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Pud [TotalFark]
2013-04-05 01:22:21 PM
"I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'
 
2013-04-05 01:33:42 PM

Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'


I'm going to laugh my ass off when he goes to jail.
 
2013-04-05 01:34:59 PM
I was really hoping it'd be Oily.
 
2013-04-05 01:36:09 PM
One cannot be deemed an "idiot" in a court of law.

This guy wasted the courts time and for that he is being punished.
 
2013-04-05 01:49:14 PM

CaptSacto: I was really hoping it'd be Oily.


Yup. When I read the headline, I thought, "Again??"
 
2013-04-05 02:13:09 PM

CaptSacto: I was really hoping it'd be Oily.


Me too.
 
2013-04-05 02:52:51 PM
Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?
 
2013-04-05 02:53:28 PM
Yet another activist judge in on the conspiracy! The Hoverrounds ride at dawn!
 
2013-04-05 02:53:41 PM
github.com
 
2013-04-05 02:54:19 PM
I'd imagine he'll pay, but a lot less.  Unless this guy has significant assets can be shown to truly be trolling the courts. The important thing though is making him pay at least court costs for this incident to show you can't troll the courts as a retirement hobby.
 
2013-04-05 02:55:56 PM

cman: One cannot be deemed an "idiot" in a court of law.


They certainly can. But it's more of a defense than a charge.
 
2013-04-05 02:56:41 PM
Frivolous lawsuits contribute to a larger government.  Dick.
 
2013-04-05 02:57:36 PM
so, he's a conservatard? Retardlican? spoiled brat throwing a fit because the black man got elected?
 
2013-04-05 02:57:42 PM

ha-ha-guy: can be shown to truly be trolling the courts


FTFA:

Apparently Strunk had written 20 previous lawsuits. Most have been dismissed

Somehow I doubt those prior lawsuits had any more merit than this one.
 
2013-04-05 02:58:06 PM

Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?


Yeah. Cutting his balls off sounds about right.
 
2013-04-05 02:58:26 PM
Rush and Fox will make him a martyr by the end of next week.
 
2013-04-05 02:58:40 PM

Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'


It gets him more attention, so it will work out for him just fine.
 
2013-04-05 02:59:09 PM

Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?


This post makes me want to drop my Libertarian card for a Republican card, just to spite you.

The public ends up paying for frivolous lawsuits.
 
2013-04-05 02:59:13 PM

Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'


Any legal expert care to chime in?  I mean, how hard is it to overturn fines like this that are imposed by a judge?  I'd imagine not easy...
 
2013-04-05 03:01:43 PM
Can this guy still file new lawsuits with 177 unpaid big ones hanging over his head? That would seem to be a very sensible way to shut him down, if not. Even if they never actually get any significant amount of that money out of him, it'll be worth it in the long run if nonpayment is sufficient grounds to bar him from filing any more bullshiat lawsuits.
 
2013-04-05 03:02:10 PM
The conspiracy spreads!
 
2013-04-05 03:02:26 PM
Apparently Strunk had written 20 previous lawsuits.

All with impeccable grammar, syntax and style.
 
2013-04-05 03:03:58 PM
"If the complaint in this action was a movie script, it would be entitled 'The Manchurian Candidate Meets The Da Vinci Code.'"

Hell, I'd see that movie.
 
2013-04-05 03:04:26 PM
I'm not versed in photoshop, but this guy is begging for the Hee-Haw treatment with bale of hay and banjo.
 
2013-04-05 03:04:33 PM

Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'


Can you get cited for contempt outside of the courtroom?
 
2013-04-05 03:05:50 PM

Charlie Chingas: so, he's a conservatard? Retardlican? spoiled brat throwing a fit because the black man got elected?


Now now, both sides have their share of nutters. Just that right-wing nutters burden society in extra special ways.
 
2013-04-05 03:06:05 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Yet another activist judge in on the conspiracy! The Hoverrounds ride at dawn!


This.
 
2013-04-05 03:07:21 PM

Arkanaut: The conspiracy spreads!


Exactly...now even lower court judges are in on it!!!

/off to wash my hands
 
2013-04-05 03:07:42 PM

GAT_00: Can you get cited for contempt outside of the courtroom?


For failing to obey a court order / judges order.
 
2013-04-05 03:08:05 PM
Change that blue suit to a pair of bib overalls, put a straw hat on him, and he'd feel right at home here in Texas. We have a large supply of nutters just like him.
 
2013-04-05 03:08:53 PM

GAT_00: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

Can you get cited for contempt outside of the courtroom?


Most contempt happens outside of court. Ignoring the court and not showing up often results in contempt rulings.
 
2013-04-05 03:09:16 PM
Here's a strategy: buy the judgment against him and plague him with legal action until he pays.  It works in the credit card business.
 
2013-04-05 03:09:56 PM

Wook: Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?

This post makes me want to drop my Libertarian card for a Republican card, just to spite you.

The public ends up paying for frivolous lawsuits.


Mmm, I think I misdirected my snark.  Yes, frivolous lawsuits are bad.  Yes, Republicans say they are against them.  Unless, you know, it involves pointing out the derp of a large number of their supports.

But you carry whatever card you like ;)
 
2013-04-05 03:10:50 PM
Had it been the guys first lawsuit on the issue than I may have been irked by the Judge's fine. But 20 previous ones? Come on your time would be more productive arguing with trolls.

Seriously though what do people honestly hope to accomplish with this? Making sure Biden gets to be president.

