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2013-04-05 01:30:20 PM  
While I like open carry; it's probably a good idea to consider what area of town you are going to be walking through. Some people tend to freeeeeak the fark out when they see someone who is open carrying; even when it is 100% legal.

/ I try not to frequent businesses that have the no ccw sign; it's kind of like sticking a sign out saying "rob me, please"
 
2013-04-05 01:31:26 PM  

Lawnchair: xenophon10k: I'll eat somewhere else. I'll be honest, I don't trust most other people with anything more dangerous than string.

The question is "where else to eat"?  Sure, the place with the 'gun night' will have a higher proportion of gun carriers than other restaurants.  But, by the percentages of people with concealed guns in my state, I can be reasonably confident there are at least a half-dozen guns around any time I'm in a relatively full restaurant.  The concealed carriers I know don't pay the slightest attention to door signs without metal detectors ("nobody will know I'm carrying, unless I get to be a big damned hero, then nobody will care").

Once you start realizing that 10% or more of people are carrying around you, pretty much anywhere unless you work in an airport, you start rethinking a few things.

A) If it were really that dangerous, there'd be a lot more shootouts than we currently have.

but

B) Probability suggests that there weren't at least a half-dozen guns in the Aurora movie theater when James Holmes started shooting.  Nobody pulled one.  Making me think that, even among gun carriers, "get the fark out of here" is the natural response to such a situation, not "big damned hero".


That's an interesting point about the Aurora theater.  I wonder if any of the patrons did have a gun, but chose not to use it due to the confusion of the situation.  Then again, perhaps no gun owners were of the mind that they wanted to go see a midnight premier of a batman movie.
 
2013-04-05 01:32:17 PM  

xenophon10k: I'll eat somewhere else. I'll be honest, I don't trust most other people with anything more dangerous than string.


Then don't ever come to Alaska.  We don't even need permits to carry concealed.  Just assume that 20-30% of the people around you have some sort of firearm on them.
 
2013-04-05 01:33:29 PM  

lostcat: GUTSU: dudicon: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

So the people who aren't so scared of the world they feel the need to be armed at all times are the pussies?

Wanting to be able to defend yourself is now being equated with being a pussy? You sure are grasping at straws, aren't you?

I think he's saying that because you apparently live in fear of everyone around you every moment of your life, you are a bit of a coward.

That's just my interpretation.


If he thinks people with guns live in constant fear, he's wrong. I use guns all the time and I'm not in constant fear I don't even think about my gun.
Why you people believe gun owners are paranoid schizophrenic's is beyond me, but I'm going to guess it's because you don't actually know any.
 
2013-04-05 01:34:27 PM  

noitsnot: I'm waiting for all the "accidentally shot self in leg, groin, or belly" stories.  Bring 'em on.


Is this all you whiny pussies got?
You just parrot on about all the bad things that are gonna happen..

OK.  I'll play.

Lets wait and see how many people in this place shoot themselves.  Lets all watch very carefully and see when someone gets shot.  I'm guessing your bet is what?  A day?  A week maybe?

I'll go out on a limb here and say... never.
Also.. when I say "somebody gets shot".. I mean one of the patrons shoots themselves or someone else as an accident.  If a patron shoots some thug trying to rob the place.. that doesn't count.

Deal?
 
2013-04-05 01:34:35 PM  

xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.


It probably isn't any different than going through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of inanimate objects and constantly expecting gunfights to break out around you over parking spots, so I think you have a pretty good idea what it is like.
 
2013-04-05 01:36:31 PM  
"carrying a SIG Sauer on his right hip. He was happily dining on a fried dish "

There's a slight difference in the amount of detail in the description of the gun and the dish.
 
2013-04-05 01:36:52 PM  

master_dman: Lets wait and see how many people in this place shoot themselves. Lets all watch very carefully and see when someone gets shot. I'm guessing your bet is what? A day? A week maybe?


Actually the timeline will be until the business closes. Whether it happens today or a year from now is entirely irrelevant.
 
