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2013-04-05 11:46:19 AM
www.theglobaldispatch.com

Shearen appeared antsy and was shaking while keeping his head down.

I'm guessing he needed his kiddy diddler fix?
 
2013-04-05 11:54:17 AM
I realize that this is a good thing, its great that we caught the guy. But why don't we go after the distribution networks and sources more often?

I mean hell, Anonymous does a better job of shutting these pervs down than the FBI does
 
2013-04-05 11:54:33 AM
...ie, like the curator of my local historical society.

/people who are into history are bent
//I know, I'm both
///no pedo
 
2013-04-05 11:55:02 AM
pinchmysalt.tv
 
2013-04-05 11:55:40 AM
oh, I figured it'd be a priest pic.
 
2013-04-05 11:56:00 AM
Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?
 
2013-04-05 11:56:26 AM
He doesn't look like a priest to me.
 
2013-04-05 11:56:29 AM
First thing I thought of

www.opposingviews.comupload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-05 11:57:01 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: I realize that this is a good thing, its great that we caught the guy. But why don't we go after the distribution networks and sources more often?

I mean hell, Anonymous does a better job of shutting these pervs down than the FBI does


This is not the War on Drugs. Being a user is the only crime. For all we know, producing and distributing this stuff falls under some ethically unencumbered reading of the First Amendment.
 
2013-04-05 11:57:19 AM
Besides the videos and images, cops found children's underwear in Shearen's home, which he said he wears.

D:
 
2013-04-05 11:57:33 AM
The style's a bit dated, but he's got better hair than I'd expected.
 
2013-04-05 11:57:36 AM
Wow. He's got a thin face for a Farker.
 
2013-04-05 11:57:47 AM
I wonder if the people looking at the kiddie porn usually participate in such activities.  Maybe it prevents them from doing so.  Anyone seen any research on such things?  I'm scared to Google it.
 
2013-04-05 11:58:30 AM
Someone in the news room should really think about what will show up before tagging articles.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-05 11:59:02 AM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


I am.  I think the death penalty should be done away with.  The crime doesn't matter.  Lock him up, throw away the key (once found guilty).  Can't kill him.

If you can't trust the govt to manage your healthcare then you can't trust them to decide when people should be put to death.  Simple as that.
 
2013-04-05 12:00:24 PM
Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


Eh, unless he produced it or profitted prom distributing it, I don't see a need for death, or even a long prison term. If there is any evidence that he's actually molested anybody, then I advocate chemical castration.
 
2013-04-05 12:00:25 PM
Wouldn't it hurt like hell to wear kids undies? Isn't he a full-grown dude? Is that even possible?
 
2013-04-05 12:00:25 PM
clarification: the suspect LOOKS like our curator.

/I have nothing incriminating on our curator. Except that he's a 70yo lifelong bachelor whose toupée couldn't be less convincing if it had a chinstrap.
 
2013-04-05 12:00:26 PM
LOL.

The lone comment in TFA is spam stating how to make a whole lot of money from home on your computer.  That's what the perp was doing to.
 
2013-04-05 12:01:17 PM
*too
 
2013-04-05 12:01:33 PM

Slam Dunkz: If you can't trust the govt to manage your healthcare then you can't trust them to decide when people should be put to death


^
 
2013-04-05 12:01:35 PM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


I say just general pop and let darwin sort it all out
 
2013-04-05 12:01:51 PM
That doesn't look like Pete Townshend.
 
2013-04-05 12:02:35 PM
There was a scene in a Mel Gibson movie (I believe) where the interrogator started pounding Mel's toes with a ball peen hammer to get some info. We should start there. I don't want any info. Just start there.
 
2013-04-05 12:03:17 PM

Slam Dunkz: Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?

I am.  I think the death penalty should be done away with.  The crime doesn't matter.  Lock him up, throw away the key (once found guilty).  Can't kill him.

If you can't trust the govt to manage your healthcare then you can't trust them to decide when people should be put to death.  Simple as that.


I'm fine with government heathcare. Could you imagine seniors trying to get private health insurance? Medicare and Medicaid are good programs that save lives every day.

However, I also have no problem putting some chlorine in the 'ol gene pool. Of course, equating a kiddy porn creep to pond scum is an insult to algae.
 
2013-04-05 12:03:22 PM

Head_Shot: Wouldn't it hurt like hell to wear kids undies? Isn't he a full-grown dude? Is that even possible?


He probably did his shopping in the "Husky Kids" department.

/ blech
 
2013-04-05 12:03:59 PM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


me. Come do something about me, ITG.

blatz514: Shearen appeared antsy and was shaking while keeping his head down.

I'm guessing he needed his kiddy diddler fix?


Maybe he's acutely aware of how short a stay in jail he's in for.  Like not lasting long, short.
 
2013-04-05 12:04:10 PM
Between 500,000 and one million images? Cant they just right click and look at the properties tab for the folder located at my documents\imasicklittlefarker?
 
2013-04-05 12:04:23 PM
www.theglobaldispatch.com
TOTSECKS?
 
2013-04-05 12:05:34 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: I realize that this is a good thing, its great that we caught the guy. But why don't we go after the distribution networks and sources more often?

I mean hell, Anonymous does a better job of shutting these pervs down than the FBI does


I'm sorry citizen, does the shutting down of child porn bring money into the coffers?  No, it does not, silly citizen.
 
2013-04-05 12:05:35 PM
www.opposingviews.com
"Are you a wizard?"
 
2013-04-05 12:06:49 PM
If he's notorious, why haven't I heard of him?
 
2013-04-05 12:07:00 PM

studs up: There was a scene in a Mel Gibson movie (I believe) where the interrogator started pounding Mel's toes with a ball peen hammer to get some info.


The Passion of the Christ?
 
2013-04-05 12:07:04 PM

uttertosh: Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?

me. Come do something about me, ITG.

blatz514: Shearen appeared antsy and was shaking while keeping his head down.

I'm guessing he needed his kiddy diddler fix?

Maybe he's acutely aware of how short a stay in jail he's in for.  Like not lasting long, short.


ITG? I was polling the mood, not telling someone to "come at me bro"...like you are.
 
2013-04-05 12:08:16 PM

Private_Citizen: come at me bro


Oh, it is SO on....
 
2013-04-05 12:08:55 PM
Assuming parents adequately supervise their children, how do these images get produced in the first place?
/Just kidding, parents don't control their kids anymore.
//Michael Jackson
 
2013-04-05 12:08:57 PM

Derigiberble: Someone in the news room should really think about what will show up before tagging articles.


[i.imgur.com image 664x186]


good find. missed that when i read it.
 
2013-04-05 12:09:27 PM
"Look, Ma, I'min the paper!"

/what do families think of these guys?
 
2013-04-05 12:09:37 PM
Who needs 1 million images of ANY type of porn?

Why heck, I been usin' the same SI Swimsuit issue since the 70s.

/mmm..Cheryl Tiegs has been a naughty girl, hasn't she? :)
 
2013-04-05 12:09:47 PM

uttertosh: Private_Citizen: come at me bro

Oh, it is SO on....


Ok, of all possible responses, that's pretty funny. You're alright.
 
2013-04-05 12:10:13 PM

TomD9938: Head_Shot: Wouldn't it hurt like hell to wear kids undies? Isn't he a full-grown dude? Is that even possible?

He probably did his shopping in the "Husky Kids" department.

/ blech


Which is to say, average American kid-sized.
 
2013-04-05 12:10:28 PM

autopsybeverage: Between 500,000 and one million images? Cant they just right click and look at the properties tab for the folder located at my documents\imasicklittlefarker?


They're probably trying to account for the possible content on his DVD collection. It could be all child porn, or half child porn & half regular porn. Or it could be 1/3 child porn, 1/3 regular porn, and 1/3 weird anime rape games. Or it could be all child porn and one copy of Ernest Goes to Camp. You just never know.
 
2013-04-05 12:11:18 PM
FTA <i>Legal officials became aware of Shearen last month while monitoring child porn websites<i/>
 
2013-04-05 12:11:24 PM

This About That: If he's notorious, why haven't I heard of him?


Same here. "Notorious Child Porn Downloader" doesn't sound like any rapper I've ever heard of.
 
2013-04-05 12:11:52 PM
He's downloaded 500,000 to 1 million images and police just noticed him 1 month ago? Real nice police work there boys.

static.tvfanatic.com
 
2013-04-05 12:11:57 PM

Torchsong: Why heck, I been usin' the same SI Swimsuit issue since the 70s.


that's just gross, man. Do the pages even separate any more?
 
2013-04-05 12:12:08 PM
Good god, I would hate to be this guys lawyer.
 
2013-04-05 12:12:51 PM
I expected him to have more head wounds, Subby.
 
2013-04-05 12:12:58 PM
500,000- 1 million images and videos?!??

Even if he spends 2 seconds looking at each picture that is 1 to 2 million seconds.

86,400 in a day. Take away sleep, eat, poop, work etc let's say he spent 2 hr a day looking at nothing but child porn. that's 7200 seconds.

That's almost 300-400 days of non stop everyday consequetive child porn viewing and spending only 2 seconds each and that's only images!!! If he spends any more time it goes up exponentially.

you add videos and the guy would've need to spend almost every waking moment for the rest of his life watching child porn images or videos!!!

YIKES!
 
2013-04-05 12:13:17 PM
www.theglobaldispatch.com
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

Hey kid.....ever see a guy fist a frog before?

/In order for me to go to hell, I would have to leave it first.
 
2013-04-05 12:13:19 PM

Derigiberble: Someone in the news room should really think about what will show up before tagging articles.


