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2013-04-05 03:28:22 PM

bighairyguy: Someone came out with a Facebook-centric phone a couple of years ago, never heard a peep from it after the initial promo.

Like every other non-Apple phone, it's a niche product.


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Top Five Smartphone Operating Systems, Shipments, and Market Share, 4Q12 (Units in Millions)

Operating System

4Q12 Unit Shipments

4Q12 Market Share

4Q11 Unit Shipments

4Q11 Market Share

Year over Year Change


Android
159.8

70.1%

85.0

52.9%

88.0%

iOS
47.8

21.0%

37.0

23.0%

29.2%

BlackBerry
7.4

3.2%

13.0

8.1%

-43.1%

Windows Phone/ Windows Mobile
6.0

2.6%

2.4

1.5%

150.0%

Linux
3.8

1.7%

3.9

2.4%

-2.6%

Others
3.0

1.3%

19.5

12.1%

-84.6%

Total
227.8

100.0%

160.8

100.0%

41.7%
 
2013-04-05 03:31:30 PM

tylerdurden217: Yes, people do want those things. At least the people I talk to about it. I shouldn't paint everyone with the opinion that Android phones are better with that brush. My apologies.

I think I need to check out Android again, it's been a while and maybe I would prefer it too. I've had an iPhone since the 3GS came out. I'm mostly happy with my 4S, but I'm not against checking out the android. I guess I'm too lazy to research which Android is the best. It's easy to know which iPhone is the best.


With phones at least it's gotten to a point where its kinda silly to be that attached to a brand, there will always be phone x which was released last and has all the newest bells and whistles by whomever.  They all have spotify, kindle, a camera, a web browser, facebook, a maps app and yelp - not much more I use a phone for.   I dislike Apple's walled garden policies out of principle but I very rarely use the 'freedom' of android except for getting video game emulators and roms on my nexus 7.    

If iphones had bigger screens I wouldn't mind using one.
 
2013-04-05 03:31:44 PM

Uncle Tractor: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: if they make it MORE expensive than Apple AND less functional, hipsters will rush to it.

You've probably never heard about this, but bashing Apple products and their users is the new hip.


I was doing popular things before they were popular.
 
2013-04-05 03:33:26 PM
Apple killer?  I thought Tim Cook already had that position.
 
2013-04-05 03:34:56 PM

Fausts Fist: After having owned about 10 different Blackberry phones over the last 6 years I rcently bought an Iphone 4S just to see what the hate was all about and I like it way better so far.


To be fair, that's like saying "I've eaten 10 piles of shiat over the last 6 years and just tried McDonalds for the first time and it's way better"

(that was a BB dig not an apple dig)
 
2013-04-05 03:39:12 PM

realmolo: Isn't it pretty well established that Facebook is dying out? Everyone I know has had their fill of it.

I don't expect them to disappear or anything, but I expect their active user base to shrink like crazy in the next couple of years, which will kill their advertising revenue.

It was a fad, like all the other social networking sites. Hopefully, it's the FINAL social networking site.


Everyone on facebook claims to have their breaking points, but no one I know has ever dropped off because of the changes.  New advertising in place, they threaten to leave, and they don't.   Announce all photos are usable by FB at will, everyone threatens to bail, and they don't.  Threats of instant play commercials, and everyone murmurs about leaving again... and they don't.
It's not a fad.  It's becoming a staple of communication.
 
2013-04-05 03:43:32 PM
RTFA and threw up in my mouth a little
 
2013-04-05 03:51:11 PM
I'm holding out for a /b/ phone
 
2013-04-05 03:51:29 PM

santadog: realmolo: Isn't it pretty well established that Facebook is dying out? Everyone I know has had their fill of it.

I don't expect them to disappear or anything, but I expect their active user base to shrink like crazy in the next couple of years, which will kill their advertising revenue.

It was a fad, like all the other social networking sites. Hopefully, it's the FINAL social networking site.

Everyone on facebook claims to have their breaking points, but no one I know has ever dropped off because of the changes.  New advertising in place, they threaten to leave, and they don't.   Announce all photos are usable by FB at will, everyone threatens to bail, and they don't.  Threats of instant play commercials, and everyone murmurs about leaving again... and they don't.
It's not a fad.  It's becoming a staple of communication.


I didn't bail because of privacy concerns, I don't share enough real info to care.  I bailed because 99% of my posts were images of quotes, Autism Week spam, and links to malware.  It's not Facebook, it's Pastebook.  No one communicates, they just echo.
 
2013-04-05 03:52:06 PM
Dragonflew:  I bailed because 99% of my posts were images of quotes

Not MY posts, I meant posts in my timeline from others.
 
2013-04-05 03:53:22 PM

Doc_Gerbil: I am already trying to decided if I can live without facebook, a phone that automagically hooks me into it sounds farking sweet.