2013-04-05 01:36:59 PM  

give me doughnuts: HotWingConspiracy: master_dman: HotWingConspiracy: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

Doesn't mean you won't get shot there.

Yep.  Your right.  I'm sure we'll be reading a story about someone getting shot there by next Wednesday.

//sarcasm.

Pretty much all you got.

I enjoyed the article about the responsible gun owner that offed his baby while trying to holster his gun. So many isolated incidents, good thing they're isolated.

Between 800 and 1000 gun-shot deaths per year are classed as accidental. If they were all to the person who was clumsily or negligently handling the weapon, I would say this is a good thing (Darwin Award candidates), but all too often somebody else catches the bullet.


citation needed.
 
2013-04-05 01:38:30 PM  

WelldeadLink: "carrying a SIG Sauer on his right hip. He was happily dining on a fried dish "

There's a slight difference in the amount of detail in the description of the gun and the dish.


All fried food rates the same.
 
2013-04-05 01:38:31 PM  

GUTSU: lostcat: GUTSU: dudicon: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

So the people who aren't so scared of the world they feel the need to be armed at all times are the pussies?

Wanting to be able to defend yourself is now being equated with being a pussy? You sure are grasping at straws, aren't you?

I think he's saying that because you apparently live in fear of everyone around you every moment of your life, you are a bit of a coward.

That's just my interpretation.

If he thinks people with guns live in constant fear, he's wrong. I use guns all the time and I'm not in constant fear I don't even think about my gun.
Why you people believe gun owners are paranoid schizophrenic's is beyond me, but I'm going to guess it's because you don't actually know any.


I've gone shooting with my friends who own guns.

I enjoy it.

But they don't feel the need to carry their guns around with them any time they leave the house.

That's called a "security blanket." Feeling safe only when you have something in your possession, and not feeling safe when you don't have it. Not that all people who want to carry have this issue, but reading these threads, I certainly have come across people who "feel safer" when they have their gun on them.

It would never occur to me that carrying a gun would make me feel safer. I feel pretty safe without one. I don't feel like I need weapons to go through life. I tend to talk to people and difuse any potentially bad situation. Maybe some people don't have that ability, so they feel they need a gun.

What I do say is that to call me a "pussy" because I don't feel the need to carry a deadly weapon around in public in order to feel safe is just backasswards.
 
2013-04-05 01:39:27 PM  

WelldeadLink: "carrying a SIG Sauer on his right hip. He was happily dining on a fried dish "

There's a slight difference in the amount of detail in the description of the gun and the dish.


They actually fry the plates there.
 
2013-04-05 01:41:14 PM  

theprinceofwands: Yet it's completely legal in dozens to states to be fall down drunk and still armed, yet hasn't been any kind of significant problem in the couple hundred years it's been allowed by law.


It's legal in my state, even though the local gun rights lobbyist cheerfully told the sponsoring legislator that there would be no push back on that from the state gun-rights organization.

The legislator, being canny enough to win an election, asked why.

The gun rights lobbyist said that the day that law came into effect, he would go from cop bar to cop bar with a copy of the law, the voting record, a few of his sheriff deputy buddies, and an enormous paddy wagon.

Faced with the prospect of having to explain to the public why its OK for cops to be specifically exempted so they could be armed and inebriated, or to have to explain to the cop union why so many of their members were in the hoosegow, the bill never got filed.
 
2013-04-05 01:41:51 PM  

lostcat: dudicon: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

So the people who aren't so scared of the world they feel the need to be armed at all times are the pussies?

It's sad to me that there are people who sit in restaurants and worry that it may get robbed.

The thought has never occurred to me once in 42 years.

I've also never been in a situation where deadly force was neccessary to protect my life, or the lives of those around me.


Your right.. It's still relatively safe out there.

Chances are, you can go your whole life without ever needing to protect your life... but I suspect if it ever did come to that.. you will just curl into a ball in the corner and piddle yourself waiting for the cops to show up.
 
