FARK.com: (7685036) With 2 more Democrat Senators coming out in favor of gay marriage, we're down to a Final Four who haven't come out in favor: Mark Pryor (D-AR), Joe Manchin (D-WV), Tim Johnson (D-SD), and Mary Landrieu (D-LA). Who will be the last to fall?

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		With 2 more Democrat Senators coming out in favor of gay marriage, we're down to a Final Four who haven't come out in favor: Mark Pryor (D-AR), Joe Manchin (D-WV), Tim Johnson (D-SD), and Mary Landrieu (D-LA). Who will be the last to fall? (dish.andrewsullivan.com)		99
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DamnYankees		2013-04-05 03:34:18 PM

I say Pryor. Just a feeling.

James!		2013-04-05 03:40:29 PM

My money is on the guy from Arkansas as well.

GAT_00		2013-04-05 03:41:46 PM

DamnYankees: I say Pryor. Just a feeling.

Pryor or Manchin.

RobertBruce		2013-04-05 03:49:07 PM

Arkansas for sure.

Dr Dreidel		2013-04-05 03:50:58 PM

Manchin: 3-1
Pryor: 5-1
Johnson: 10-1

And just for funsies:
Paul: 420-1
Kyl: 666-1
McConnell: 9,086,509,846,798,476,046,706-1
Lindsay Graham: cha-chee-cha-1
Corker: potato-1

GAT_00		2013-04-05 03:55:46 PM

Dr Dreidel: Manchin: 3-1
Pryor: 5-1
Johnson: 10-1

And just for funsies:
Paul: 420-1
Kyl: 666-1
McConnell: 9,086,509,846,798,476,046,706-1
Lindsay Graham: cha-chee-cha-1
Corker: potato-1

I think Bachmann is the potato-1 odds, though she might be forced to admit she's already gay married first.

brownribbon		2013-04-05 03:58:18 PM

GAT_00: DamnYankees: I say Pryor. Just a feeling.

Pryor or Manchin.

Yep.

Dr Dreidel		2013-04-05 03:59:18 PM

GAT_00: I think Bachmann is the potato-1 odds, though she might be forced to admit she's already gay married first.

We're talking about the Senate, pal. Talk about potato...

// I had a whole list of House odds - Barton, Bachmann, Broun...
// even Reps whose last names don't start with B would have been ridiculed

markie_farkie		2013-04-05 04:06:33 PM

Mark Pryor and Joe Manchin sound like gay pr0n names..

Tom_Slick		2013-04-05 04:56:59 PM

markie_farkie: Mark Pryor and Joe Manchin sound like gay pr0n names..

And Tim Johnson doesn't?

scottydoesntknow		2013-04-05 04:58:25 PM

Was Johnson the one that said he knows his son is gay, but still doesn't think they should be allowed to get married?

I'd put my money on him.

whither_apophis		2013-04-05 04:59:29 PM

Dr Dreidel: Manchin: 3-1
Pryor: 5-1
Johnson: 10-1

And just for funsies:
Paul: 420-1
Kyl: 666-1
McConnell: 9,086,509,846,798,476,046,706-1
Lindsay Graham: cha-chee-cha-1
Corker: potato-1

I can see a republican doing a fruedian slip and outing himself.

/the lesbians GOP are too cagey

Nabb1		2013-04-05 05:07:47 PM

Landrieu is just waiting for the check to clear.

markie_farkie		2013-04-05 05:11:01 PM

Tom_Slick: And Tim Johnson doesn't?

Only if his nickname is Twink.

unlikely		2013-04-05 05:26:39 PM

My bet's on Pryor

Lionel Mandrake		2013-04-05 05:28:56 PM

The question is whether the four will be on record before Republican #2 speaks up.

DamnYankees		2013-04-05 05:31:56 PM

Lionel Mandrake: The question is whether the four will be on record before Republican #2 speaks up.

That's already happened. Mark Kirk came out in favor this week.

Tom_Slick		2013-04-05 05:35:01 PM

Lionel Mandrake: The question is whether the four will be on record before Republican #2 speaks up.

There are already 2 Mark Kirk Illinois and Rob Portman Ohio

Stone Meadow		2013-04-05 05:45:30 PM

Meh, they're all hanging on until SCOTUS makes it the law of the land.