[i.imgur.com image 664x186]


People don't always think these things through... In Phx, I was at a summer film festival, and one of the sponsors was a local alternative newspaper called 'Get Out'... While waiting for the show to start, they are showing slides like usual, and all of the sudden one pops up on screen that says nothing else but GET OUT. No "presented by", "proud partner" not even "magazine or newspaper" after the name, just Get Out in 10 foot high letter on the screen for like 20 seconds.
 
2013-04-05 12:13:31 PM
He doesn't look Australian to me Subby.
 
2013-04-05 12:13:43 PM
Is that a current mugshot? It has this 70's film/Kodachrome quality to it. And the hair/beard style.....good gawdam!

He just oozes goofy.
 
2013-04-05 12:13:44 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: I realize that this is a good thing, its great that we caught the guy. But why don't we go after the distribution networks and sources more often?

I mean hell, Anonymous does a better job of shutting these pervs down than the FBI does


The article said the guy was a major distributor.
 
2013-04-05 12:14:18 PM

Private_Citizen: uttertosh: Private_Citizen: come at me bro

Oh, it is SO on....

Ok, of all possible responses, that's pretty funny. You're alright.


Hey, I got what you were doing and rolled with it. :-))
 
2013-04-05 12:14:31 PM

Slam Dunkz: Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?

I am.  I think the death penalty should be done away with.  The crime doesn't matter.  Lock him up, throw away the key (once found guilty).  Can't kill him.

If you can't trust the govt to manage your healthcare then you can't trust them to decide when people should be put to death.  Simple as that.


False analogy aside, what if he confesses? There is no fixing pedo. What if he is a happy little pedo that would continue this behavior forever? I know there has been a long history of judicial abuse and false imprisonments and deaths, but, does that mean that the death penalty is off the table for everyone? I'd have to think about that.
 
2013-04-05 12:14:47 PM
FTA: "Legal officials became aware of Shearen last month while monitoring child porn websites..."


Nice to know that our "legal officials" monitor child porn websites - rather than shutting them down.

But if they shut them all down, how would they catch guys like this? Maybe they'd have to create their own child pron websites?

You know - for "sting operations"?

Maybe they already have?
 
2013-04-05 12:15:34 PM
This doesn't seem like the type of problem someone with a huge penis would ever develop.
 
2013-04-05 12:15:35 PM

Amos Quito: FTA: "Legal officials became aware of Shearen last month while monitoring child porn websites..."


Nice to know that our "legal officials" monitor child porn websites - rather than shutting them down.

But if they shut them all down, how would they catch guys like this? Maybe they'd have to create their own child pron websites?

You know - for "sting operations"?

Maybe they already have?


If you're hunting a snake, you don't kill off the mice.
 
2013-04-05 12:18:26 PM

sleeper2995: FTA <i>Legal officials became aware of Shearen last month while monitoring child porn websites<i/>


They could throw him in prison... or give him a job.

/Sounds like he's an expert
 
2013-04-05 12:20:12 PM
I wouldn't have to wear children's underwear if they'd just make the Spiderman design in adult sizes...
 
2013-04-05 12:20:43 PM
Give that guy a shave and he doesn't look very far off from what he was looking at.  He looks like a scared child-man.  He probably had more penis in his mouth by age 10 than most porn stars have had their entire careers.
 
2013-04-05 12:21:14 PM

Amos Quito: sleeper2995: FTA <i>Legal officials became aware of Shearen last month while monitoring child porn websites<i/>

They could throw him in prison... or give him a job.

/Sounds like he's an expert


This is a plan. Do a plea bargain. It has to involve cutting off his junk.
 
2013-04-05 12:22:59 PM
Well damn, I guess the price of child porn is about sky rocket.  Thanks Obama!
 
2013-04-05 12:24:40 PM

studs up: I know there has been a long history of judicial abuse and false imprisonments and deaths, but, does that mean that the death penalty is off the table for everyone?


No, the reason for not wishing to take another person's life is down to morals, I'm afraid. You either can justify ending another person's life for a crime, or you can't.

HINT: Most moral people can't. (regardless of whether the morals stem from biblical influence, or atheistic humanism, it's been quite the easy moral choice forever - Thou shalt not kill.

Is murder not the taking of another human's life with wilful intent and prejudice, with motive? Then the death penalty is murder. Deal.
 
2013-04-05 12:25:09 PM
Nope. I thought he would have a huge neck beard, triple chins, coke bottle glasses you only assumed were movie jokes and acne like you've never seen.
 
2013-04-05 12:25:26 PM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


You know, they really should execute people like this.  You can never rehabilitate them, it's a sickness.  Why waste all the money and psychiatric resources on hopeless cases?

They're broken and you can't fix them.  EVER.
 
2013-04-05 12:26:01 PM

SuperNinjaToad: 500,000- 1 million images and videos?!??

Even if he spends 2 seconds looking at each picture that is 1 to 2 million seconds.

86,400 in a day. Take away sleep, eat, poop, work etc let's say he spent 2 hr a day looking at nothing but child porn. that's 7200 seconds.

That's almost 300-400 days of non stop everyday consequetive child porn viewing and spending only 2 seconds each and that's only images!!! If he spends any more time it goes up exponentially.

you add videos and the guy would've need to spend almost every waking moment for the rest of his life watching child porn images or videos!!!

YIKES!


Or he's just one of those people who downloaded anything and everything without looking at it. I downloaded thousands of songs in a matter of a few weeks ten years ago when P2P's were the super awesome new thing. I bet if I sat down and listened to that entire collection I'd still find songs that were a loop of the same thirty seconds, poor quality, or not the song listed as the title at all. It took months just to organize them in a way where I could find stuff.
 
2013-04-05 12:26:03 PM

Slam Dunkz: Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?

I am.  I think the death penalty should be done away with.  The crime doesn't matter.  Lock him up, throw away the key (once found guilty).  Can't kill him.

If you can't trust the govt to manage your healthcare then you can't trust them to decide when people should be put to death.  Simple as that.


Agreed. Don't trust em with either.
 
2013-04-05 12:29:16 PM
Actually, I pictured him looking more like this:

www.clearpathtofitness.com

/I forgive you, Gordon Jump
//You'll always be Mr. Carlson to me
 
2013-04-05 12:29:53 PM

studs up: There was a scene in a Mel Gibson movie (I believe) where the interrogator started pounding Mel's toes with a ball peen hammer to get some info. We should start there. I don't want any info. Just start there.


I'm not sure it'll do anything to stop future child pornographers, but pounding Mel Gibson's toes with a ball peen hammer is definitely the place to start.
 
2013-04-05 12:31:10 PM

uttertosh: Is murder not the taking of another human's life with wilful intent and prejudice, with motive? Then the death penalty is murder. Deal.


Thankfully, you're not the one who decides that. I lean left in most things, but I'm a supporter of the death penalty. I think it's more humane than putting someone in a tiny box until they die.
 
2013-04-05 12:32:21 PM
Second most disturbing thing in the article -

Shearen has a public defender, but that could change very soon. The judge in this case is considering removing the free attorney because Shearen gets $1,500 a month from his Navy pension and has a car which he could sell to pay for a private attorney.

An 18k pension and a used car qualify for a public defender.  I like gettin' tough on criminals as much as the next guy, but show trials are where I draw the line.
 
2013-04-05 12:32:24 PM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


Yes. Try again if it turns out he was molesting kids.
 
2013-04-05 12:32:27 PM
Shearen has a public defender, but that could change very soon. The judge in this case is considering removing the free attorney because Shearen gets $1,500 a month from his Navy pension and has a car which he could sell to pay for a private attorney.

that would be a real dick move on the part of the judge. unless the car is a new lambo there won't be enough from the sale to do squat against the cost of a private attorney. just because the judge has decided he doesn't like this guy it's no reason to fark with him.
 
2013-04-05 12:32:54 PM

Cold_Sassy: You know, they really should execute people like this. You can never rehabilitate them, it's a sickness. Why waste all the money and psychiatric resources on hopeless cases?


Exactly! This is why the judge gave my brother the death penalty; he had a sickness that cost the taxpayers lots and lots of money, and the public outcry was so great to end my brothers life, because of the waste of resources and burden to society a terminal cancer patient really is, that the judge, who was up for his quarterly review, decided to skew in favour of the mob. Fair's fair, after all.
 
2013-04-05 12:33:56 PM

Curious: Shearen has a public defender, but that could change very soon. The judge in this case is considering removing the free attorney because Shearen gets $1,500 a month from his Navy pension and has a car which he could sell to pay for a private attorney.

that would be a real dick move on the part of the judge. unless the car is a new lambo there won't be enough from the sale to do squat against the cost of a private attorney. just because the judge has decided he doesn't like this guy it's no reason to fark with him.


$1,500/mo. and no living expenses.  Let him hire a f*cking lawyer.
 
2013-04-05 12:34:03 PM

Head_Shot: Wouldn't it hurt like hell to wear kids undies? Isn't he a full-grown dude? Is that even possible?


Do you really think when he was asked about them, that he was gonna say they were souvenirs from the neighborhood kids he diddled?

Um.. I wear those and stuff
 
2013-04-05 12:36:26 PM

uttertosh: Exactly! This is why the judge gave my brother the death penalty; he had a sickness that cost the taxpayers lots and lots of money, and the public outcry was so great to end my brothers life, because of the waste of resources and burden to society a terminal cancer patient really is, that the judge, who was up for his quarterly review, decided to skew in favour of the mob. Fair's fair, after all.


