren't at the name calling stage yet. The general Chinese populace has been calling him that pretty much since the day he took over.

How to you say "Fark" in Chinese?

Falk?


Just one more thing...
 
2013-04-05 08:26:57 PM  
One of the wonders of Fark.... I didn't know until googling around in relation to this thread, but evidently Chiang Kai-Shek was big on vintage Cadillacs.

Seriously... Google "chiang kai-shek cadillac" without the quotes.

Still doesn't have anything on the Cambodian royal hearses:

i45.tinypic.com

"I'll take Asian megalomaniacs pimp-mobiles for $5000, Alex."
 
2013-04-05 08:29:56 PM  

doyner: Great.  They use pejorative names to describe the Kim Jongs.  How about, instead, they put their bastard child back in the box?  "Best" Korea is China's legacy; they're the ones that need to deal with it.  If it weren't for them, they'd have a stable, unified, thriving capitalist Korean peninsula with which to trade and make more money today.

Instead, they've let this boil on the ass of humanity fester.


Alternate reality: China takes over North Korea. America protests "China is demonstrating their expansionist goals and Communist disdain for national independence by overthrowing a regime that had not directly threatened them."

You can't have it both ways, you know. If you want China to step in, you'd have to rewind 60 years of America shrieking "COMMUNIST AGGRESSION" and finger-pointing every time China or Russia even looked at another country. One reason we HAVE  a North and South Korea is because America chose not to listen in 1950 when China said "stay out of North Korea, please" and MacArthur said "I don't listen to dirty Commies." So today, China is understandably wary of sending anyone in to fix North Korea, on account of what happened last time.
 
2013-04-05 08:42:25 PM  
The Telegraph realizes that the stuff it's citing isn't much different than a site like Fark, right?

\Grass mud horse covers the middle.
\\Look it up.
 
2013-04-05 08:48:02 PM  

rockforever: Why do people think the Chinese are allied to NKorea?

North Korea is a mess waiting to happen, China knows that once the shiat hits the fan they'll be the ones having to clean it up.

If the US wants the Chinese to help stop Nkorea the US needs to pledge to take care of millions of refugees, otherwise the Chinese know it will be there problem.


Cause a unified Korea puts a strong US nuclear presence at China's doorstep.
 
2013-04-05 08:49:51 PM  
We need to collectively, as a nation, say in one loud voice to our leaders, proudly, here and now; Do not bomb the classic cars!
 
2013-04-05 08:50:41 PM  

Gyrfalcon: doyner: Great.  They use pejorative names to describe the Kim Jongs.  How about, instead, they put their bastard child back in the box?  "Best" Korea is China's legacy; they're the ones that need to deal with it.  If it weren't for them, they'd have a stable, unified, thriving capitalist Korean peninsula with which to trade and make more money today.

Instead, they've let this boil on the ass of humanity fester.

Alternate reality: China takes over North Korea. America protests "China is demonstrating their expansionist goals and Communist disdain for national independence by overthrowing a regime that had not directly threatened them."

You can't have it both ways, you know. If you want China to step in, you'd have to rewind 60 years of America shrieking "COMMUNIST AGGRESSION" and finger-pointing every time China or Russia even looked at another country. One reason we HAVE  a North and South Korea is because America chose not to listen in 1950 when China said "stay out of North Korea, please" and MacArthur said "I don't listen to dirty Commies." So today, China is understandably wary of sending anyone in to fix North Korea, on account of what happened last time.


That was a national embarrassment--a breakdown of our command structure.  We've learned since then and so have the Chinese.  I doubt very seriously that we'd make much of a stink if China invaded and used some equivalent of the Bush doctrine as justification; claiming they were "liberating" the Best Koreans from a brutal dictatorship.
 
2013-04-05 08:51:02 PM  

fusillade762: SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

[images.plus613.net image 800x452]

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.

 
There for having sex with fearless leader.
 
2013-04-05 09:01:16 PM  
doyner:  That was a national embarrassment--a breakdown of our command structure.  We've learned since then and so have the Chinese.  I doubt very seriously that we'd make much of a stink if China invaded and used some equivalent of the Bush doctrine as justification; claiming they were "liberating" the Best Koreans from a brutal dictatorship.

