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(Slate)   Stop me if you've heard this one before: There's a new Apple-killer about to hit the market. No, I'm serious   (slate.com) divider line 154
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2013-04-05 02:33:36 PM  

Rootus: because where are you going to go?


Back to reality? Seriously, it's such a waste of time. I think a lot of people who left MySpace for Facebook, and then leave Facebook eventually will just say "Screw it" and not use anything else. At least, that's what it seems like is happening with my friends and family.
 
2013-04-05 02:35:51 PM  
A facebook phone?  Facebook can't even make a decent app for either ios or android, but I'm sure their OS is going to be straight up baller.
 
2013-04-05 02:36:12 PM  
This is great news to me.  I think I going to get this to replace my MySpace Phone.
 
2013-04-05 02:39:40 PM  

Muta: This is great news to me.  I think I going to get this to replace my MySpace Phone.


I am never giving up my AOL phone!

keyword: awesome!
 
2013-04-05 02:41:14 PM  
Apple's popularity will be the Apple Killer.
 
2013-04-05 02:41:24 PM  
I am going to side with the paranoid tin foil hat crowd.

Why the hell would I want a corporation tracking my every move and harvesting EVERY bit of info that passes through my phone.
 
2013-04-05 02:42:12 PM  

Muta: This is great news to me.  I think I going to get this to replace my MySpace Phone.


I was thinking of getting one of those, but I'm still happy with my IRC ham radio.
 
2013-04-05 02:42:45 PM  

WinoRhino: Rootus: because where are you going to go?

Back to reality? Seriously, it's such a waste of time. I think a lot of people who left MySpace for Facebook, and then leave Facebook eventually will just say "Screw it" and not use anything else. At least, that's what it seems like is happening with my friends and family.


I think people will move to more targeted networks centered around hobbies or particular social scenes. Having this massive umbrella that has everyone from one night stands to your grandmother and employer under it has become rather unattractive.
 
2013-04-05 02:43:10 PM  

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 300x202]

How can this phone fail?


I don't care about the phones and all that, but if she'd be part of the package, tested and cleaned, I'd seriously consider one.

Haters can hate, but I find her quite attractive.
 
2013-04-05 02:43:52 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I am going to side with the paranoid tin foil hat crowd.

Why the hell would I want a corporation tracking my every move and harvesting EVERY bit of info that passes through my phone.


I'm seriously hoping that you're just being ironic here....
 
2013-04-05 02:44:18 PM  

WinoRhino: How in the world did you interpret that as being anti-apple fanboi? The iphone is, in fact, a mediocre-to-good smart phone that has a very loyal following. Apple won't vanish from the phone market because it has a decent device and a lot of people who like it, REALLY really like it. But somehow because I didn't kiss it's ass and call it Jesus I was disrespecting it?


In fact? now we have a scientific metric for smartphone quality? You expressed an opinion that was snarky and obviously anti-apple. I'm sure you have much better ideas for a phone design but you aren't going to tell us until a phone comes out that you don't like. Then you'll tell us how they got it all wrong.

Apple spent the R&D money to come out with a phone that became the gold standard. Every phone that came out after the iPhone has copied and mimicked (and many times improved upon) features that the iPhone has. They have faster processors, cameras with higher resolution, bigger screens, but who cares?

The Camero ZL1 has a supercharged V8 that puts out 580HP, but I'd still rather have the 911 Carrera at 350 HP. There are diminishing returns on things like processor speed, MegaPixels, screensize and, in the case of cars, BHP.
 
2013-04-05 02:44:57 PM  

WinoRhino: AbbeySomeone: /obscure

How are the Talking Heads obscure?


Silly Wino, it's sarcasm.

BullBearMS: Facebook Home should put privacy advocates on alert, for this application erodes any idea of privacy. If you install this, then it is very likely that Facebook is going to be able to track your every move, and every little action. As Zuckerberg said - unlike the iPhone and iOS, Android allows Facebook to do whatever it wants on the platform, and that means accessing the hardware as well.

The problem is that Facebook is going to use all this data - not to improve our lives - but to target better marketing and advertising messages at us. Zuckerberg made no bones about the fact that Facebook will be pushing ads on Home.

And most importantly it is Facebook, a company that is known to have played loose-and-easy with consumer privacy and data since its very inception, asking for forgiveness whenever we caught them with its hand in the cookie jar. I don't think we can be that forgiving or reactive with Facebook on mobile.