A few days maybe weeks of news coverage would occure before people went back to their normal business and by the next election they will have virtually forgotten about it.
 
2013-04-05 03:11:16 PM

GAT_00: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

Can you get cited for contempt outside of the courtroom?


If appeal is denied, then the original ruling stands and a bench warrant can be issued. Paying up, going to jail, or fleeing the country to a place with non-extradition treaties are the Birther's options.
 
2013-04-05 03:13:01 PM

Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?


Only the lawsuits against corporations that "donate" to massive "campaign contributions".
 
2013-04-05 03:13:18 PM

Carn: Wook: Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?

This post makes me want to drop my Libertarian card for a Republican card, just to spite you.

The public ends up paying for frivolous lawsuits.

Mmm, I think I misdirected my snark.  Yes, frivolous lawsuits are bad.  Yes, Republicans say they are against them.  Unless, you know, it involves pointing out the derp of a large number of their supports.

But you carry whatever card you like ;)


Supporters.  Derp.
 
2013-04-05 03:14:28 PM

cman: One cannot be deemed an "idiot" in a court of law.


That's what Fark is for.
 
2013-04-05 03:14:40 PM

Mithiwithi: Can this guy still file new lawsuits with 177 unpaid big ones hanging over his head? That would seem to be a very sensible way to shut him down, if not. Even if they never actually get any significant amount of that money out of him, it'll be worth it in the long run if nonpayment is sufficient grounds to bar him from filing any more bullshiat lawsuits.


I am not a lawyer but I seriously doubt that having (what I assume to be) a civil judgement against you in one court legally bars you from pursuing litigation, even in that same court. Now, how the presiding judge will view that litigation is another matter entirely.  Just from my experiences with district and federal judges outside of a courtroom setting I can say that they are typicallypretty goddamn impressed with themselves and it is best not to poke at them.
 
2013-04-05 03:15:50 PM
Thanks, it's nice getting honest answers.
 
2013-04-05 03:16:10 PM

Danger Avoid Death: Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?

Yeah. Cutting his balls off sounds about right.


He looks pretty old. I doubt they work very well.
 
2013-04-05 03:16:18 PM
How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?
 
2013-04-05 03:16:55 PM
I'm almost 100% positive you can't be punished for being an idiot in America. At least I have to assume so, given the idiot to punishment ratio.
 
2013-04-05 03:17:33 PM

Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?


You're supposed to say Fartbongo or King Obambo von Socialista.
 
2013-04-05 03:19:51 PM

Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?


You don't get fined for being an idiot. You get promoted.
 
2013-04-05 03:20:35 PM

Chuck Wagon: Danger Avoid Death: Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?

Yeah. Cutting his balls off sounds about right.

He looks pretty old. I doubt they work very well.


I don't think the berries ever go bad, I think the twig just wilts.
 
2013-04-05 03:20:57 PM
Charlie Chingas: "so, he's a conservatard? Retardlican? spoiled brat throwing a fit because the black man got elected?"

Yes.


semiotix: "If the complaint in this action was a movie script, it would be entitled 'The Manchurian Candidate Meets The Da Vinci Code.'"

Hell, I'd see that movie."



So would I. Plot might be kinda hard to follow, though.
 
2013-04-05 03:21:15 PM

roddack: Had it been the guys first lawsuit on the issue than I may have been irked by the Judge's fine. But 20 previous ones? Come on your time would be more productive arguing with trolls.

Seriously though what do people honestly hope to accomplish with this? Making sure Biden gets to be president.

A few days maybe weeks of news coverage would occure before people went back to their normal business and by the next election they will have virtually forgotten about it.



Before long you will start seeing the claims that Biden is not eligible to run for President in 2016. This is because the Muslin Usurper was never really eligible to be President and so for the past 5 years Biden was really President.
 
2013-04-05 03:21:39 PM

Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?


You are not competent at trolling.
 
2013-04-05 03:21:57 PM

Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?


He's being fined at a rate of $10,000 for each major idiotic thing he's done, and $1,000 for each lesser idiotic thing. Trivial idiotic things he gets a pass on.

So far the fines have added up to $0.

/wonder what that means...
 
2013-04-05 03:23:01 PM

usernameguy: Apparently Strunk had written 20 previous lawsuits.

All with impeccable grammar, syntax and style.


I laughed too hard at that.
 
2013-04-05 03:25:43 PM

Deep Contact: Obaamma


I'm not sure where you're going with this epithet.  I mean I can understand using a 0 for the O or things like "bummer" or "bongo" or "bigot", but are you saying he's a sheep?  I thought his supporters were the sheep.  And what's with the two m's?

/you can tell I'm bored on a Friday afternoon when I'm parsing Presidential epithets
 
2013-04-05 03:27:29 PM

roddack: Had it been the guys first lawsuit on the issue than I may have been irked by the Judge's fine. But 20 previous ones? Come on your time would be more productive arguing with trolls.

Seriously though what do people honestly hope to accomplish with this? Making sure Biden gets to be president.


This.

Of course, your TRUE Birther believes winning against Obama will get Biden thrown out also.

Plus, everything Obama has signed will be automatically overturned.

/they get really quiet when you point out that includes spending bills, which in turn include payments to our servicemen...
 
2013-04-05 03:28:21 PM

Philimus: semiotix: "If the complaint in this action was a movie script, it would be entitled 'The Manchurian Candidate Meets The Da Vinci Code.'"

