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2013-04-05 10:39:43 AM

Smoking GNU:You mean you like imitation chicken sculpted into wing shapes.

JackieRabbit: Highly processed chicken product?


LouDobbsAwaaaay: The day KFC replaces its chicken with "boneless" chicken-and-sawdust-slurry compressed into chicken-like shapes, is the last day I ever step foot in a KFC.


tillerman35: 2) We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away.


Kibbler:  I'm not surprised that they want to change to prefabricated chicken byproduct patties.


bmihura: It will be high fructose corn syrup and other non-edible chemicals to make it taste like chicken.



I guess you guys read another article. The one I read says, "The new offering isn't formed chicken patties but made from whole muscle."

There are plenty of reasons to be disgusted by KFC, no need to fabricate them.
 
2013-04-05 10:40:37 AM
So long as all the taste-dead morons out there keep eating wings and breasts, leaving the best parts (legs and thighs) relatively cheap... I'm okay with this. Though wings are good for stock.

KFC has sucked for years. I can't even imagine the last time I went there.

/Popeye's ftw
 
2013-04-05 10:40:44 AM
KFC is garbage.
People who think it is good have obviously never had good chicken.
 
2013-04-05 10:42:40 AM
You mean, KFC is now going "ground up, mechanically-separated, shaped chicken meat patties".
 
2013-04-05 10:46:35 AM

PizzaJedi81: TuteTibiImperes: Poultry bones freak me out

[old.he-man.org image 191x200]

Agrees.

/Fark obscurity check.


By the powers of Greyskull that was a crappy movie.
 
2013-04-05 10:49:27 AM
Begoggle

Stop liking what I like jpg.
 
2013-04-05 10:52:48 AM

Altman: cajunns: So they're aiming for a certain proportion of the population (millenials) ...good luck with that colonel

Yup you're right.  The Millennials (of which I am one) are a very fickle generation.  Getting us to buy anything consistently usually ends in failure and bankruptcy.


What if they included a participation trophy with every meal?
 
2013-04-05 10:53:06 AM
Wait, so some people who aren't drunk eat at KFC? Huh...
 
2013-04-05 10:53:38 AM

Dragonflew: Smoking GNU:You mean you like imitation chicken sculpted into wing shapes.

JackieRabbit: Highly processed chicken product?

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The day KFC replaces its chicken with "boneless" chicken-and-sawdust-slurry compressed into chicken-like shapes, is the last day I ever step foot in a KFC.

tillerman35: 2) We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away.

Kibbler:  I'm not surprised that they want to change to prefabricated chicken byproduct patties.

bmihura: It will be high fructose corn syrup and other non-edible chemicals to make it taste like chicken.


I guess you guys read another article. The one I read says, "The new offering isn't formed chicken patties but made from whole muscle."

There are plenty of reasons to be disgusted by KFC, no need to fabricate them.


It's still highly processed chicken product. Already KFCs bone-in birds are treated with a large number of chemicals and this new process with introduce new ones. You are reading a marketing release posing as news and falling for it. Zaxby's has the same product model and their product sucks. Ditto on Chick-Fil-A's chicken-flavored chicken breasts, which also sucks. Bottom line: if it's served by a FF outlet, it isn't real food and hasn't been for nearly 30 years of food science manipulation.
 
2013-04-05 10:55:06 AM

TuteTibiImperes: My local KFC started serving fried chicken livers this past year, that alone has brought me there more than anything else the've done. The KFC livers are also the best deal going - a big ass box of them, enough for two meals easily, is only like $3.50.


I worked at a KFC in high school, and they had livers at that time as well, though they were off-menu.

The staff HATES YOU when you order those damn things because they smell to high heaven when you cook them and the smell will follow you home after your shift.

To this day, I can't even think of chicken livers without deep, abiding loathing - and I'm generally a HUGE fan of liver.
 