Also, the global trade situation is completely different now.  China is our largest consumer of most of our agricultural products, while we are the biggest buyer of their manufactured items.  Any stoppage of trade between the two countries would immediately throw both into a depression.
 
2013-04-05 09:05:59 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!


That is one sweet ride


As long as you're in the front seat and not laying down in the back.
 
2013-04-05 09:11:10 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: doyner:  That was a national embarrassment--a breakdown of our command structure.  We've learned since then and so have the Chinese.  I doubt very seriously that we'd make much of a stink if China invaded and used some equivalent of the Bush doctrine as justification; claiming they were "liberating" the Best Koreans from a brutal dictatorship.

Also, the global trade situation is completely different now.  China is our largest consumer of most of our agricultural products, while we are the biggest buyer of their manufactured items.  Any stoppage of trade between the two countries would immediately throw both into a depression.


That may be...but saying "Oh, things are different now" didn't stop us from going into Iraq and making a huge clusterf*ck of the whole thing, did it? Just like we did in Vietnam, and for exactly the same reason. So China staying out of Korea can only be...because things are NOT different now, and they know it.
 
2013-04-05 09:12:46 PM  
I'm surprised that they don't refer to it as "East China" (yet).
 
2013-04-05 09:15:44 PM  

ImperialHazman: Nice custom Continental. Suppose he's got an El Dorado too?


Yes.  But what you really have to watch out for is the .32 gun, pocket full of fun and a razor in his shoe.
 
2013-04-05 09:24:43 PM  

vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!


That puppy looks a bit out of camber.
 
2013-04-05 09:31:47 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: doyner:  That was a national embarrassment--a breakdown of our command structure.  We've learned since then and so have the Chinese.  I doubt very seriously that we'd make much of a stink if China invaded and used some equivalent of the Bush doctrine as justification; claiming they were "liberating" the Best Koreans from a brutal dictatorship.

Also, the global trade situation is completely different now.  China is our largest consumer of most of our agricultural products, while we are the biggest buyer of their manufactured items.  Any stoppage of trade between the two countries would immediately throw both into a depression.

That may be...but saying "Oh, things are different now" didn't stop us from going into Iraq and making a huge clusterf*ck of the whole thing, did it? Just like we did in Vietnam, and for exactly the same reason. So China staying out of Korea can only be...because things are NOT different now, and they know it.


Iraq was a pariah among nations.  Their lack of economic ties to most of the world is precisely why it was so easy to invade, politically speaking.  They had no financial friends to speak up for them.  No one had anything to lose from Iraq's government going into the toilet, aside from a few embarrassed sanctions-dodgers.

And Vietnam has nothing in common with NK aside from the fact that they're both SE Asian nations.

And to reiterate...China will never...ever...allow Korea to be a united country under American patronage.

Ever.

We're allies, but they're not 'that' good of allies.
 
2013-04-05 09:37:27 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: doyner:  That was a national embarrassment--a breakdown of our command structure.  We've learned since then and so have the Chinese.  I doubt very seriously that we'd make much of a stink if China invaded and used some equivalent of the Bush doctrine as justification; claiming they were "liberating" the Best Koreans from a brutal dictatorship.

Also, the global trade situation is completely different now.  China is our largest consumer of most of our agricultural products, while we are the biggest buyer of their manufactured items.  Any stoppage of trade between the two countries would immediately throw both into a depression.

That may be...but saying "Oh, things are different now" didn't stop us from going into Iraq and making a huge clusterf*ck of the whole thing, did it? Just like we did in Vietnam, and for exactly the same reason. So China staying out of Korea can only be...because things are NOT different now, and they know it.


Neither Iraq nor Vietnam were even blips on the radar in terms of trade with the US.  Hundreds of billions would be lost by the 0.1% wealthiest people in the world if the US and China broke off trade.
 
2013-04-05 10:07:24 PM  
Well, he IS fat.
 
2013-04-05 10:23:12 PM  
And he always has a blank look on his face.  There's no way that anyone that fat, stupid (and probably drunk) is in charge.  His uncle must be calling the shots.  He's acting as a sort of regent.
 