Hell, I'd see that movie."

So would I. Plot might be kinda hard to follow, though.


That's just what they want you to think...

// so derp the cons of men
 
2013-04-05 03:30:14 PM

A Shambling Mound: I am not a lawyer but I seriously doubt that having (what I assume to be) a civil judgement against you in one court legally bars you from pursuing litigation, even in that same court. Now, how the presiding judge will view that litigation is another matter entirely.  Just from my experiences with district and federal judges outside of a courtroom setting I can say that they are typicallypretty goddamn impressed with themselves and it is best not to poke at them.


There's no automatic bar, no, but the court can in fact bar you from filing new lawsuits (at least without counsel signing on).  See e.g. Jack Thompson, who cannot file any lawsuit in Florida) though that is exceedingly rare.

That wouldn't stop him from being a witness in a case (e.g. a criminal case), but rather just restricts their ability to use the civil court system.
 
2013-04-05 03:31:21 PM
Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

It's based on the Idiot scale of previous tenant. Last I heard, He's being fined -$400,000.00 but he's giving some of it back.
 
2013-04-05 03:31:36 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: you can tell I'm bored on a Friday afternoon when I'm parsing Presidential epithets


That knock on your door is the Secret Service, who would like a word with you.
 
2013-04-05 03:32:08 PM

Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?


Nice generalization of a political class. As this guy is a complete dumbass I would say yes, they will castigate this guy.
 
2013-04-05 03:32:21 PM

PunGent: Of course, your TRUE Birther believes winning against Obama will get Biden and everyone else in the administration thrown out also and replaced with Republicans.

Plus, everything Obama has signed will be automatically overturned.


Now with more betterness.
 
2013-04-05 03:33:05 PM

Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?


This is the sort of breathtakingly original and witty commentary we've come to expect from the conservative regulars of this website.
 
2013-04-05 03:33:13 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

Any legal expert care to chime in?  I mean, how hard is it to overturn fines like this that are imposed by a judge?  I'd imagine not easy...


Not easy, not impossible.  I'd imagine he could appeal, and possibly get it knocked down to, say, $20k, ie, $1000 per bogus suit.

Not really my area, though.  And judges WILL defend other judges, just like doctors defend other doctors, etc.

Now, if he's got no assets, then he may be judgment proof...it's the ultimate legal defense.
But contempt of court can also land you in jail, so...
 
2013-04-05 03:34:51 PM

Harry Freakstorm: Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

It's based on the Idiot scale of previous tenant. Last I heard, He's being fined -$400,000.00 but he's giving some of it back.


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2013-04-05 03:35:28 PM

mattharvest: There's no automatic bar, no, but the court can in fact bar you from filing new lawsuits (at least without counsel signing on).   See e.g. Jack Thompson, who cannot file any lawsuit in Florida) though that is exceedingly rare.


LOL...I had to google his name, as I'd never heard of him. Wow...just...wow.
 
2013-04-05 03:38:53 PM

usernameguy: Apparently Strunk had written 20 previous lawsuits.

All with impeccable grammar, syntax and style.


That's very White of you.
 
2013-04-05 03:39:41 PM
 
2013-04-05 03:39:58 PM

Philimus: Charlie Chingas: "so, he's a conservatard? Retardlican? spoiled brat throwing a fit because the black man got elected?"

Yes.


semiotix: "If the complaint in this action was a movie script, it would be entitled 'The Manchurian Candidate Meets The Da Vinci Code.'"

Hell, I'd see that movie."


So would I. Plot might be kinda hard to follow, though.


You'd really have to study it out.
 
2013-04-05 03:40:09 PM
So hes not gonna pay then?

Judges tend to forget or avoid putting stipulations in the court order for notice of payment, that if not payed within a certain time frame(or appealed) that a nice officer will show up and take the person to jail and then up before the Judge to explain why he not pay.

Basic law to avoid having to keep coming back to the court over and over to get the deadbeat to pay you.
 
2013-04-05 03:42:03 PM
I wonder what the guys looks like, probably a......YUP
 
2013-04-05 03:44:17 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

Any legal expert care to chime in?  I mean, how hard is it to overturn fines like this that are imposed by a judge?  I'd imagine not easy...


It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.   They'll get a judgment docketed against him, and then take whatever steps a private party can usually take to collect a debt.

It's not a contempt issue or a jailin'.
 
2013-04-05 03:46:28 PM
"I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk.

WHAR BENCH WARRANT???!!?? WHAR???!!11!!
 
2013-04-05 03:47:12 PM

Carn: Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

You're supposed to say Fartbongo or King Obambo von Socialista.


I've recently started using Fartbongo Trollbama myself.
 
2013-04-05 03:48:00 PM

bikerific: Satanic_Hamster: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

Any legal expert care to chime in?  I mean, how hard is it to overturn fines like this that are imposed by a judge?  I'd imagine not easy...

It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.   They'll get a judgment docketed against him, and then take whatever steps a private party can usually take to collect a debt.

It's not a contempt issue or a jailin'.


This...if it is indeed the case that it's an award of legal fees, rather than a contempt citation.  He MIGHT still get it tossed or reduced on appeal...but that could mean MORE legal fees at the end of the day.
 
2013-04-05 03:49:52 PM

efgeise: Carn: Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

You're supposed to say Fartbongo or King Obambo von Socialista.

I've recently started using Fartbongo Trollbama myself.


There's always the classic: B. HUSSEIN Obama.
 