Carth		2013-04-05 05:45:31 PM

I know some senators have been outed but has anyone ever run as an openly gay candidate and won a Senate seat?

Serious Black		2013-04-05 05:46:51 PM

I'd put my money on Manchin, though only because I think Mark Pryor is not guaranteed to be re-elected in 2014. Manchin doesn't face election until 2018.

Serious Black		2013-04-05 05:47:27 PM

Carth: I know some senators have been outed but has anyone ever run as an openly gay candidate and won a Senate seat?

Tammy Baldwin?

Carth		2013-04-05 05:48:25 PM

Serious Black: Carth: I know some senators have been outed but has anyone ever run as an openly gay candidate and won a Senate seat?

Tammy Baldwin?

Yup, you're right. Thank you

DamnYankees		2013-04-05 05:49:29 PM

Serious Black: Carth: I know some senators have been outed but has anyone ever run as an openly gay candidate and won a Senate seat?

Tammy Baldwin?

Ya she was the first.

Virulency		2013-04-05 05:50:10 PM

GAT_00: Dr Dreidel: Manchin: 3-1
Pryor: 5-1
Johnson: 10-1

And just for funsies:
Paul: 420-1
Kyl: 666-1
McConnell: 9,086,509,846,798,476,046,706-1
Lindsay Graham: cha-chee-cha-1
Corker: potato-1

I think Bachmann is the potato-1 odds, though she might be forced to admit she's already gay married first.

LOL.... guess she should be fully supportive of marrying gays...

rahpower		2013-04-05 05:51:03 PM

Dr Dreidel:
And just for funsies:

Kyl: 666-1

Kyl retired from the Senate.

balloot		2013-04-05 05:52:42 PM

GAT_00: Dr Dreidel: Manchin: 3-1
Pryor: 5-1
Johnson: 10-1

And just for funsies:
Paul: 420-1
Kyl: 666-1
McConnell: 9,086,509,846,798,476,046,706-1
Lindsay Graham: cha-chee-cha-1
Corker: potato-1

I think Bachmann is the potato-1 odds, though she might be forced to admit she's already gay married first.

I would expect Bachmann to have some sympathy around the issue, given that her husband is gay.

Tarl3k		2013-04-05 05:58:25 PM

DamnYankees: I say Pryor. Just a feeling.

Yup

MJMaloney187		2013-04-05 05:58:26 PM

What exactly are the gays fighting for? What do they want? I know they want to get married, but why? For the federal benefits? I personally don't care if a couple of gay postal servers get married. I just wonderhow the military will regulate this new Civil Right.

Mary Landrieu is going to be a tough nut to crack. Louisiana is extremely Catholic. Not intolerant, mind you, just extremely Catholic.

thamike		2013-04-05 06:00:14 PM

Mark has priors, Joe's into man chin, Tim tweets pictures of his Johnson, and you don't even want to know what a Landrieu is.

DamnYankees		2013-04-05 06:00:21 PM

MJMaloney187: Mary Landrieu is going to be a tough nut to crack. Louisiana is extremely Catholic. Not intolerant, mind you, just extremely Catholic.

There's a good argument Landrieu already came out in support of it. Cyrptically, but she did.

eddiesocket		2013-04-05 06:01:02 PM

Given the deep dark crimson red states they represent, it seems highly unlikely that any of them will do the right thing.

Aexia		2013-04-05 06:01:15 PM

MJMaloney187: What exactly are the gays fighting for? What do they want? I know they want to get married, but why? For the federal benefits?

A partial list.

eddiesocket		2013-04-05 06:03:51 PM

MJMaloney187: What exactly are the gays fighting for? What do they want? I know they want to get married, but why? For the federal benefits?

I'm guessing individual gay couples' reasons for wanting to get married are as varied as straight couples. Of course, straight couples don't get concernedquestions from strangers on the internet regarding their life choices.

Fjornir		2013-04-05 06:08:13 PM

Fall?

SN1987a goes boom		2013-04-05 06:09:32 PM

Johnson will be the last to pull out.