3/10. Pretty good.
 
2013-04-05 12:36:43 PM

The Muthaship: $1,500/mo. and no living expenses.


How do you figure "no living expenses"?
 
2013-04-05 12:36:44 PM

Treygreen13: I lean left in most things, but I'm a supporter of the death penalty


well, then you are a terrible, terrible person. Like Lex, and he stole 40, (that's forty), cakes!
 
2013-04-05 12:39:06 PM

Paul Baumer: The Muthaship: $1,500/mo. and no living expenses.

How do you figure "no living expenses"?


I'm hoping like hell he is being held on bond.
 
2013-04-05 12:39:47 PM

cgraves67: Wow. He's got a thin face for a Farker.


He looks like I imagined Gorgor
 
2013-04-05 12:40:25 PM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


i am. if it's found that he was touching kids or making the material himself, i might feel different.

you don't get charged with murder for possessing a snuff film.
 
2013-04-05 12:40:40 PM

uttertosh: Treygreen13: I lean left in most things, but I'm a supporter of the death penalty

well, then you are a terrible, terrible person. Like Lex, and he stole 40, (that's forty), cakes!


That's four tens! And that's terrible!

If we're really going to talk about morality, though, can we morally make the judgement to imprison someone forever? It's debatable which is worse - being put to sleep or living the rest of your life in jail with people who are known to rape and kill child molesters.
 
2013-04-05 12:40:40 PM

Better than that, he's being held without bond.



Link
 
2013-04-05 12:41:25 PM
He looks like rasputin. Rasputin was a priest wasn't he?
 
2013-04-05 12:41:54 PM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball

threadjack rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


Great show, awesome job!
 
2013-04-05 12:42:04 PM

Treygreen13: 3/10. Pretty good.


yeah, well I'm tired and I need moar guarana tablets. payday soon. you'll get longer, better grammered, way snarky/sarky-ier, and 8-10 worthy material when I'm back on them.
 
2013-04-05 12:43:49 PM
I was hoping for a picture of him

www.onemoregadget.com

...so no. It's not the way I thought he should look.

//bring back crucifixion for certain crimes. Child Porn tops the list.
 
2013-04-05 12:44:16 PM

Igor Jakovsky: He looks like rasputin. Rasputin was a priest wasn't he?


Ra ra Lover of the Russian queen
 
2013-04-05 12:46:15 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Give that guy a shave and he doesn't look very far off from what he was looking at.  He looks like a scared child-man.  He probably had more penis in his mouth by age 10 than most porn stars have had their entire careers.


His pathology is a thousand times more savage and terrifying
 
2013-04-05 12:47:51 PM
www.planetmadison.com
 
2013-04-05 12:48:02 PM

Treygreen13: autopsybeverage: Between 500,000 and one million images? Cant they just right click and look at the properties tab for the folder located at my documents\imasicklittlefarker?

They're probably trying to account for the possible content on his DVD collection. It could be all child porn, or half child porn & half regular porn. Or it could be 1/3 child porn, 1/3 regular porn, and 1/3 weird anime rape games. Or it could be all child porn and one copy of Ernest Goes to Camp. You just never know.


digitaljournal.com
 
2013-04-05 12:49:31 PM

uttertosh: Cold_Sassy: You know, they really should execute people like this. You can never rehabilitate them, it's a sickness. Why waste all the money and psychiatric resources on hopeless cases?

Exactly! This is why the judge gave my brother the death penalty; he had a sickness that cost the taxpayers lots and lots of money, and the public outcry was so great to end my brothers life, because of the waste of resources and burden to society a terminal cancer patient really is, that the judge, who was up for his quarterly review, decided to skew in favour of the mob. Fair's fair, after all.


Sure, why not?
 
2013-04-05 12:50:31 PM

Fano: Ra ra Lover of the Russian queen


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkySNDX4dU
 
2013-04-05 12:50:50 PM

Treygreen13: It's debatable which is worse - being put to sleep or living the rest of your life in jail with people who are known to rape and kill child molesters.


I think you yanks call it "Justin" or "Eustice" or some combination of the two.

But, seriously, the human beings who apply the ramifications of breaking laws should not be able to commit murder. Simple as that.

Murderers and rapists are facts of the reality of being put in prison. They also like to rape and kill pot dealers. Should the judicial system murder execute pot dealers, instead of jailtime, to protect them from the murderers and rapists, too?
 
2013-04-05 12:51:39 PM

The Muthaship: MyKingdomForYourHorse: I realize that this is a good thing, its great that we caught the guy. But why don't we go after the distribution networks and sources more often?

I mean hell, Anonymous does a better job of shutting these pervs down than the FBI does

The article said the guy was a major distributor.


Thanks, I didn't RTFA, I just wanted to know what subby thought a child porn downloader looked like. Now, I'm off to get a shave, haircut and Lasik.
 
2013-04-05 12:53:14 PM

rkiller1: Assuming parents adequately supervise their children, how do these images get produced in the first place?
/Just kidding, parents don't control their kids anymore.
//Michael Jackson


Apparently you don't watch much Law and Order: SVU.
 
2013-04-05 12:53:53 PM
"Smile for the camera"
www.zuguide.com
 
2013-04-05 12:53:57 PM

Cold_Sassy: Sure, why not?


Quite so! I mean, I deserve the death penalty for the cost of my asthma medication alone (no, really, the price of seretide is farking criminal!)
 
2013-04-05 12:54:34 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Give that guy a shave and he doesn't look very far off from what he was looking at.  He looks like a scared child-man.  He probably had more penis in his mouth by age 10 than most porn stars have had their entire careers.


You write Twilight fanfic, don't you? :-)
 
2013-04-05 12:55:25 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
Hi-di-ho, neighbor.
 
2013-04-05 12:56:35 PM
What I don't get is why are kids so some damn sexy?
So sexy that you would want to collect millions of pictures of them and wear kiddy underwear?!

I've worn kiddy underwear myself...but when I was a kid.
 
2013-04-05 12:57:18 PM
www.opposingviews.com themothchase.files.wordpress.com
I thought this guy looked familiar. The accused is on the left, and on the right is U.S. Attorney Lincoln Potter from season 4 Sons of Anarchy.

/Yes, i do have a lot of free time on my hands.
 
2013-04-05 12:57:36 PM

The Muthaship: Paul Baumer: The Muthaship: $1,500/mo. and no living expenses.

How do you figure "no living expenses"?

I'm hoping like hell he is being held on bond.


I am pretty sure his landlord doesn't accept "I'm in jail" in lieu of rent, among other things.
 
2013-04-05 12:59:23 PM
"He is the No. 1 person that can distribute child pornography throughout the world," said Duncan. "And he's been doing it."

He CAN?  Why the fark would somebody give him permission to do this?
 
2013-04-05 01:01:45 PM

Paul Baumer: I am pretty sure his landlord doesn't accept "I'm in jail" in lieu of rent, among other things.


You think he's going to pay his rent from jail?  Ok, sorry I wasted our time.
 
2013-04-05 01:02:04 PM

uttertosh: They also like to rape and kill pot dealers.


They do? Pot dealers specifically? I've never been in prison, but I've never heard that.

Or are you implying that since murder and rape happens in prison, everyone sent to prison deserved to be murdered and raped?

(Hey, this is sort of fun, assigning people hilariously indefensible positions! I should do this more often!)
 
2013-04-05 01:04:24 PM
Yep, he looks like a Trekkie...
 
2013-04-05 01:05:08 PM
Actually I didn't expect him to look disturbingly similar to Jim Henson.
 
2013-04-05 01:06:19 PM

uttertosh: studs up: I know there has been a long history of judicial abuse and false imprisonments and deaths, but, does that mean that the death penalty is off the table for everyone?

No, the reason for not wishing to take another person's life is down to morals, I'm afraid. You either can justify ending another person's life for a crime, or you can't.

HINT: Most moral people can't. (regardless of whether the morals stem from biblical influence, or atheistic humanism, it's been quite the easy moral choice forever - Thou shalt not kill.

Is murder not the taking of another human's life with wilful intent and prejudice, with motive? Then the death penalty is murder. Deal.


Hint: The bible kills the shiat out of tons of people for less. Goethe may have said something about capital punishment but I don't know what it is, do you? Were you thinking George Bernard Shaw?
FYI: murder - The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. There's a tricky word in there, see if you can find it. If you don't accept this definition, you should be screaming that GWB and BO were/are the heads of a murder spree company in Iraq and Afghanistan. You should be calling for their lifetime imprisonment as well as the members of the armed services that have killed in these wars.
Sack up and go after them IF you really can't tell the difference. If you can, then your argument is fallacious and you should feel bad for foisting it upon us.
Deal.
 
2013-04-05 01:06:50 PM
someone here at work suggested a locked and sealed room. lined walls, one small observation window and a gun and a single bullet.

lock him in, give him the choice. use the bullet on himself or starve. someone else suggested putting two of them in there and give the gun to one and the bullet to the other. first one to fight and get both gets to kill themselves first. loser gets to starve with a dead body in the room.

i think i figured out that some of my coworkers aren't very nice.
 
2013-04-05 01:11:02 PM
Actually, no. That mugshot does not match up with my pre-conceived image of what a kiddier porner would look like.
This guy looks too "wild." I'd picture someone a little more conventional, but with a touch of evil in his eyes.
 
2013-04-05 01:12:15 PM
i4.ytimg.com
In-famous?!
 
2013-04-05 01:14:10 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [www.opposingviews.com image 301x251] [themothchase.files.wordpress.com image 450x251]
I thought this guy looked familiar. The accused is on the left, and on the right is U.S. Attorney Lincoln Potter from season 4 Sons of Anarchy.

