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(IGN)   Wii U version of Aliens: Colonial Marines gets tossed out the airlock   (ign.com) divider line 70
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2013-04-05 03:21:05 PM
GAME OVER MAN
 
2013-04-05 03:27:10 PM
Wasn't that one of the big titles that Wii U promoted prior to launch? Man, Sega/Gearbox really farked up the whole thing.

When the UK advertising board forced them to add disclaimers to all of their demo vidoes/trailers saying this does not reflect the actual product, you know it was gonna be bad.

Ohh well, that'll teach them to push out a crappy product in hopes of banking on the franchise name alone.

/Had that on pre-order
//Cancelled it on release day when the flood of bad reviews came out
 
2013-04-05 03:40:33 PM
I need to fire up this movie again. It is one of my favorites.
 
2013-04-05 03:50:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: Wasn't that one of the big titles that Wii U promoted prior to launch? Man, Sega/Gearbox really farked up the whole thing.


Yeah. They even had a demo running on Wii U's (Wii's U?) at E3 last year. It actually looked pretty good, too.

Man. Pooches were screwed pretty much across-the-board on this entire title.
 
2013-04-05 04:01:43 PM
Rumor has it that the Wii U kept shutting down any time the Marines talked to each other for more than a minute.

/Alpha Lima 4 4 2 this is Charlie Baker Taco Dildos 69, this situation is toilet fubars, over.
//Poor Wii U just wanted it to end.
 
2013-04-05 04:37:07 PM
Too bad the other versions weren't tossed out also.
 
2013-04-05 04:37:44 PM
Nuke it from orbit.
 
2013-04-05 04:38:54 PM
That's good news...for Wii U owners.  I still can't believe that Gearbox hasn't issued any kind of apology over the absolutely abysmal state of that game.  Hard to believe the same company could put out something like BL 2.
 
2013-04-05 04:45:30 PM

scottydoesntknow: Wasn't that one of the big titles that Wii U promoted prior to launch? Man, Sega/Gearbox really farked up the whole thing.

When the UK advertising board forced them to add disclaimers to all of their demo vidoes/trailers saying this does not reflect the actual product, you know it was gonna be bad.


Well the ruling says they have to say doesn't look like the final product...most demos look worse so unless you follow this whole saga you might think, "Wow, it looks great here, how much better must the real game look".

That'll be a rude shock.
 
2013-04-05 04:45:44 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: That's good news...for Wii U owners.  I still can't believe that Gearbox hasn't issued any kind of apology over the absolutely abysmal state of that game.  Hard to believe the same company could put out something like BL 2.


They were able to put out BL 2 because they took all the money and development time that Sega paid them for A:CM and slipped it over to their pet project. Im more surprised they havent been sued rather than anything else.
 
2013-04-05 04:47:22 PM
And not a single frak was given that day.

Seriously, it was one of the worst bait and switches I can think of from a major company in game development.  The demos, videos, etc all looked very solid, but what they shipped was nothing like them.  And they knew it, for months, and refused to disclose that.
 
2013-04-05 04:49:49 PM

Antimatter: And not a single frak was given that day.

Seriously, it was one of the worst bait and switches I can think of from a major company in game development.  The demos, videos, etc all looked very solid, but what they shipped was nothing like them.  And they knew it, for months, and refused to disclose that.


Pretty much. There was an article on Kotaku about whether A:CM or that new Walking Dead game was the worst game of 2013 so far. They gave it to A:CM because no one expected The Walking Dead game to actually be good, whereas everyone thought (through commercials/demos/trailers/etc.) that A:CM would be pretty damn good.
 
2013-04-05 05:06:52 PM
But the fan will be really disappointed!
 
2013-04-05 05:09:01 PM

Arkanaut: Nuke it from orbit.


It was the only way to be sure, like movies 3 - whatever, a severe disappointment.
 
2013-04-05 05:09:42 PM
So nothing of value is lost?
 