2013-04-05 01:42:31 PM  
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2013-04-05 01:42:31 PM  

GUTSU: lostcat: GUTSU: dudicon: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

So the people who aren't so scared of the world they feel the need to be armed at all times are the pussies?

Wanting to be able to defend yourself is now being equated with being a pussy? You sure are grasping at straws, aren't you?

I think he's saying that because you apparently live in fear of everyone around you every moment of your life, you are a bit of a coward.

That's just my interpretation.

If he thinks people with guns live in constant fear, he's wrong. I use guns all the time and I'm not in constant fear I don't even think about my gun.
Why you people believe gun owners are paranoid schizophrenic's is beyond me, but I'm going to guess it's because you don't actually know any.


I'm talking specifically about the mentality of people who feel the need to have a gun on hand while eating a restaurant, not gun owners in general.

/have friends with guns
//go shooting with them sometimes
 
2013-04-05 01:42:54 PM  
Get that wad out of your panties, subby. That restaurant is probably the safest place to be on a Wednesday.
 
2013-04-05 01:43:07 PM  

lostcat: What I do say is that to call me a "pussy" because I don't feel the need to carry a deadly weapon around in public in order to feel safe is just backasswards.


They aren't calling you a pussy because you refuse to carry a gun. They are calling you a pussy because just the thought of somebody else carrying a gun in your vicinity freaks you the fark out and brings out your inner authoritarian.
 
2013-04-05 01:43:11 PM  

umad: xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.

It probably isn't any different than going through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of inanimate objects and constantly expecting gunfights to break out around you over parking spots, so I think you have a pretty good idea what it is like.


Not sure what you're getting at. Guns don't scare me. I'm just trying to grok what a militant CCW's world must look like. I feel pity and amusement, but not fear or paranoia.
 
2013-04-05 01:44:37 PM  
This being a restaurant and all, shouldn't the owner spend more time talking about the food rather than all the guns they allow?
 
2013-04-05 01:48:05 PM  

cookiefleck: This being a restaurant and all, shouldn't the owner spend more time talking about the food rather than all the guns they allow?


Since when has the quality of food had anything to do with restaurant marketing?
 
2013-04-05 01:48:44 PM  

xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.


You ever wear a seat belt, "just in case"?

Must be exhausting to be so pants-pissingly scared of other drivers.
 
2013-04-05 01:48:53 PM  

lostcat: I'm waiting for Machete Mondays.


Samurai Saturday!
 
2013-04-05 01:49:32 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: master_dman: HotWingConspiracy: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

Doesn't mean you won't get shot there.

Yep.  Your right.  I'm sure we'll be reading a story about someone getting shot there by next Wednesday.

//sarcasm.

Pretty much all you got.

I enjoyed the article about the responsible gun owner that offed his baby while trying to holster his gun. So many isolated incidents, good thing they're isolated.


How many bullets fired per incident?  Isn't that the equivalent of accidents per mile with cars?
 
2013-04-05 01:50:21 PM  

scarmig: xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.

You ever wear a seat belt, "just in case"?

Must be exhausting to be so pants-pissingly scared of other drivers.


Exactly.  I carry an epi pen just in case I develop a food allergy.
 
2013-04-05 01:50:55 PM  
If I had a pistol (with a holster and a CCP), I'd damn well openly wear it around my waist for 10% off some awesome Gumbo and the rest of my tab.

That's just smart thinking.

Then, (as I'm sure almost every single patron at this place will do) I'd take the holster off and go about my normal daily routine...sans pistol.
 
2013-04-05 01:50:59 PM  

umad: lostcat: What I do say is that to call me a "pussy" because I don't feel the need to carry a deadly weapon around in public in order to feel safe is just backasswards.

They aren't calling you a pussy because you refuse to carry a gun. They are calling you a pussy because just the thought of somebody else carrying a gun in your vicinity freaks you the fark out and brings out your inner authoritarian.


