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2013-04-05 05:17:57 PM  

sjmcc13: dv-ous: sjmcc13: Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,

You know a lot of high school dropouts who are in the habit of making a lot of sense? Because I sure don't.

I know a people who were forced to drop out for economic/family reasons. I also do not limit my social interacitons to only my age group.
plus you do not need to be

in the habit of makign allot of sense to be right on that one issue, especially if it is something you deal with on a regular basis.

ftfm
 
2013-04-05 05:35:16 PM  
This brave patriot is just asking questions and Fark just wants him to die in a fire.  Well don't let me stop your typical hate-filled circlejerk, lieberals.
 
2013-04-05 05:41:14 PM  

sjmcc13: I also do not limit my social interacitons to only my age group.


www.troll.me
 
2013-04-05 05:46:11 PM  

sjmcc13: Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave

I am Dysgraphic, and the spell checker does not work on my browser. Plus I just do not care any more, this is not work or school, and fixing the errors is not worth the effort.

Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,


Fair enough, I'm willing to let it go since your consistency lends your explanation credibility.  I'm not in the habit of picking on people for circumstances beyond their control.  Carry on and have a nice day.
 
2013-04-05 05:47:13 PM  

D135: This brave patriot is just asking questions and Fark just wants him to die in a fire.  Well don't let me stop your typical hate-filled circlejerk, lieberals.


I'll assume you're trolling, because we here at Fark don't say "die in a fire".  We're rather more succinct.
+ 1 derp to you.
 
2013-04-05 05:51:54 PM  

poot_rootbeer: bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.

How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"


From the order:
Plaintiff STRUNK's complaint is a rambling, forty-five page variation on "birther"cases, containing 150 prolix paragraphs, in at times a stream of consciousness. Plaintiff's central allegation is that defendants President OBAMA and Senator McCAIN, despite not being "natural born" citizens of the United States according to plaintiff's interpretation of Article II, Section 1, [*2]Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, engaged with the assistance of other defendants in an extensive conspiracy, on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church to defraud the American people and usurp control of the Presidency in 2008. Most of plaintiff STRUNK's complaint is a lengthy, vitriolic, baseless diatribe against defendants, but most especially against the Vatican, the Roman Catholic Church, and particularly the Society of Jesus (the Jesuit Order).
Plaintiff STRUNK alleges seven causes of action: breach of state constitutional fiduciary duty by the NEW YORK STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS and public officer defendants; denial of equal protection for voter expectation of a correct ballot; denial of substantive due process for voter expectation of a correct ballot; interference with the right to a republican form of government by the two Jesuit defendants and defendant F.A.O. SCHWARZ, JR., who were all members of the New York City Campaign Finance Board; interference with plaintiff's election franchise; a scheme to defraud plaintiff of a reasonable expectation of successful participation in the suffrage process; and, a scheme by all defendants for unjust enrichment.



The defendants, if they want to avoid a default judgement, have to respond to all of those causes of action and paragraphs of idiocy. That takes time and money.

Some other gems:

Plaintiff's alleged vast conspiracy implicates dozens of political and religious figures, as well as the 2008 presidential candidates from both major parties, with numerous absurd allegations. They range from claiming that an associate at the large law firm of Kirkland and Ellis, LLP masterminded the conspiracy because she wrote a law review article about the U. S. Constitution's natural born citizen requirement for the office of President to the assertion that Islam is a seventh century A.D. invention of the Vatican.

Plaintiff's allegations are strongly anti-Catholic, anti-Muslim and xenophobic. Thecomplaint weaves the occasional true but irrelevant fact into plaintiff's rambling stream of consciousness.

Plaintiff STRUNK, in his final twenty pages of the complaint, alleges that the massive conspiracy to defraud American voters was perpetrated by hundreds of individuals, at the behest of the Roman Catholic Church and especially the Jesuits, with the aim of bringing about the Apocalypse through the destruction of the Al Aqsa Mosquein Jerusalem and the re-building a new Jewish Temple on that site.

MR. STRUNK: I fired himby registered mail within 72 hours.

THE COURT:I saw your letter that you fired the President.  I guess he didn't agree with you because he's still there.

THE COURT:What I find fascinating, first of all you saidthere was a connection there where you say Cindy McCain says she's aCatholic. I don't know if she is. I think you said she's Catholic faith,Cindy McCain.

MR. STRUNK: She is the largest distributor of Budweiser.

THE COURT:I know that. That doesn't make her a Catholicnecessarily.

MR. STRUNK:It's the connection that counts. Your don't getthose connections.

THE COURT:. . . I don't know if the Busch family is Catholic.