2013-04-05 10:27:09 PM  
Obliterate someone with a mortar round.

Not as stylish as dropping someone into a piranha tank
 
2013-04-05 10:31:38 PM  

theotherles: Obliterate someone with a mortar round.

Not as stylish as dropping someone into a piranha tank


But was it an ill-tempered mortar round?
 
2013-04-05 10:32:04 PM  

kevinfra: North Korea is like the nere-do well brother in law that's sleeping on China's couch.  He is loud, spends their money, won't get a job and leaves a mess in the kitchen and the living room.  China would love to get rid of him, but can't.


add a bad hacking cough and a meth habit and you might be on to something.
 
2013-04-05 10:36:05 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Also, the global trade situation is completely different now. China is our largest consumer of most of our agricultural products, while we are the biggest buyer of their manufactured items.


The US doesn't really have much in the way of exports, and is primarily an importer. Anything China gets from the US would be a small percentage of what it gets from everywhere.

If trade between the two ceased it would hurt the US far more. Practically every US business relies on cheap things made in China, but China can always just sell that stuff to another country. Sure, China might make a little less for awhile, but the US economy would be absolutely destroyed.
 
2013-04-05 10:42:54 PM  

Mantour: fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.



/NK navy laughs at your shanagians


6? That estimate sounds very conservative for what you could fit in a 70s lincoln. Hell you could put 6 in the damned trunk. Especially petitie asian girls.
 
2013-04-05 10:43:18 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Also, the global trade situation is completely different now. China is our largest consumer of most of our agricultural products, while we are the biggest buyer of their manufactured items.

The US doesn't really have much in the way of exports, and is primarily an importer. Anything China gets from the US would be a small percentage of what it gets from everywhere.

If trade between the two ceased it would hurt the US far more. Practically every US business relies on cheap things made in China, but China can always just sell that stuff to another country. Sure, China might make a little less for awhile, but the US economy would be absolutely destroyed.


Not much in the way of exports...Really?

http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_us_exports.html
 
2013-04-05 10:46:27 PM  

fusillade762: SirEattonHogg: fusillade762

What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?

So, I'm no expert on North Korean uniforms, but having watched plenty of clips of DPRK generals and officers, that picture looks like some kind of BS photoshop.  Sure, some countries love to go nuts with the military decorations but medals on their pants and all along their sleeves?  Yeah right.

/And I'm not just talkin pixels.

Ah, it appears you are correct. Here's the original.

[images.plus613.net image 800x452]

That's still a lot of medals for people who have probably never seen combat.


NK did shell a SK village a year or two ago.  And peasants never stay oppressed - those prison camps don't run themselves.
 
2013-04-05 10:48:29 PM  

sloshed_again: Somaticasual: SirEattonHogg: that is indeed a lot of medals even without photoshop. However, having read a little bit about North Korean history (I recommend "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader"), with all its purges of its ranking officials, you probably deserve a medal for each year you managed to avoid being thrown into a gulag or being put in front of a firing squad.

After the mortar round execution, I think it's fair to say they're working towards "supervillain" level. I half-way expect to hear about kim jong un's new lair hidden in a volcano..

They might take his DNA and make a clone called  Little Kim.


xca.xanga.com
 
2013-04-05 10:55:03 PM  

Infernalist: J. Frank Parnell: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Also, the global trade situation is completely different now. China is our largest consumer of most of our agricultural products, while we are the biggest buyer of their manufactured items.

The US doesn't really have much in the way of exports, and is primarily an importer. Anything China gets from the US would be a small percentage of what it gets from everywhere.

If trade between the two ceased it would hurt the US far more. Practically every US business relies on cheap things made in China, but China can always just sell that stuff to another country. Sure, China might make a little less for awhile, but the US economy would be absolutely destroyed.

Not much in the way of exports...Really?

http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_us_exports.html


Yeah, that's one of the weirder comments I've ever seen on Fark.  We're the largest exporter in the world of many agricultural products, with China being a primary customer.
 
2013-04-05 10:57:53 PM  

Infernalist: Not much in the way of exports...Really?