2013-04-05 10:56:10 AM

jaybeezey: You know, people used to talk fondly of the American Indians because they found a way to use every part of the animals they killed. But when big business does the same it's bad.


I'm pretty sure the natives of the day weren't placing animal parts into a centrifuge, spinning it until the congealed pieces squeeze through a sieve and then treating it ammonia.

litespeed74: How about torture free chickens?


Anyone who goes on with this shiat needs to be forced to raise chickens. We tried it, by the end of the year I was literally counting the days to slaughter those little farkers.
 
2013-04-05 10:56:59 AM
images.wikia.com

\cousin boneless approves
 
2013-04-05 10:59:54 AM

tillerman35: What they say: Customers want this.
What they mean: This will be more profitable to us.

Because:
1) We can make this crap in a factory and ship it out frozen to stores, who will only need to microwave it, thereby drastically reducing the manpower requirements.


Its not microwaved. Boneless filets are cooked exactly like bone-in chicken: raw chicken is breaded up, then deep fired.

2) We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away.

Boneless filets are exactly like the boneless filets you buy in the grocery store. They are not "parts" or processed in any way. Think chicken tenders, only bigger.

3) The leftover bits, such as bones and innards can now be sold to other firms who process them for things like gelatin, pet food, and fertilizer.

KFC doesn't own chicken farms or slaughterhouses. The producers of raw KFC chicken are the same producers that provide chicken to your local grocery stores. What they do with "extra parts" left over from the manufacturing process I have no clue...

4) We think our customers are stupid and won't realize they're being screwed.  Hell, we'll even charge them more despite the fact that the new business model will cost a mere fraction of what we were paying for product and labor.

Boneless filets are more expensive than bone-in chicken. For the same reason that boneless-skinless chicken breasts are more expensive than bone-on chicken in your grocery store: it cost more to produce.

/the more you know...
 
2013-04-05 11:00:53 AM
Boneless? Yay! Skinless? No way. And I love Original Recipe. Gonna miss it.

I'll head to BoJangles instead.

\Gimme some skiiiiiiin, baby!
 
2013-04-05 11:00:57 AM

JackieRabbit: It's still highly processed chicken product. Already KFCs bone-in birds are treated with a large number of chemicals and this new process with introduce new ones.


Never said it wasn't. It's just not ground up chicken parts.

What amuses me is the people who say they will get REAL chicken from the grocery store instead - it's the same crap.  If you want chicken that has not been processed and injected with chicken-flavoured chemicals, you raise that chicken yourself.
 
2013-04-05 11:01:05 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: jaybeezey: You know, people used to talk fondly of the American Indians because they found a way to use every part of the animals they killed. But when big business does the same it's bad.

I'm pretty sure the natives of the day weren't placing animal parts into a centrifuge, spinning it until the congealed pieces squeeze through a sieve and then treating it ammonia.


Sounds like any other sausage.
 
2013-04-05 11:03:17 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Without bones or skin? Are you kidding me? The skin on the Original Recipe chicken is delicious.


This. Done in one.
Bones and skin keep the meat moist, without them the chicken is much less tasty.  I guess Popeye's will get my business if they add another location that doesn't have the worse service I had ever seen.  I gave Popeye's an extra try because their chicken is good, but I never seen a restaurant that poorly ran.

/Hey Popeye's, your one location in Flint sucks, build another.
//In a part of town not requiring bullet proof glass at the counter.
 
2013-04-05 11:03:35 AM

tillerman35: What they say: Customers want this.
What they mean: This will be more profitable to us.

Because:
1) We can make this crap in a factory and ship it out frozen to stores, who will only need to microwave it, thereby drastically reducing the manpower requirements.
2) We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away.
3) The leftover bits, such as bones and innards can now be sold to other firms who process them for things like gelatin, pet food, and fertilizer.
4) We think our customers are stupid and won't realize they're being screwed.  Hell, we'll even charge them more despite the fact that the new business model will cost a mere fraction of what we were paying for product and labor.