Giving Facebook and Google realtime access to your GPS data? Genius.


Yet people will wait in line and drop to their knees in worship to sign up for this sh*t. Idiots!
 
2013-04-05 02:46:07 PM  

dryknife: Holding out for TwitterPhone.


Holding out for Reddit phone.

not really

dont care enough to use correct punctuation
 
2013-04-05 02:46:51 PM  
Apple Killer - Sorry but that's already on the market: Cancer.
 
2013-04-05 02:47:20 PM  

AbbeySomeone: Silly Wino, it's sarcasm


My bad. :) I was trying to defend against being old enough to have the album on vinyl. :)
 
2013-04-05 02:47:35 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: if they make it MORE expensive than Apple AND less functional, hipsters will rush to it.


didn't RTFA? it's just a mod that makes the front-end Facebook-centric. it doesn't remove any functionality.
 
2013-04-05 02:47:49 PM  
The only possible iPhone killer was the Palm Pre/WebOs.

Problem is... they screwed it up in an award winning way.

Android is crap, overly complex, annoying to use, and I've yet to use two phones that has the same approach aside the basics.

I'd go with a BlackBerry before anything else... I'd even consider the iPhone before an Android one.

But I've seen the demo video for "ubuntu mobile" and that's got some serious potential if it gets picked up.
 
2013-04-05 02:48:06 PM  

bighairyguy: Someone came out with a Facebook-centric phone a couple of years ago, never heard a peep from it after the initial promo.

Like every other non-Apple phone, it's a niche product.


The HTC Status?
 
2013-04-05 02:48:22 PM  
i745.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-05 02:48:39 PM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: Apple's popularity will be the Apple Killer.


The hipsters moved on long ago and are now bragging about how rebellious they are to be on their 83rd Android phone, 'I knew Android was It before Samsung rounded their first corner.' iPhone is the now the conservative, it just works option. And that's not a bad place to be as long as they keep their amazing margins.
 
2013-04-05 02:52:52 PM  
Craigslist phone?
 
2013-04-05 02:53:39 PM  
"The basic assumption behind Facebook Home is that you'd rather see what your friends are up to at any given moment than do things"

and that's the ultimate question. if facebook is a priority for 90% of smartphone users, then yes, this will probably be another advantage for android. otherwise, I'll think of it as just an unecessary extension of the android facebook app and probably never use it. If more people are like me then it's not gonna do anything for android. either way, "apple killer" is a pretty big stretch. google maps are more of an apple killer at this point!
 
2013-04-05 02:53:43 PM  

tylerdurden217: In fact? now we have a scientific metric for smartphone quality? You expressed an opinion that was snarky and obviously anti-apple.


I think you and the OP I was responding to are getting a bit carried away. The iPhone is not everyone's favorite, is it? Are there better features on other phones? Did I say Apple sucked? Did I say anything negative about it? No. I said it was a mediocre to good device, which, while not a rave, and certainly not scientific, is accurate. I fully admit to being glib with the use of the word "fact", especially since I was posting opinion. But when it comes down to it, I really didn't fall on either side of the fence, even though it is clear I lean away from Apple.
 
2013-04-05 02:55:07 PM  
I'll hold out for the Mayberry phone.  I won't have to dial any numbers, just ask Sara to get me whoever I want to talk to.l
 
2013-04-05 02:55:36 PM  
I'm amused facebook is doing this at a time when people are getting sensitive about their privacy, most notably about facebook's own products.

If there were ever a time to not release such a product, now would be that time.
 
2013-04-05 02:55:52 PM  
You want me to buy a device with some other company's interface preinstalled on it, then obtain and install your interface on it that does less and hasn't been tested as well?

Hold on, let me finish formatting this hard drive so I can install BeOS over Windows 98 first.
 
2013-04-05 02:55:59 PM  
I'm seriously considering going back to a land line, exclusively. Something with a big, comfortable receiver, and one of those shoulder rest thingies.

If I worked from home, I would pull the trigger on this plan right now.
 
2013-04-05 02:56:00 PM  

WinoRhino: pedobearapproved: "The Anti-Apple Fanboy Squad" is here to save us from things they don't like.

How in the world did you interpret that as being anti-apple fanboi? The iphone is, in fact, a mediocre-to-good smart phone that has a very loyal following. Apple won't vanish from the phone market because it has a decent device and a lot of people who like it, REALLY really like it. But somehow because I didn't kiss it's ass and call it Jesus I was disrespecting it?