You've just made an ass out of u and me.
 
2013-04-05 01:52:22 PM  

kombat_unit: FlashHarry: [i49.tinypic.com image 300x487]

Ok flashharry, how is your tiny penis?


well, i don't need to open carry.
 
2013-04-05 01:52:25 PM  

memtastic: scarmig: xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.

You ever wear a seat belt, "just in case"?

Must be exhausting to be so pants-pissingly scared of other drivers.

Exactly.  I carry an epi pen just in case I develop a food allergy.


Benedryl is a good one to keep around in your first aid kit.  Just in case.
 
2013-04-05 01:54:00 PM  

master_dman: lostcat: dudicon: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

So the people who aren't so scared of the world they feel the need to be armed at all times are the pussies?

It's sad to me that there are people who sit in restaurants and worry that it may get robbed.

The thought has never occurred to me once in 42 years.

I've also never been in a situation where deadly force was neccessary to protect my life, or the lives of those around me.

Your right.. It's still relatively safe out there.

Chances are, you can go your whole life without ever needing to protect your life... but I suspect if it ever did come to that.. you will just curl into a ball in the corner and piddle yourself waiting for the cops to show up.


Another bad assumption. I have anger-management isssues, I'm 6' and weigh over 220. I'm the last person who would cower when someone is being an asshole. I'm more likely to be shot my some coward who feels threatened by me when I lose my temper and start getting up in their face.

/sad but true internet tough guy
 
2013-04-05 01:54:04 PM  

master_dman: lostcat: dudicon: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

So the people who aren't so scared of the world they feel the need to be armed at all times are the pussies?

It's sad to me that there are people who sit in restaurants and worry that it may get robbed.

The thought has never occurred to me once in 42 years.

I've also never been in a situation where deadly force was neccessary to protect my life, or the lives of those around me.

Your right.. It's still relatively safe out there.

Chances are, you can go your whole life without ever needing to protect your life... but I suspect if it ever did come to that.. you will just curl into a ball in the corner and piddle yourself waiting for the cops to show up.


Well Ive never wanted to own a gun much less carry one, and I didn't piss myself and go fetal when I had one pointed at me.(though I did follow instructions carefully. It seemed prudent)

But I guess anecdote isn't data.
 
2013-04-05 01:54:16 PM  

lostcat: umad: lostcat: What I do say is that to call me a "pussy" because I don't feel the need to carry a deadly weapon around in public in order to feel safe is just backasswards.

They aren't calling you a pussy because you refuse to carry a gun. They are calling you a pussy because just the thought of somebody else carrying a gun in your vicinity freaks you the fark out and brings out your inner authoritarian.

You've just made an ass out of u and me.


Yet I'm right the fark on. You wouldn't be so "concerned" otherwise.
 
2013-04-05 01:54:46 PM  
So someone with an unmedicated, bizarre form of paranoia that leaves them in such jorts-pissing terror of unfamiliar people is free to exercise his first amendment rights but not his second amendment ones?

Your Constitution does not work that way. The reasons for exercising your rights are not relevant. You can always do these things. That is why they are called rights.
 
2013-04-05 01:54:48 PM  

lostcat: I'm waiting for Machete Mondays.


Thompson Tuesdays
Walther Wednesdays
Reload Thursdays (all shots half off!)
Flamethrower Fridays

I have a feeling that this story is going to have an awesome follow-up.
 
2013-04-05 01:55:56 PM  

lostcat: /sad but true internet tough guy


Yeah, I bet you're a real badass.
 
2013-04-05 01:56:27 PM  

scarmig: xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.

You ever wear a seat belt, "just in case"?

Must be exhausting to be so pants-pissingly scared of other drivers.


No I wear one because a) it's the law and b) I don't want to go flying through my windshield should I end up rear ending someone.

I think if you're going to make a seat belt to gun analogy you'd be better off comparing them to the safety. Is it more responsible to walk around with the safety on or off? Does keeping the safety on while you're not ready to shoot something make you paranoid?
 