I never said it had no exports. Just that there's significantly more importing.

And the major thing is manufacturing. What the US exports are mainly raw materials, but it imports most of its manufactured items. If it suddenly didn't have China to manufacture things cheaply it wouldn't recover quickly, if at all.
 
2013-04-05 11:04:55 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: 
The US doesn't really have much in the way of exports, and is primarily an importer.



J. Frank Parnell: Infernalist: Not much in the way of exports...Really?

I never said it had no exports. Just that there's significantly more importing.

And the major thing is manufacturing. What the US exports are mainly raw materials, but it imports most of its manufactured items. If it suddenly didn't have China to manufacture things cheaply it wouldn't recover quickly, if at all.


I think you may well need to get examined for memory issues.  You may have a leak.

And the slightest glance at the link I've already provided shows that the US exports mostly Machines, oil, air craft, electronics, medical equipment, pharmaceuticals, organic chemicals, plastics.

NONE OF WHICH ARE RAW MATERIALS.  Are you dense?  Go and READ and educate yourself before you throw out plainly bad information.
 
2013-04-05 11:07:27 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Infernalist: Not much in the way of exports...Really?

I never said it had no exports. Just that there's significantly more importing.

And the major thing is manufacturing. What the US exports are mainly raw materials, but it imports most of its manufactured items. If it suddenly didn't have China to manufacture things cheaply it wouldn't recover quickly, if at all.


Not currently -having- a net manufacturing base does not equate to an inability to restart one.
Losing China would hurt for awhile, and prices on consumer goods would surge, but in-borders manufacturing would increase, much of the produce we currently get from China can be gotten from Brazil, low end manufactured goods would still come from Mexico, Thailand and India (and perhaps even eventually cheaper than China), high-end goods from Japan, South Korea and *Taiwan.

*..now depending -how- bad things got with China, the Taiwan situation would be.. interesting.
 
2013-04-05 11:31:28 PM  

Infernalist: Go and READ and educate yourself before you throw out plainly bad information.


As you type on a keyboard made in China, looking at a screen made in China, wearing clothes made in China, sitting in a chair made in China, with maybe a TV on in the background made in China, and a cellphone nearby made in China. (don't bother clarifying it's a wooden chair your grandpa made or something, i think you get my point).

The US is dependent on Chinese goods. There's no denying that. But China isn't dependent on the US for anything. Everything it gets from the US it could easily get somewhere else at the same prices. That was my main point.
 
2013-04-05 11:37:18 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Infernalist: Go and READ and educate yourself before you throw out plainly bad information.

As you type on a keyboard made in China, looking at a screen made in China, wearing clothes made in China, sitting in a chair made in China, with maybe a TV on in the background made in China, and a cellphone nearby made in China. (don't bother clarifying it's a wooden chair your grandpa made or something, i think you get my point).

The US is dependent on Chinese goods. There's no denying that. But China isn't dependent on the US for anything. Everything it gets from the US it could easily get somewhere else at the same prices. That was my main point.


Completely irrelevant to your ridiculously erroneous statements regarding the status of the US in regards to exports.

The rest of your thinking is highly speculative, and based on pretty shaky assumptions, as well.  I'm going to simply lol in your general direction and slip out of this wet mess of a discussion and pray that you take 10 minutes to educate yourself in the basics of a discussion before engaging the loose nut between your Chinese made keyboard and your Chinese made chair.
 
2013-04-05 11:41:49 PM  

Infernalist: Completely irrelevant to your ridiculously erroneous statements regarding the status of the US in regards to exports.


That was just a detail you decided to pick at. Not my main point, which you seem to be avoiding.
 
2013-04-05 11:49:21 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Gyrfalcon: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: doyner:  That was a national embarrassment--a breakdown of our command structure.  We've learned since then and so have the Chinese.  I doubt very seriously that we'd make much of a stink if China invaded and used some equivalent of the Bush doctrine as justification; claiming they were "liberating" the Best Koreans from a brutal dictatorship.

Also, the global trade situation is completely different now.  China is our largest consumer of most of our agricultural products, while we are the biggest buyer of their manufactured items.  Any stoppage of trade between the two countries would immediately throw both into a depression.