2013-04-05 03:52:29 PM

Stone Meadow: efgeise: Carn: Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

You're supposed to say Fartbongo or King Obambo von Socialista.

I've recently started using Fartbongo Trollbama myself.

There's always the classic: B. HUSSEIN Obama.


My personal fav is Bareefer Obonghit
 
2013-04-05 03:52:51 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Deep Contact: Obaamma

I'm not sure where you're going with this epithet.  I mean I can understand using a 0 for the O or things like "bummer" or "bongo" or "bigot", but are you saying he's a sheep?  I thought his supporters were the sheep.  And what's with the two m's?

/you can tell I'm bored on a Friday afternoon when I'm parsing Presidential epithets


Obama is very sheepish when asked to describe what exactly he stands for besides the vague "Hope and Change", hence the baa. Mm stands for M&M. Obama may be black on the inside, but on the outside he is actually half white, not chocolate, and is a shell of a man.
 
2013-04-05 03:52:54 PM

efgeise: Carn: Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

You're supposed to say Fartbongo or King Obambo von Socialista.

I've recently started using Fartbongo Trollbama myself.


2.bp.blogspot.com
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-05 03:54:28 PM
Haha, I keep reading a particular Farker's name as 'Derp Contact.'

Which is appropriate I suppose. :)
 
2013-04-05 03:57:02 PM

Heraclitus: My personal fav is Bareefer Obonghit


I am sooooooo stealing that.
 
2013-04-05 03:57:48 PM

Heraclitus: Stone Meadow: efgeise: Carn: Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

You're supposed to say Fartbongo or King Obambo von Socialista.

I've recently started using Fartbongo Trollbama myself.

There's always the classic: B. HUSSEIN Obama.

My personal fav is Bareefer Obonghit


Ok that's on my new favs list.
 
2013-04-05 03:58:34 PM

Carn: MyPenIsHuge: Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?

Nice generalization of a political class. As this guy is a complete dumbass I would say yes, they will castigate this guy.

Pointing out a party platform?  I'm not exactly breaking new ground here.

The Republican Party has published its 2012 Republican Party Platform in which it addresses many issues, including "tort reform" under the heading, "Reducing Costs through Tort Reform," in which it states:

Frivolous medical malpractice lawsuits have ballooned the cost of healthcare for the average American. Physicians are increasingly practicing defensive medicine because of the looming threat of malpractice liability. Moreover, some medical practitioners are avoiding patients with complex and high-risk medical problems because of the high costs of medical malpractice lawsuits. Rural America is hurt especially hard as obstetricians, surgeons, and other healthcare providers are moving to urban settings or retiring, causing a significant healthcare workforce shortage and subsequently decreasing access to care for all patients. We are committed to aggressively pursuing tort reform legislation to help avoid the practice of defensive medicine, to keep healthcare costs low, and improve healthcare quality.


Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a setelement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were compotent and reasearched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompotent ones until they re-train. It is an industruy that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make allot of money, but that is only deserved when they are compotent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a compotence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.
 
2013-04-05 04:00:13 PM

Johnny_Whistle: Chingas


Johnny_Whistle: Philimus: Charlie Chingas: "so, he's a conservatard? Retardlican? spoiled brat throwing a fit because the black man got elected?"

Yes.


semiotix: "If the complaint in this action was a movie script, it would be entitled 'The Manchurian Candidate Meets The Da Vinci Code.'"

Hell, I'd see that movie."


So would I. Plot might be kinda hard to follow, though.

You'd really have to study it out.


I bet if they throw jesus in there somewhere, guns and cars turning left it would make perfect sense.
 
2013-04-05 04:03:32 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

Any legal expert care to chime in?  I mean, how hard is it to overturn fines like this that are imposed by a judge?  I'd imagine not easy...


To quote the Second Circuit Court of Appeals (where this case will be appealed to):

We review a district court's award of attorneys' fees for abuse of discretion, and we will reverse only if the decision rested on an error of law or a clearly erroneous finding of fact, or was not otherwise "`within the range of permissible decisions.'" McDaniel v. Cnty. of Schenectady, 595 F.3d 411, 416 (2d Cir. 2010) (quoting Kickham Hanley P.C. v. Kodak Ret. Income Plan, 558 F.3d 204, 209 (2d Cir. 2009)). Our review of fee decisions is especially deferential because the district court "`is intimately [more] familiar with the nuances of the case, [and thus] is in a far better position to make [such] decisions.'" Goldberger v. Integrated Res., Inc., 209 F.3d 43, 48 (2d Cir. 2000) (quoting In re Bolar Pharm. Co. Sec. Litig., 966 F.2d 731, 732 (2d Cir. 1992) (per curiam)).

Translation: unless the judge made up numbers out of thin air, the decision will be affirmed. And even if the appeals court does find something wrong, they would just send it right back to the same judge and tell him to do it again.
 
2013-04-05 04:06:37 PM

Cork on Fork: Translation: unless the judge made up numbers out of thin air, the decision will be affirmed. And even if the appeals court does find something wrong, they would just send it right back to the same judge and tell him to do it again.


In other words...he's boned. LOL
 
2013-04-05 04:11:31 PM

Stone Meadow: In other words...he's boned. LOL


Yes, yes he is. Because if it does get sent back to the judge you can be sure the fact that this guy just laughed about the whole thing will be relevant.