Really?  You can't figure this out?  It's not that hard.
 
2013-04-05 03:56:08 PM
 
2013-04-05 03:57:43 PM

cookiefleck: bighairyguy: Someone came out with a Facebook-centric phone a couple of years ago, never heard a peep from it after the initial promo.

Like every other non-Apple phone, it's a niche product.

yup... Any picture you took would be automatically posted to facebook. I saw a commercial for it once and never heard of it again.


Missed the quote on my previous post
 
2013-04-05 03:58:05 PM
Fear is the Apple killer, the little death that brings total obliteration.
 
2013-04-05 04:01:12 PM
Apple was killed long ago, but the Galaxy S3 was the last nail in the coffin. The Galaxy S3 alone had more market share than all of Apple's iPhones combined. But now Apple is sub-20% global share and shrinking each year.
 
2013-04-05 04:02:10 PM

Mad_Radhu: Fear is the Apple killer, the little death that brings total obliteration.


I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me and when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. where the fear has gone there will be nothing. only I will remain
 
2013-04-05 04:03:22 PM
Is there talk of a Pornbook phone? I'd like to straight dial up some porn.
 
2013-04-05 04:05:13 PM

bighairyguy: Someone came out with a Facebook-centric phone a couple of years ago, never heard a peep from it after the initial promo.

Like every other non-Apple phone, it's a niche product.


It wasn't Facebook centric... it just had a hardware button to launch the Facebook app.

I was kind of amused that the author claimed it was the first time you could respond to messages without closing the article you're reading... because Samsung has allowed multiple apps on the same screen for a while now. He must use an iPhone which severely limits what you can do.
 
2013-04-05 04:07:25 PM
I was delayed, I was way-laid
An emergency stop
I smelt the last ten seconds of life
I crashed down on the crossbar
And the pain was enough to make
A shy, bald, buddhist reflect
And plan a mass murder
Who said lied I'd to her ?
 
2013-04-05 04:07:55 PM

cookiefleck: bighairyguy: Someone came out with a Facebook-centric phone a couple of years ago, never heard a peep from it after the initial promo.

Like every other non-Apple phone, it's a niche product.

yup... Any picture you took would be automatically posted to facebook. I saw a commercial for it once and never heard of it again.


Wieners, wieners everywhere!

You can actually do that in the current version of the Android Facebook app. Mine just syncs to a private album. Kind of like dropbox/picturestream/whatever. Free cloud storage.
 
2013-04-05 04:09:55 PM

DashFieldpaint: These are the people that gave us that crap Facebook app, which has consistently been the most unstable app on my phones.  They're going to make a home screen replacement?

This isn't Facebook Home.  This is Facebook LAG.

Facebook home is the best thing that can happen for Apple. It'll give Android users the type of laggy and force closey experience that drives people to buy iPhones.

Facebook is making my phone suck = My phone sucks = buy an iPhone.

slashy/ pre-ordered a G1, currently on my 5th Android phone, and I use an iPhone 4 as a company phone


They've improved the Android app quite a bit lately. They admitted they hadn't been working on it much because they're all 1%ers and use iPhones.

But on iPhone you aren't allowed to delete the Facebook app because it is integrated into the OS, so if you want to avoid Facebook you can't own Apple products.
 
2013-04-05 04:11:00 PM

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fusilade is monocot-specific, dumbass.
 
2013-04-05 04:12:15 PM

farkingatwork: I'm amused facebook is doing this at a time when people are getting sensitive about their privacy, most notably about facebook's own products.

If there were ever a time to not release such a product, now would be that time.




Who are these "people" you are talking about, Mr. get-off-my-lawn man? The amount of people who are concerned about this kind of security is vastly overwhelmed by the people who, like the gay marriage stuff, "just don't care."

Personally, I'm more than happy trying to spend less time on my electronic doodads, and really, having facebook as a home screen isn't for me, but there's a whole generation who feel enabled and empowered about connecting with their friends electronically, and they are ultimately willing to live with an environment of "so they can track me, no big deal, as long as I can connect as fast and as easy as possible". And really, that's probably going to be the way of the future, for better or for worse, unless something amazingly terrible happens.

Like killing off the bee population with cell phone towers, but I guess that's another story.
 
2013-04-05 04:13:02 PM

lilplatinum: A facebook phone?  Facebook can't even make a decent app for either ios or android, but I'm sure their OS is going to be straight up baller.


It isn't an OS, but good of you to let us know you didn't read the article.
 
2013-04-05 04:23:59 PM

Dragonflew: I bailed because 99% of my posts were images of quotes, Autism Week spam, and links to malware.


Admit it, it was impoverished orphans with down syndrome and cancer fund raising banners that finally got you mad.
 
