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(Hindustan Times)   Kim Jong-Un: A mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a windtalker wrapped in Scooby-Doo episode wrapped in bacon   (hindustantimes.com) divider line 175
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2013-04-05 10:05:33 AM  

Slartibartfaster: TV's Vinnie: China might not want to piss off their #1 debtor, who could use a war powers act to render all their debts to China null and void

They have already traded those with other nations, so if you null and void them you are going to piss off half the planet.


And your solution is......what? Let Fatty DingDongs get away with nuclear aggression?
 
2013-04-05 10:07:25 AM  

Fireproof: Anyone asking about the size of the NK military needs to RTFA:


They should be asking about the  quality of the NK Military. Numbers don't mean much when you're comparing Type 59's and T-62's to M1 Abrams and MIG-21's to F-22's....
 
2013-04-05 10:09:15 AM  

dukeblue219: Fireproof: Anyone asking about the size of the NK military needs to RTFA:

That graphic is VERY misleading. There's simply NO comparison between the 4,100 tanks the North supposedly has versus the 2,400 the South has. They would likely not face each other because the North doesn't have fuel to run them and if they did, American/Korean airpower would destroy them.

The idea that the North Koreans have more "combat aircraft" than the South is laughable if technically true. The North's most numerous fighter is the MiG-21 and they still have MiG-17's in the inventory. The South and the Americans have F-16's, F-15's, and F-22's which would decimate eliminate any force the North could even get off the ground.


FTFY,  Dont use that word except for its intended purpose.  If all we did was "decimate" their tanks and planes then it would be a laughably ineffective battle.
 
2013-04-05 10:12:38 AM  
How can we take a guy with Vanilla Ice's haircut seriously?  Can't we just send Sug Knight over there to dangle him over a balcony?  Is that why Rodman was there?
 
2013-04-05 10:12:47 AM  

orclover: FTFY,  Dont use that word except for its intended purpose.  If all we did was "decimate" their tanks and planes then it would be a laughably ineffective battle.


Merriam-Webster:
dec·i·mate
3a : to reduce drastically especially in number  <choleradecimated the population>
b : to cause great destruction or harm to  <firebombsdecimated the city> <an industry  decimated by recession>
 
2013-04-05 10:15:26 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Slartibartfaster: TV's Vinnie: China might not want to piss off their #1 debtor, who could use a war powers act to render all their debts to China null and void

They have already traded those with other nations, so if you null and void them you are going to piss off half the planet.

And your solution is......what? Let Fatty DingDongs get away with nuclear aggression?


nuclear threats, he has no ability to deliver and if he does others will smack him down
China could stop him with a timeout, if the USA gets involved it will be far more complicated
 
2013-04-05 10:16:13 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: /someone should shoop Kim's face onto that


been there, done that

choosepp.net
YORO!
 
2013-04-05 10:17:35 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Which is exactly what the US is doing right now


flying the B2 was a juvenile move
 
2013-04-05 10:21:56 AM  

Supracentral: Fireproof: Anyone asking about the size of the NK military needs to RTFA:

They should be asking about the  quality of the NK Military. Numbers don't mean much when you're comparing Type 59's and T-62's to M1 Abrams and MIG-21's to F-22's....


Very true. It hinted at a bit when giving the number of "serviceable" aircraft they had, but doesn't at all get into the age or anything of the equipment.
 
2013-04-05 10:22:21 AM  

dukeblue219: Fireproof: Anyone asking about the size of the NK military needs to RTFA:

That graphic is VERY misleading. There's simply NO comparison between the 4,100 tanks the North supposedly has versus the 2,400 the South has. They would likely not face each other because the North doesn't have fuel to run them and if they did, American/Korean airpower would destroy them.

The idea that the North Koreans have more "combat aircraft" than the South is laughable if technically true. The North's most numerous fighter is the MiG-21 and they still have MiG-17's in the inventory. The South and the Americans have F-16's, F-15's, and F-22's which would decimate any force the North could even get off the ground.


Supracentral: Fireproof: Anyone asking about the size of the NK military needs to RTFA:

They should be asking about the  quality of the NK Military. Numbers don't mean much when you're comparing Type 59's and T-62's to M1 Abrams and MIG-21's to F-22's....


My understanding is that only 2 F-22s were sent over for show.  Don't know how many bombers are available.
 