That may be...but saying "Oh, things are different now" didn't stop us from going into Iraq and making a huge clusterf*ck of the whole thing, did it? Just like we did in Vietnam, and for exactly the same reason. So China staying out of Korea can only be...because things are NOT different now, and they know it.

Neither Iraq nor Vietnam were even blips on the radar in terms of trade with the US.  Hundreds of billions would be lost by the 0.1% wealthiest people in the world if the US and China broke off trade.


Yeah yeah yeah. There are always a million reasons why this scenario is ever so different from the last four thousand times it didn't work, or why we'd be okay if China/Russia/space aliens intervened this time; a thousand variations on "we've learned our lessons" except that we haven't. Saying "Too many people would lose money" is just a gloss on any of those myriad variations.

If it was a bad idea for us to go into Iraq, it is a bad idea for China to go into Korea. If it is a good idea for China to go into Korea, then it was a good thing we went into Iraq; for all the same reasons and with the same ultimate results.
 
2013-04-05 11:56:13 PM  
s15.postimg.org
 
2013-04-06 12:00:18 AM  
North Korea is best compared to the brother "Allen" on 2 1/2 men...the brother who mooches off the other brother and can't or won't get a home of his own...North Korea is trying to mooch off others without changing its behavior.
 
2013-04-06 12:04:51 AM  
Fatty Kim may have some screws loose up there but I don't think he is suicidal. Even he must know any actual shooting on his part will culminate in the destruction of his regime if not his own life and his family's nevermind the entire country. Last I check he has a wife and daughter and while the rest of Korea may not have access to world news even he must know what happened to folks like Saddam, OBL, Ghadafi etc to name a few.

I'm beginning to wonder if he is seeking some sort of an out. I mean this guy grew up in a very sheltered lifestyle and spent his most formative years living in Western Europe, going to the most exclusive schools there and living a lavished lifestyle there. Then his dad suddenly dies and he is thrust into a position he may not really want to be in. Perhaps by making all this ruckus, in his own distorted mind he is thinking that some sort of a deal can be cut where he can relinquish his position and live somewhere else as some reclusive billionaire BUT achieving it by also appearing as some sort of a strong anti western hero who stood up against the mighty and tyrannical US to the eyes of the average N Korean to preserve his legacy and his family's.

While he maybe the ruler of NK I'm sure his life is very regimented and scripted. He is probably being watch 24/7 by people closest to him.. it's not easy for him to secretly meet some spies/CIA types etc to discuss his intentions nor can he just hope on a plane and say see ya! w/o totally destroying his credibility. Unlike 99.9% of N Koreans he is most definitely NOT brainwashed. Crazy maybe but not brainwashed.

If he hates Americans as much as people think he does he MOST definitely won't meet someone like Dennis Rodman and his entourage of all people.

Anyway just my 2 c.
 
2013-04-06 12:16:57 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: Infernalist: Not much in the way of exports...Really?

I never said it had no exports. Just that there's significantly more importing.

And the major thing is manufacturing. What the US exports are mainly raw materials, but it imports most of its manufactured items. If it suddenly didn't have China to manufacture things cheaply it wouldn't recover quickly, if at all.


As someone who is sitting here right this very instant, monitoring machines that basically make the stupid chips in your stupid iphones, I have a lot of eggs in this here Korea basket.  I really, REALLY hope this is all just BS and Seoul will be untouched or else I think I'll be out of a job very quick.

I think we could start manufacturing just fine if we had to.  We've got the facilities for the worlds two top chip makers right here.  Hell I'm at one right now.  Just bring assembly here.  You want a job? Here, put this stupid iPhones together.

Or something.
 
2013-04-06 12:16:58 AM  
s7.postimg.org
 
2013-04-06 12:18:15 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: What I can't figure out is, wtf are all these generals and stooges all decorated for?  You know, wtf did they DO to get all those flashy ribbons and twizzlers and fizzbangers on their unis?


I've always assumed those medals are for quelling food riots, rounding up dissenters and generally oppressing the populace. I can't think of any way they could earn so many unless they're participation medals for various war games.
 