Quoted for truth.
 
2013-04-05 11:04:59 AM

notmtwain: Its new ad slogan will be: "I ate the bones!"

[boxofficebuz.com image 660x330]


Awww, they're wearing the same lipstick.  How adorable.

I hit KFC twice a year.  That's about all the time I need to forget that it's overrated.  I do like the "chicken" but the sides are utter slop.
 
2013-04-05 11:05:38 AM

Netrngr: Thier pot pies are awesome though. I'll miss them.


At least at the store I used to work at, the pot pies were made in-shop using the nasty old unsold chicken at the end of the day that had been sitting around.  Theoretically, it was stored properly at safe temperatures.  Theoretically.  It was then deboned by hand by whoever got stuck with that duty.  We usually had gloves, unless we ran out. Hands were most likely washed.

Of course, they hired a staff of entirely high school students (I was a "shift supervisor" and the most senior worker on the floor most afternoons at the age of 16) so.... enjoy.

/couldn't pay me to eat a KFC pot pie.
 
2013-04-05 11:07:29 AM

lack of warmth: Bathia_Mapes: Without bones or skin? Are you kidding me? The skin on the Original Recipe chicken is delicious.

This. Done in one.
Bones and skin keep the meat moist, without them the chicken is much less tasty.  I guess Popeye's will get my business if they add another location that doesn't have the worse service I had ever seen.  I gave Popeye's an extra try because their chicken is good, but I never seen a restaurant that poorly ran.

/Hey Popeye's, your one location in Flint sucks, build another.
//In a part of town not requiring bullet proof glass at the counter.


It won't help.  I think it's company policy to be as poorly ran as possible at Popeye's.

/I used to house the cajun beans and rice til I developed a bean allergy
 
2013-04-05 11:12:29 AM

Freudian_slipknot:  the pot pies were made in-shop using the nasty old unsold chicken at the end of the day that had been sitting around.


No wonder there are no pot pies at my local KFC.  They sell those pieces to the customers.
 
2013-04-05 11:13:20 AM

sleeper2995: But what of the failure bowl and the saddness pile!!!


now you can get this mortal coil's this will end in tears played in the background as you eat for an additional $0.39.
 
2013-04-05 11:13:55 AM
"This will change the way people think about this brand."  It certainly will.  I realize corporate whores see the world in markets, units, brand IDs, flowcharts and inter-relational metrics to product units and, hey, everybody needs some sort of malarkey to make it seem as if they're doing something useful, but keep them out of the kitchen.
 
2013-04-05 11:14:03 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: April 5, 2018 - Today KFC announced the new "Chicken Squeezer" that allows customer to dispense liqufied salted chicken-flavored paste from a cake frosting tube into their own (or a friend's) gaping maw.
"Let's face it, we've been heading this way for a while now," the KFC CEO mused.


Hah!
 
2013-04-05 11:14:11 AM

Freudian_slipknot: Netrngr: Thier pot pies are awesome though. I'll miss them.

At least at the store I used to work at, the pot pies were made in-shop using the nasty old unsold chicken at the end of the day that had been sitting around.  Theoretically, it was stored properly at safe temperatures.  Theoretically.  It was then deboned by hand by whoever got stuck with that duty.  We usually had gloves, unless we ran out. Hands were most likely washed.

Of course, they hired a staff of entirely high school students (I was a "shift supervisor" and the most senior worker on the floor most afternoons at the age of 16) so.... enjoy.

/couldn't pay me to eat a KFC pot pie.


There you go sucking the joy outta my life..... welp no mo pot pies for me  ;(
 
2013-04-05 11:17:04 AM

This text is now purple: Sounds like any other sausage.


