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(Some Guy)   Graphical representation of US income distribution. Get your browser ready for a 4.9 mile high chart   (taxanalysts.com) divider line 273
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2013-04-05 05:35:48 AM
O.M.F.G

/that's wicked!
 
2013-04-05 05:57:16 AM
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-04-05 06:13:37 AM
Every day there's a new article about how much it sucks to be poor, and yet you people continue to be poor. What is it you're not understanding?
 
2013-04-05 06:37:16 AM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: [imgs.xkcd.com image 508x400]


Unfortunately the average adult does not comprehend logarithmic math; they need a visual or straight number comparison.
 
2013-04-05 08:08:10 AM
When it trickles down its going to feel like a golden shower.
 
2013-04-05 08:16:34 AM
Oh, oh, them are fighting words that will get our resident Fark non-republicans-but-libertarians going:

"Those at the top are pulling away from everyone else not because of hard work, but the shift of income from labor to capital and changes in federal income, gift, and estate tax rules"

It's all BS anyway; money is free speech, it is labor, and it is a shower.
 
2013-04-05 09:51:05 AM

johnryan51: When it trickles down its going to feel like a golden shower.


More like a chocolate rain.
 
2013-04-05 10:02:26 AM
That graph was terrible.
 
2013-04-05 10:40:42 AM
Subby, you ignorant slut, wealth  ≠ income.
 
2013-04-05 10:41:37 AM

rumpelstiltskin: What is it you're not understanding?


Labyrinthine tax law, for one.
 
2013-04-05 10:41:45 AM
Well clearly we need to cut Social Security so Wall Street can skim some more money off of people's retirement accounts.

It's the only way.
 
2013-04-05 10:42:18 AM

ktybear: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [imgs.xkcd.com image 508x400]

Unfortunately the average adult does not comprehend logarithmic math; they need a visual or straight number comparison.


Aye, and that's a shame. Log graphs are cool.

/that straight line? It does not mean, what you think it means.

I am a little sick of these though. I get it. The rich are REALLY FARKING RICH, and the rest of us got jack all. Can we do something about it already?
 
2013-04-05 10:44:23 AM
I agree. Taxes should be levied on wealth and should be increased on those making $100,000+ a year.
 
2013-04-05 10:45:08 AM

Peki: ktybear: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [imgs.xkcd.com image 508x400]

Unfortunately the average adult does not comprehend logarithmic math; they need a visual or straight number comparison.

Aye, and that's a shame. Log graphs are cool.

/that straight line? It does not mean, what you think it means.

I am a little sick of these though. I get it. The rich are REALLY FARKING RICH, and the rest of us got jack all. Can we do something about it already?


No.
 
2013-04-05 10:45:54 AM

Babwa Wawa: Subby, you ignorant slut, wealth  ≠ income.


Wealth distribution is even worse.
 
2013-04-05 10:46:29 AM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: [imgs.xkcd.com image 508x400]


dev.epsilonium.com

That strip always bothers me.  I beg to differ.  Not using a log/log scale would make my life difficult.
/using non-adjustable, simplistic breaker for reference.
 
2013-04-05 10:48:47 AM

Peki: ktybear: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [imgs.xkcd.com image 508x400]

Unfortunately the average adult does not comprehend logarithmic math; they need a visual or straight number comparison.

Aye, and that's a shame. Log graphs are cool.

/that straight line? It does not mean, what you think it means.

I am a little sick of these though. I get it. The rich are REALLY FARKING RICH, and the rest of us got jack all. Can we do something about it already?


Nope.  You'll need to have a few more people starve, gas at 6, maybe 8 dollars a gallon, and more labor strikes.
 
2013-04-05 10:49:07 AM
That whole article is obviously a lie. There are no rich people in this country anymore because the government stole all of their money and gave it to Laqui$ha so she could buy iPhones and rims and gold teef.
 
2013-04-05 10:49:39 AM
Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".

In my book the big issue is that people see those in the top 10% and think "wow, you are soooo rich", but reality is that the top 5% and next 50% aren't too far off. Sure life is much tougher at 30k than 100k, but that difference pales in comparison to the guy making 2 million. Those between maybe the top 5% and top 20% are the ones that get squeeze the most in terms of effective tax rate, above that you are sitting pretty.  Class warefare 101, convince the poor that those with a little bit of wealth are the bad guys, keeping the poor off your backs and the lite wealth folks from entering your group.

/top 9 or maybe 8%er here, just calculated my taxes and I'm getting the ol' Stubenville 1-2.
 
2013-04-05 10:49:47 AM

MBP2112: Peki: ktybear: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [imgs.xkcd.com image 508x400]

Unfortunately the average adult does not comprehend logarithmic math; they need a visual or straight number comparison.

Aye, and that's a shame. Log graphs are cool.

/that straight line? It does not mean, what you think it means.

I am a little sick of these though. I get it. The rich are REALLY FARKING RICH, and the rest of us got jack all. Can we do something about it already?

No.