2013-04-05 05:14:20 PM
The predator themed first installment of the franchise was terrible.  Visually, it looked very good.  Gameplay was awful.  I didn't hold out any hope for the planned expansions.  When Colonial Marines came out, I was amazed at how many people were excited for it.  Then it, too, turned out to be a big turd.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, why would anyone even  want this title on Wii U?
 
2013-04-05 05:23:52 PM
This will just save some ill-informed Wii U owners their money.
 
2013-04-05 05:29:44 PM
Thanks, OBAMA!
 
2013-04-05 05:30:15 PM

Subtle_Canary: They were able to put out BL 2 because they took all the money and development time that Sega paid them for A:CM and slipped it over to their pet project. Im more surprised they havent been sued rather than anything else.


Kind of hard to sue when they actually deliver a deliverable.  It's not like there's some sort of spec for shiatty gaming.  Sega's biggest mistake was trusting a studio they couldn't control, which is precisely the business hazard of outsourcing.  The decision was perhaps understandable as Gearbox has made some good games, but the problem for Gearbox now is that this money laundering scam only works once.  Their name should be completely toxic in the industry, meaning their capital should rapidly dry up in an era when making games is very expensive.  Who's to say the next time they want to raise money for an announced project, they won't take it and run off to make something else?
 
2013-04-05 05:37:14 PM

Supes: This will just save some ill-informed Wii U owners their money.


Good for those two.
 
2013-04-05 05:44:25 PM
And nothing of value was lost
 
2013-04-05 05:44:48 PM

dragonchild: Subtle_Canary: They were able to put out BL 2 because they took all the money and development time that Sega paid them for A:CM and slipped it over to their pet project. Im more surprised they havent been sued rather than anything else.

Kind of hard to sue when they actually deliver a deliverable.  It's not like there's some sort of spec for shiatty gaming.  Sega's biggest mistake was trusting a studio they couldn't control, which is precisely the business hazard of outsourcing.  The decision was perhaps understandable as Gearbox has made some good games, but the problem for Gearbox now is that this money laundering scam only works once.  Their name should be completely toxic in the industry, meaning their capital should rapidly dry up in an era when making games is very expensive.  Who's to say the next time they want to raise money for an announced project, they won't take it and run off to make something else?


Which completely sucks because there are some VERY creative people in that company.  Just my opinion but I think Pitchford has an over inflated sense of what he can accomplish.  This is the guy who while still developing A:CM and starting on BL2 bought Duke Nukem and commited resources to finishing it.  Depending on what you read it was just before or after that when Aliens got outsourced to Timegate and the true clusterfark in all its glory began.
 
2013-04-05 05:56:33 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: That's good news...for Wii U owners.  I still can't believe that Gearbox hasn't issued any kind of apology over the absolutely abysmal state of that game.  Hard to believe the same company could put out something like BL 2.


Unfortunately fanboi culture still rules the forums.  Jump over to the A:CM section of the Gearbox forums and see how all the threads calling out for some sort of explanation have been buried under a tide of "It's not really that bad a game".  As long as there are morons who will defend any turd that gets pushed out the door no game developer will ever apologize for it.  Hell just look at the people who are still sticking up for The War Z.
 
2013-04-05 05:58:33 PM

Flappyhead: Well I use Mac/Linux...: That's good news...for Wii U owners.  I still can't believe that Gearbox hasn't issued any kind of apology over the absolutely abysmal state of that game.  Hard to believe the same company could put out something like BL 2.

Unfortunately fanboi culture still rules the forums.  Jump over to the A:CM section of the Gearbox forums and see how all the threads calling out for some sort of explanation have been buried under a tide of "It's not really that bad a game".  As long as there are morons who will defend any turd that gets pushed out the door no game developer will ever apologize for it.  Hell just look at the people who are still sticking up for The War Z.


Or Simcity.
 
2013-04-05 06:02:31 PM
I sold my Wii-U.. Worst, and shortest investment I've ever made in 36 years of my miserable life.. I tried liking it.. I tried really hard but it's as if Nintendo purposely tries to make it underwhelming and boring. Because that's what it is overall..  Not worth $400 for Mario Bros and an eventual Zelda game.
 