I know it doesn't look up hookers on Craigslist for you but it's still among the best smart phones you can buy. And while the Galaxy sIII is probably the best phone on the market right now no one picks one up and goes "Oh Jesus, this thing..how do other things even exsist when this is on the market."  In other words If it's "mediocre-to-good" so is everything else, or your standards are too high because it doesn't have features that don't exsist yet, or you just don't like Apple.

And if you come back with "Apple doesn't have NFC, and the S3 can host up to 5 more people on a mobile hotspot" I'm going to laugh even harder.
 
2013-04-05 02:58:05 PM  

PaLarkin: I'll hold out for the Mayberry phone.  I won't have to dial any numbers, just ask Sara to get me whoever I want to talk to.l


I think it only connects to numbers in Raleigh or Mt. Pilot.
 
2013-04-05 02:58:15 PM  

tylerdurden217: They have faster processors, cameras with higher resolution, bigger screens, but who cares?


People who want faster phones with bigger screens and better cameras?

In early android apple could still say "who cares, we have the best OS", but that advantage is no longer even relevant, the new android OS is just as slick as ios (better IMO but OS preference is largely just that).
 
2013-04-05 02:58:42 PM  
I just got my first Windows phone. And, as much as I hate to say, I love the damned thing.
 
2013-04-05 02:59:06 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I think people will move to more targeted networks centered around hobbies or particular social scenes. Having this massive umbrella that has everyone from one night stands to your grandmother and employer under it has become rather unattractive.


That's a good point. I frequent the Homebrewtalk web site and forums all the time, but I won't edit my profile or go there just to see what's happening. I just use it as a reference and a place to post questions, etc. The social networking portion of any of those sites doesn't interest me, but then again, that's just my personal taste.
 
2013-04-05 02:59:48 PM  

WinoRhino: AbbeySomeone: Silly Wino, it's sarcasm

My bad. :) I was trying to defend against being old enough to have the album on vinyl. :)


I saw them perform it live, in a bar. You're not the only old one here.
 
2013-04-05 03:01:47 PM  
"The basic assumption behind Facebook Home is that you'd rather see what your friends are up to at any given moment than do things"

Your friends aren't doing things, either.  They're sitting on their asses wherever they are, just like you, staring into a little box and trying to find out what their friends are up to.  Their friends aren't doing things, either.  They're sitting on their asses wherever they are...
 
2013-04-05 03:01:53 PM  
Christian Mingle Phone
 
2013-04-05 03:03:24 PM  
So its a replacement GUI for android phones that also inserts facebook into everything you do on your phone including gps? No farking thanks.
 
2013-04-05 03:04:07 PM  

WinoRhino: HotWingConspiracy: I think people will move to more targeted networks centered around hobbies or particular social scenes. Having this massive umbrella that has everyone from one night stands to your grandmother and employer under it has become rather unattractive.

That's a good point. I frequent the Homebrewtalk web site and forums all the time, but I won't edit my profile or go there just to see what's happening. I just use it as a reference and a place to post questions, etc. The social networking portion of any of those sites doesn't interest me, but then again, that's just my personal taste.


Well posting questions and getting answers is a social activity. I think FB has warped our notions of what socialbility is online.
 
2013-04-05 03:05:17 PM  

learn2fly: I just got my first Windows phone. And, as much as I hate to say, I love the damned thing.


I have lost all respect for you, whoever you are!
 
2013-04-05 03:06:16 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: I am going to side with the paranoid tin foil hat crowd.

Why the hell would I want a corporation tracking my every move and harvesting EVERY bit of info that passes through my phone.


What makes you think that some major corporation doesn't do that already?
 
2013-04-05 03:07:30 PM  

pedobearapproved: I know it doesn't look up hookers on Craigslist for you


Great opening-- it stung! But now that you were so clever I'm going to finish reading your post.

pedobearapproved: still among the best smart phones you can buy


Sure. It's among them.

pedobearapproved: And while the Galaxy sIII is probably the best phone on the market right now


A lot of people agree with that, yeah.

pedobearapproved: no one picks one up and goes "Oh Jesus, this thing..how do other things even exsist when this is on the market."


Exactly true.

pedobearapproved: In other words If it's "mediocre-to-good" so is everything else,


Yeah, that's pretty much my point.

pedobearapproved: or you just don't like Apple.