/Yes, i do have a lot of free time on my hands.


YES!

He's also the Reverend Smith on Deadwood and the Bona-Fide Suiter in "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?"

Though the accused is not at all what I envision when I imagine the Notorious CPD. I expected someone more doughy, with short hair & no beard. Dribbly moustache optional.
 
2013-04-05 01:16:19 PM

The Muthaship: Paul Baumer: I am pretty sure his landlord doesn't accept "I'm in jail" in lieu of rent, among other things.

You think he's going to pay his rent from jail?  Ok, sorry I wasted our time.


So, if you were in jail on bond awaiting trial you'd just let someone evict you, despite the fact you might bond out, the trial might not be for years, you might be you know, innocent or cleared of charges, or any number of things, like your family lives there too or something.  But nope, the thing to do is show that goddam landlord who's boss, not pay rent, and let all your possessions be thrown on the side of the road.  

Not everyone is an 18 year old in a college dorm.
 
2013-04-05 01:28:15 PM

Paul Baumer: Not everyone is an 18 year old in a college dorm.


They have his computer stuff.  And his Underoos collection.  He's being held without bond, meaning he ain't about to make bond as it's not being set to begin with.  His PD has probably already told him his situation. He's not paying his rent.  He's not indigent, he doesn't deserve a free lawyer.
 
2013-04-05 01:30:24 PM

Cold_Sassy: Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?

You know, they really should execute people like this.  You can never rehabilitate them, it's a sickness.  Why waste all the money and psychiatric resources on hopeless cases?

They're broken and you can't fix them.  EVER.


You can't change what they think but you can certainly change what they do.
 
2013-04-05 01:30:31 PM

Head_Shot: Wouldn't it hurt like hell to wear kids undies? Isn't he a full-grown dude? Is that even possible?


Hefty/Plus sizes for children didn't exist during your childhood? You sound old.
 
2013-04-05 01:34:18 PM

Smell the Glove: Actually I didn't expect him to look disturbingly similar to Jim Henson.


Well thats two of us who caught it.
 
2013-04-05 01:34:47 PM

Earl of Chives: He's downloaded 500,000 to 1 million images and police just noticed him 1 month ago? Real nice police work there boys.


IF it was that easy to track people on the internet doing things they don't want to be caught doing, Anonymous would have doxed all of the pedos by now.
 
2013-04-05 01:35:26 PM

Treygreen13: autopsybeverage: Between 500,000 and one million images? Cant they just right click and look at the properties tab for the folder located at my documents\imasicklittlefarker?

They're probably trying to account for the possible content on his DVD collection. It could be all child porn, or half child porn & half regular porn. Or it could be 1/3 child porn, 1/3 regular porn, and 1/3 weird anime rape games. Or it could be all child porn and one copy of Ernest Goes to Camp. You just never know.


The poor investigators that have to determine that. So sad.
 
2013-04-05 01:37:33 PM

orclover: [www.theglobaldispatch.com image 255x300]
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Hey kid.....ever see a guy fist a frog before?

/In order for me to go to hell, I would have to leave it first.


I'm sorry to hear you're stuck in California and can't afford to move.
 
2013-04-05 01:37:49 PM

Amos Quito: FTA: "Legal officials became aware of Shearen last month while monitoring child porn websites..."


Nice to know that our "legal officials" monitor child porn websites - rather than shutting them down.

But if they shut them all down, how would they catch guys like this? Maybe they'd have to create their own child pron websites?

You know - for "sting operations"?

Maybe they already have?


They are called "honey pots"
 
2013-04-05 01:47:24 PM

Madame Ovary: Head_Shot: Wouldn't it hurt like hell to wear kids undies? Isn't he a full-grown dude? Is that even possible?

Hefty/Plus sizes for children didn't exist during your childhood? You sound old.


I was a child of the 60s-70s. I think I was 15 when Underoos came out. So yeah, old. And smoking hot.
 
2013-04-05 01:49:52 PM

The Muthaship: Paul Baumer: Not everyone is an 18 year old in a college dorm.

They have his computer stuff.  And his Underoos collection.  He's being held without bond, meaning he ain't about to make bond as it's not being set to begin with.  His PD has probably already told him his situation. He's not paying his rent.  He's not indigent, he doesn't deserve a free lawyer.


He has been accused, not found guilty.  We currently don't have a "you have to lose of their home and possesions" for folks who have been accused, but not found guilty of anything yet. $1500/mo is indigent by any meaningful standard and to deny someone at that income level a public defender makes a mockery of the idea that we have one.  I know a lot of folks would like to forego due process and move right to the much more fun punishment part, but the idea of justice, in this country anyway, revolves around all people having the right to counsel, a right that takes on real meaning when looking at a felony  conviction and multi-year sentence, and the state has unlimited resources to use against you.  The Lord loves a hanging, but this guy, like everyone else, deserves a trial with a decent defense first.
 
2013-04-05 01:51:26 PM

nburghmatt: Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?

i am. if it's found that he was touching kids or making the material himself, i might feel different.

you don't get charged with murder for possessing a snuff film.


Came here to say something along the same lines but you said it much better than I could have.

I absolutely abhor what he did, but I'm not yet aware of evidence that he ever, even once, touched a kid.  If that evidence arises, then I'd probably reconsider.
 
2013-04-05 01:54:54 PM

This About That: If he's notorious, why haven't I heard of him?


This.  The vocabulary of the US has become so polluted that we might as well adopt Newspeak.  He's not notorious.  He's double-plus ungood.
 
2013-04-05 01:56:03 PM

Cold_Sassy: You know, they really should execute people like this.  You can never rehabilitate them, it's a sickness.  Why waste all the money and psychiatric resources on hopeless cases?

They're broken and you can't fix them.  EVER.


I'm inclined to give him an option: (1) go to jail for life, or (2) being neutered, and given a suspended life sentence to be enforced if he ever touches a computer.
 
2013-04-05 02:01:57 PM

Paul Baumer: I know a lot of folks would like to forego due process


Smooth segue.  I am not such a person.  But, I assure you this: The guy is never paying another dollar of rent on his current apartment.  His belongings he will either sell or give to family (or away).  His car will be sold.  Even if he wants to pay rent (again, he won't), the landlord will evict him as soon as possible.  The boilerplate language on his lease has at least 3 clauses that can be used to remove him.  He is down to zero expenses, and he will be getting that $1500/mo. the rest of his life.  He can afford and should want his own counsel.

Thanks for the irrelevant justice lecture, on the end.  I can always use more of that.
 
2013-04-05 02:10:49 PM

Treygreen13: uttertosh: They also like to rape and kill pot dealers.

They do? Pot dealers specifically? I've never been in prison, but I've never heard that.

Or are you implying that since murder and rape happens in prison, everyone sent to prison deserved to be murdered and raped?

(Hey, this is sort of fun, assigning people hilariously indefensible positions! I should do this more often!)


it's what fark is for, no? amadoinitrong?
 
2013-04-05 02:12:34 PM
Dude looks like he timewarped out of the 70's or possibly early 80's. For some reason I find that extra creepy.

\time traveling pedobear?
 
2013-04-05 02:13:44 PM

studs up: GWB and BO were/are the heads of a murder spree company in Iraq and Afghanistan. You should be calling for their lifetime imprisonment as well as the members of the armed services that have killed in these wars.


GWB started it....

And, no, those serving the orders of their superiors should not be convicted of doing their jerb. The superiours, OTOH, well... Let's just say I'm not a big fan, ja?
 
2013-04-05 02:14:26 PM

The Muthaship: Paul Baumer: I know a lot of folks would like to forego due process

But, I assure you this: The guy is never paying another dollar of rent on his current apartment.  His belongings he will either sell or give to family (or away).  His car will be sold.  Even if he wants to pay rent (again, he won't), the landlord will evict him as soon as possible.  The boilerplate language on his lease has at least 3 clauses that can be used to remove him.  He is down to zero expenses, and he will be getting that $1500/mo. the rest of his life.  He can afford and should want his own counsel.

Thanks for the irrelevant justice lecture, on the end.  I can always use more of that.


That is the most impressive display of seeing the future I've ever seen.  Do the stock market next!  Now, it doesn't really address the idea of even if you are 100% accurate how much trial attorney $1500/mo buys (hint: none), and whether that meaningfully meets the right to counsel, but looking on the bright side, I did find your copy of the Constitution.

inpraiseofargument.squarespace.com
 
2013-04-05 02:18:25 PM
FTA:   "... and he has a DVD collection of child pornography. So, we have a lot of work to do."

/ and lo' did the FBI fap, and fap, and fap again !
 
2013-04-05 02:19:07 PM

Paul Baumer: how much trial attorney $1500/mo buys (hint: none)


$1500/mo. for 20 years buys a great one.

And I'm all for his rights, not sure why you think otherwise.  His right to appointed counsel has contingencies he doesn't meet.
 
2013-04-05 02:20:19 PM
This isn't the top of evil. The people who actually fark the kids are the top of evil. These guys are just broken. I mean, seriously, unless he was raking in cash for what he was doing, this guy was doing something obsessive. If he was telling the truth about wearing children's underwear, he was probably fantasizing about being the kids in the videos, not screwing the kids.
 
2013-04-05 02:22:51 PM

Fano: Igor Jakovsky: He looks like rasputin. Rasputin was a priest wasn't he?

Ra ra Lover of the Russian queen


Ra Ra John Shearen
Lover of the child porn
There was a cat who really was gone.

