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(CNN)   Porsche unveils a $99,000 plug-in hybrid. It combines the style and luxury of Porsche along with the road handling and speed previously only found in a golf cart   (money.cnn.com) divider line 44
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2013-04-05 09:38:04 AM
what is this headline even supposed to mean
 
2013-04-05 10:21:23 AM
Screw the batteries, a four-door Porsche?

Probably automatic too.
 
2013-04-05 10:26:07 AM
Subby doesn't know much about electric cars, does he?
 
2013-04-05 10:33:18 AM
Who besides celebrities and CEOs can afford a $100,000 car?
 
2013-04-05 10:34:07 AM

gopher321: Screw the batteries, a four-door Porsche?

Probably automatic too.


www.businessweek.com

/ ugly farkers
 
2013-04-05 10:39:58 AM
Bobby Cobb unavailable for comment.
 
2013-04-05 10:42:19 AM

gopher321: Screw the batteries, a four-door Porsche?

Probably automatic too.


The Panamera has been around for a long time.  And the SUV (Cayenne or something?) is way worse IMO.
 
2013-04-05 10:43:44 AM
The Panamera looks ok from the front, but from any other angle it looks like a huge-assed Carrera. Top Gear said it handled well, but it's well suited for those blessed with sight. Also, damned expensive.

I'll gladly take the prototype off their hands for $5 cash money.
 
2013-04-05 10:44:04 AM
With a 95 horsepower electric motor in addition to 3.0-liter V6 gasoline engine, the Panamera E-Hybrid will have a maximum power output of 415 horsepower. It will have an all-electric driving range of about 20 miles on a full charge, which will power it for about two-and-a-half hours, according to Porsche.


20 mile range?  Pretty crappy for a touring car.
 
2013-04-05 10:45:23 AM
What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?
 
2013-04-05 10:46:41 AM
For a 100k I could buy a Tesla model s and something else and have a much better car.
 
2013-04-05 10:47:11 AM

StrikitRich: Pretty crappy for a touring car.


That would be important if anybody who bought cars like this actually took them long-distance touring instead of just driving them back and forth to work.
 
2013-04-05 10:48:30 AM
Subby needs to be reminded that electric doesn't always mean slow.
 
2013-04-05 10:50:28 AM

Mad_Radhu: Subby needs to be reminded that electric doesn't always mean slow.


No, but in this case it totally does.
 
2013-04-05 10:52:01 AM

StrikitRich: With a 95 horsepower electric motor in addition to 3.0-liter V6 gasoline engine, the Panamera E-Hybrid will have a maximum power output of 415 horsepower. It will have an all-electric driving range of about 20 miles on a full charge, which will power it for about two-and-a-half hours, according to Porsche.


20 mile range?  Pretty crappy for a touring car.


20 miles on battery only. Assuming you have some cash leftover, you can always put some gasoline in.
 
2013-04-05 10:54:57 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: StrikitRich: With a 95 horsepower electric motor in addition to 3.0-liter V6 gasoline engine, the Panamera E-Hybrid will have a maximum power output of 415 horsepower. It will have an all-electric driving range of about 20 miles on a full charge, which will power it for about two-and-a-half hours, according to Porsche.


20 mile range?  Pretty crappy for a touring car.

20 miles on battery only. Assuming you have some cash leftover, you can always put some gasoline in.


I suspect all-electric stats would be better if they took the combustion engine out.
 
2013-04-05 11:05:26 AM
so...a hybrid for those with a small penis.
 
2013-04-05 11:05:33 AM

skozlaw: / ugly farkers

 
2013-04-05 11:10:24 AM
"It will have an all-electric driving range of about 20 miles on a full charge, which will power it for about two-and-a-half hours, according to Porsche."

2.5 hours to go 20 miles is 8 miles an hour.  Since the top speed of the car is just over 80 miles an hour (electric), I think they dropped a zero.
 
2013-04-05 11:11:07 AM

The_Sponge: What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?


I'm guessing the answer is that the Porcupine has the pricks on the outside?
 
2013-04-05 11:18:13 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: StrikitRich: With a 95 horsepower electric motor in addition to 3.0-liter V6 gasoline engine, the Panamera E-Hybrid will have a maximum power output of 415 horsepower. It will have an all-electric driving range of about 20 miles on a full charge, which will power it for about two-and-a-half hours, according to Porsche.


20 mile range?  Pretty crappy for a touring car.

20 miles on battery only. Assuming you have some cash leftover, you can always put some gasoline in.


Kind of my point?  Why bother paying for the hybrid if the gas only model is cheaper.
 
2013-04-05 11:21:35 AM

Gunderson: The_Sponge: What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?

I'm guessing the answer is that the Porcupine has the pricks on the outside?



We have a winner!

/Never met a Porsche owner I liked.
//Have met BMW and Corvette owners that were cool, though.
 
2013-04-05 11:42:19 AM
 
2013-04-05 12:14:25 PM
For that money I can get a Tesla.
 
2013-04-05 12:46:58 PM

Jackson Herring: what is this headline even supposed to mean


Means subby is all butt hurt because the KIA he drives is a p.o.s. and he can't scrape together enough cash to fix his ride so it will pass emissions.
Take that to mean you write stupid headlines subby.
 
2013-04-05 01:19:30 PM

Dragonflew: "It will have an all-electric driving range of about 20 miles on a full charge, which will power it for about two-and-a-half hours, according to Porsche."

2.5 hours to go 20 miles is 8 miles an hour.  Since the top speed of the car is just over 80 miles an hour (electric), I think they dropped a zero.


Or it acually will provide the driving experience of a golf cart.
 
2013-04-05 01:31:37 PM

Dragonflew: "It will have an all-electric driving range of about 20 miles on a full charge, which will power it for about two-and-a-half hours, according to Porsche."