Something similar happened a few years ago. Someone was sentenced to prison and immediately said "oh, that's not a long time at all..." in a press conference. The appeals court ended up telling the judge to do the sentence again for a few reasons, but the fact that the person was so dismissive of it in the first place was mentioned.

Courts do not like it when people don't take their decisions seriously.
 
2013-04-05 04:17:22 PM

MyPenIsHuge: Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?

Nice generalization of a political class. As this guy is a complete dumbass I would say yes, they will castigate this guy.


Republicans are famous for castigating their most prominent idiots. Particularly in birther cases. It's why Donald Trump was so roundly criticised, and why Sarah Palin immediately retracted her background check joke.
 
2013-04-05 04:18:06 PM
sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.


Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave
 
2013-04-05 04:22:03 PM
vexatious litigation n. filing a lawsuit with the knowledge that it has no legal basis, with its purpose to bother, annoy, embarrass and cause legal expenses to the defendant. Vexatious litigation includes continuing a lawsuit after discovery of the facts shows it has absolutely no merit. Upon judgment for the defendant, he/she has the right to file a suit for "malicious prosecution" against the original vexatious plaintiff. Moreover, most states allow a judge to penalize a plaintiff and his/her attorney for filing or continuing a "frivolous" legal action with sanctions (money award to the defendant for the trouble and/or attorney fees). (See: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/malicious%20prosecution" >malicious prosecution, http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sanction">sanction)
Litigation is typically classified as vexatious when an attorney or a pro se litigant (a person representing himself without an attorney) repeatedly files groundless lawsuits and repeatedly loses. Under the http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Common+Law">Common Law, the frequent incitement of lawsuits by an attorney constituted the crime of http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Barratry">Barratry. In modern law, however, barratry is viewed as an archaic crime and is rarely enforced. Attorneys who encourage vexatious litigation are subject to discipline for violating rules of professional conduct and may be suspended from the http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Practice+of+Law">Practi ce of Law or disbarred.
Sometimes pro se litigants who have lost their initial lawsuits file new actions based on the dispute contained in the original suit. Because the judgment of the original case is dispositive, a court will ultimately dismiss these new actions. To avoid the expenditure of court resources, as well as the costs associated with the defendant's defense of repeated frivolous claims, a court may issue an order forbidding the pro se litigant to file any new actions without permission of the court
 
2013-04-05 04:23:32 PM
TFA looks like a Daily Fail mess:  snippets of story broken up by superfluous large pics.
 
2013-04-05 04:26:07 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Frivolous lawsuits contribute to a larger government.  Dick.


It doesn't count if the frivolous lawsuits are against Obama the Usurper!
 
2013-04-05 04:33:01 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-05 04:33:50 PM

bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.


How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"
 
2013-04-05 04:38:45 PM
One more time:

McCain was born outside the United States on a military base. The State Department specifically states that being born on a military base does not automatically qualify you as a citizen under the 14th Amendment. Additionally, at the time of his birth, the law did not automatically grant citizenship to persons born in the Panama Canal Zone, even if both their parents were Americans. McCain was retroactively granted citizenship by a change in the law shortly after he was born but, and this is the important part, he was not a citizen at birth.

On the other hand, you have a guy who was born in a hospital in Hawaii, a state of the United States. His birth certificate says so, witnesses at the time say so, birth announcements in contemporary newspapers say so, and the Hawaiian government says so.

So, until Republicans can tell me why such a stink was made about Obama but not about McCain, I'm going to assume that all birthers, without exception, are either racist or too intentionally ignorant to be worth my time and should probably seek psychological counselling.

/ yes I realize the irony of saying something is not worth my time and then writing a post about it
// but what else do you expect me to do at 3:30 on a Friday, work?
 
2013-04-05 04:39:00 PM

Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave


I am Dysgraphic, and the spell checker does not work on my browser. Plus I just do not care any more, this is not work or school, and fixing the errors is not worth the effort.

Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,
 
2013-04-05 04:45:40 PM

Lord Dimwit: / yes I realize the irony of saying something is not worth my time and then writing a post about it
// but what else do you expect me to do at 3:30 on a Friday, work?


Yes, back to the grindstone ;)
 
2013-04-05 04:49:21 PM

Heraclitus: Stone Meadow: efgeise: Carn: Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

You're supposed to say Fartbongo or King Obambo von Socialista.

I've recently started using Fartbongo Trollbama myself.

There's always the classic: B. HUSSEIN Obama.

My personal fav is Bareefer Obonghit


It's still hard to beat Bukkake O'Bunga.
 
2013-04-05 04:58:14 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

Any legal expert care to chime in?  I mean, how hard is it to overturn fines like this that are imposed by a judge?  I'd imagine not easy...


That crazy hag has been trying to get HER fines overturned for most of a decade. So far she's been tossed from every court in America, and was declaring she'd be trying The Hague next.
 
2013-04-05 04:59:03 PM
I would have gone with the "Hero" tag myself
 
2013-04-05 05:03:25 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Heraclitus: Stone Meadow: efgeise: Carn: Deep Contact: How much is Obaamma being fined for being an idiot?

You're supposed to say Fartbongo or King Obambo von Socialista.

I've recently started using Fartbongo Trollbama myself.

There's always the classic: B. HUSSEIN Obama.

My personal fav is Bareefer Obonghit

It's still hard to beat Bukkake O'Bunga.


I've always liked Baroque Husqvarna myself.
 
2013-04-05 05:07:23 PM

sjmcc13: Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,


You know a lot of high school dropouts who are in the habit of making a lot of sense? Because I sure don't.
 