Plaintiff STRUNK's rambling, forty-five page prolix complaint, with its irrelevant, scatter-shot morass of alleged historical references, virulent anti-Catholic rhetoric and extensive political rant fails to plead his alleged causes of action in a manner that is "sufficiently particular to give the court and parties notice of the transactions, occurrences, or series of transactions or occurrences, intended to be proved and the material elements of each cause of action [CPLR § 3013]"
 
2013-04-05 05:56:12 PM  
I too am disappointed that it wasn't Oily Taint.
 
2013-04-05 06:03:38 PM  

poot_rootbeer: bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.

How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"


If a serious question:

I assume there were 3 defendants, each requiring their own attorneys.  Nutbag plaintiffs also tend not to be too stingy with their filing, so you've got a lot of crap to sort through.   Frankly, it is harder to respond to incompetent opposing counsel.   Good attorneys state the relevant facts and state the relevant legal standards, and then everyone's on the same page.   With bad attorneys, you have to try to figure out what they are even saying, what claims might actually be buried in their filings, and what a judge might decide to pull out of their rantings.

Just because they are incompetent doesn't mean you get to be.   It may have a been a bit overlawyered, but when you're dealing with a nutball, you really don't want to lose.  You go the extra mile.


So that, plus if they got into any discovery (information requests), that can be really time consuming and expensive.   Electronic discovery is becoming a huge issue.  Nobody manages their data with an eye toward inexpensively responding to discovery requests.   It's a nightmare.
 
2013-04-05 06:08:59 PM  

Theaetetus: poot_rootbeer: bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.

How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"

From the order:
[mind-boggling text elided]


Wow.

I hadn't realized that the birthers actually believed that both political parties were conspiring to get Obama into office.  I'd thought they were just attacking the Dems and praying to White Republican Jesus to save them.  I had not paid any serious attention to their point-by-point claims, because... well, because life is short, and they are bugnut crazy whacked.

So if Obama and McCain are both guilty of... whatever... then who, exactly, do the droolers think should be President right now?  Twisp and Catsby?  Maybe the Timecube guy?
 
2013-04-05 06:20:25 PM  

over_and_done: Theaetetus: poot_rootbeer: bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.

How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"

From the order:
[mind-boggling text elided]

Wow.

I hadn't realized that the birthers actually believed that both political parties were conspiring to get Obama into office.  I'd thought they were just attacking the Dems and praying to White Republican Jesus to save them.  I had not paid any serious attention to their point-by-point claims, because... well, because life is short, and they are bugnut crazy whacked.

So if Obama and McCain are both guilty of... whatever... then who, exactly, do the droolers think should be President right now?  Twisp and Catsby?  Maybe the Timecube guy?


Sarah Palin, you betcha!
 
2013-04-05 06:28:09 PM  

Captain PTMB: D135: This  brave patriot is just asking questions and Fark just wants him to die in a fire.  Well don't let me stop your typical hate-filled circlejerk, lieberals.

I'll assume you're trolling, because we here at Fark don't say "die in a fire".  We're rather more succinct.
+ 1 derp to you.

 
2013-04-05 06:29:45 PM  

over_and_done: So if Obama and McCain are both guilty of... whatever... then who, exactly, do the droolers think should be President right now?  Twisp and Catsby?  Maybe the Timecube guy?


Twisp and Catsby for President!
"Vexatious!"
 
2013-04-05 06:32:52 PM  
I really, really, really, really cannot wait for the followup on this where his "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," has been put to the test.
 
2013-04-05 06:58:40 PM  
Interesting. Courts will entertain nearly ever kind of self-serving, narcissistic  convoluted  insulting and crime against Nature kind of case no matter how wacko ... but calling Obama to account for being a Usurper Fraud ginned up to destroy America following the Plan laid down by Bill Ayers sucking on Alinsky's manhood ... no, that case the Court will not hear.

How convenient. And revealing.

Kiss your Constitution and Bill of Rights goodbye, citizen. You had the chance to crush this at the Polls and instead ... we ... here we are.
 
2013-04-05 07:17:47 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?

Yeah. Cutting his balls off sounds about right.


Ha, I read that the same way.
 
2013-04-05 07:21:20 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: sjmcc13: I also do not limit my social interacitons to only my age group.

[www.troll.me image 552x708]


I mean I interact with seniors, my grand parents generation had a high % of people who did not finish school and did not need to due to limited career choices.
 
2013-04-05 07:44:58 PM  

Tigger: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

I'm going to laugh my ass off when he goes to jail.


Our legal system is a joke, this will surely be overturned by some retarded judge. But its a start. Maybe making stupid people pay for being stupid will catch on and become a thing. We can only hope
 
2013-04-05 07:50:01 PM  
Oh the moron will pay an pay even more in legal fees.
 
2013-04-05 07:52:38 PM  

Tigger: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

I'm going to laugh my ass off when he goes to jail.