Summoner101		2013-04-05 06:13:23 PM

The sad part is that the party of "small government" is the one NOT leading the charge on this issue

/there's a reason I put small government in quotes

Ima10urin8		2013-04-05 06:18:04 PM

who really cares?

marry a fence post for all I care

as long as it doesn't cost me money, what the fark to i care.

gay divorce shows would be wild

Hollie Maea		2013-04-05 06:21:41 PM

I get that a liberal couldn't get elected in West Virginia, but honestly the only "benefit" that the Democratic Party gets from having Manchin around is that it lets Republicans say "There was BIPARTISAN opposition to such and such a bill".

BSABSVR		2013-04-05 06:22:39 PM

Ima10urin8: who really cares?

marry a fence post for all I care

as long as it doesn't cost me money, what the fark to i care.

gay divorce shows would be wild

You mentioned you don't care three times in a 4 line post. That you took the time to write to show how much you don't care. After you read an article about something you allege that you don't care about.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke		2013-04-05 06:24:09 PM

Hollie Maea		2013-04-05 06:25:53 PM

Ima10urin8: who really cares?

marry a fence post for all I care

as long as it doesn't cost me money, what the fark to i care.

gay divorce shows would be wild

It will be the Lazy Libertarianism of the current generation that finally gives equality to gays. It's nice that a good result will be forthcoming, but honestly "who gives a shiat" is a pretty terrible stance to have on just about any issue.

soaboutthat		2013-04-05 06:31:05 PM

MJMaloney187: What exactly are the gays fighting for? What do they want? I know they want to get married, but why? For the federal benefits? I personally don't care if a couple of gay postal servers get married. I just wonderhow the military will regulate this new Civil Right.

Mary Landrieu is going to be a tough nut to crack. Louisiana is extremely Catholic. Not intolerant, mind you, just extremely Catholic.

Two points, Landrieu said she had evolved on the issue but respects the vote of her state.

And, why the hell would the military regulate this any different than straight marriages? How the hell is it any different than marrying someone of the opposite sex when providing dependent benefits?

when I was in the Marines, if I had gotten married, I would have gotten BAH and food money to live off base and my spouse would have gotten a dependent ID and the benefits. What the hell difference would have made if my spouse's sex was male or female?

/not a damn difference

theknuckler_33		2013-04-05 06:38:21 PM

I just feel good about the fact that 49 dems, 2 'independents', and 2 repubs give the issue a 53-47 majority in the Senate. No excuses for past behaviour, but being the witness of a turn of the tide is rewarding. I'm glad to be alive right now.

Lionel Mandrake		2013-04-05 06:49:06 PM

DamnYankees: Lionel Mandrake: The question is whether the four will be on record before Republican #2 speaks up.

That's already happened. Mark Kirk came out in favor this week.

y'know, I think I heard about that but thought he was in the House of Reps...

anyway, good for him!

eddiesocket		2013-04-05 06:51:37 PM

Lionel Mandrake: DamnYankees: Lionel Mandrake: The question is whether the four will be on record before Republican #2 speaks up.

That's already happened. Mark Kirk came out in favor this week.

y'know, I think I heard about that but thought he was in the House of Reps...

anyway, good for him!

Susan Collins of Maine will no doubt be Republican #3 any day now.

Marcus Aurelius		2013-04-05 06:53:07 PM

My money is on West Virginia.

electronicmaji		2013-04-05 06:58:46 PM

Pryor is likely the LAST person to come out unless he's come to accept that he's probably going to loose reelection and just decides he wants to go all out.

Prosperity for America has been running ads against him since the beginning of the year, for a reelection that is in november of 2014 against Pryor. And they have been running quite a bit. At least 4-5 times a day in my casual viewing experience.

They are farking stupid.

Marcus Aurelius		2013-04-05 07:00:22 PM

Hollie Maea: Ima10urin8: who really cares?

marry a fence post for all I care

as long as it doesn't cost me money, what the fark to i care.

gay divorce shows would be wild

It will be the Lazy Libertarianism of the current generation that finally gives equality to gays. It's nice that a good result will be forthcoming, but honestly "who gives a shiat" is a pretty terrible stance to have on just about any issue.

When it comes to gay marriage, trust me, for the vast majority of ordinary Americans, this is not an "issue".

Equal protection under the law is enshrined in the Constitution. Anyone that says otherwise is itching for a fight.

ravenlore		2013-04-05 07:01:58 PM

I know @SenJohnsonSDisn't going to care about one pissed off former constituent but by the gods I'm going to tweet this shiat multiple times a day.

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