2013-04-05 01:57:02 PM  

bingethinker: Toss a couple of firecrackers into that crowd and watch the bullets fly. Give them a group Darwin Award for bettering the future of mankind.


This was the first thing I thought...
 
2013-04-05 01:57:34 PM  
Would dearly love to see some idiot try to rob the place.
 
2013-04-05 02:00:23 PM  

Ryker's Peninsula: lostcat: I'm waiting for Machete Mondays.

Thompson Tuesdays
Walther Wednesdays
Reload Thursdays (all shots half off!)
Flamethrower Fridays

I have a feeling that this story is going to have an awesome follow-up.


Heh. The bar down the street from my dorm had $1 shots on Thursdays.

/remembers the year they put carpets in the dorm elevators.
//gross.
 
2013-04-05 02:00:27 PM  

Allen. The end.: bingethinker: Toss a couple of firecrackers into that crowd and watch the bullets fly. Give them a group Darwin Award for bettering the future of mankind.

This was the first thing I thought...


I would love to see that social experiment. Though, it would be more amusing if you could somehow replace all their bullets with blanks just to see the looks on their faces afterward.
 
2013-04-05 02:01:18 PM  

xalres: scarmig: xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.

You ever wear a seat belt, "just in case"?

Must be exhausting to be so pants-pissingly scared of other drivers.

No I wear one because a) it's the law and b) I don't want to go flying through my windshield should I end up rear ending someone.

I think if you're going to make a seat belt to gun analogy you'd be better off comparing them to the safety. Is it more responsible to walk around with the safety on or off? Does keeping the safety on while you're not ready to shoot something make you paranoid?


My analogy was not about safety.  It was about fear.   You claim we carry out of fear.  Ergo, you must wear a seat belt out of fear.  If you don't wear your seat belt out of fear, then it is *possible* we may carry for reasons other than fear.
 
2013-04-05 02:03:11 PM  

Jeeb: You know where I would never feel the need to carry a gun?

Leesburg


This man speaks truth. Leesburg Virginia - the county seat of the perennial highest per capita income of any county in the United States (it trades back and forth with Arlington/Fairfax VA in the top 3 year to year) .

It ain't exactly Eight Mile, Southeast DC, or Cherry Hill in Baltimore.
 
2013-04-05 02:05:58 PM  
The Stupid Tag?

Yeah well I gotta a problem with that.  The posters at Fark tend to lean to the left.  So be it.  They also tend to lean to the cruel, uncaring (except about cats in trees rescued by retired firefighters), narrow minded and well I could go on but I won't.

Being able to defend yourself should be a human right.  Not just for Americans but for every citizen of every country.  And let's just put this to rest that this argument is about gun safety.  It isn't and it never has been.  If safety of our devices were the predominate criteria for legal ownership cars would go a maximum of fifteen miles an hour.  The argument is about fear.  Those that fear people with guns and those that fear people will take away a constitutionally protected right.

No person should be defenseless in their own home or on the streets of their own city or country.  Whether they are defending themselves against simple thugs or their own government.  Mandating defenseless citizenry is simply an outmoded archaic type of thinking.  Those that continue it in any form are intellectual dinosaurs.
 
2013-04-05 02:06:00 PM  

scarmig: xalres: scarmig: xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.

You ever wear a seat belt, "just in case"?

Must be exhausting to be so pants-pissingly scared of other drivers.

No I wear one because a) it's the law and b) I don't want to go flying through my windshield should I end up rear ending someone.

I think if you're going to make a seat belt to gun analogy you'd be better off comparing them to the safety. Is it more responsible to walk around with the safety on or off? Does keeping the safety on while you're not ready to shoot something make you paranoid?

My analogy was not about safety.  It was about fear.   You claim we carry out of fear.  Ergo, you must wear a seat belt out of fear.  If you don't wear your seat belt out of fear, then it is *possible* we may carry for reasons other than fear.