Ra Ra John Shearen
Computer was his love machine
It was a shame how he carried on
 
2013-04-05 02:28:09 PM
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The Muthaship: Paul Baumer: how much trial attorney $1500/mo buys (hint: none)

$1500/mo. for 20 years buys a great one.


Find me a trial attorney that works on a 20 year payment plan  

And I'm all for his rights, not sure why you think otherwise.

Because you apparently don't think he's poor enough to warrant a public defender, despite having an income below the US poverty line.

His right to appointed counsel has contingencies he doesn't meet.

WTF does this even mean?  I thinkyou have simply butchered the use of word "contingencies" and really meant "standards", but I'll let you confirm.  By the way, do you even know what the standard is for a public defense since you are so sure he doesn't meet them?  I'm  guessing "no", but surprise me.
 
2013-04-05 02:32:20 PM
Leesburg? well ain't that just dandy..
 
2013-04-05 02:33:20 PM

Paul Baumer: Find me a trial attorney that works on a 20 year payment plan


3 years gets him $50k.  I can find you as many as you want.

Paul Baumer: Because you apparently don't think he's poor enough to warrant a public defender, despite having an income below the US poverty line.


You have no idea what his income is, neither do I.  At minimum he gets $1500 a month.  Forever.

Paul Baumer: WTF does this even mean?  I thinkyou have simply butchered the use of word "contingencies" and really meant "standards", but I'll let you confirm.  By the way, do you even know what the standard is for a public defense since you are so sure he doesn't meet them?  I'm  guessing "no", but surprise me.


The right to an appointed attorney is contingent on the person being unable to afford an attorney, professor.  He can afford one.
 
2013-04-05 02:36:11 PM

The Muthaship: Paul Baumer: I know a lot of folks would like to forego due process

Smooth segue.  I am not such a person.  But, I assure you this: The guy is never paying another dollar of rent on his current apartment.  His belongings he will either sell or give to family (or away).  His car will be sold.  Even if he wants to pay rent (again, he won't), the landlord will evict him as soon as possible.  The boilerplate language on his lease has at least 3 clauses that can be used to remove him.  He is down to zero expenses, and he will be getting that $1500/mo. the rest of his life.  He can afford and should want his own counsel.

Thanks for the irrelevant justice lecture, on the end.  I can always use more of that.


You think any private lawyer will touch this case for $1500/month plus the proceeds from a used car sale?

No, I think you're smarter than that. If you want to deny him a public defender based on the fact that he has $1500/month and a used car to sell, your motive is quite clear.

If this guy is guilty (and it certainly looks that way) then justice will be easily served and he will be incarcerated for the rest of his useful life. The best a public defender, or any private lawyer, could do would be to get an acquittal based on a technicality. The likely outcome is a plea bargain. Still, it'll take some work to get there and I doubt $1500/month is going to do it, unless he goes the "just enter a guilty plea and try to keep me off death row" route.
 
2013-04-05 02:39:19 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: You think any private lawyer will touch this case for $1500/month plus the proceeds from a used car sale?


I agree that this is a pretty clear plea deal case.  That's why the lawyer would agree to the installment plan.  A good private attorney would take this case for $15k with a built in increase if there's a trial to maybe $25k.  Wouldn't take long to get that money at $1000-$1200 a month, and he still has plenty of money for the commissary.
 
2013-04-05 02:44:05 PM

The Muthaship: Paul Baumer: Find me a trial attorney that works on a 20 year payment plan

3 years gets him $50k.  I can find you as many as you want.


Okay, find three.
 
2013-04-05 02:46:19 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Okay, find three.


Do you really think a lawyer wouldn't take a guaranteed $1000-$1500 a month payment plan?  Or do I have to provide letters of representation?
 
2013-04-05 02:49:47 PM

The Muthaship: The right to an appointed attorney is contingent on the person being unable to afford an attorney, professor.  He can afford one.


Here, let me acquaint you with the actual Florida "law" - it's that stuff us regular people use (we write it down and stuff) instead of just making it up or looking into the future with magic powers

"a person who has income that is equal to or less than 200% of the current federal poverty guidelines, or who is unable to pay for the services of a private attorney without substantial hardship to his family, is indigent and qualifies for the services of the Public Defender. "

And now, lets put his income to the test - 200% of the 2013 poverty standard is $22,980. 18000 (1500x12) is "less than" this amount.

Finally, here's some prima facia evidence - a presiding judge in the case provided him one, so he's already  been given legal status as qualifying for public defense.
 
2013-04-05 02:50:37 PM

The Muthaship: Do you really think a lawyer wouldn't take a guaranteed $1000-$1500 a month payment plan?


Know how I know you've never hired an attorney on a payment plan?
 
2013-04-05 02:56:39 PM
At least he went out on top!

/Gross
 
2013-04-05 03:00:50 PM

The Muthaship: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Okay, find three.

Do you really think a lawyer wouldn't take a guaranteed $1000-$1500 a month payment plan?  Or do I have to provide letters of representation?


You're the one who said, "I can find you as many as you want." I think three is a reasonable number because you are not sitting in jail, so you have a pretty big advantage.

Now, having just read the linked WFTV article that has a tiny bit more info, "Agents said Shearen admitted his crimes." So, he could be denied a public defender who would likely just enter a plea deal. Or he could get to his hearing, declare that he couldn't find a lawyer to represent him, and get one then. It just seems like a BS way to derail a slam-dunk case.
 
2013-04-05 03:02:41 PM

Paul Baumer: a presiding judge in the case provided him one, so he's already  been given legal status as qualifying for public defense


Then why is that silly other judge thinking about revoking it?  Probably because he didn't disclose his income.  And you are assuming the $1500/mo is all of his income.

Paul Baumer: Know how I know you've never hired an attorney on a payment plan?


I've worked with literally hundreds of criminal defense lawyers.

/Why am I not surprised FL allows for 200% of the poverty line.....
 
2013-04-05 03:04:13 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: I think three is a reasonable number because you are not sitting in jail, so you have a pretty big advantage.


3 would be no problem.  In fact, they would probably bid against each other if they could and do it for less.  It ain't the salad days in that industry.
 
2013-04-05 03:04:31 PM

Paul Baumer: The Muthaship: The right to an appointed attorney is contingent on the person being unable to afford an attorney, professor.  He can afford one.

Here, let me acquaint you with the actual Florida "law" - it's that stuff us regular people use (we write it down and stuff) instead of just making it up or looking into the future with magic powers

"a person who has income that is equal to or less than 200% of the current federal poverty guidelines, or who is unable to pay for the services of a private attorney without substantial hardship to his family, is indigent and qualifies for the services of the Public Defender. "

And now, lets put his income to the test - 200% of the 2013 poverty standard is $22,980. 18000 (1500x12) is "less than" this amount.

Finally, here's some prima facia evidence - a presiding judge in the case provided him one, so he's already  been given legal status as qualifying for public defense.


Well, you're not taking into account all the income he made from trading child porn. Oh, wait... :-)

But seriously, the faster this guy gets his day in court, the sooner justice will be served. Give him the PD, make sure everything is done correctly so he can't get off (huhuhuh) on a technicality, then lock him up for a long, long time.
 
2013-04-05 03:04:36 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: someone here at work suggested a locked and sealed room. lined walls, one small observation window and a gun and a single bullet.

lock him in, give him the choice. use the bullet on himself or starve. someone else suggested putting two of them in there and give the gun to one and the bullet to the other. first one to fight and get both gets to kill themselves first. loser gets to starve with a dead body in the room.

i think i figured out that some of my coworkers aren't very nice.


I think most underage porno is made by kids with cell phones.

It may be time to clean the gene pool.
 
2013-04-05 03:08:15 PM
I maintain a fairly decent collection of pornographic image files for personal use, very little absolutely none of which is child porn, and if I've ever exceeded even 10,000 images I'd be surprised.

A million images is a LOT of pron, although I bet he had a bunch of dupes.
 
2013-04-05 03:10:23 PM

The Muthaship: Mitch Taylor's Bro: I think three is a reasonable number because you are not sitting in jail, so you have a pretty big advantage.

3 would be no problem.  In fact, they would probably bid against each other if they could and do it for less.  It ain't the salad days in that industry.


Okay, since it's a Friday, how about by Wednesday? Three names of actual defense attorneys who would go on record as defending this guy for whatever he could afford. In a previous post, you said, "I've worked with literally hundreds of criminal defense lawyers." You'd be doing this guy a favor and helping justice get served that much faster.
 
2013-04-05 03:12:04 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Three names of actual defense attorneys who would go on record as defending this guy for whatever he could afford.


I'm sure they'd love that.
 
2013-04-05 03:14:02 PM
It's amazing to me that there are 500,000 to 1,000,000 child pron images in existence.
 
2013-04-05 03:14:31 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: I realize that this is a good thing, its great that we caught the guy. But why don't we go after the distribution networks and sources more often?

I mean hell, Anonymous does a better job of shutting these pervs down than the FBI does


But that would be wrong.  Because rights.
 
2013-04-05 03:14:33 PM
ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com

More how I pictured him
 
2013-04-05 03:16:31 PM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


Why?

We've got the most notorious didn't-kidnap-murder-or-buttfark-any-children they've ever taken into custody.

Why was this guy even arrested?  Were the officers just passing through and one of them was like, "Hey, that's the house of that dude we have that huge file on!"  "What dude?"  "The one who downloads like gazillions of child porn!"  "Ohhhh that guy!  ... hey let's make a short stop and arrest him, huh?"  "Probably should!"  Because if not, I demand to know why they weren't spending their resources tracking down missing children instead.
 