2013-04-05 10:22:50 AM  

Supracentral: They should be asking about the  quality of the NK Military. Numbers don't mean much when you're comparing Type 59's and T-62's to M1 Abrams and MIG-21's to F-22's....


Hell, NK is still fielding a significant number of T-34s!  Yeah, their quality is crap and due to fuel shortages I doubt the tank drivers and fighter pilots get a lot of actual training time.

Slartibartfaster: flying the B2 was a juvenile move


Spending money on nuclear weapons while your population starves is more juvenile.  What the hell do you want?  These clowns have shown that they won't listen to anything but brute force since Kim Il-Sung died.
 
2013-04-05 10:25:02 AM  

StrikitRich: My understanding is that only 2 F-22s were sent over for show.


Those bad boys have super cruise and we keep a good number of them in the general pacific region.  We could make that 2 turn into a much bigger number in about 6 hours.  That's power projection, something that the US happens to be very good at.
 
2013-04-05 10:25:22 AM  
5th largest army, huh?
America, China, Russia... ? ... NK.

Who is number 4? Mexico? Brazil?
 
2013-04-05 10:25:24 AM  

nekom: I'd even go one further, take out the mausoleum of kim il sung, Juche tower, everything like that. Make sure they know that the lie is now finished, time to wake the fark up. That shock isn't going to feel good for many of them, but it's best to get it out of the way early on, make sure they know that the jig is up for good.


So if the Chinese would take out the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial, you would wake up and surrender to Communism?
If that's how it works, why didn't we just send a squadron of bombers to Berlin in December of '41, take out the Reichstag and Brandenburg Gate, and the war would have been over by Christmas.
 
2013-04-05 10:25:58 AM  
ooh! India?
 
2013-04-05 10:27:43 AM  
The Nork military spends most of its time harvesting crops and working in factories, not training to fight. They are so short of food that they have sometimes been ordered to go back to their barracks and sleep more so they aren't as hungry. They have a lot of artillery and could do some damage to Seoul before being destroyed, the variable there is how much of their ammunition is dud, whether the crews are trained or fit enough to service the weapon, and if the pieces themselves are actually functional. There is some question as to if the Norks even HAVE a nuke, much less have figured out how to put it on a missile and they certainly have not tested a functional ballistic nuke - as any engineer knows without testing you don't find all the engineering bugs.

Comparing the Nork military to the South Korea's is a laugh. The South Koreans are making plans to occupy and bring food to the starving population, not worrying too much about actually defeating the Norks because that is a given. The question is whether the Chinese invade to prevent a united free Korea on its border.
 
2013-04-05 10:27:58 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: ooh! India?


India

Per Global Security:

1 China 1,600,000
2 South Korea 1,240,000
3 United States 1,125,000
4 India 1,120,000
5 North Korea 1,000,000
6 Israel 633,000
7 Pakistan 550,000
8 Russia 415,000
9 Vietnam 410,000
10 Turkey 400,000
 
2013-04-05 10:28:08 AM  

probesport: Sybarite: The current crisis, with its nuclear threats and Kim's lurid exhortations to his troops to "break the waists of the crazy enemies and totally cut their windpipes"

You have to watch out for those dangerous gyeok sul waist breaking techniques.

En gard, i'll let you try my wu-tang style.



What's it gonna be, Sissy? Which fighting style do you want me to kick your ass in? SISSY Are you kidding me? I taught you all all your moves myself. There's not a style you can bust that I can't defend against. JUSTICE You're no match for my "Shaolin Monk." SISSY Yeah, but I can bury you with my "Crouching Tiger." JUSTICE A little "Venus's--flytrap"? SISSY I'll counter with "Dragon Crane." JUSTICE How about a little "biatch, My Man Ain't Yo Baby's Daddy"? SISSY (beat; smiles) Bring it on.
 
2013-04-05 10:28:26 AM  

orclover: FTFY, Dont use that word except for its intended purpose. If all we did was "decimate" their tanks and planes then it would be a laughably ineffective battle.


Is that some sort of pet peeve????
 
2013-04-05 10:28:41 AM  
Iron Man is in South Korea now so I'm feeling a little better about the situation.
 