If I want to see sausage made, I'll turn on CSPAN
 
2013-04-05 11:18:08 AM
www.ghosttraveller.com
 
2013-04-05 11:21:29 AM

Freudian_slipknot: At least at the store I used to work at, the pot pies were made in-shop using the nasty old unsold chicken at the end of the day that had been sitting around. Theoretically, it was stored properly at safe temperatures. Theoretically. It was then deboned by hand by whoever got stuck with that duty. We usually had gloves, unless we ran out. Hands were most likely washed.


What an exaggerated way to say: "home made"

Yes its true: KFC pot pies use REAL chicken that was really cooked right there in the store. De-boned, by hand, just like one would do with their leftover thanksgiving turkey. Would you prefer pot pies be filled with mysterious "cubes" of sketchy "meat" made of god-knows-what?

KFC is one of the last major chain restaurants that actually makes things by hand, and yet still people complain.

Its too bad you worked at some nasty place with apparently lackadaisical cleanliness standards. Note the same could be said of any restaurant anywhere that is poorly operated.

But complaining that the chicken in KFC pot pies ins actually real de-bond chicken is silly.
 
2013-04-05 11:29:43 AM

R5D4: What an exaggerated way to say: "home made"


As someone who actually likes to cook and actually makes from-scratch pot pies at home, I still wouldn't eat one from KFC if you paid me.

At least in my home, we don't set the turkey under a shiatty heat lamp for a couple of days before we get around to dealing with deboning it.

Also, since when I cook at home, I'm the one eating it, homemade generally indicates that at least a single fark is given as to how well it's prepared and the quality of what goes into it.

Oh, and the gravy/pie crusts all come out of a Sysco box.  So it's about as homemade as the ones in your freezer section.  If the ones in your freezer section had underpaid apathetic teenagers sticking their fingers in it over and over before you bought it.

Enjoy your "homemade" pot pies.  I'll be over here not getting food poisoning.
 
2013-04-05 11:42:21 AM

URAPNIS: CheekyMonkey: Now, I don't give a shiat about this, as I don't eat fast food, but I'm really hoping that their ad campaign involves a naked and spread-eagled Clara Peller, shouting "Where's the bone?!?"

\yes, I'm aware she's dead
\\they can hologram her, just like Tupac

Speaking of Wendy's, they have this new flatbread chicken sandwich thing that looks good.
You should eat fast food.


1.  I don't agree with factory farming practices, so I choose not to eat conventionally-produced meats.
2.  If I want a chicken sandwich, I'll make it myself, and it will be far superior to some fast-food restaurant crap.
 
2013-04-05 11:48:28 AM

drxym: It would require them to remove the bones, skin, plus a substantial amount of fat and salt to convince me to eat in KFC.


"If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it?"
"Well, why don't you try more conventional fast food?"
 
2013-04-05 11:51:37 AM
How long till Chew becomes a reality?
 
2013-04-05 12:03:04 PM

White_Scarf_Syndrome: [www.pizzaboys.com image 573x282]

I don't know what a KFC is, but it sounds gross.


It's actually kind of endearing that you think liking one fast food joint more than another is something you can lord over the plebeians.
 
2013-04-05 12:07:43 PM

liam76: TuteTibiImperes: My local KFC started serving fried chicken livers this past year, that alone has brought me there more than anything else the've done. The KFC livers are also the best deal going - a big ass box of them, enough for two meals easily, is only like $3.50

Are you shiatting me?

Where do you live?



I'm in FL, and apparently some of the KFCs in the south have them, but not all.  There are two KFCs in my town, the one in the black/Mexican area of town has the livers, the one in the old-white-retirees-from-the-midwest area doesn't.
 
2013-04-05 12:12:29 PM

Rapmaster2000: Egoy3k:

1)Microwaves are very rarely used in fast food. For example there are only two items on the McDondals menu that are microwaved, the bun for the fillet of fish sandwich, and the breakfast burritos.