2013-04-05 03:20:53 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Paul Baumer: The Muthaship: The right to an appointed attorney is contingent on the person being unable to afford an attorney, professor.  He can afford one.

Here, let me acquaint you with the actual Florida "law" - it's that stuff us regular people use (we write it down and stuff) instead of just making it up or looking into the future with magic powers

"a person who has income that is equal to or less than 200% of the current federal poverty guidelines, or who is unable to pay for the services of a private attorney without substantial hardship to his family, is indigent and qualifies for the services of the Public Defender. "

And now, lets put his income to the test - 200% of the 2013 poverty standard is $22,980. 18000 (1500x12) is "less than" this amount.

Finally, here's some prima facia evidence - a presiding judge in the case provided him one, so he's already  been given legal status as qualifying for public defense.

Well, you're not taking into account all the income he made from trading child porn. Oh, wait... :-)

But seriously, the faster this guy gets his day in court, the sooner justice will be served. Give him the PD, make sure everything is done correctly so he can't get off (huhuhuh) on a technicality, then lock him up for a long, long time.


I've wondered before where anyone makes money selling child porn. Like, it's one of those crimes where the risk vastly exceeds the payoff, unless kiddie fiddlers are all as rich as Michael Jackson or Gary Glitter.
 
2013-04-05 03:24:19 PM

The Muthaship: Mitch Taylor's Bro: I think three is a reasonable number because you are not sitting in jail, so you have a pretty big advantage.

3 would be no problem.  In fact, they would probably bid against each other if they could and do it for less.  It ain't the salad days in that industry.


You are insane.  The idea that someone would take a 3 year payment plan from someone whose sole income will be a $1500 a month pension if incarcerated, who is subject to recovery lawsuits from anyone he already owes money to, as well as civil suits from the children he allegedly has images of, and fines/restitution to the state as a potential consequence of conviction.

The Muthaship: I've worked with literally hundreds of criminal defense lawyers.


I don't care what they like on their tacos, a criminal defense worthy of the name in an felony IT/porn case is going to be expensive - way north of 50k,  Nobody would take a $1500 payment plan on it's face, let alone one where the ability to pay is subject to significant risk of attachment from higher ranking claimants.
 
2013-04-05 03:26:28 PM

bluefoxicy: We've got the most notorious didn't-kidnap-murder-or-buttfark-any-children they've ever taken into custody.

Why was this guy even arrested?


2.bp.blogspot.com

Are you implying that the possession and distribution of child pornography shouldn't be a crime?
 
2013-04-05 03:26:49 PM
Why was this poor man arrested? This is big gov't tyranny! The police state from 1984 is alredy here! THIS Is A VoLatiOn of this mans rights. It's a victimless crimE. We MUst bEE tolerant of others LiFestyles and Not reStrict there freedoms!
 
2013-04-05 03:28:46 PM

jigger: It's amazing to me that there are 500,000 to 1,000,000 child pron images in existence.


They count each frame of a film as an image to stack the charges high enough so that you'll go quietly.
 
2013-04-05 03:32:12 PM
www.theglobaldispatch.com

christianmartell.com
 
2013-04-05 03:35:02 PM
Shearen has a public defender, but that could change very soon. The judge in this case is considering removing the free attorney because Shearen gets $1,500 a month from his Navy pension and has a car which he could sell to pay for a private attorney.

You know, pedofork or not, the guy DOES deserve his Miranda Rights to a public attorney if he cannot afford one (and it's obvious he can't afford one). $1500 a mo.? That's about two days work for a noob lawyer.
 
2013-04-05 03:36:03 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: I realize that this is a good thing, its great that we caught the guy. But why don't we go after the distribution networks and sources more often?

I mean hell, Anonymous does a better job of shutting these pervs down than the FBI does


A lot of republicans in Congress wouldn't like it if they started getting raided. That's why.
 
2013-04-05 03:36:37 PM

Paul Baumer: Second most disturbing thing in the article -

Shearen has a public defender, but that could change very soon. The judge in this case is considering removing the free attorney because Shearen gets $1,500 a month from his Navy pension and has a car which he could sell to pay for a private attorney.

An 18k pension and a used car qualify for a public defender.  I like gettin' tough on criminals as much as the next guy, but show trials are where I draw the line.


That whole, "If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided" line is pure bullshiat.  If someone has a job flipping burgers, they'll be deemed "able to afford an attorney".  But a drug dealer with no documented source of income gets free representation.  $1500/month and a used car wouldn't get Lionel Hutz, let alone a competent attorney.  A family lawyer charges $250.hr or more to write a will.  I don't even want to know what a good trail lawyer costs.

If they get to the end of the trial and he's found guilty, I can see confiscating his car and draining his bank account(s) to cover the cost of his defense but refusing to provide counsel for an  accused person is not justice.  I checked my county's procedures and it looks like, here, anyone can ask for a public defender but the judge has the discretion to charge up to $90/hr at the end of the trial.  Sounds like this guy's in a county that determines the financial burden in advance.  Seems backwards.
 
2013-04-05 03:38:15 PM

Paul Baumer: jigger: It's amazing to me that there are 500,000 to 1,000,000 child pron images in existence.

They count each frame of a film as an image to stack the charges high enough so that you'll go quietly.


At that rate, the worst case scenario is that he still has over 11 and a half hours of child pornography videos.
 
2013-04-05 03:44:26 PM
At the bottom of the page:

"Monitoring child porn websites? I kinda have mixed feelings about illegal websites being allowed to continue operation so the authorities can catch people who visit them."

/agree
 
2013-04-05 03:46:43 PM
What he has to look forward to in prison:
 
2013-04-05 03:48:21 PM
Ok, why can't the preview just tell you when an image is too large?

Link
 
2013-04-05 03:49:39 PM

DeadGeek: Ok, why can't the preview just tell you when an image is too large?

Link


Blocked for "Pornography". Maybe it's best you weren't able to post it in the thread.
 
2013-04-05 03:51:10 PM
I bet he was a Brony.
 
2013-04-05 04:09:52 PM
Annnnnd I'm off to shave now...
 
2013-04-05 04:11:44 PM

Treygreen13: Are you implying that the possession and distribution of child pornography shouldn't be a crime?


Well, that's one valid consideration.

The other is that maybe it should be a lesser crime.

Or maybe we should be spending our resources chasing around criminal gangs that abduct children, or investigating individuals that are suspected of such activities.

I imagine they put a fine amount of detective work into monitoring, investigating, locating, profiling, and raiding this guy.  You know, hundreds or thousands of man-hours, hundreds of thousands of dollars of police resources, etc.  I see a lot--I mean a LOT--of news articles about how we've got another no-life introvert in jail for wanking it a lot at his PC; but high-profile cases like Sandrusky's butt-farkery hit the screen once in a decade or two.  I think Sandrusky was the first in the history of Internet child pornography.

Now will somebody tell me why we've had ONE child butt-banger roped and tied, and a bunch of autistic kids downloading naked 12 year olds?  Why haven't we had one or two non-news stories of some idiot getting slapped on the wrist for downloading naked pictures, and a flood of court cases of busts of massive human trafficking schemes where small children are abducted from their homes to make child pornography?

See this is the problem.  We're not actually stopping people from banging kids; we're stopping people from being icky.
 
2013-04-05 04:11:56 PM
looks like a 60's rock musician.  heck, kinda looks like a bearded john lennon.
 
2013-04-05 04:19:21 PM

bluefoxicy: Treygreen13: Are you implying that the possession and distribution of child pornography shouldn't be a crime?

Well, that's one valid consideration.

The other is that maybe it should be a lesser crime.

Or maybe we should be spending our resources chasing around criminal gangs that abduct children, or investigating individuals that are suspected of such activities.

I imagine they put a fine amount of detective work into monitoring, investigating, locating, profiling, and raiding this guy.  You know, hundreds or thousands of man-hours, hundreds of thousands of dollars of police resources, etc.  I see a lot--I mean a LOT--of news articles about how we've got another no-life introvert in jail for wanking it a lot at his PC; but high-profile cases like Sandrusky's butt-farkery hit the screen once in a decade or two.  I think Sandrusky was the first in the history of Internet child pornography.

Now will somebody tell me why we've had ONE child butt-banger roped and tied, and a bunch of autistic kids downloading naked 12 year olds?  Why haven't we had one or two non-news stories of some idiot getting slapped on the wrist for downloading naked pictures, and a flood of court cases of busts of massive human trafficking schemes where small children are abducted from their homes to make child pornography?

See this is the problem.  We're not actually stopping people from banging kids; we're stopping people from being icky.


It sounds (from the article) that they were monitoring the guy's use and distribution patterns to get solid evidence against him AND (hopefully) find the people making it. Which leads to moments like in January, when the government busted an entire ring of people making and distributing child pornography. 245 people, to be exact. Also, they freed or identified 123 children who were abused by those people.

http://www.voanews.com/content/us-arrests-245-suspects-in-child-porn og raphy-ring/1577387.html
(source)

So just because they didn't arrest a kiddy-diddler this time doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And frankly I'm happy he's off the street. The people who consume this sort of media are the people who will be committing the actual crimes. Nobody is casually interested in child pornography.

Making child pornography possession legal (god why would you even do that) or a "lesser crime" doesn't accomplish anything.
 
2013-04-05 04:26:47 PM

The Muthaship: Mitch Taylor's Bro: Three names of actual defense attorneys who would go on record as defending this guy for whatever he could afford.

I'm sure they'd love that.