2013-04-06 12:22:01 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-06 12:33:13 AM  

sloshed_again: Didn't we do this before?


Yeah, but Hollywood is itchin' to do a M*A*S*H* reboot.
 
2013-04-06 12:35:51 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: Infernalist: Go and READ and educate yourself before you throw out plainly bad information.

As you type on a keyboard made in China, looking at a screen made in China, wearing clothes made in China, sitting in a chair made in China, with maybe a TV on in the background made in China, and a cellphone nearby made in China. (don't bother clarifying it's a wooden chair your grandpa made or something, i think you get my point).

The US is dependent on Chinese goods. There's no denying that. But China isn't dependent on the US for anything. Everything it gets from the US it could easily get somewhere else at the same prices. That was my main point.


So, submit to China, eat your pets, and report your Grandpa if he makes too much of a fuss?
 
2013-04-06 12:38:06 AM  
PS:

J. Frank Parnell:  But China isn't dependent on the US for anything

Well, there is the fact that if the US stopped paying it's debts, China would collapse like Pee Wee Herman in a fight with Ken Shamrock.
 
2013-04-06 01:20:14 AM  

TV's Vinnie: PS:

J. Frank Parnell:  But China isn't dependent on the US for anything

Well, there is the fact that if the US stopped paying it's debts, China would collapse like Pee Wee Herman in a fight with Ken Shamrock.


Not sure about that. China holds about $1.2 trillion of US debt. They're GDP is about $7.3 trillion. I think they'd survive.
 
2013-04-06 01:33:32 AM  

fusillade762: TV's Vinnie: PS:

J. Frank Parnell:  But China isn't dependent on the US for anything

Well, there is the fact that if the US stopped paying it's debts, China would collapse like Pee Wee Herman in a fight with Ken Shamrock.

Not sure about that. China holds about $1.2 trillion of US debt. They're GDP is about $7.3 trillion. I think they'd survive.


Our economy can take a pounding.  The dot com bubble, the housing bubble, the entire mess from 2008-present...We can take a pounding.

The Chinese economy is as shaky as a house of cards.  They're literally sustaining their high GDP and growth by building empty ghost 'cities' spread across the interior.  No one to live in them, no one to buy them, no jobs there, no actual communities there, but they keep building them because it generates high growth across those important sectors that people pay attention to.

One push and it's going to collapse in on itself in a major way.  They NEED stability in the global economy far more than anyone else at this point and that means the U.S. economy needs to stay stable for 'their' sake as much as ours.
 
2013-04-06 01:56:51 AM  

fusillade762: TV's Vinnie: PS:

J. Frank Parnell:  But China isn't dependent on the US for anything

Well, there is the fact that if the US stopped paying it's debts, China would collapse like Pee Wee Herman in a fight with Ken Shamrock.

Not sure about that. China holds about $1.2 trillion of US debt. They're GDP is about $7.3 trillion. I think they'd survive.


Is that why China is desperately building one empty city after another, just to keep their bubble from going POP?
 
2013-04-06 02:08:22 AM  
you know who's really behind all this? ya'll are getting played like mah jong

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-06 02:08:23 AM  
www.shirinsadeghi.com
 
2013-04-06 04:28:24 AM  
Subby: Chinese officials refer to Kim Jong-Un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty The Third", what does that tell you?

The article: Certainly North Korea no longer merits much respect among ordinary Chinese, who have taken to insulting Kim Jong-un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty the Third", in reference to his father and grandfather, on the Chinese internet.

Now I understand the greenlight
 
2013-04-06 05:38:31 AM  
is it just me? I feel like i'm 17 again with a really hot chick in the backseat whose teasing the hell out of me. she knows I want it bad, I know she wants it too. but she got to save it! come on NK! you want to fail a virgin? don't leave us with red, white, and blue balls again. LETS GET IT ON!
 
2013-04-06 07:50:38 AM  

gweilo8888: Subby: How friendly is the relationship between China and Best Korea right now? Well, when Chinese officials refer to Kim Jong-Un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty The Third", what does that tell you?