2013-04-05 06:05:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGXDM3LGnk

I think this video shines some light on the cluster fark that was this game.

How the HELL does a video game get WORSE during development time?
 
2013-04-05 06:22:39 PM

Flappyhead: Hell just look at the people who are still sticking up for The War Z.


The War Z is so bad it's gone meta.  I was reading up on new tablets on a tech forum a few days ago and someone had a line, "This is The War Z of tablets."

/csb
 
2013-04-05 06:40:44 PM

Alebak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGXDM3LGnk

I think this video shines some light on the cluster fark that was this game.

How the HELL does a video game get WORSE during development time?


You outsource it to other studios with less of a budget, so you can spend the time and money Sega paid YOU on your overrated pet project.
 
2013-04-05 07:23:52 PM

Alebak: I think this video shines some light on the cluster fark that was this game.

How the HELL does a video game get WORSE during development time?


I am wondering if they were forced to downgrade the max quality so that it could run on the Wii U without looking like absolute ass in comparison to the other systems.  You know that somewhere there is a design team that is just full of rage over what happened to their game.
 
2013-04-05 07:31:06 PM

The WindowLicker: Alebak: I think this video shines some light on the cluster fark that was this game.

How the HELL does a video game get WORSE during development time?

I am wondering if they were forced to downgrade the max quality so that it could run on the Wii U without looking like absolute ass in comparison to the other systems.  You know that somewhere there is a design team that is just full of rage over what happened to their game.


Well it's been claimed that the actual game itself was crammed together and shipped within 9 months.  It's also been alleged that it wasn't even PS3 compatible until just prior to release.  Cobbling together various stories and at least one Reddit thread paints a picture of a barely half finished game that was rushed out so Gearbox could avoid a breach of contract lawsuit.  I'm not at all shocked that a system it wasn't even originally designed for had major compatibility issues.
 
2013-04-05 08:07:49 PM

styckx: I sold my Wii-U.. Worst, and shortest investment I've ever made in 36 years of my miserable life.. I tried liking it.. I tried really hard but it's as if Nintendo purposely tries to make it underwhelming and boring. Because that's what it is overall..  Not worth $400 for Mario Bros and an eventual Zelda game.


What about Bayonetta 2?

/never buy a console until a couple of years after it comes out, the price will be reduced and it will start having good games made for it.
 
2013-04-05 08:23:09 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: styckx: I sold my Wii-U.. Worst, and shortest investment I've ever made in 36 years of my miserable life.. I tried liking it.. I tried really hard but it's as if Nintendo purposely tries to make it underwhelming and boring. Because that's what it is overall..  Not worth $400 for Mario Bros and an eventual Zelda game.

What about Bayonetta 2?

/never buy a console until a couple of years after it comes out, the price will be reduced and it will start having good games made for it.


Dunno, I bought my Wii (first gen) and 360 right off and I've gotten a ton of use out of those.  Of course the Wii had some great launch titles (Zelda springs to mind) and was cheap as hell comparatively, and later in life I found out how easy it is to give it an external hard drive, a modded OS and a ton of games on disk.  My 360... I won't lie, I basically bought it for Dead Rising and one or two other games, but it works surprisingly well as a media player without any modding.  That more than anything is what I keep it around for these days: streaming media, or playing discs full of AVIs (50 years of Doctor Who anyone?)
 
2013-04-05 08:39:08 PM

Flappyhead: Unfortunately fanboi culture still rules the forums. Jump over to the A:CM section of the Gearbox forums and see how all the threads calling out for some sort of explanation have been buried under a tide of "It's not really that bad a game".


Who's to say?  Spamming one's own forums is hardly a new trick.
 
2013-04-05 08:55:37 PM

The WindowLicker: Alebak: I think this video shines some light on the cluster fark that was this game.

How the HELL does a video game get WORSE during development time?

I am wondering if they were forced to downgrade the max quality so that it could run on the Wii U without looking like absolute ass in comparison to the other systems.  You know that somewhere there is a design team that is just full of rage over what happened to their game.


People feel the need to justify their bad purchases. Nobody likes to be thought of as an idiot.