Such as...

What other reasons are there for people to carry a weapon on their person at all times everywhere they go? I'm genuinely interested because I haven't heard one explanation that didn't boil down to general paranoia about ubiquitous crime.
 
2013-04-05 02:06:09 PM  

lostcat: master_dman: lostcat: dudicon: master_dman: All you scared whiny pussies can just stay away from this place.
I'm guessing this place won't be robbed.  EVER.

So the people who aren't so scared of the world they feel the need to be armed at all times are the pussies?

It's sad to me that there are people who sit in restaurants and worry that it may get robbed.

The thought has never occurred to me once in 42 years.

I've also never been in a situation where deadly force was neccessary to protect my life, or the lives of those around me.

Your right.. It's still relatively safe out there.

Chances are, you can go your whole life without ever needing to protect your life... but I suspect if it ever did come to that.. you will just curl into a ball in the corner and piddle yourself waiting for the cops to show up.

Another bad assumption. I have anger-management isssues, I'm 6' and weigh over 220. I'm the last person who would cower when someone is being an asshole. I'm more likely to be shot my some coward who feels threatened by me when I lose my temper and start getting up in their face.

/sad but true internet tough guy


I'm 6'2" and weigh 240.  So what.
Your both a dick and a pussy at the same time I see.
 
2013-04-05 02:06:22 PM  

xalres: scarmig: xalres: I often wonder what it's like to go through life so pants-pissingly paranoid of the outside world that you feel the need to be armed everywhere at all times just in case!!!! It sounds exhausting.

You ever wear a seat belt, "just in case"?

Must be exhausting to be so pants-pissingly scared of other drivers.

No I wear one because a) it's the law and b) I don't want to go flying through my windshield should I end up rear ending someone.

I think if you're going to make a seat belt to gun analogy you'd be better off comparing them to the safety. Is it more responsible to walk around with the safety on or off? Does keeping the safety on while you're not ready to shoot something make you paranoid?


You're required to wear a seat belt in your state?  We don't even have helmet laws, sales or income tax.
 
2013-04-05 02:08:26 PM  

Ned Stark: Heh. The bar down the street from my dorm had $1 shots on Thursdays.

/remembers the year they put carpets in the dorm elevators.
//gross.


Chancey's, Radford Univ. circa 1986:  NICKEL BEERS

Yeah, that's 20 cups of 12 oz golden goodness on a lunch platter for a dollar.

/ Hokie
// DD back to Tech sucked
 
2013-04-05 02:09:00 PM  
Men who open carry are like guys who obsessively show people they know and don't know that they have a condom in their wallet.
 
2013-04-05 02:09:12 PM  
My problem is this: the nature of the discussion of open carry is flawed. Of course, when 'Joe Blow' with a gun starts firing to defend himself against a threat, he won't be firing accurately. Show me all the targets at the range you want, but a firing range is NOT a busy highway. The second point is that while 'Joe' has a gun, I do not. This changes the nature of the initial relationship between he and I, whether we are in the same restaurant or church, or just on the same sidewalk. His capacity to inflict harm is MUCH greater than mine, and his possession and presentation of a weapon changes the dynamic of any relationship we could have. The carrying of a weapon also changes the dynamic of his own opinion, rendering his views to be allowed to be much more severe, less able to empathize with those who choose not to carry a deadly weapon with them, and give him a sense of power that may or may not be false. Cover this with the idea of "rights" or "defense", and you get a bunch of guys arguing on the internet about...oh, wait.
 
2013-04-05 02:10:06 PM  

xalres: I would love to see that social experiment. Though, it would be more amusing if you could somehow replace all their bullets with blanks just to see the looks on their faces afterward.


Here's your challenge for the day.  Find me an example of a ccw carrier using his weapon in an attempt to stop a crime and instead shooting an innocent bystander.

I think what you'll find is that when bystanders get hit, the gunfire comes from the bad guy or the cops.
 
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