FTFA: "Certainly North Korea no longer merits much respect among ordinary Chinese, who have taken to insulting Kim Jong-un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty the Third", in reference to his father and grandfather, on the Chinese internet."

Dear Submittard, you fail at life. Get off the Internet, and learn to read before you come back.


You sound Best Fat
 
2013-04-06 08:44:27 AM  

Mixolydian Master: Subby: Chinese officials refer to Kim Jong-Un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty The Third", what does that tell you?

The article: Certainly North Korea no longer merits much respect among ordinary Chinese, who have taken to insulting Kim Jong-un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty the Third", in reference to his father and grandfather, on the Chinese internet.

Now I understand the greenlight


How is there "Chinese internet"? Isn't the internet by definition ALL the networks connected? Or do they just mean Chinese-language internet sites? Yes I realize that Chinese is not a language I meant the variety of languages and dialects spoken by Chinese people.
 
2013-04-06 09:01:59 AM  

gul_jay: [i.imgur.com image 850x480]


What the...how could you...why? Why show anyone that?
 
2013-04-06 09:39:03 AM  

Infernalist: The Chinese economy is as shaky as a house of cards. They're literally sustaining their high GDP and growth by building empty ghost 'cities' spread across the interior. No one to live in them, no one to buy them, no jobs there, no actual communities there, but they keep building them because it generates high growth across those important sectors that people pay attention to.


That and it's kind of the CCP's strategy to avoid another Tienanmen Square incident.  Economic growth and prosperity keep the people happy and not wanting democracy or social unrest.  The Chinese government values a stable society very highly.

They're doing whatever it takes to make their people happy enough to not revolt, and that means relative wealth.  The ghost cities are make-work projects to create the illusion of economic prosperity.  It's really the same old command-style economy of a socialist state, acting as a capitalist facade to provide the western-style pleasures the people want. China doesn't want to upset that balance, because they know in the long term without it they're facing a revolution themselves.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
 
2013-04-06 12:44:27 PM  

nakedcritic: You sound Best Fat


So you're the submittard, then.
 
2013-04-06 12:44:42 PM  
TV's Vinnie:So, submit to China, eat your pets, and report your Grandpa if he makes too much of a fuss?

Wait, I thought it was report your pets...

Well, it's going to be a bit awkward when I visit grandma this afternoon.
 
2013-04-06 12:58:43 PM  

gweilo8888: nakedcritic: You sound Best Fat

So you're the submittard, then.


Not even close, White Ghost
 
2013-04-06 02:02:57 PM  

Gyrfalcon: If it was a bad idea for us to go into Iraq, it is a bad idea for China to go into Korea. If it is a good idea for China to go into Korea, then it was a good thing we went into Iraq; for all the same reasons and with the same ultimate results.


I never said it was good for us to go into Iraq.  I'm saying that the bullshiat reasons we used are a genie that's out of its bottle.
 
2013-04-06 02:26:50 PM  

ransack.: How is there "Chinese internet"?


China's kindof a special case as far as the web is concerned. Their web is an extremely filtered, extremely monitored version that complies with china's official censorship policies, and may not even mention some disputed territories. However, there's a cottage industry of VPN users dedicated to getting around it, so it's kindof a cat and mouse game as well.
 
2013-04-06 02:29:43 PM  

ransack.: Mixolydian Master: Subby: Chinese officials refer to Kim Jong-Un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty The Third", what does that tell you?

The article: Certainly North Korea no longer merits much respect among ordinary Chinese, who have taken to insulting Kim Jong-un as "Fatty Kim" or "Fatty the Third", in reference to his father and grandfather, on the Chinese internet.

Now I understand the greenlight

How is there "Chinese internet"? Isn't the internet by definition ALL the networks connected? Or do they just mean Chinese-language internet sites? Yes I realize that Chinese is not a language I meant the variety of languages and dialects spoken by Chinese people.