2013-04-05 10:28:52 AM  
I'm going to start dropping this in every NK thread, it's an excellent no-BS writeup on the military capabilities of the DPRK.  It's almost a year old now, but the conclusions reached here can be easily extended to the new hardware/nukes that they've shown they possess, the end result is the same.

http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-bet we en-rhetoric-and-reality/#introduction

One of the points made in there is that if the DPRK attempts to invade or cross the DMZ, they have to move however many hundreds of thousands of men through 3 well-defined paths that the SK's have had 50 years to map out, fortify, and build defenses around.  They would have to do this in a couple thousand thin-skinned vehicles, and in order to have any chance to overwhelm the enemy they would have to do it all at once, which means that the SK's would hear/see/feel them coming through either OP stations, satellite imagery, or ground sensors.  Also, a bunch of their artillery is hardened shelters, but must be uncovered from those shelters to fire accurately, then brought back in, and so on.

Long story short is that the DPRK has no effective logistical support for a campaign lasting longer than 2 weeks, much less 2 months.  If this turns out to be a shooting war, the regime is effectively finished.
 
2013-04-05 10:29:30 AM  
The most numerous transport aircraft in the North Korean inventory. They have 300 of these. And they have been completely grounded at various times because they don't have the fuel to fly them.upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-05 10:29:47 AM  
My guess is that this will go down like Jonestown x 100k. The whole nation will drink the final batch of Kool-Aid, the military leaders will gun down any who dissent, eliminate as much of their own rank and file as they can without catching a bullet themselves, and then surrender to South Korea in exchange for amnesty from the genocide they committed.
 
2013-04-05 10:30:11 AM  

The Bestest: Uchiha_Cycliste: ooh! India?

India

Per Global Security:

1 China 1,600,000
2 South Korea 1,240,000
3 United States 1,125,000
4 India 1,120,000
5 North Korea 1,000,000
6 Israel 633,000
7 Pakistan 550,000
8 Russia 415,000
9 Vietnam 410,000
10 Turkey 400,000


wow! Thanks. I would have guessed we were number one (based on spending). I also guessed that Russia was in the top 5. Though the article says that SK has 655,000 (active)  not 1.24M Anyways, thanks.
 
2013-04-05 10:30:22 AM  

SurelyShirley:
So if the Chinese would take out the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial, you would wake up and surrender to Communism?
If that's how it works, why didn't we just send a squadron of bombers to Berlin in December of '41, take out the Reichstag and Brandenburg Gate, and the war would have been over by Christmas.


There's a big difference there. Neither the Washington monument nor the Lincoln memorial mean anything to me other than being a part of the history of the nation I happened to get born in. I don't see huge photos of Obama all over the place, nor do I recall seeing any of Bush, Clinton, other Bush, Reagan or Carter in my lifetime (though to be fair, I was only an infant, perhaps I didn't notice the giant Carter photos everywhere). There is no cult of personality here. Sure there are those who believe that the USA is god's gift to the world, and while misguided they are under no pressure to believe that. On the contrary, comedians openly make fun of Obama, as they have done for every POTUS ever.

The entire CULTURE of DPRK, which seems to be solely based on a cult of personality, has got to go.
 
2013-04-05 10:31:54 AM  

LargeCanine: The Nork military spends most of its time harvesting crops and working in factories, not training to fight. They are so short of food that they have sometimes been ordered to go back to their barracks and sleep more so they aren't as hungry. They have a lot of artillery and could do some damage to Seoul before being destroyed, the variable there is how much of their ammunition is dud, whether the crews are trained or fit enough to service the weapon, and if the pieces themselves are actually functional. There is some question as to if the Norks even HAVE a nuke, much less have figured out how to put it on a missile and they certainly have not tested a functional ballistic nuke - as any engineer knows without testing you don't find all the engineering bugs.

Comparing the Nork military to the South Korea's is a laugh. The South Koreans are making plans to occupy and bring food to the starving population, not worrying too much about actually defeating the Norks because that is a given. The question is whether the Chinese invade to prevent a united free Korea on its border.


In the link I posted above, the general assumption is a 25% dud rate.  You're essentially taking away every fourth artillery piece of the ones that are functional enough to accurately and continuously fire.
 
2013-04-05 10:33:51 AM  

nekom: The entire CULTURE of DPRK USA which seems to be solely based on a cult of personality, has got to go

 
2013-04-05 10:34:04 AM  

Comic Book Guy: If this turns out to be a shooting war, the regime is effectively finished.


It can be argued that the regime is already in it's death throes even without military action so long as the rhetoric continues to be effectively ignored (ignored as in not bribing them off with food/supplies/whatever this time as was usually the case).

By essentially "calling their bluff" this time, they've lost their primary bargaining chip.
 