2013-04-05 04:24:33 PM
 
2013-04-05 04:25:53 PM

snowshovel: farkingatwork: I'm amused facebook is doing this at a time when people are getting sensitive about their privacy, most notably about facebook's own products.

If there were ever a time to not release such a product, now would be that time.

Who are these "people" you are talking about, Mr. get-off-my-lawn man? The amount of people who are concerned about this kind of security is vastly overwhelmed by the people who, like the gay marriage stuff, "just don't care."

Personally, I'm more than happy trying to spend less time on my electronic doodads, and really, having facebook as a home screen isn't for me, but there's a whole generation who feel enabled and empowered about connecting with their friends electronically, and they are ultimately willing to live with an environment of "so they can track me, no big deal, as long as I can connect as fast and as easy as possible". And really, that's probably going to be the way of the future, for better or for worse, unless something amazingly terrible happens.

Like killing off the bee population with cell phone towers, but I guess that's another story.


Yeah sure. It's no big deal if it's only used by tweens and other, mostly un- or underemployed, people. But those simply -as stated- don't give a shiat. The vocal minority that DO care have valid concerns though. The firm I work for has a strict 'no social media' policy and let me tell you, walking into the offices with facebook home on your phone would probably get you fired - from a cannon. out the window.
You know what's the first thing a divorce (or any other civil) lawyer does? Check facebook of both parties. Hell I've even seen cases get declined after a cursory glance at a potential clients profile declares him/her a mouthbreathing retard.

I personally can't see anything good about 'facebook home' on the other hand though, being able to get GPS logs with those fb conversations would be hilarious.
 
2013-04-05 04:28:25 PM
So if I meet someone with one of these things, I can rest assured that they're an attention-whoring asshat who will just piss me off, eventually?

Because that's kind of my feeling about Facebook and the people who frequent it.
 
2013-04-05 04:29:17 PM

trappedspirit: Dragonflew: I bailed because 99% of my posts were images of quotes, Autism Week spam, and links to malware.

Admit it, it was impoverished orphans with down syndrome and cancer fund raising banners that finally got you mad.


I caught your snark, but if you're going to spam Autism Week, learn when it is.  Hint: it's not every week. My point is that all that most people do is just blindly spam all their friends the second they see "share this".  The signal to noise ratio on FB is awful.
 
2013-04-05 04:31:14 PM

rikkitikkitavi: Is there talk of a Pornbook phone? I'd like to straight dial up some porn.


They're still working on a splooge-resistant screen.
 
2013-04-05 04:35:23 PM

Fausts Fist: Yeah sure. It's no big deal if it's only used by tweens and other, mostly un- or underemployed, people. But those simply -as stated- don't give a shiat. The vocal minority that DO care have valid concerns though. The firm I work for has a strict 'no social media' policy and let me tell you, walking into the offices with facebook home on your phone would probably get you fired - from a cannon. out the window.
You know what's the first thing a divorce (or any other civil) lawyer does? Check facebook of both parties. Hell I've even seen cases get declined after a cursory glance at a potential clients profile declares him/her a mouthbreathing retard.


These aren't problems with facebook privacy, but rather problems with dipshiats who broadcast dumb things about themselves on the internet.  If you are posting pictures of yourself whoring around while you are still married, the problem isn't facebook.
 
2013-04-05 04:42:26 PM

lilplatinum: Fausts Fist: Yeah sure. It's no big deal if it's only used by tweens and other, mostly un- or underemployed, people. But those simply -as stated- don't give a shiat. The vocal minority that DO care have valid concerns though. The firm I work for has a strict 'no social media' policy and let me tell you, walking into the offices with facebook home on your phone would probably get you fired - from a cannon. out the window.
You know what's the first thing a divorce (or any other civil) lawyer does? Check facebook of both parties. Hell I've even seen cases get declined after a cursory glance at a potential clients profile declares him/her a mouthbreathing retard.

These aren't problems with facebook privacy, but rather problems with dipshiats who broadcast dumb things about themselves on the internet.  If you are posting pictures of yourself whoring around while you are still married, the problem isn't facebook.


That's a weapon/killing problem.  Facebook just facilitates that kind of behaviour like nothing else. I don't care if the CEO of Asswipes Inc across the street goes downtown every evening and lets people spit on him for money. But I DO care if I need to represent him in court and he has pictures of that on his wall.

Fact is, every year facebook gets more integrated into daily life and the goddamn stupid shiat people do gets pushed to a larger audience. So more people do the same stupid shiat. Next year, last years shiat doesn't stink as bad so the idiots keep shoveling more fresh shiat on the pile. And in the end it's shiat all the way down.
 
2013-04-05 04:43:23 PM
People who want the Facebook phone deserve it.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-05 04:44:36 PM

L.D. Ablo: People still use Facebook?


Yes, you can upgrade your MySpace phone now.
 