Followup. Holy crap, it looks like the chinese "rules for the internet" would basically remove the entire internet as far as fark's concerned. Here are the rules via wiki:

No unit or individual may use the Internet to create, replicate, retrieve, or transmit the following kinds of information:
Inciting to resist or breaking the Constitution or laws or the implementation of administrative regulations;Inciting to overthrow the government or the socialist system;Inciting division of the country, harming national unification;Inciting hatred or discrimination among nationalities or harming the unity of the nationalities;Making falsehoods or distorting the truth, spreading rumors, destroying the order of society;Promoting feudal superstitions, sexually suggestive material, gambling, violence, murder;Terrorism or inciting others to criminal activity; openly insulting other people or distorting the truth to slander people;Injuring the reputation of state organizations;Other activities against the Constitution, laws or administrative regulations.[14]
Fark would never make it past 5...
 
2013-04-06 06:20:14 PM  

Somaticasual: ransack.: How is there "Chinese internet"?

China's kindof a special case as far as the web is concerned. Their web is an extremely filtered, extremely monitored version that complies with china's official censorship policies, and may not even mention some disputed territories. However, there's a cottage industry of VPN users dedicated to getting around it, so it's kindof a cat and mouse game as well.


The Great Firewall of China.
 
2013-04-07 10:24:51 AM  

Oldiron_79: Mantour: fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.

/NK navy laughs at your shanagians

6? That estimate sounds very conservative for what you could fit in a 70s lincoln. Hell you could put 6 in the damned trunk. Especially petitie asian girls.


It's a Beastie Boys reference.
 
2013-04-07 01:33:49 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Fatty Kim may have some screws loose up there but I don't think he is suicidal. Even he must know any actual shooting on his part will culminate in the destruction of his regime if not his own life and his family's nevermind the entire country. Last I check he has a wife and daughter and while the rest of Korea may not have access to world news even he must know what happened to folks like Saddam, OBL, Ghadafi etc to name a few.

I'm beginning to wonder if he is seeking some sort of an out. I mean this guy grew up in a very sheltered lifestyle and spent his most formative years living in Western Europe, going to the most exclusive schools there and living a lavished lifestyle there. Then his dad suddenly dies and he is thrust into a position he may not really want to be in. Perhaps by making all this ruckus, in his own distorted mind he is thinking that some sort of a deal can be cut where he can relinquish his position and live somewhere else as some reclusive billionaire BUT achieving it by also appearing as some sort of a strong anti western hero who stood up against the mighty and tyrannical US to the eyes of the average N Korean to preserve his legacy and his family's.

While he maybe the ruler of NK I'm sure his life is very regimented and scripted. He is probably being watch 24/7 by people closest to him.. it's not easy for him to secretly meet some spies/CIA types etc to discuss his intentions nor can he just hope on a plane and say see ya! w/o totally destroying his credibility. Unlike 99.9% of N Koreans he is most definitely NOT brainwashed. Crazy maybe but not brainwashed.

If he hates Americans as much as people think he does he MOST definitely won't meet someone like Dennis Rodman and his entourage of all people.

Anyway just my 2 c.


That's my completely crackpot theory as well, he wants to be "bought out" of leadership:

What's the point of being God-Emperor of a shiathole that can barely keep the electricity on?

What's stopping him are the generals and money, they are fairly well off since the whole country works for their care basically.  If Daddy Kim had swiss bank accounts he could dissolve the state via war and take it all for himself and bribe the elite guard to not kill him.

Then he lives the rest of his life in Switzerland with his cute wife playing Starcraft.

/ Would make a good Bond film
 
2013-04-07 04:46:29 PM  

jaylectricity: Oldiron_79: Mantour: fusillade762: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 386x480]


vernonFL: [graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x319]

One cool thing about North Korea, the vintage cars.

I like the '71 Lincoln Continental Hearse!

I hear you can fit six girlies in one of those.

/NK navy laughs at your shanagians

6? That estimate sounds very conservative for what you could fit in a 70s lincoln. Hell you could put 6 in the damned trunk. Especially petitie asian girls.

It's a Beastie Boys reference.


Well you are referencing beastie boys, Im referencing my expertise in dead hooker storage.
 
2013-04-07 09:36:54 PM  

Oldiron_79: Well you are referencing beastie boys, Im referencing my expertise in dead hooker storage.


Well played.
 
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