2013-04-05 10:34:34 AM  

The Bestest: Uchiha_Cycliste: ooh! India?

India

Per Global Security:

1 China 1,600,000
2 South Korea 1,240,000
3 United States 1,125,000
4 India 1,120,000
5 North Korea 1,000,000
6 Israel 633,000
7 Pakistan 550,000
8 Russia 415,000
9 Vietnam 410,000
10 Turkey 400,000


That's only "Army" though, right, judging from the link.  This list shows the USMC as a separate entity, and that would also indicate that the Navy and USAF are being excluded as well.  Still, that probably only makes the situation worse for NK, since their AF and navy are proportionally much smaller compared to their army.
 
2013-04-05 10:34:50 AM  

stuhayes2010: Does N Korea have a good army?  Or would this be another Gulf War? (over in days)


NO THEIR ARMY IS BAD AMERICA IS GOOD. ACTUALLY THEIR ARMY IS BAD TO EVERYONE. THEY ARE A FRIENDLESS DOUCHEBAG POINTING AN AK-47 WITH FOUR ROUNDS IN IT TOWARDS A CROWD OF 194 OTHER PEOPLE. CANNOT WIN.
 
2013-04-05 10:36:25 AM  

I'm no expert but...: orclover: FTFY, Dont use that word except for its intended purpose. If all we did was "decimate" their tanks and planes then it would be a laughably ineffective battle.

Is that some sort of pet peeve????


Yea it is and its pointless.  As has been proven above the english language has been shiat on so much that original definitions are long forgotten.  But nobody really gives a fark right?
 
2013-04-05 10:36:26 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: wow! Thanks. I would have guessed we were number one (based on spending). I also guessed that Russia was in the top 5. Though the article says that SK has 655,000 (active)  not 1.24M Anyways, thanks.


These numbers are all counting reserves, and this is just personnel (doesn't count hardware, tech, logistics, etc).

Another site, Global Firepower, ranks countries taking all that sort of stuff into account.
 
2013-04-05 10:37:18 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: wow! Thanks. I would have guessed we were number one (based on spending). I also guessed that Russia was in the top 5. Though the article says that SK has 655,000 (active)  not 1.24M Anyways, thanks.


Anybody can arm a million soldiers with rifles and say they have the world's biggest army. That says nothing about the relative strengths of each army.
 
2013-04-05 10:38:06 AM  
Best thing to do is air-drop food as far away from the leadership as possible.  Let the soldiers and the small villages be the ones who get fark-tons of food from the US and allies...

Make it interesting.  Spike it with viagra.

That would keep them occupied for a while.  Hopefully not over 4 hours at a stretch.. :)
 
2013-04-05 10:39:00 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Has anyone bothered to interview his former schoolmates from that private school he attended?


I did. Oddly enough he didn't mention who he was at school, so no one knew who he was while he was there.

The interviews went something like this:

Some dude: "What, that fat kid? Head of North Korea? I remember taking a huge dump once. He came in and complained about the smell. I turned him upside down and gave him a swirly before I flushed."

Some chick: "I lost a bet once and had to get him to take his pants off in front of me. For a second there, I thought he was a fat lesbian chick. Seriously... I couldn't find his dick. Then my sorority sisters came in and we all laughed and pointed at his tiny manhood. What is he up to these days?"

Some teacher: "If there was even one kid I thought I'd gotten through to, it was him. I showed him hours and hours of pictures from the Holocaust, videos of KKK members committing atrocities, videos of voter suppression  and videos of media suppression. I think he finally got it. Anyway, what's he up to these days?"
 
2013-04-05 10:40:50 AM  
He's a spoiled, crazy, chubby, stupid, harmless, boring little egomaniac who is being used as a paper tiger by news magazines, websites and governments to get attention and scare people. There, now you don't have to RTFA.
 
2013-04-05 10:41:00 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: The Bestest: Uchiha_Cycliste: ooh! India?

India

Per Global Security:

1 China 1,600,000
2 South Korea 1,240,000
3 United States 1,125,000
4 India 1,120,000
5 North Korea 1,000,000
6 Israel 633,000
7 Pakistan 550,000
8 Russia 415,000
9 Vietnam 410,000
10 Turkey 400,000

wow! Thanks. I would have guessed we were number one (based on spending). I also guessed that Russia was in the top 5. Though the article says that SK has 655,000 (active)  not 1.24M Anyways, thanks.


Nah, we don't need as many troops since we've got the biggest bombs and awesome war machines.  An invasion of North Korea might require a draft.
 