On the other hand, every 'bad' game has a few people who like it, and there's nothing wrong with that. Maybe game xyz was the one you really liked and all your friends didn't. So what? At the end of the day, video games are an art form, and while there are bugs and such that can make the game impossible to play 'properly', the game is a set of aesthetics that will appeal to someone.
 
2013-04-05 08:57:28 PM

starsrift: On the other hand, every 'bad' game has a few people who like it, and there's nothing wrong with that. Maybe game xyz was the one you really liked and all your friends didn't. So what? At the end of the day, video games are an art form, and while there are bugs and such that can make the game impossible to play 'properly', the game is a set of aesthetics that will appeal to someone.


That was wierd. I meant to quote Flappyhead:
 
2013-04-05 09:28:36 PM
The whole decision to nerf the aliens was stupid.  What they should have done was be more innovative and make it so the first phase of the game is pretty easy but you're fighting say mercenary security forces hired by Weyland to cover up the mess.  You go through them easily and it gives you time to master the squad system, combat mechanics etc.  Plus you start to bond with your squad mates or at least give half a shiat about them.

Then the aliens come and start gutting your little CGI buddies.  What would have been cool is if they didn't have scripted depth.  As in there is a way for all of you to survive until the end and dialog for all of them up until the game, however you need near superhuman reflexes to achieve this.  Instead make the game about the slow attrition of your squad by an unstoppable force and you gain bragging rights by how many people you keep alive or even just how long you kept people alive.  Something like the metric is "You beat the game with one squad mate alive and the other ones lived for an average of 1 hour and 45 minutes.  Try to do better on your replay."  To win all you need to do is get your meat sack across the finish line, but make the achievements how long you keep the other Marines in the game.
 
2013-04-05 09:57:45 PM
starsrift:

People feel the need to justify their bad purchases. Nobody likes to be thought of as an idiot.

On the other hand, every 'bad' game has a few people who like it, and there's nothing wrong with that. Maybe game xyz was the one you really liked and all your friends didn't. So what? At the end of the day, video games are an art form, and while there are bugs and such that can make the game impossible to play 'properly', the game is a set of aesthetics that will appeal to someone.


This is true and I have no problem with that.  People are entitled to their own opinions and honestly I don't care what games people like and don't like.  However in this case we're talking about a game where the studio flat out lied to the fanbase, and I'm not just talking about the E3 video.  Gearbox hyped this game for almost a year as though it was an in-house project when in fact they had outsourced it almost two years earlier.  They presented it as though it was a "passion project" and in the end all they were responsible for was putting the final product together in a rush job to avoid getting sued.  Whether or not people like the game for whatever reason is irrelevant, Gearbox bullsh*ted it's customers, and that is easily the primary source of outrage.
 
2013-04-05 10:16:48 PM
At least I won't be tempted to buy it if I saw it on the clearance rack.  Sad though...could've had some potential.
 
2013-04-05 10:49:13 PM
Wii U got the definitive version after all.
 
2013-04-05 11:06:11 PM

Masso: Wii U got the definitive version after all.


The only winning move is not to play.
 
2013-04-05 11:27:00 PM
SEGA's money funded Borderlands franchise

Because my submission of this was rejected a long time ago, and it bears repeating.

Don't get me wrong; I love me some Borderlands.  But, when you consider how big a budget that game was, coming from a fairly unknown studio, it all makes perfect sense.
 
2013-04-05 11:31:12 PM

Flappyhead: starsrift:

People feel the need to justify their bad purchases. Nobody likes to be thought of as an idiot.

On the other hand, every 'bad' game has a few people who like it, and there's nothing wrong with that. Maybe game xyz was the one you really liked and all your friends didn't. So what? At the end of the day, video games are an art form, and while there are bugs and such that can make the game impossible to play 'properly', the game is a set of aesthetics that will appeal to someone.