Okay then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NDGaxVV0h4
 
2013-04-05 04:29:38 PM
blogs.westword.com

/ always thought he looked pedo-ish
 
2013-04-05 04:35:27 PM

Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?


I'm for removing your right to vote.
 
2013-04-05 04:38:48 PM

Treygreen13: It sounds (from the article) that they were monitoring the guy's use and distribution patterns to get solid evidence against him AND (hopefully) find the people making it. Which leads to moments like in January, when the government busted an entire ring of people making and distributing child pornography. 245 people, to be exact. Also, they freed or identified 123 children who were abused by those people.

http://www.voanews.com/content/us-arrests-245-suspects-in-child-porn og raphy-ring/1577387.html
(source)


Well good.

So just because they didn't arrest a kiddy-diddler this time doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And frankly I'm happy he's off the street. The people who consume this sort of media are the people who will be committing the actual crimes

You don't know that.  This is the Internet, open your farking eyes.  Between IRC, 4chan, and a number of other random chat services, I've gotten it in my head that 10%-25% of the people I meet on the street are likely casual pedophiles.  Most of them don't consume child pornography or bang kids.  A lot of people seem interested in 12-13 year olds though.

Thoughtcrime, how does it work?

I'm more interested in realcrime.  Consumption of certain media, maybe bad, maybe we don't want that stuff spread around society, I can see that.  Implying that these people are going to become those people?  Uh, no, so many flaws and so many terrible, terrible slippery slopes.
 
2013-04-05 04:40:22 PM

Treygreen13: Making child pornography possession legal (god why would you even do that) or a "lesser crime" doesn't accomplish anything.


That's not the point.  Asking those questions and returning that, no, we think this would be a bad thing... that's a good thing to do once in a while.

I mean, what the hell, why would you ever ask if we should make DRUUUUUGS legal?  Marijuana should get you shot in the head, we know this, it's a gateway drug to get 11 year olds smoking meth!
 
2013-04-05 04:48:35 PM

bluefoxicy: You don't know that.  This is the Internet, open your farking eyes.  Between IRC, 4chan, and a number of other random chat services, I've gotten it in my head that 10%-25% of the people I meet on the street are likely casual pedophiles.  Most of them don't consume child pornography or bang kids.  A lot of people seem interested in 12-13 year olds though.

Thoughtcrime, how does it work?

I'm more interested in realcrime.  Consumption of certain media, maybe bad, maybe we don't want that stuff spread around society, I can see that.  Implying that these people are going to become those people?  Uh, no, so many flaws and so many terrible, terrible slippery slopes.


Thoughtcrime? Try "Crimecrime". The possession and distribution of child pornography is illegal. This guy got caught and is going to jail. I am not upset by it, and the world is a better place without this creepy dude and his library of videos of children being molested.

Your cries for the legalization of the possession of child pornography are falling on deaf ears. I don't care about your motivation for it. I'm willing to entertain a lot of ideas and concepts but this is one I won't spend another second thinking about.
 
2013-04-05 04:50:17 PM

bluefoxicy: That's not the point.  Asking those questions and returning that, no, we think this would be a bad thing... that's a good thing to do once in a while.


Ok, here, I'll think about it for you. Should people be allowed to have a million images of children being molested?
*thinks*
No.

bluefoxicy: I mean, what the hell, why would you ever ask if we should make DRUUUUUGS legal?  Marijuana should get you shot in the head, we know this, it's a gateway drug to get 11 year olds smoking meth!


Fark this. I'm out.
i291.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-05 05:10:00 PM

Paul Baumer: The Muthaship: Mitch Taylor's Bro: I think three is a reasonable number because you are not sitting in jail, so you have a pretty big advantage.

3 would be no problem.  In fact, they would probably bid against each other if they could and do it for less.  It ain't the salad days in that industry.

You are insane.  The idea that someone would take a 3 year payment plan from someone whose sole income will be a $1500 a month pension if incarcerated, who is subject to recovery lawsuits from anyone he already owes money to, as well as civil suits from the children he allegedly has images of, and fines/restitution to the state as a potential consequence of conviction.

The Muthaship: I've worked with literally hundreds of criminal defense lawyers.

I don't care what they like on their tacos, a criminal defense worthy of the name in an felony IT/porn case is going to be expensive - way north of 50k,  Nobody would take a $1500 payment plan on it's face, let alone one where the ability to pay is subject to significant risk of attachment from higher ranking claimants.


Most people have only heard about this from the news or when it occasionally happens to a farked up friend or family member of theirs.  By the time they come knocking on someone's door for this kind of thing, it isn't because they accidentally clicked a link and ended up at a shady website.  It isn't because they got tricked into downloading something mislabeled.  It isn't because they frequent those
porn sites where the girls are all 30 but say they're 18.  99.999% of the time, when they're at your door, the case is already more or less complete.  Even if you burned your house down and hadn't a single shred of evidence on you or around you, chances are you're still going to jail.  They don't have your average street beat cop saying 'hey this girl looks a little young lets go rough him up and question him.'  They've got people who are specially trained in just this sort of thing, who are good with computers, who know the internet pretty well, and who already have some kind of setup going with various shady websites.  Even if you took out the 'that guy looks creepy, of course he did it!' that the jury will no doubt be thinking the whole time, there's going to be a damn near airtight chain of evidence, probable cause, warrant, search, and subsequent arrest.

Source: A guy used to live beside me who was borderline mentally retarded.  He was like 35, lived with his parents, etc.  He got into some pretty shady shiat apparently and the Feds came to haul him away.  That was back in the day where people still almost exclusively bought/sold the stuff, and he spent a lot of money on it.  Of course all the neighbors got questioned to see if we had any additional info.  Evidence at his trial was pretty much everything he had sent/received regarding it.  They had it all.
 
2013-04-05 05:30:45 PM
There was an 11 year old kid missing from school here in Albuquerque, later found ok. He was caught at school smoking pot. 11 Years old!
Lst night on the news here, there was a youth minister caught with a load of kiddie porn. Thought since he was a youth miniister, that was a prerequisite. Move along...
 
2013-04-05 05:57:56 PM
Before you read this post please be advised that I will discuss a topic which cannot be discussed without a certain amount of foul language and fouler imagery.

Mr. Florida from the news story is not exactly the perfect example for a discussion I had with some friends, but pretty close. It was one of those rare occasions everyone in the local gang of academics were kinda in agreement, and all slightly horrified. The discussion was about victimless crimes (spurred on by a local change in laws regarding prostitution), and one dude studying ethics shoot in an argument that seemed sound and disturbing.

The douchebag in the news story opts out of being the perfect example for the discussion because he distributed child pornography, which we all agreed should be illegal.
 But what if he hadn't? What if he'd just dl'd 500.000 of the most disturbing imagry you could imagine and sat at home wanking away. Should this be illegal?
I mean, yes, it's disgusting as fark, but then again the idea that someone sits down and listens to Soulja Boy or Lil'Wayne because they want to listen to music makes me vomit a little into my mouth.

I don't think anything should be illegal until you can point to a victim and say "There. His/her life was ruined/made worse because of this."

And yes, I'm a father and the idea that someone should molest my kids fills me with rage. "Thinking about murdering somone" rage. But this guy didn't do that.
The idea that someone should profit by such an act, either directly or indirectly is obscene and is one of those things that makes me wonder if Sharia is the way to go (no, not really. It really really isn't). And helping someone profit from it by giving them money is pretty much just as bad.
That someone should distribute in any way depictions of children getting molested is horrific, and is and should be illegal pretty much everywhere. It makes available a theft of a childhood for the enjoyment of others, bringing it into the public sphere, increasing the chance that not only has the kids life been ruined but the complete heinousness becomes public knowledge.

So far I'm guessing everyone is agreeing with me. We're talking disturbing shiat here.

But then it's the fourth step removed from the original crime. The fat perv sitting at home wanking to pics dl'd frome some near sightet bearded dude in Florida. Imagine that he doesn't distribute anything that is downloaded. Imagine that he is not paying for the material in question, which would allow someone else to profit from it.
I mean, yes it's disgusting, but people do disgusting things all the time. If someone is just sitting at home, wanking away, not making the material public to anyone else, not partaking in any molestation, not protecting anyone who does (imagine that all faces are removed or smthn), not giving anyone money for making available this material, not partaing in online foras where pedophilia is encouraged where he could normalize this for others, simply being a dead end on the chain of distribution, a black hole that gives nothing out, neither material nor money: Should this be illegal and why?
Not furthering, promoting or causing damage to those abused in the material. "gaining" in the sense that he's getting satisfaction from it, sure. But people also seem to get satisfaction from other gruesome crimes every day without it being illegal to do so. You see someone get shot in the head, but it's great because it was a democrat governor, or someone accidentally shoots himself but it's just funny because its a republican gun-toating redneck. Douchebaggery of the first degree, sure. Illegal: no.

I would very much like for someone to make an argument for keeping the procurement or storage of these vids and pics illegal, because it feels so wrong to say "no, that should probably be legal." But that's what discussing stuff with philosophers can do with you. Three years after having a discussion you can look at a thread at FARK and just feel dirty, with a perfect understanding of why. Which makes me feel dirtier.

So, please, I beg you. Refute me :(
 
2013-04-05 06:18:05 PM
I have to go with this is a disease, they cannot help it. I go onto amazon look at iphone cases, I don't buy anything. I turn my computer off. I turn it back on and go to fark, and Presto! there's the case I was looking at on the right hand side of the screen! don't get me wrong, I know you can still mask your ip address if you know what your doing. but these people are like politicians who cheat on their wives, or clown who runs a Ponzi scheme. how could you not know at some point you will be caught? most likely by your own greediness. my name is bob and I am an alcoholic.
 
