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(BBC)   South Korea deploys warships to track North Korean missiles if launched, possibly by following the trail of debris floating in the ocean   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-04-06 12:13:58 AM  

Professor Farksworth: Reason Two: Its very surreal to be talking about a Nuclear War in 2013 for EVERYBODY no matter when you were born.

If you lived through the Cold War, its surreal to have this black cloud hanging over the world again. Granted, its not to the extent it was during the Cold War, but its still an odd feeling that not only are we talking about a Nuclear War, but every day it seems like it might actually happen. Everybody has always said you have to be crazy to want to start a war with Nukes and it seems like Un may just be crazy enough to hit the button.

As for the people like me (I'm 21) who didn't grow up in the Cold War, and only learned about it in textbooks, its equally surreal that we're talking about being on the brink of a Nuclear War, no matter how valid Un's threats are. People my age have had to deal with Terrorism growing up but we've never had Nukes aimed at us with someone hovering their hand over the Big Red Button. Now I'm not saying that Un is going to launch or even that they could even make it to the United States, but the fact that he is  threateningto launch Nukes is just so mind blowing that I can't help but be curious, if not a little anxious about what could happen.


I never thought, I'd start a post like this, but...listen son, I've lived through the height of the cold war about 60 miles from about 400000 Soviet troops, less than 10 miles from a nuclear missile silo and 2 miles from a decent size NATO anti-aircraft missile battery. If the shiat had ever hit the fan, we pretty much would have been the first ones to go.
There were times when things got really hairy (Able Archer anyone?), but it was all good, because both sides knew it would be a lose/lose situation.
This Best Korean thing isn't even close. I don't worry about mine or my family's safety, not for a second. I don't know where the closest fall out shelter is, and I don't care to check. There is no way that a Nork missile could harm anyone around me (I'm on the west coast). I doubt, the Norks are capable of firing any nuclear material far beyong their borders with any precision. If they do, they will not get one in return. They'll get blasted to hell, but only with conventional weapons. The US, China and Russia are going to make sure, that none of them is releasing any ICBMs on anyone. They now better.
I still hope, that this is just some brainfart by little chub and nothing more.
War is hell.
The folks in North and South Korea just want to live their lives like we do..well kinda sorta close anyway.
They're just regular folks, men, women, children.
If things turn bad and all hell breaks loose, hopefully we'll be able to help the Norks on their way to a better future without killing half of 'em and turning whatever little they have into rubble.
 
2013-04-06 12:14:10 AM  

Noekken: CygnusDarius: The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory.


What about the lamentations of their women?  Can't really call it a war without some good lamentations now, can you?  Sheesh.  Nobody respects the traditional values any more.


Good point.  Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.
 
2013-04-06 12:16:02 AM  

TommyDeuce: So you're saying they should aim for Austin?


Well I do believe we are on the shortlist.  I'm ok with that, might free up some parking spaces.
 
2013-04-06 12:21:15 AM  

echomike23: let all at the least step back for a second and remind ourselves that this...is FARK.

oh and to lighten the mood may i present a korean cake

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]


That is indeed a Korean cake: topped with fruit and cherry tomatoes (which, to Koreans, ARE fruit).
 
2013-04-06 02:32:52 AM  

ciberido: echomike23: let all at the least step back for a second and remind ourselves that this...is FARK.

oh and to lighten the mood may i present a korean cake

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]

That is indeed a Korean cake: topped with fruit and cherry tomatoes (which, to Koreans, ARE fruit).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato#Fruit_or_vegetable.3F
 
2013-04-06 07:21:03 AM  

pdrake: both sides lose


www.hindustantimes.com


The problem with this graphic is that it includes the US in the South, but completely leaves out China in the North.
Invalid comparison is invalid.
 
2013-04-06 03:54:04 PM  

pdrake: i still hope it doesn't come to an armed conflict.


Frustratingly, not everyone feels that way. And honestly, after seeing the society that South Korea has built (in contrast to what the same people on the other side of the border have "accomplished" in the same time period), and reading about the shiat they have to put up with from north of the Border, I've become downright fond of them. I absolutely wish them peace, and I hope that reunification ends up being less traumatic than most people expect it to be.
 
2013-04-06 03:58:08 PM  

eatin' fetus: Obviously, if the prediction is April 10th, the attack has already been deployed. The container ship with the nuke is probably East of Guam by now.


Shiat... I'll be in San Francisco, not far from the waterfront...
 
2013-04-06 04:27:40 PM  

The Southern Dandy: The problem with this graphic is that it includes the US in the South, but completely leaves out China in the North.


On that point specifically - my understanding is that the U.S. is treaty-bound to defend South Korea in the event of invasion. Our forces are already actively and openly deployed, right there at the border, in a defensive role. So - a unified, already-defined, and quantifiable force, albeit a multi-national one.

I do not believe that China has any such agreement with North Korea. No binding guarantee of defense (or "defense"). No deployed or committed troops (certainly not openly like the U.S. forces, and probably not much covertly beyond "advisors"). So - currently, there's nothing really that can be quantified as their contribution to NK's force. If something were to happen, they might send 2 troops, or 2 million, but as it stands currently, they're contributing nothing.
 
2013-04-06 05:36:55 PM  

BigNumber12: The Southern Dandy: The problem with this graphic is that it includes the US in the South, but completely leaves out China in the North.

On that point specifically - my understanding is that the U.S. is treaty-bound to defend South Korea in the event of invasion. Our forces are already actively and openly deployed, right there at the border, in a defensive role. So - a unified, already-defined, and quantifiable force, albeit a multi-national one.

I do not believe that China has any such agreement with North Korea. No binding guarantee of defense (or "defense"). No deployed or committed troops (certainly not openly like the U.S. forces, and probably not much covertly beyond "advisors"). So - currently, there's nothing really that can be quantified as their contribution to NK's force. If something were to happen, they might send 2 troops, or 2 million, but as it stands currently, they're contributing nothing.


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