I don't "don't like" Apple.

So let's review: I agree with everything you just said. My original post said Apple wasn't going anywhere because it had a decent device with a large following. And suddenly you foam at mouth and feel the need to accuse me of fornication with loose women. I suspect it was the use of the word mediocre. If it makes you feel better, I'll take that one word back.

I will still stick to my guns with point 2: it is my strong opinion that Facebook sucks and I will not be convinced otherwise.
 
2013-04-05 03:13:06 PM  

pedobearapproved: sleeper2995: Wow I thought Apple/Mac was dead technology years ago. I never bought into the fad.

WinoRhino: 1. Nothing will ever "kill" Apple because even though it's just a mediocre-to-good smart phone, the brand loyalty will never go away.

"The Anti-Apple Fanboy Squad" is here to save us from things they don't like.


Bears repeating. Or Pedobears repeating, I guess.
 
2013-04-05 03:13:12 PM  

Doc_Gerbil: A facebook phone is about the last thing I'd want.

I am already trying to decided if I can live without facebook, a phone that automagically hooks me into it sounds farking sweet.



Pretty much this.  I gave up my ATT ~$160/mo Facebook Phone for a $19.95 Republic Wireless phone, just because I was tired of all the extra bullshiat.  

It will still do FB, but it's so slow and crap that I save if for when I really need to interact with someone.  Usually it's too painful to stay screwing around on it for hours - which is what I wanted.
 
2013-04-05 03:17:38 PM  

lilplatinum: tylerdurden217: They have faster processors, cameras with higher resolution, bigger screens, but who cares?

People who want faster phones with bigger screens and better cameras?

In early android apple could still say "who cares, we have the best OS", but that advantage is no longer even relevant, the new android OS is just as slick as ios (better IMO but OS preference is largely just that).


Yes, people do want those things. At least the people I talk to about it. I shouldn't paint everyone with the opinion that Android phones are better with that brush. My apologies.

I think I need to check out Android again, it's been a while and maybe I would prefer it too. I've had an iPhone since the 3GS came out. I'm mostly happy with my 4S, but I'm not against checking out the android. I guess I'm too lazy to research which Android is the best. It's easy to know which iPhone is the best.
 
2013-04-05 03:19:29 PM  

WinoRhino: I think you and the OP I was responding to are getting a bit carried away. The iPhone is not everyone's favorite, is it? Are there better features on other phones? Did I say Apple sucked? Did I say anything negative about it? No. I said it was a mediocre to good device, which, while not a rave, and certainly not scientific, is accurate. I fully admit to being glib with the use of the word "fact", especially since I was posting opinion. But when it comes down to it, I really didn't fall on either side of the fence, even though it is clear I lean away from Apple.


You're right, I did get a bit carried away. I hadn't had lunch yet, I'm feeling much more agreeable now that I have. Sorry about that. I use the word fact to describe my opinions too. Mostly because they are always right... jk
 
2013-04-05 03:21:15 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: if they make it MORE expensive than Apple AND less functional, hipsters will rush to it.


You've probably never heard about this, but bashing Apple products and their users is the new hip.
 
2013-04-05 03:21:24 PM  
I am really trying hard to contain my bilious vomit at this news right now. Ugh do not want.
 
2013-04-05 03:24:47 PM  
DNRTFA, but speaking of Apple.

After having owned about 10 different Blackberry phones over the last 6 years I rcently bought an Iphone 4S just to see what the hate was all about and I like it way better so far.

So could someone please - concisely - sum up what's bad about Iphones? Because I'm genuinely curious.


/Facebook on the other hand can happily go die in a fire.
 
2013-04-05 03:25:33 PM  
"After that, every time you turn on your phone you'll see a feed of photos and updates from your friends. You can flip through the pictures, Like them, and even comment on things without ever unlocking your device."

Methinks they're missing the whole POINT of locking the device.  This is idiotic.
 
2013-04-05 03:25:49 PM  

CygnusDarius: uttertosh: CygnusDarius: I've killed apples for years. They're damn tasty, and a good ingredient for sweet strudels.

Wot? You don't scrump? poofter.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x200]


heh!

what's that from?
 
2013-04-05 03:26:00 PM  

L.D. Ablo: People still use Facebook?


Apparently they use it to tell people what a wonderful time they are having at Olive Garden.

/Tholive Garden
 
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