My very reaction. What a friggin' asshole. Can't wait to see this escalate into jail time & increased fines.
 
2013-04-05 07:58:30 PM  

Lord Dimwit: McCain was born outside the United States on a military base. The State Department specifically states that being born on a military base does not automatically qualify you as a citizen under the 14th Amendment. Additionally, at the time of his birth, the law did not automatically grant citizenship to persons born in the Panama Canal Zone, even if both their parents were Americans. McCain was retroactively granted citizenship by a change in the law shortly after he was born but, and this is the important part, he was not a citizen at birth.


Yeah, his parents were both citizens, which makes the military base stuff utterly irrelevant. It just means that he didn't get citizenship through being born on US Territory- which is one of two ways you can be born a citizen in this country.

John McCain was never not a US Citizen, and he was never anything but a natural born citizen. Lay off the tinfoil hat blogs.
 
2013-04-05 08:02:48 PM  
I do not like Obama and I did not vote for him, BUT if there was any chance he was not eligeable to be president, I am confident the Clinton family or the GOP would have figured that out a long time ago.
 
2013-04-05 08:18:48 PM  
Someone needs to shoop BR-549 onto that piece of paper he's holding.

/Samples sales!
 
2013-04-05 09:32:45 PM  

nytmare: Charlie Chingas: so, he's a conservatard? Retardlican? spoiled brat throwing a fit because the black man got elected?

Now now, both sides have their share of nutters. Just that right-wing nutters burden society in extra special ways.


cdn3.blogs.babble.com
 
2013-04-05 10:56:05 PM  
"I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

Good....Good...
 
2013-04-05 11:34:48 PM  
What a nutter.
 
2013-04-06 12:29:00 AM  
Fark, I am so, so disappoint.

fc00.deviantart.net
 
2013-04-06 12:35:31 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: cman: One cannot be deemed an "idiot" in a court of law.

They certainly can. But it's more of a defense than a charge.


It also explains much of Fark.
 
2013-04-06 12:38:18 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Deep Contact: Obaamma

I'm not sure where you're going with this epithet.  I mean I can understand using a 0 for the O or things like "bummer" or "bongo" or "bigot", but are you saying he's a sheep?  I thought his supporters were the sheep.  And what's with the two m's?


I'm guessing  Deep Contact's keyboard is sticky.
 
2013-04-06 12:46:45 AM  

sjmcc13: Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave

I am Dysgraphic, and the spell checker does not work on my browser. Plus I just do not care any more, this is not work or school, and fixing the errors is not worth the effort.

Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,



BS. All you had to do was copy, letter for letter, the word "competence". It was handed to you on a spoon and you simply disregarded it. You seem to think that your logic transcends elementary school level spelling. It doesn't. If you can't write a coherent sentence, don't expect that your logic will win the debate because your readers have already judged that you're illiterate and not worthy of further consideration.
 
2013-04-06 01:16:55 AM  

Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave


Not sure if serious, but you spelled "Peeve" wrong.

Maybe it's a farkism, I haven't been here long enough...
 
2013-04-06 10:30:33 AM  

tripleseven: Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave

Not sure if serious, but you spelled "Peeve" wrong.

Maybe it's a farkism, I haven't been here long enough...


You've been rotsky'd.
i13.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-06 01:02:02 PM  
'tards still readin' Daily Kos?  Don't worry, scrot. Now, there are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives.
 
2013-04-06 02:39:55 PM  
Chuck Wagon:

Before long you will start seeing the claims that Biden is not eligible to run for President in 2016. This is because the Muslin Usurper was never really eligible to be President and so for the past 5 years Biden was really President.

Oh, come on now.  This is getting ridiculous.  It's been proven beyond a shadow of any reasonable doubt that he is really Peau de Soie.
 
2013-04-06 02:44:32 PM  

Farxist Marxist: sjmcc13: Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave

I am Dysgraphic, and the spell checker does not work on my browser. Plus I just do not care any more, this is not work or school, and fixing the errors is not worth the effort.

Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,


BS. All you had to do was copy, letter for letter, the word "competence". It was handed to you on a spoon and you simply disregarded it. You seem to think that your logic transcends elementary school level spelling. It doesn't. If you can't ...


Well that's his point though, innit? You prejudge based on the presentation, not the content.

I say when you're too busy scrounging in the dirt to learn spelling, you probably get a myopic view of politics. But I'm an elitist liberal ninny, so there you go.
 
2013-04-06 03:26:42 PM  
s3.amazonaws.com
"He mad"

Love how they placed the picture so it looks like B-Rock the Islamic Shock is laughing at his dumb ass.
 
2013-04-06 11:51:55 PM  
"I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime,"

That's because you don't have a dime.
 
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