When I worked there 20 years ago everything was microwaved.  It goes like this.  You cook the meat and put it into a cabinet.  When the counter calls for 12 burgers, you assemble them (they stopped toasting buns around 1992) and put them into a "Q-ing Oven" aka microwave and then send them across the top of the grill.  From there they go into the bin where they sit some more.  Everything went into the Q-Ing oven except The Big Breakfast, the nuggets, and the fries.



When I worked at a McD's from 98-2000 the only thing microwaved was the burrito and the pancakes for the Big Breakfast. All buns went through a toaster. Everything else was cooked in an oven, fryer, or clam shell grill. Granted, after it was cooked it went into a warmer that could hold a few dozen burgers at a time.
Also, I hated the 3 people jackasses a day who ordered those stupid Spanish Omelette Bagels. Had to cook separate eggs just for them and they tasted worse than the usual McD's fare.
www.jacksonlocal.com
 
2013-04-05 12:20:46 PM

Freudian_slipknot: At least in my home, we don't set the turkey under a shiatty heat lamp for a couple of days before we get around to dealing with deboning it.


What KFC or for that matter what fast food restaurant has heat lamps any more? When I go for my rare trips to KFC I usually wonder if they are out killing the chicken before cooking it because it takes so damn long.

As has been asked before in this thread, there are so many true things to hate about fast food why bother making stuff up?
 
2013-04-05 12:25:01 PM
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2013-04-05 12:27:21 PM

R5D4: KFC doesn't own chicken farms or slaughterhouses. The producers of raw KFC chicken are the same producers that provide chicken to your local grocery stores. What they do with "extra parts" left over from the manufacturing process I have no clue...


My company deals with a lot of chicken ranches/feedhouses.  Chicken supply is very regional.  There's a good chance that two opposing fast food joints across the street from each other are getting chicken from the same producer.
 
2013-04-05 12:30:48 PM
This is a terrible idea. It will probably go over well, but I will never go there again. I'm not their target customer anyway. I went to KFC once in a few months. But when I did go, it was to get a big bucket of mixed. I can feed my whole family for about $20 on a day that I'm feeling lazy or whatever.
 
2013-04-05 12:31:47 PM

Egoy3k: What KFC or for that matter what fast food restaurant has heat lamps any more? When I go for my rare trips to KFC I usually wonder if they are out killing the chicken before cooking it because it takes so damn long.

As has been asked before in this thread, there are so many true things to hate about fast food why bother making stuff up?


I worked at a KFC for several years. They keep the cooked chicken under a heat lamp in the front of the restaurant and the counter workers pull pieces from that to serve.  They also have big warming ovens where they keep extra sides and any of the chicken that has been pulled from the front for being out too long to keep it at temperature.  If it's a particularly slow time at a slow store they might be cooking to order which takes 20 minutes in the pressure cookers in the back, but that's FAR from normal.  For what it's worth, the KFC down the street from me which opened last month uses that system as well.

Your random observation from the 2 times you've been in a KFC doesn't mean someone's "making things up" because their actual knowledge conflicts with your tiny bit of anecdotal supposition.
 
2013-04-05 12:37:55 PM

Freudian_slipknot: Your random observation from the 2 times you've been in a KFC doesn't mean someone's "making things up" because their actual knowledge conflicts with your tiny bit of anecdotal supposition.


My anecdotes are no less valid that yours. I have not seen an actual heat lamp in operation since I was less than 10 years old.
 
2013-04-05 12:39:31 PM

Satanic_Hamster: R5D4: KFC doesn't own chicken farms or slaughterhouses. The producers of raw KFC chicken are the same producers that provide chicken to your local grocery stores. What they do with "extra parts" left over from the manufacturing process I have no clue...

My company deals with a lot of chicken ranches/feedhouses.  Chicken supply is very regional.  There's a good chance that two opposing fast food joints across the street from each other are getting chicken from the same producer.


There's a KFC and a Popeyes literally across the street from each other not far from me.  The chicken from the KFC has much more meat per piece than the chicken from the Popeyes.