See, what's funny about this is that the rich can't disagree and reschedule when we do something about it. The guillotines won't be manned by them, after all.
 
2013-04-05 10:50:09 AM
four. point. nine. miles.
 
2013-04-05 10:50:50 AM
I just think about how amazingly more productive I am now than someone working 50 years ago.  I've got computerized everything to maximize my throughput and don't require a legion of assistants to get anything done.  But I make basically 49 more real dollars?

Those assholes at the top have figured it out.  If you have the capital, you can siphon off all the gains due to new technology and hard workers.  As long as you do it slowly we'll never find out.  And here we are, the majority of us clawing at each other in the rat race while the ultra-mega-wealthy can't even figure out what to DO with their money.

Somedays I feel like if Wall St. just fell Under a Dome Stephen King style we'd all be better off.
 
2013-04-05 10:51:07 AM
I'm hungry.
 
2013-04-05 10:51:17 AM
They say music is the food of love,
Let's see if you're hungry enough!
Take a bit, take another, just like a good boy would.
Get a sweet thing on the side,
Home cooking, homicide,
Side order, could be your daughter,
Finger-lickin' good!

Come on, baby, and eat the rich!
Put the bite on that son of a biatch!
Don't mess up, don't you give me no switch,
Come on, baby, and eat the rich!

Sittin' down at a restaurant,
Tell the waiter just what you want.
Is that meat you wanted to eat?
How would you ever know?
Hash browns and bacon strips,
I love the way that you lick your lips,
No fooling, I can see you drooling,
Feel the hunger grow!

Come on, baby, and eat the rich!
Put the bite on that son of a biatch!
Don't you mess up, don't you give me no switch,
Come on, baby, and eat the rich,
Come on, baby, and eat the rich,
Come on, honey, here's your supper,
Come on, baby, bite that sucker!
 
2013-04-05 10:53:21 AM
"This one goes up to 4.9 miles."

"Why not just make the one on the left smaller?"

"But this one goes up to 4.9 miles."
 
2013-04-05 10:53:48 AM
Even noting the disparity is class warfare and a dastardly attack on the oppressed, suffering wealthy. You should all be ashamed.
 
2013-04-05 10:53:59 AM
But but but they are job creators. Oh fark it, there is no defense.
 
2013-04-05 10:54:09 AM

Esc7: Those assholes at the top have figured it out.  If you have the capital, you can siphon off all the gains due to new technology and hard workers.


It's Rentier Capitalism. It's a new form of Landed Gentry, sucking the productivity out of the population through rent. It's just that these people own capital instead of land. Not that big a difference.
 
2013-04-05 10:54:14 AM

nocturnal001: Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".



Yes. You got a problem with that?
 
2013-04-05 10:54:41 AM

Esc7: Somedays I feel like if Wall St. just fell Under a Dome Stephen King style we'd all be better off.


They said the same thing about Springfield.
 
2013-04-05 10:55:13 AM

Epoch_Zero: MBP2112: Peki: ktybear: DammitIForgotMyLogin: [imgs.xkcd.com image 508x400]

Unfortunately the average adult does not comprehend logarithmic math; they need a visual or straight number comparison.

Aye, and that's a shame. Log graphs are cool.

/that straight line? It does not mean, what you think it means.

I am a little sick of these though. I get it. The rich are REALLY FARKING RICH, and the rest of us got jack all. Can we do something about it already?

No.

See, what's funny about this is that the rich can't disagree and reschedule when we do something about it. The guillotines won't be manned by them, after all.


I'm only partly joking when I say I worry about this sort of thing happening.  What pisses me off is that my head will likely be up there with them, even though I don't make dick compared to the real high earners.
 
2013-04-05 10:56:14 AM
He received the Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of tax policy while at The New York Times. He now teaches at Syracuse University College of Law and is the author of three books about taxes -- Free Lunch, Perfectly Legal, and The Fine Print.

He is....the most boring man in the world.

www.taxanalysts.com

Stay wonky, my friends.
 
2013-04-05 10:57:08 AM

Wendy's Chili: Esc7: Somedays I feel like if Wall St. just fell Under a Dome Stephen King style we'd all be better off.

They said the same thing about Springfield.



And if those jerks hadn't ruined the plan, we'd have a New Grand Canyon.

*gets hair touseled by Tom Hanks*
 
2013-04-05 10:57:34 AM

give me doughnuts: nocturnal001: Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".


Yes. You got a problem with that?


Stealing is wrong.
 
2013-04-05 10:58:09 AM
When I get laid off this fall, I'm starting my own business. I'm specializing in a new, niche product which has huge growth potential.

preview.turbosquid.com

Anybody want to preorder?
 
2013-04-05 10:58:23 AM
Magnificence!!

F*CKING LONG, INNIT?
 
2013-04-05 10:58:42 AM
Happy Friday!

Final Four starts tomorrow!

Wooooooooo!  Weeeeeeekend!

/pukes
 
2013-04-05 11:00:03 AM

ManRay: give me doughnuts: nocturnal001: Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".