2013-04-05 10:43:31 AM  
That article was strangely informative.  You typically don't see anything that calm in American journ-

hindustantimes.com

-ah.
 
2013-04-05 10:45:38 AM  
It may even be that NK feels like there is nothing to lose by going into full war-mode...  Do nothing and the people are dying of starvation and malnutrition.  Go to war, and at least they have the illusion of being occupied for the good of the country.

It's more likely to happen than we would like to believe.

Stupid gets trumped by desperation.
 
2013-04-05 10:45:52 AM  

metallion: Best thing to do is air-drop food as far away from the leadership as possible.  Let the soldiers and the small villages be the ones who get fark-tons of food from the US and allies...

Make it interesting.  Spike it with viagra.

That would keep them occupied for a while.  Hopefully not over 4 hours at a stretch.. :)


Air drop some hard liquor. Since the country is full of spineless followers maybe giving them some 'liquid courage' will allow them to shake off this little twat. Eh... but then they'll be the free world's problem; on second thought just let them rot.
 
2013-04-05 10:46:52 AM  

orclover: I'm no expert but...: orclover: FTFY, Dont use that word except for its intended purpose. If all we did was "decimate" their tanks and planes then it would be a laughably ineffective battle.

Is that some sort of pet peeve????

Yea it is and its pointless.  As has been proven above the english language has been shiat on so much that original definitions are long forgotten.  But nobody really gives a fark right?


Ok, decimate/decimation as in the Roman was a military punishment where 1 in 10 soldiers was killed by colleagues and a quick look at the OED shows that decimatation was a tithe during Cromwells era but apart from that decimate/decimation has for 200 years plus meant to destroy or kill a large proportion of something. I'm just wondering what your peeve is then?
 
2013-04-05 10:47:37 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: WRT their artillery, a lot of their positions are fixed, and are in fact viewable on Google Earth (so you know the US military knows where they are too). I don't expect that those fixed positions would last very long either---it's just a matter of us not running out of ammo to shoot at them, but between attack planes/helos, drones, cruise missiles, etc., I imagine we could silence most of their artillery reasonably fast.


We would be very unlikely to destroy enough of that artillery fast enough to keep them from devastating Seoul and anything else close to the border.  Many of those fixed positions are in reinforced concrete revetments.  Counter battery may have to hit them a dozen times to knock them out.  Aircraft may be required to destroy many of them.

Not a problem when dealing with a few hundred, but we're talking tens of thousands.  Some estimates put the total at 50,000, with 5,000 hardened tubes within range of Seoul.  Even if you can take out the '1% per hour' that is claimed by the South Korean military, that still results in the total destruction of Seoul.

Just consider the 5,000 Artillery tubes pointed at Seoul.  Firing just 4 times per minute (a low figure), that puts 20,000 explosions into a city of 10 1/2 million within the FIRST MINUTE.   Within the first hour, 1.2 million HE and incendiary shells go into that thriving metropolis.  Yes, there will be a high dud and miss rate, but even if the duds and misses comprise 90% of the shells, Seoul will still be farked.

That's the reason we haven't knocked these idiot's blocks off already.  Because the south put their capital in the wrong damn place.
 
2013-04-05 10:53:23 AM  
I think that Ahmadinejad lost the World Championship of Crazy to Fat Kim this year. He has got to be soooooo pissed.
 
2013-04-05 10:55:05 AM  

Slartibartfaster: HMS_Blinkin: Which is exactly what the US is doing right now

flying the B2 was a juvenile move



Says the guy without any B-2's.......
 
2013-04-05 10:55:20 AM  

Carn: Uchiha_Cycliste: The Bestest: Uchiha_Cycliste: ooh! India?

India

Per Global Security:

1 China 1,600,000
2 South Korea 1,240,000
3 United States 1,125,000
4 India 1,120,000
5 North Korea 1,000,000
6 Israel 633,000
7 Pakistan 550,000
8 Russia 415,000
9 Vietnam 410,000
10 Turkey 400,000

wow! Thanks. I would have guessed we were number one (based on spending). I also guessed that Russia was in the top 5. Though the article says that SK has 655,000 (active)  not 1.24M Anyways, thanks.

Nah, we don't need as many troops since we've got the biggest bombs and awesome war machines.  An invasion of North Korea might require a draft.