2.5 hours to go 20 miles is 8 miles an hour.  Since the top speed of the car is just over 80 miles an hour (electric), I think they dropped a zero.


I think CNN mis-wrote. I bet it's 2 1/2 hours to fully charge the car, which can then travel 20 miles on the charge. Saying a full charge will power it for 2.5 hours makes no sense.
 
2013-04-05 01:34:05 PM
"Using all available power, it will be able to go from zero to 60 miles per hour in 5.2 seconds with a top speed of 167 mph. "

Do 18 holes in 26 minutes or less.
 
2013-04-05 01:41:32 PM

skozlaw: gopher321: Screw the batteries, a four-door Porsche?

Probably automatic too.

[www.businessweek.com image 560x310]

/ ugly farkers


My definition of "more money than sense:" Drives a Panamera.

Good gawd those are a visual blight.
 
2013-04-05 01:49:32 PM

Supes: I think CNN mis-wrote. I bet it's 2 1/2 hours to fully charge the car, which can then travel 20 miles on the charge. Saying a full charge will power it for 2.5 hours makes no sense.


That would make more sense, but still... 2.5 hours charge for a 15 minute ride is still ridiculous.  My e-bike has more range.
 
2013-04-05 02:06:12 PM

Dragonflew: Supes: I think CNN mis-wrote. I bet it's 2 1/2 hours to fully charge the car, which can then travel 20 miles on the charge. Saying a full charge will power it for 2.5 hours makes no sense.

That would make more sense, but still... 2.5 hours charge for a 15 minute ride is still ridiculous.  My e-bike has more range.


Your e-bike also isn't pushing 2-tons of car at freeway speeds. Ratchet speed of your bike up to 60mph and I'm sure you'll see the range plummet to about a quarter mile.

The Porsche's battery is 9.4 kWh - which means it gives approximately ~2.12 miles per kWh of range.

In comparison, my Nissan Leaf does between 3.2 and 4.0 miles per kWh (depending on temperature and conditions). Considering it also has a 0-60 time that's more than double, those range numbers sounds about right.
 
2013-04-05 02:11:15 PM

vernonFL: Who besides celebrities and CEOs can afford a $100,000 car?


You'd be surprised who'd loan you 100k.  It's a stupid idea though, unless you're a celebrity or a CEO.
 
2013-04-05 02:13:17 PM
The Wiki said that the Leaf can do 70 miles at 55mph with the A/C on.  The "20 mile" range of the Porsche did not specify at what speed, but seems substantially lower than the Leaf.  For the price one will pay for a Porsche, I thought the range might be a bit more than a one-way trip across town.
 
2013-04-05 02:49:05 PM
 Using all available power, it will be able to go from zero to 60 miles per hour in 5.2 seconds with a top speed of 167 mph.

That is some f*cking golf cart.
 
2013-04-05 02:52:15 PM

The_Sponge: Gunderson: The_Sponge: What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?

I'm guessing the answer is that the Porcupine has the pricks on the outside?


We have a winner!

/Never met a Porsche owner I liked.
//Have met BMW and Corvette owners that were cool, though.


Oh look, a snob.
I hope I drink the kind of beer you approve of.
 
2013-04-05 03:47:08 PM

The Muthaship: That is some f*cking golf cart.


and where are you going to drive it? Not on a track, because a sports car will beat it on handling.
 
2013-04-05 03:49:49 PM

farkeruk: The Muthaship: That is some f*cking golf cart.

and where are you going to drive it? Not on a track, because a sports car will beat it on handling.


It's not really for the track is it?  I thought it was more of a luxury sport sedan concept...for dicks.
 
2013-04-05 03:56:40 PM

The_Sponge: Gunderson: The_Sponge: What's the difference between a Porsche and a porcupine?

I'm guessing the answer is that the Porcupine has the pricks on the outside?


We have a winner!

/Never met a Porsche owner I liked.
//Have met BMW and Corvette owners that were cool, though.


I only know two people personally who own Porsches, one a brother in law, one a former co-worker.  They are both among the nicest people I've ever met.
 
2013-04-05 04:40:39 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: so...a hybrid for those with a small penis.


Yes because anyone with more money than you has a tiny penis.  Don't confuse the fact that you're a giant dick with having a big penis
 
2013-04-05 06:29:16 PM
Anyone still convinced all hybrids are slow and boring to drive should look at last years 24 Hours of Le Mans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans
 
2013-04-05 06:33:49 PM

pfhobia: Anyone still convinced all hybrids are slow and boring to drive should look at last years 24 Hours of Le Mans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans


Don't confuse subby with your facts.
 
2013-04-05 08:00:30 PM
But, golf carts do have excellent handling...
 
2013-04-05 09:29:57 PM

Dragonflew: The Wiki said that the Leaf can do 70 miles at 55mph with the A/C on.  The "20 mile" range of the Porsche did not specify at what speed, but seems substantially lower than the Leaf.  For the price one will pay for a Porsche, I thought the range might be a bit more than a one-way trip across town.


You're comparing apples and oranges. The Leaf is 100% electric. The Porsche is closer to a Chevy Volt than to a Leaf.
 
2013-04-05 09:49:31 PM

The Why Not Guy: Dragonflew: The Wiki said that the Leaf can do 70 miles at 55mph with the A/C on.  The "20 mile" range of the Porsche did not specify at what speed, but seems substantially lower than the Leaf.  For the price one will pay for a Porsche, I thought the range might be a bit more than a one-way trip across town.

You're comparing apples and oranges. The Leaf is 100% electric. The Porsche is closer to a Chevy Volt than to a Leaf.


That's a really good point, I didn't really think about that.  I imagine if the Porsche was fully electric, the numbers would be substantially different.
 
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