This is true and I have no problem with that.  People are entitled to their own opinions and honestly I don't care what games people like and don't like.  However in this case we're talking about a game where the studio flat out lied to the fanbase, and I'm not just talking about the E3 video.  Gearbox hyped this game for almost a year as though it was an in-house project when in fact they had outsourced it almost two years earlier.  They presented it as though it was a "passion project" and in the end all they were responsible for was putting the final product together in a rush job to avoid getting sued.  Whether or not people like the game for whatever reason is irrelevant, Gearbox bullsh*ted it's customers, and that is easily the primary source of outrage.


In other words, don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining.

To further agree with your point, there are some games that are absolutely filled with bugs that I still adore.  Both Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas are pretty much bug-riddled, but still widely regarded as high-quality AAA titles.  I personally enjoy both games in the True Crime series, not just in spite of the bugs but many times BECAUSE of the bugs.  Bugs != bad game.  A game is made bad based solely on its own merit, and A:CM has "bad" in spades.
 
2013-04-05 11:53:42 PM

yukichigai: To further agree with your point, there are some games that are absolutely filled with bugs that I still adore. Both Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas are pretty much bug-riddled, but still widely regarded as high-quality AAA titles. I personally enjoy both games in the True Crime series, not just in spite of the bugs but many times BECAUSE of the bugs. Bugs != bad game. A game is made bad based solely on its own merit, and A:CM has "bad" in spades.


I'd like to add an amendment to that.  Bugs != bad game UNLESS the bugs make the game unplayable.  This actually ruined New Vegas for me, only because the game kept freezing like crazy on my save file (stupid PS3 version).
 
2013-04-06 12:28:36 AM

dragonchild: Flappyhead: Unfortunately fanboi culture still rules the forums. Jump over to the A:CM section of the Gearbox forums and see how all the threads calling out for some sort of explanation have been buried under a tide of "It's not really that bad a game".

Who's to say?  Spamming one's own forums is hardly a new trick.


This.  Publishers and developers are probably employing forum trolls to spin their products.  Flame anyone who complains about a game and flat out lie about it's quality.
 
2013-04-06 01:02:17 AM

RedPhoenix122: This actually ruined New Vegas for me, only because the game kept freezing like crazy on my save file (stupid PS3 version).


Try disabling auto save if you haven't already. I found that helped and managed to get the platinum trophy (not really bragging, just trying to give you an idea of how much more tolerable it was after that). But once you've gone to the divide it seems to get even worse. Your mileage may vary.
 
2013-04-06 01:15:06 AM
My family only buys one or two games a year because $60 is a shiatonne of money.  Aliens Colonial Marines for XB 360 was my son's Christmas present.

Thanks Gearbox. You made my son cry with that POS.
 
2013-04-06 02:01:13 AM
SEGA DREAMCAST....

(cept Nintendo has the money to weather one huge failure)
 
2013-04-06 02:30:16 AM
Q: Why does anyone still care about Sega? Sure they used to be a powerhouse, but they haven't made/published anything worth a damn in more than a decade. A whole new generation of gamers are probably looking at us old timers wondering why we even turn our heads at this second rate company,

/after the Conduit, I'm more likely to buy an EA game than a Sega game
 
2013-04-06 02:54:03 AM

styckx: I sold my Wii-U.. Worst, and shortest investment I've ever made in 36 years of my miserable life.. I tried liking it.. I tried really hard but it's as if Nintendo purposely tries to make it underwhelming and boring. Because that's what it is overall..  Not worth $400 for Mario Bros and an eventual Zelda game.


For future reference, perhaps you shouldn't drop $400+ on anything if you have no long term desire for it.

Especially for a video game console if it doesn't immediately have games that have your attention. You have no one to blame but yourself on that one.
 
2013-04-06 04:05:45 AM

paulleah: My family only buys one or two games a year because $60 is a shiatonne of money.  Aliens Colonial Marines for XB 360 was my son's Christmas present.

Thanks Gearbox. You made my son cry with that POS.


This is why you should be a smart consumer and read reviews and whatnot before just buying a product.


Anyway, waaay off topic, I am surprised there isn't a thread about the new MMORPG available on PC, 360 and PS3, Defiance. Figured it would have been a bigger thing, but I guess not...
 
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