2013-04-05 04:47:37 PM

lilplatinum: tylerdurden217: Yes, people do want those things. At least the people I talk to about it. I shouldn't paint everyone with the opinion that Android phones are better with that brush. My apologies.

I think I need to check out Android again, it's been a while and maybe I would prefer it too. I've had an iPhone since the 3GS came out. I'm mostly happy with my 4S, but I'm not against checking out the android. I guess I'm too lazy to research which Android is the best. It's easy to know which iPhone is the best.

With phones at least it's gotten to a point where its kinda silly to be that attached to a brand, there will always be phone x which was released last and has all the newest bells and whistles by whomever.  They all have spotify, kindle, a camera, a web browser, facebook, a maps app and yelp - not much more I use a phone for.   I dislike Apple's walled garden policies out of principle but I very rarely use the 'freedom' of android except for getting video game emulators and roms on my nexus 7.    

If iphones had bigger screens I wouldn't mind using one.


I didn't realize how small their screens actually were until I looked at one sitting next to my galaxy s3. That is one small screen. It is probably no bigger than the one on my old intercept. That whole iphone 4s could fit in my screen.
 
2013-04-05 04:56:17 PM
There is a FB app available for my Android.  I want even start it up.  If I want to check FB, I simply use the browser and let FB feed me the mobile version.  Seems to work well enough.  I deffinitely do NOT want an actual app from them intruding on my phone.

To get a phone specifically for that purpose screams of ridiculous FB addtiction.

Step away from it, man.  Step away.
 
2013-04-05 05:06:27 PM
WinoRhino: "I think a lot of people who left MySpace for Facebook, and then leave Facebook eventually will just say "Screw it" and not use anything else."

They'll use this little thing we call *the rest of the Internet*.  I'm starting to wonder to what degree Facebook succeeded because people who were too intimidated by the (admittedly pretty obtuse) rest of the internet used it as a socially-acceptable opt-in AOL.  It certainly seems like those are the sorts of people who (ab)use it the most.
 
2013-04-05 05:08:33 PM

dryknife: Christian Mingle Phone


GPS tracking software powered by Jesus 2.1TM
 
2013-04-05 05:43:56 PM

Danger Avoid Death: dryknife: Christian Mingle Phone

GPS tracking software powered by Jesus 2.1TM


I hear the Jesus software has some holes in it.
 
2013-04-05 05:54:07 PM
I'm still waiting for the Geocities phone. Hopefully it will have the latest edition of winamp already included.
 
2013-04-05 06:03:38 PM

12monkeys: I'm still waiting for the Geocities phone. Hopefully it will have the latest edition of winamp RealPlayer already included.


FTFY
 
2013-04-05 06:05:41 PM

12monkeys: I'm still waiting for the Geocities phone. Hopefully it will have the latest edition of winamp already included.


That would really kick the llama's ass.
 
2013-04-05 06:19:20 PM
Apple killer?
s1.postimg.org
It's called a codling moth
 
2013-04-05 07:09:49 PM
Why would I want to integrate my phone even more with facebook? Aside from that, Samsung is already eating away steadily at Apple, though they may have shot themselves in the foot with the S4.
 
2013-04-05 07:44:28 PM

ringersol: WinoRhino: "I think a lot of people who left MySpace for Facebook, and then leave Facebook eventually will just say "Screw it" and not use anything else."

They'll use this little thing we call *the rest of the Internet*.  I'm starting to wonder to what degree Facebook succeeded because people who were too intimidated by the (admittedly pretty obtuse) rest of the internet used it as a socially-acceptable opt-in AOL.  It certainly seems like those are the sorts of people who (ab)use it the most.




Yeah, this is an interesting issue. Back with myspace, you needed to know how to use the internet. Nowadays, for a lot of people, facebook IS the internet and they don't go anywhere else. Hell, a lot of people essentially use the free games on facebook as their very own console game...granted, it's venn diagram doesn't match up with console gamers at all. But it was an untapped market that was waiting to be filled.
 
2013-04-05 09:49:25 PM

L.D. Ablo: People still use Facebook?


This.
"Deactivated" last month.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-04-05 10:31:04 PM
Shiatball Slate site tries to load so much crap it hung up Firefox while it was blocking scripts/ads.
/fark them
 
2013-04-05 10:51:57 PM

CygnusDarius: I've killed apples for years. They're damn tasty, and a good ingredient for sweet strudels.


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm strudel
 
2013-04-05 11:18:50 PM

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 300x202]

How can this phone fail?


does it come with an econdom for your phone?
 
2013-04-05 11:18:55 PM

uttertosh: CygnusDarius: uttertosh: CygnusDarius: I've killed apples for years. They're damn tasty, and a good ingredient for sweet strudels.

Wot? You don't scrump? poofter.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x200]

heh!

what's that from?


Inglorious Basterds. More specifically, this scene.
 
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