2013-04-05 05:17:15 PM

dv-ous: sjmcc13: Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,

You know a lot of high school dropouts who are in the habit of making a lot of sense? Because I sure don't.


I know a people who were forced to drop out for economic/family reasons. I also do not limit my social interacitons to only my age group.
plus you do not need to be makign allot of sense to be right on that one issue, especially if it is something you deal with on a regular basis.
 
2013-04-05 05:17:57 PM

sjmcc13: dv-ous: sjmcc13: Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,

You know a lot of high school dropouts who are in the habit of making a lot of sense? Because I sure don't.

I know a people who were forced to drop out for economic/family reasons. I also do not limit my social interacitons to only my age group.
plus you do not need to be

in the habit of makign allot of sense to be right on that one issue, especially if it is something you deal with on a regular basis.

ftfm
 
2013-04-05 05:35:16 PM
This brave patriot is just asking questions and Fark just wants him to die in a fire.  Well don't let me stop your typical hate-filled circlejerk, lieberals.
 
2013-04-05 05:41:14 PM

sjmcc13: I also do not limit my social interacitons to only my age group.


www.troll.me
 
2013-04-05 05:46:11 PM

sjmcc13: Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave

I am Dysgraphic, and the spell checker does not work on my browser. Plus I just do not care any more, this is not work or school, and fixing the errors is not worth the effort.

Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,


Fair enough, I'm willing to let it go since your consistency lends your explanation credibility.  I'm not in the habit of picking on people for circumstances beyond their control.  Carry on and have a nice day.
 
2013-04-05 05:47:13 PM

D135: This brave patriot is just asking questions and Fark just wants him to die in a fire.  Well don't let me stop your typical hate-filled circlejerk, lieberals.


I'll assume you're trolling, because we here at Fark don't say "die in a fire".  We're rather more succinct.
+ 1 derp to you.
 
2013-04-05 05:51:54 PM

poot_rootbeer: bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.

How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"


From the order:
Plaintiff STRUNK's complaint is a rambling, forty-five page variation on "birther"cases, containing 150 prolix paragraphs, in at times a stream of consciousness. Plaintiff's central allegation is that defendants President OBAMA and Senator McCAIN, despite not being "natural born" citizens of the United States according to plaintiff's interpretation of Article II, Section 1, [*2]Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, engaged with the assistance of other defendants in an extensive conspiracy, on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church to defraud the American people and usurp control of the Presidency in 2008. Most of plaintiff STRUNK's complaint is a lengthy, vitriolic, baseless diatribe against defendants, but most especially against the Vatican, the Roman Catholic Church, and particularly the Society of Jesus (the Jesuit Order).
Plaintiff STRUNK alleges seven causes of action: breach of state constitutional fiduciary duty by the NEW YORK STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS and public officer defendants; denial of equal protection for voter expectation of a correct ballot; denial of substantive due process for voter expectation of a correct ballot; interference with the right to a republican form of government by the two Jesuit defendants and defendant F.A.O. SCHWARZ, JR., who were all members of the New York City Campaign Finance Board; interference with plaintiff's election franchise; a scheme to defraud plaintiff of a reasonable expectation of successful participation in the suffrage process; and, a scheme by all defendants for unjust enrichment.



The defendants, if they want to avoid a default judgement, have to respond to all of those causes of action and paragraphs of idiocy. That takes time and money.

Some other gems:

Plaintiff's alleged vast conspiracy implicates dozens of political and religious figures, as well as the 2008 presidential candidates from both major parties, with numerous absurd allegations. They range from claiming that an associate at the large law firm of Kirkland and Ellis, LLP masterminded the conspiracy because she wrote a law review article about the U. S. Constitution's natural born citizen requirement for the office of President to the assertion that Islam is a seventh century A.D. invention of the Vatican.

Plaintiff's allegations are strongly anti-Catholic, anti-Muslim and xenophobic. Thecomplaint weaves the occasional true but irrelevant fact into plaintiff's rambling stream of consciousness.

Plaintiff STRUNK, in his final twenty pages of the complaint, alleges that the massive conspiracy to defraud American voters was perpetrated by hundreds of individuals, at the behest of the Roman Catholic Church and especially the Jesuits, with the aim of bringing about the Apocalypse through the destruction of the Al Aqsa Mosquein Jerusalem and the re-building a new Jewish Temple on that site.

MR. STRUNK: I fired himby registered mail within 72 hours.

THE COURT:I saw your letter that you fired the President.  I guess he didn't agree with you because he's still there.

THE COURT:What I find fascinating, first of all you saidthere was a connection there where you say Cindy McCain says she's aCatholic. I don't know if she is. I think you said she's Catholic faith,Cindy McCain.

MR. STRUNK: She is the largest distributor of Budweiser.

THE COURT:I know that. That doesn't make her a Catholicnecessarily.

MR. STRUNK:It's the connection that counts. Your don't getthose connections.

THE COURT:. . . I don't know if the Busch family is Catholic.

Plaintiff STRUNK's rambling, forty-five page prolix complaint, with its irrelevant, scatter-shot morass of alleged historical references, virulent anti-Catholic rhetoric and extensive political rant fails to plead his alleged causes of action in a manner that is "sufficiently particular to give the court and parties notice of the transactions, occurrences, or series of transactions or occurrences, intended to be proved and the material elements of each cause of action [CPLR § 3013]"
 
2013-04-05 05:56:12 PM
I too am disappointed that it wasn't Oily Taint.
 