Yes. You got a problem with that?

Stealing is wrong.


Fine. We'll call it "taxes" and then it is not only legal, but a civic duty.
 
MFK
2013-04-05 11:00:05 AM

ManRay: give me doughnuts: nocturnal001: Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".


Yes. You got a problem with that?

Stealing is wrong.

the 1% don't seem to have a problem with it.
 
2013-04-05 11:01:39 AM

vernonFL: He received the Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of tax policy while at The New York Times. He now teaches at Syracuse University College of Law and is the author of three books about taxes -- Free Lunch, Perfectly Legal, and The Fine Print.

He is....the most boring man in the world.

[www.taxanalysts.com image 240x300]

Stay wonky, my friends.


LOL'd hard.  Well done sir.
 
2013-04-05 11:02:20 AM

DamnYankees: Babwa Wawa: Subby, you ignorant slut, wealth  ≠ income.

Wealth distribution is even worse.


I know.  That's one reason  hate to see them conflated.  The other is that when people use wealth distribution graphs to support an income tax reform argument, the results are distorted.  Our tax reform needs estate and cap gains reform as well income tax reform.
 
2013-04-05 11:02:31 AM

nocturnal001: I'm only partly joking when I say I worry about this sort of thing happening.  What pisses me off is that my head will likely be up there with them, even though I don't make dick compared to the real high earners.


You must realize that you are using the word "earn". There is no single job on the planet, outside of possibly a single human personally flying all the nukes off of the planet never to return, that could possibly earn millions of dollars a year.
 
2013-04-05 11:03:32 AM

ManRay: give me doughnuts: nocturnal001: Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".


Yes. You got a problem with that?

Stealing is wrong.


Not independent of context it isn't.
 
2013-04-05 11:05:20 AM
Ponder that last fact for a moment -- the top 1 percent of the top 1 percent, those making at least $7.97 million in 2011, enjoyed 39 percent of all the income gains in America. In a nation of 158.4 million households, just 15,837 of them received 39 cents out of every dollar of increased income.

And there are still other quite poor folks who will say that the system is not broken.

Sigh.
 
2013-04-05 11:07:13 AM

give me doughnuts: nocturnal001: Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".


Yes. You got a problem with that?


Sure do!  Recognizing an issue is not the same as promoting a specific course of action.
 
2013-04-05 11:08:31 AM

nocturnal001: give me doughnuts: nocturnal001: Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".


Yes. You got a problem with that?

Sure do!  Recognizing an issue is not the same as promoting a specific course of action.


What course of action do you propose?
 
2013-04-05 11:09:33 AM
Are the top 1% of earners in this country working  that much harder than the top 1% were in 1966? No? Then why are they earning so much more money?

For those of you who say that we're just jealous of those who have made their wealth through hard work, I respond simply: plenty of people work hard, most of them don't make that much money. The wealthy have systematically used their wealth to erect barriers to entry for the less wealthy - not because they don't want others to succeed, but because they want to make sure they keep as much of the money for themselves as possible.

The motivation for the rich to do this is understandable, but when they start using their influence to alter the laws, regulations, and institutions of the country - laws, regulations and institutions that are supposed to be fair - that's when things need to be stopped. One of the ways to stop this is to tax them more, another way is structural reform of the legal and regulatory framework.
 
2013-04-05 11:10:35 AM

trickymoo: Ponder that last fact for a moment -- the top 1 percent of the top 1 percent, those making at least $7.97 million in 2011, enjoyed 39 percent of all the income gains in America. In a nation of 158.4 million households, just 15,837 of them received 39 cents out of every dollar of increased income.

And there are still other quite poor folks who will say that the system is not broken.

Sigh.


Technically, it isn't broken at all. It is designed to screw the poor and does it quite well.
 
2013-04-05 11:11:47 AM

Lord Dimwit: Are the top 1% of earners in this country working  that much harder than the top 1% were in 1966? No? Then why are they earning so much more money?

For those of you who say that we're just jealous of those who have made their wealth through hard work, I respond simply: plenty of people work hard, most of them don't make that much money. The wealthy have systematically used their wealth to erect barriers to entry for the less wealthy - not because they don't want others to succeed, but because they want to make sure they keep as much of the money for themselves as possible.

The motivation for the rich to do this is understandable, but when they start using their influence to alter the laws, regulations, and institutions of the country - laws, regulations and institutions that are supposed to be fair - that's when things need to be stopped. One of the ways to stop this is to tax them more, another way is structural reform of the legal and regulatory framework.


But that would be class warfare!

i48.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-05 11:14:12 AM

ManRay: give me doughnuts: nocturnal001: Ugly graph.

Sadly, many people will respond with concern regarding the wealth distribution with "well so what, you want to steal money from the wealthy?".


Yes. You got a problem with that?

Stealing is wrong.


Tell that to the millions of people world wide that are under-employed.  Their wages have been subjected to theft since the dawn of capitalism, all in the name of profits.
 
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