Drafts are illegal now. -2/10
 
2013-04-05 10:57:58 AM  

RandomRandom: We would be very unlikely to destroy enough of that artillery fast enough to keep them from devastating Seoul and anything else close to the border.  Many of those fixed positions are in reinforced concrete revetments.  Counter battery may have to hit them a dozen times to knock them out.  Aircraft may be required to destroy many of them.

Not a problem when dealing with a few hundred, but we're talking tens of thousands.  Some estimates put the total at 50,000, with 5,000 hardened tubes within range of Seoul.  Even if you can take out the '1% per hour' that is claimed by the South Korean military, that still results in the total destruction of Seoul.

Just consider the 5,000 Artillery tubes pointed at Seoul.  Firing just 4 times per minute (a low figure), that puts 20,000 explosions into a city of 10 1/2 million within the FIRST MINUTE.   Within the first hour, 1.2 million HE and incendiary shells go into that thriving metropolis.  Yes, there will be a high dud and miss rate, but even if the duds and misses comprise 90% of the shells, Seoul will still be farked.

That's the reason we haven't knocked these idiot's blocks off already.  Because the south put their capital in the wrong damn place.


That's actually a pretty common misconception.  The vast majority of NK guns can't actually reach quite that far, and most of the artillery positions on the NK side of the DMZ are either out of range or too small for the big guns that are needed to hit Seoul.

Google "Bluffer's Guide North Korea Strikes," it's a fascinating rundown of NK positions based on Google Earth image analysis.  I'll quote a relevant part though:

"Contrary to popular belief, these [170 mm Koksan guns] are the only North Korean artillery guns (or MRLS for that matter!) which can reach central Seoul from behind the North Korean Border. Although the system is likely to be employed in a regular mobile artillery manner, they would be rather exposed if deployed sufficiently close to the border to make such a bombardment. There are only 17 HARTS (hardened Artillery Sites, see later) within 55km of central Seoul. "

So, the US just has to focus on a relatively manageable number of artillery locations to protect Seoul.  The rest will take longer to be dealt with, obviously, but are not in such a position to do as much damage.
 
2013-04-05 10:58:08 AM  

ransack.: Drafts are illegal now. -2/10


Ugh. Well I hope they have bottles. I'm NOT drinking out of a can.
 
2013-04-05 10:58:36 AM  

ransack.: Carn: Uchiha_Cycliste: The Bestest: Uchiha_Cycliste: ooh! India?

India

Per Global Security:

1 China 1,600,000
2 South Korea 1,240,000
3 United States 1,125,000
4 India 1,120,000
5 North Korea 1,000,000
6 Israel 633,000
7 Pakistan 550,000
8 Russia 415,000
9 Vietnam 410,000
10 Turkey 400,000

wow! Thanks. I would have guessed we were number one (based on spending). I also guessed that Russia was in the top 5. Though the article says that SK has 655,000 (active)  not 1.24M Anyways, thanks.

Nah, we don't need as many troops since we've got the biggest bombs and awesome war machines.  An invasion of North Korea might require a draft.

Drafts are illegal now. -2/10


what do you mean, illegal?
Are you saying if we instituted one, it would be against our laws?
 
2013-04-05 10:59:28 AM  

I'm no expert but...: orclover: I'm no expert but...: orclover: FTFY, Dont use that word except for its intended purpose. If all we did was "decimate" their tanks and planes then it would be a laughably ineffective battle.

Is that some sort of pet peeve????

Yea it is and its pointless.  As has been proven above the english language has been shiat on so much that original definitions are long forgotten.  But nobody really gives a fark right?

Ok, decimate/decimation as in the Roman was a military punishment where 1 in 10 soldiers was killed by colleagues and a quick look at the OED shows that decimatation was a tithe during Cromwells era but apart from that decimate/decimation has for 200 years plus meant to destroy or kill a large proportion of something. I'm just wondering what your peeve is then?


The literal meaning is to reduce something to 9/10 the size. This would be a horribly embarrassing outcome of a United States attacking North Korea scenario.
 
2013-04-05 10:59:34 AM  

RandomRandom: HMS_Blinkin:

That's the reason we haven't knocked these idiot's blocks off already.  Because the south put their capital in the wrong damn place.


THIS. We should have never allowed the 59th Parallel (or whatever damn Parallel it is)  to be the final Border. Should have pushed inland 50 Miles further before we signed the armistice in '53.

Of course, its easy to say that looking back 60 years....who knew at the time?
 
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  4. Click here to submit a link.

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