2013-04-05 06:03:38 PM

poot_rootbeer: bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.

How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"


If a serious question:

I assume there were 3 defendants, each requiring their own attorneys.  Nutbag plaintiffs also tend not to be too stingy with their filing, so you've got a lot of crap to sort through.   Frankly, it is harder to respond to incompetent opposing counsel.   Good attorneys state the relevant facts and state the relevant legal standards, and then everyone's on the same page.   With bad attorneys, you have to try to figure out what they are even saying, what claims might actually be buried in their filings, and what a judge might decide to pull out of their rantings.

Just because they are incompetent doesn't mean you get to be.   It may have a been a bit overlawyered, but when you're dealing with a nutball, you really don't want to lose.  You go the extra mile.


So that, plus if they got into any discovery (information requests), that can be really time consuming and expensive.   Electronic discovery is becoming a huge issue.  Nobody manages their data with an eye toward inexpensively responding to discovery requests.   It's a nightmare.
 
2013-04-05 06:08:59 PM

Theaetetus: poot_rootbeer: bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.

How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"

From the order:
[mind-boggling text elided]


Wow.

I hadn't realized that the birthers actually believed that both political parties were conspiring to get Obama into office.  I'd thought they were just attacking the Dems and praying to White Republican Jesus to save them.  I had not paid any serious attention to their point-by-point claims, because... well, because life is short, and they are bugnut crazy whacked.

So if Obama and McCain are both guilty of... whatever... then who, exactly, do the droolers think should be President right now?  Twisp and Catsby?  Maybe the Timecube guy?
 
2013-04-05 06:20:25 PM

over_and_done: Theaetetus: poot_rootbeer: bikerific: It's not a fine (at least, $167k of it is not).  He's been ordered to pay the legal fees of the defendants.

How does a trio of legal firms run up a bill that large, when the extent of necessary work here is basically a memo to the court saying, "Can you believe this farkin' guy?"

From the order:
[mind-boggling text elided]

Wow.

I hadn't realized that the birthers actually believed that both political parties were conspiring to get Obama into office.  I'd thought they were just attacking the Dems and praying to White Republican Jesus to save them.  I had not paid any serious attention to their point-by-point claims, because... well, because life is short, and they are bugnut crazy whacked.

So if Obama and McCain are both guilty of... whatever... then who, exactly, do the droolers think should be President right now?  Twisp and Catsby?  Maybe the Timecube guy?


Sarah Palin, you betcha!
 
2013-04-05 06:28:09 PM

Captain PTMB: D135: This  brave patriot is just asking questions and Fark just wants him to die in a fire.  Well don't let me stop your typical hate-filled circlejerk, lieberals.

I'll assume you're trolling, because we here at Fark don't say "die in a fire".  We're rather more succinct.
+ 1 derp to you.

 
2013-04-05 06:29:45 PM

over_and_done: So if Obama and McCain are both guilty of... whatever... then who, exactly, do the droolers think should be President right now?  Twisp and Catsby?  Maybe the Timecube guy?


Twisp and Catsby for President!
"Vexatious!"
 
2013-04-05 06:32:52 PM
I really, really, really, really cannot wait for the followup on this where his "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," has been put to the test.
 
2013-04-05 06:58:40 PM
Interesting. Courts will entertain nearly ever kind of self-serving, narcissistic  convoluted  insulting and crime against Nature kind of case no matter how wacko ... but calling Obama to account for being a Usurper Fraud ginned up to destroy America following the Plan laid down by Bill Ayers sucking on Alinsky's manhood ... no, that case the Court will not hear.

How convenient. And revealing.

Kiss your Constitution and Bill of Rights goodbye, citizen. You had the chance to crush this at the Polls and instead ... we ... here we are.
 
2013-04-05 07:17:47 PM

Danger Avoid Death: Carn: Republicans are all about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits so they're going to castigate this guy, right?  Right?

Yeah. Cutting his balls off sounds about right.


Ha, I read that the same way.
 
2013-04-05 07:21:20 PM

Danger Avoid Death: sjmcc13: I also do not limit my social interacitons to only my age group.

[www.troll.me image 552x708]


I mean I interact with seniors, my grand parents generation had a high % of people who did not finish school and did not need to due to limited career choices.
 
2013-04-05 07:44:58 PM

Tigger: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

I'm going to laugh my ass off when he goes to jail.


Our legal system is a joke, this will surely be overturned by some retarded judge. But its a start. Maybe making stupid people pay for being stupid will catch on and become a thing. We can only hope
 
2013-04-05 07:50:01 PM
Oh the moron will pay an pay even more in legal fees.
 
2013-04-05 07:52:38 PM

Tigger: Pud: "I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

Yea, thumbing your nose at the judge. Let me know how that one works out for ya'

I'm going to laugh my ass off when he goes to jail.


My very reaction. What a friggin' asshole. Can't wait to see this escalate into jail time & increased fines.
 
2013-04-05 07:58:30 PM

Lord Dimwit: McCain was born outside the United States on a military base. The State Department specifically states that being born on a military base does not automatically qualify you as a citizen under the 14th Amendment. Additionally, at the time of his birth, the law did not automatically grant citizenship to persons born in the Panama Canal Zone, even if both their parents were Americans. McCain was retroactively granted citizenship by a change in the law shortly after he was born but, and this is the important part, he was not a citizen at birth.