They may source from the same supplier, but I wouldn't be surprised if different chains have different requirements in terms of average weight per piece, or meat to bone ratio, or other criteria to make sure that there is some consistency in the product.
 
2013-04-05 12:40:34 PM
Render, render chicken tender.

/deep fried beak and feathers
//chicken spleen onion ring
 
2013-04-05 12:40:40 PM

Rapmaster2000: Egoy3k:

1)Microwaves are very rarely used in fast food. For example there are only two items on the McDondals menu that are microwaved, the bun for the fillet of fish sandwich, and the breakfast burritos.

When I worked there 20 years ago everything was microwaved.  It goes like this.  You cook the meat and put it into a cabinet.  When the counter calls for 12 burgers, you assemble them (they stopped toasting buns around 1992) and put them into a "Q-ing Oven" aka microwave and then send them across the top of the grill.  From there they go into the bin where they sit some more.  Everything went into the Q-Ing oven except The Big Breakfast, the nuggets, and the fries.


When i worked there in 95ish it was the same but i think they got rid of the qing ovens awhile back
 
2013-04-05 01:00:10 PM
"If it can't be held in one hand -- or a cupholder -- don't bother making it," says Christopher Muller, dean at Boston University's School of Hospitality Administration. "That's the reality of the mobile world."

fark people forever.

/join the voluntary human extinction moveent today
//i don't care about kfc, just this attitude
 
2013-04-05 01:01:53 PM

tillerman35: What they say: Customers want this.
What they mean: This will be more profitable to us.

Because:
1) We can make this crap in a factory and ship it out frozen to stores, who will only need to microwave it, thereby drastically reducing the manpower requirements.
2) We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away.
3) The leftover bits, such as bones and innards can now be sold to other firms who process them for things like gelatin, pet food, and fertilizer.
4) We think our customers are stupid and won't realize they're being screwed.  Hell, we'll even charge them more despite the fact that the new business model will cost a mere fraction of what we were paying for product and labor.


You are, frankly, an idiot.

1) There is absolutely no way to crispy fry battered chicken in a microwave without it getting soggy.
2) If you can't tell the difference between muscle tissue & mechanically separated meat, then you are nobody to be judging food to begin with.
2b) So farking what if they can provide more of what would have been wasted food? Scrapple & head cheese, which is just another way of scavenging otherwise scrap meat, are now enshrined in culinary acceptance, what the fark is the difference with MSM?  Shut your stupid face.
3) So farking what if they resell the leftovers?  It's called thinking ecologically, or should bones, heads and whatnot get thrown into a landfill instead of being repurposed and reclaimed?  Wish you pantywaist PETA-farkers would make up your got dang minds.
4) Watdafuq are you on?
 
2013-04-05 01:04:37 PM

Agarista: tillerman35: What they say: Customers want this.
What they mean: This will be more profitable to us.

Because:
1) We can make this crap in a factory and ship it out frozen to stores, who will only need to microwave it, thereby drastically reducing the manpower requirements.
2) We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away.
3) The leftover bits, such as bones and innards can now be sold to other firms who process them for things like gelatin, pet food, and fertilizer.
4) We think our customers are stupid and won't realize they're being screwed.  Hell, we'll even charge them more despite the fact that the new business model will cost a mere fraction of what we were paying for product and labor.

This :(

The bone was a good way of telling your meal came from a bird.


You're as dumb as the OP.  Skinless & Boneless does NOT equal formed chicken patty, and if you can't figure that out you need to stop eating.
 
2013-04-05 01:05:04 PM

macadamnut: [geneticsandliterature.files.wordpress.com image 300x238]


Counterpoint:
images4.wikia.nocookie.net

/double it!
 
2013-04-05 01:05:21 PM

philotech: Because it's cheaper to toss whole chickens into a meat grinder and glue them back together in fun shapes...


yea that way you don't even have to kill them first,just throw them in the grinder,
 
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