2013-04-05 06:18:12 PM

wickedragon: So, please, I beg you. Refute me :(


Think less like a philosopher and more like an economist. Consuming media of this type tells the person creating it that it is in demand. The more perceived demand for it, the more of it will be produced.
 
2013-04-05 06:36:08 PM

Treygreen13: wickedragon: So, please, I beg you. Refute me :(

Think less like a philosopher and more like an economist. Consuming media of this type tells the person creating it that it is in demand. The more perceived demand for it, the more of it will be produced.


But that's only if the producer gets feedback of some sort stating that there is demand. What if it's fourth or fifth chain sharers that feeds our pedo troll?
 
2013-04-05 06:36:45 PM

Treygreen13: wickedragon: So, please, I beg you. Refute me :(

Think less like a philosopher and more like an economist. Consuming media of this type tells the person creating it that it is in demand. The more perceived demand for it, the more of it will be produced.


Does a kiddy-farker do it for some OTHER reason other than farking kiddies? It's like Jon Stewart and the GOP goat-farkers. I didn't know it's the only thing keeping them from farking goats.
 
2013-04-05 06:58:39 PM

Slam Dunkz: Private_Citizen: Ok, let's get the ball rolling right:

Anyone against the Death penalty for this creep?
Anyone?

I am.  I think the death penalty should be done away with.  The crime doesn't matter.  Lock him up, throw away the key (once found guilty).  Can't kill him.

If you can't trust the govt to manage your healthcare then you can't trust them to decide when people should be put to death.  Simple as that.


Yea, I did a 180 on my support of capital punishment. Morally and practically I think it's the right thing to do and should be expanded to all violent crimes, however I don't don't trust the government to get it right.
 
2013-04-05 07:21:36 PM

wickedragon: But that's only if the producer gets feedback of some sort stating that there is demand. What if it's fourth or fifth chain sharers that feeds our pedo troll?


He could easily look at the websites that carry and trade that sort of thing, and notice the popularity of such a video or image.

vygramul: Does a kiddy-farker do it for some OTHER reason other than farking kiddies? It's like Jon Stewart and the GOP goat-farkers. I didn't know it's the only thing keeping them from farking goats.


Do you think a goat farker would do it more if people were clamoring to see him fark goats? Or less?
 
2013-04-05 07:29:08 PM
Although I do have to admit that the child porn trade networks actually indirectly have a benefit. It allows the government to find and locate large numbers of pedophiles at once, and provides them all the evidence they could ever need. Some of those pedophiles might be out abusing children privately for years before they're caught. But the second one of those guys uploads his first picture up, his name, location, and evidence of his crime are right there for everyone to see.
 
2013-04-05 07:31:15 PM

Treygreen13: wickedragon: But that's only if the producer gets feedback of some sort stating that there is demand. What if it's fourth or fifth chain sharers that feeds our pedo troll?

He could easily look at the websites that carry and trade that sort of thing, and notice the popularity of such a video or image.


I must admit I dont know much about the exact nature of the transactions. In my mind it's just something like DC++ or torrents or smthn. I mean, yes, if it is something like youtube and you can clearly see how popular a video is that would be a strong social incentive to continue making such videos, and then I'll agree that it is wrong. And thank you :)

PS! Does it help you to use detached language describing this, like "that sort of thing", "such a video or image"? Because it helps me. I don't know how police who has to go through all the evidence stay detached, analytic and professional. :/
 
2013-04-05 07:37:08 PM

wickedragon: Treygreen13: wickedragon: But that's only if the producer gets feedback of some sort stating that there is demand. What if it's fourth or fifth chain sharers that feeds our pedo troll?

He could easily look at the websites that carry and trade that sort of thing, and notice the popularity of such a video or image.

I must admit I dont know much about the exact nature of the transactions. In my mind it's just something like DC++ or torrents or smthn. I mean, yes, if it is something like youtube and you can clearly see how popular a video is that would be a strong social incentive to continue making such videos, and then I'll agree that it is wrong. And thank you :)

PS! Does it help you to use detached language describing this, like "that sort of thing", "such a video or image"? Because it helps me. I don't know how police who has to go through all the evidence stay detached, analytic and professional. :/


I imagine there's one guy sitting at a computer, and just hitting "next" and highlighting anything that isn't child pornography and dragging it to a different folder.

When he gets to the end of the collection of horrific images, he sighs, opens the tray, and puts in the next DVD. And he crosses his fingers and hopes it's vacation pictures or something. And one of them actually is, like, a shot of this guy in board shorts on a beach and he goes, "Whew, it's actually vacation pictures!" and then he notices the guy is in Thailand and he sighs in defeat.
 
2013-04-05 07:38:16 PM

Treygreen13: wickedragon: But that's only if the producer gets feedback of some sort stating that there is demand. What if it's fourth or fifth chain sharers that feeds our pedo troll?

He could easily look at the websites that carry and trade that sort of thing, and notice the popularity of such a video or image.

vygramul: Does a kiddy-farker do it for some OTHER reason other than farking kiddies? It's like Jon Stewart and the GOP goat-farkers. I didn't know it's the only thing keeping them from farking goats.

Do you think a goat farker would do it more if people were clamoring to see him fark goats? Or less?


I suspect a kiddy farker will fark the kids as often as he can get a boner to begin with. No opportunity wasted once you commit.
 
2013-04-05 07:42:06 PM

vygramul: Treygreen13: wickedragon: But that's only if the producer gets feedback of some sort stating that there is demand. What if it's fourth or fifth chain sharers that feeds our pedo troll?

He could easily look at the websites that carry and trade that sort of thing, and notice the popularity of such a video or image.

vygramul: Does a kiddy-farker do it for some OTHER reason other than farking kiddies? It's like Jon Stewart and the GOP goat-farkers. I didn't know it's the only thing keeping them from farking goats.

Do you think a goat farker would do it more if people were clamoring to see him fark goats? Or less?

I suspect a kiddy farker will fark the kids as often as he can get a boner to begin with. No opportunity wasted once you commit.


I try not to think too hard about the thought process of child pornographers, but I would think that someone producing pornography for distribution would increase their number of "co-stars" and begin expanding their sexual conquests in order to satisfy both their voyeuristic needs and the desires of their viewers. Much like a regular pornographer.
 
2013-04-05 07:50:02 PM

Treygreen13: DeadGeek: Ok, why can't the preview just tell you when an image is too large?

Link

Blocked for "Pornography". Maybe it's best you weren't able to post it in the thread.


Strange, it's an animated gif of two guys from the shoulder up and one dropping a bar of soap. No porn there.
 
2013-04-05 07:51:35 PM

DeadGeek: Treygreen13: DeadGeek: Ok, why can't the preview just tell you when an image is too large?

Link

Blocked for "Pornography". Maybe it's best you weren't able to post it in the thread.

Strange, it's an animated gif of two guys from the shoulder up and one dropping a bar of soap. No porn there.


You never know with the work filter. I'm home now so I can see it.
 
2013-04-05 07:52:13 PM

Treygreen13: wickedragon: Treygreen13: wickedragon: But that's only if the producer gets feedback of some sort stating that there is demand. What if it's fourth or fifth chain sharers that feeds our pedo troll?

He could easily look at the websites that carry and trade that sort of thing, and notice the popularity of such a video or image.

I must admit I dont know much about the exact nature of the transactions. In my mind it's just something like DC++ or torrents or smthn. I mean, yes, if it is something like youtube and you can clearly see how popular a video is that would be a strong social incentive to continue making such videos, and then I'll agree that it is wrong. And thank you :)

PS! Does it help you to use detached language describing this, like "that sort of thing", "such a video or image"? Because it helps me. I don't know how police who has to go through all the evidence stay detached, analytic and professional. :/

I imagine there's one guy sitting at a computer, and just hitting "next" and highlighting anything that isn't child pornography and dragging it to a different folder.

When he gets to the end of the collection of horrific images, he sighs, opens the tray, and puts in the next DVD. And he crosses his fingers and hopes it's vacation pictures or something. And one of them actually is, like, a shot of this guy in board shorts on a beach and he goes, "Whew, it's actually vacation pictures!" and then he notices the guy is in Thailand and he sighs in defeat.


That sounds way to plausible. Probably some sort of report that needs to be filled out between disks as well, a welcome distraction. I bet he's the first to get to every department meeting and the last to leave.
 
2013-04-05 08:36:01 PM

vygramul: Treygreen13: wickedragon: But that's only if the producer gets feedback of some sort stating that there is demand. What if it's fourth or fifth chain sharers that feeds our pedo troll?

He could easily look at the websites that carry and trade that sort of thing, and notice the popularity of such a video or image.

vygramul: Does a kiddy-farker do it for some OTHER reason other than farking kiddies? It's like Jon Stewart and the GOP goat-farkers. I didn't know it's the only thing keeping them from farking goats.

Do you think a goat farker would do it more if people were clamoring to see him fark goats? Or less?

I suspect a kiddy farker will fark the kids as often as he can get a boner to begin with. No opportunity wasted once you commit.


I had no idea what a demanding hobby kiddy fiddling is. Worse than painting mini-figurines.
 
2013-04-05 09:34:13 PM
Every time a subby uses that kind of headline, it just reminds me of Steve Buscemi's SNL skit about the HS coach following the Paterno scandal.  I wonder how many pedophile pervs are going unnoticed for looking normal or attractive.
 
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