Yeah, his parents were both citizens, which makes the military base stuff utterly irrelevant. It just means that he didn't get citizenship through being born on US Territory- which is one of two ways you can be born a citizen in this country.

John McCain was never not a US Citizen, and he was never anything but a natural born citizen. Lay off the tinfoil hat blogs.
 
2013-04-05 08:02:48 PM
I do not like Obama and I did not vote for him, BUT if there was any chance he was not eligeable to be president, I am confident the Clinton family or the GOP would have figured that out a long time ago.
 
2013-04-05 08:18:48 PM
Someone needs to shoop BR-549 onto that piece of paper he's holding.

/Samples sales!
 
2013-04-05 09:32:45 PM

nytmare: Charlie Chingas: so, he's a conservatard? Retardlican? spoiled brat throwing a fit because the black man got elected?

Now now, both sides have their share of nutters. Just that right-wing nutters burden society in extra special ways.


cdn3.blogs.babble.com
 
2013-04-05 10:56:05 PM
"I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime," vowed Strunk .

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

Good....Good...
 
2013-04-05 11:34:48 PM
What a nutter.
 
2013-04-06 12:29:00 AM
Fark, I am so, so disappoint.

fc00.deviantart.net
 
2013-04-06 12:35:31 AM

J. Frank Parnell: cman: One cannot be deemed an "idiot" in a court of law.

They certainly can. But it's more of a defense than a charge.


It also explains much of Fark.
 
2013-04-06 12:38:18 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Deep Contact: Obaamma

I'm not sure where you're going with this epithet.  I mean I can understand using a 0 for the O or things like "bummer" or "bongo" or "bigot", but are you saying he's a sheep?  I thought his supporters were the sheep.  And what's with the two m's?


I'm guessing  Deep Contact's keyboard is sticky.
 
2013-04-06 12:46:45 AM

sjmcc13: Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave

I am Dysgraphic, and the spell checker does not work on my browser. Plus I just do not care any more, this is not work or school, and fixing the errors is not worth the effort.

Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,



BS. All you had to do was copy, letter for letter, the word "competence". It was handed to you on a spoon and you simply disregarded it. You seem to think that your logic transcends elementary school level spelling. It doesn't. If you can't write a coherent sentence, don't expect that your logic will win the debate because your readers have already judged that you're illiterate and not worthy of further consideration.
 
2013-04-06 01:16:55 AM

Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave


Not sure if serious, but you spelled "Peeve" wrong.

Maybe it's a farkism, I haven't been here long enough...
 
2013-04-06 10:30:33 AM

tripleseven: Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave

Not sure if serious, but you spelled "Peeve" wrong.

Maybe it's a farkism, I haven't been here long enough...


You've been rotsky'd.
i13.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-06 01:02:02 PM
'tards still readin' Daily Kos?  Don't worry, scrot. Now, there are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives.
 
2013-04-06 02:39:55 PM
Chuck Wagon:

Before long you will start seeing the claims that Biden is not eligible to run for President in 2016. This is because the Muslin Usurper was never really eligible to be President and so for the past 5 years Biden was really President.

Oh, come on now.  This is getting ridiculous.  It's been proven beyond a shadow of any reasonable doubt that he is really Peau de Soie.
 
2013-04-06 02:44:32 PM

Farxist Marxist: sjmcc13: Arumat: sjmcc13:Complete BS. Not you, them...
The costs of a settlement are high, because that is how much it costs to correct the damage you are doing by "phone-ing it in" when you are doing the job. They would not have this problem if they were competent and researched how to do their job.
Train better doctors, make them keep up with the present standards and remove the licenses from the incompetent ones until they re-train. It is an industry that REQUIRES government regulation, and if they regulated it properly costs would go down.

doctors are fleeing Rural areas because they can make just as much or more in the cities, and have a better life style.
Doctors can make a lot of money, but that is only deserved when they are competent, and too many are not. Force them to charge based on a competence level test, and once their pay is affected they will straighten up.

Methinks you live in a glass house, and should refrain from the casting of stones.  I'm not even going to bother with the grammatical issues.  I do agree that Republicans are on the wrong side of this issue, but you can't argue somebody else's competence when you can't inspire confidence in your own.

/obligatory pet peave

I am Dysgraphic, and the spell checker does not work on my browser. Plus I just do not care any more, this is not work or school, and fixing the errors is not worth the effort.

Also spelling is not a sign of compotence, just something used by elietists to make themselves feel better. "It does not matter what he says, I have a PhD and he is a highschool drop-out, listen to me instead" and thing s along those lines. The logic behind the comments is what matters. Not everyone is able to express their ideas to the same level of eloquence,


BS. All you had to do was copy, letter for letter, the word "competence". It was handed to you on a spoon and you simply disregarded it. You seem to think that your logic transcends elementary school level spelling. It doesn't. If you can't ...


Well that's his point though, innit? You prejudge based on the presentation, not the content.

I say when you're too busy scrounging in the dirt to learn spelling, you probably get a myopic view of politics. But I'm an elitist liberal ninny, so there you go.
 
2013-04-06 03:26:42 PM
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"He mad"

Love how they placed the picture so it looks like B-Rock the Islamic Shock is laughing at his dumb ass.
 
2013-04-06 11:51:55 PM
"I'm going to have this thing overturned and I'm not going to pay a dime,"

That's because you don't have a dime.
 
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