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(USA Today)   This changes everything: KFC to go boneless   (usatoday.com) divider line 242
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2013-04-05 09:15:12 AM  

tillerman35: What they say: Customers want this.
What they mean: This will be more profitable to us.

Because:
1) We can make this crap in a factory and ship it out frozen to stores, who will only need to microwave it, thereby drastically reducing the manpower requirements.
2) We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away.
3) The leftover bits, such as bones and innards can now be sold to other firms who process them for things like gelatin, pet food, and fertilizer.
4) We think our customers are stupid and won't realize they're being screwed.  Hell, we'll even charge them more despite the fact that the new business model will cost a mere fraction of what we were paying for product and labor.


THIS. Isn't this obvious people?

I feed my dog whole chickens (cut up, certain ratio of bone/organ/meat) and I am pretty familiar with the price of parts of chicken. The price of wings is ridiculous- there is like no meat but since people like to smother them in hot sauce they are the priciest part. Soon they'll find a way to make chicken backs popular and the price will skyrocket. I have always thought of liver as a bargain- organs are pretty good as a source of nutrients and they are like$ 0.70/lb here...
 
2013-04-05 09:16:19 AM  
Now, I don't give a shiat about this, as I don't eat fast food, but I'm really hoping that their ad campaign involves a naked and spread-eagled Clara Peller, shouting "Where's the bone?!?"

\yes, I'm aware she's dead
\\they can hologram her, just like Tupac
 
2013-04-05 09:17:22 AM  
"KFC introduces the Why Bother?"

Off to Lee's Chicken.
 
2013-04-05 09:18:13 AM  
It's an abomination
 
2013-04-05 09:20:14 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Now, I don't give a shiat about this, as I don't eat fast food, but I'm really hoping that their ad campaign involves a naked and spread-eagled Clara Peller, shouting "Where's the bone?!?"

\yes, I'm aware she's dead
\\they can hologram her, just like Tupac


Speaking of Wendy's, they have this new flatbread chicken sandwich thing that looks good.
You should eat fast food.
 
2013-04-05 09:21:43 AM  
KFC used to have these farking awesome boneless wings at the Flavor Station; were delicious with their bbq sauce.  They were the only reason I want to KFC really the last 15 years.  Then 5 or so years ago they canceled them for these "sauceless" boneless craps.

:(
 
2013-04-05 09:24:22 AM  
i536.photobucket.com

It was a fine summer.  I had a boy on the way, and I spent my days off in the searing 100 plus degree heat soaking in the river current, beer in hand with a close friend of mine.  We'd spend the day talking about single parenting, the ass on that guy, the ass on that girl, talking to strangers.  I won't forget that summer.

On the way, I'd stop at the gas station around the corner.  I'd usually get a corn dog for the road as I would be extremely hung over and I'd be in a hurry to get to the river.  A corn dog was perfect for driving and eating.

Then I spotted this guy.  I don't know what a gizzard is.  I eat the hell outta my Churches.  Clean those bones....am I eating gizzards?

I can't find a good photo of Eddie Izzard.
 
2013-04-05 09:25:47 AM  
What are they going to do with all that leftover chicken skin? Cause if you're not going to eat it, I'll take it. I mean, I don't want it to go to waste. So if you're sure you don't want it, I'll have it.
 
2013-04-05 09:26:05 AM  
I can't think of the last time I've been to a KFC, but I do remember the chicken to batter ratio was approaching zero.
 
2013-04-05 09:26:49 AM  

spidermilk: I feed my dog whole chickens (cut up, certain ratio of bone/organ/meat) and I am pretty familiar with the price of parts of chicken. The price of wings is ridiculous- there is like no meat but since people like to smother them in hot sauce they are the priciest part. Soon they'll find a way to make chicken backs popular and the price will skyrocket. I have always thought of liver as a bargain- organs are pretty good as a source of nutrients and they are like$ 0.70/lb here...


Funny about that. The idea of Wings was actually took off like a rocket because butchers, restaurants, etc.. had these left over parts that often were destined for stock pots.

We are often, our own worst enemy.
 
2013-04-05 09:27:59 AM  
......Or maybe this is just a ploy and their borrowing a page from Coke's playbook.  What if they're just announcing a plan to go all boneless in order to get people thinking about how much they prefer chicken on the bone. In that process, people will remind themselves of the fact that the actually enjoy fried chicken.  Then, if all goes well, there will be a significant spike in sales as people try to get in their "last" few KFC meals before the bones are gone.  In response to this outpouring of support for traditional fried chicken, they'll announce that they will now offer the new boneless meat and KFC Classic®.  They might even end up dumping the boneless after a year or two.
 
2013-04-05 09:28:14 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Egoy3k:

1)Microwaves are very rarely used in fast food. For example there are only two items on the McDondals menu that are microwaved, the bun for the fillet of fish sandwich, and the breakfast burritos.

When I worked there 20 years ago everything was microwaved.  It goes like this.  You cook the meat and put it into a cabinet.  When the counter calls for 12 burgers, you assemble them (they stopped toasting buns around 1992) and put them into a "Q-ing Oven" aka microwave and then send them across the top of the grill.  From there they go into the bin where they sit some more.  Everything went into the Q-Ing oven except The Big Breakfast, the nuggets, and the fries.


How it works now:
Cook the meat, put it into a tray, put the tray into a heated cabinet and start the corresponding timer (once the timer runs out you toss any meat remaining and cook more)
Once an order comes in take the correct bun put it in the drop through toaster and grab the correct wrapper and add toppings to the bun. Then take the meat from the tray and finish the burger.
 
2013-04-05 09:31:03 AM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: I don't know what a gizzard is.


You're pretty white, aren't you?
 
2013-04-05 09:32:38 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: liam76: drjekel_mrhyde: It has already been rumors around that they don't use real chicken in the first place and this will just enforce that idea.


If someoen is dumb enought obelieve that, none of their marketing will help.

I was like WTF when I first heard it in person, but it even has been mentioned on here by a few people.
/I think they're meaning to say the strips/tenders
They have over 4 million results on Google
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Peopel who are saying it seriously are moronr.

The urban legend is that they changed their name from "KFC" since they no longer used what could legally be called "chickens".

Googling it doesn't make it true.

http://www.snopes.com/lost/kfc.asp">http://www.snopes.com/lost/kfc.a sp

One of my brothers professors in college actually talked abotu ti not being chicken based on this BS (guy only taught one year).
 
2013-04-05 09:35:19 AM  
What makes KFC taste so good is the high pressure cookers they use to make fried chicken.  The original recipe nuggets and strips are just deep fried, so it doesn't work as well.  If they are taking large fillets and pressure cooking them, it should be pretty tasty.  although it will never replace the taste of skin-on fried chicken, it could be very, very good.  Anyhow, the skin is the worst part healthwise, as it's basically a layer of glorious, delicious fat.  Get 80-90% of the flavor, and people will adapt.

Still, I can't see them phasing out traditional bone-in fried chicken in five years.  Original recipe KFC is simply too popular and a completely unique taste experience than any other chicken.  And unlike Long John Silvers, and McDonald's french fries, it's the one thing from the past that tastes just as good today as it did in the days of cooking in real lard.
 
2013-04-05 09:39:03 AM  
Raising Canes meets all my chicken needs. My god, the sauce. I know what I'm getting for dinner tonight.
 
2013-04-05 09:39:08 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Egoy3k:

1)Microwaves are very rarely used in fast food. For example there are only two items on the McDondals menu that are microwaved, the bun for the fillet of fish sandwich, and the breakfast burritos.

When I worked there 20 years ago everything was microwaved.  It goes like this.  You cook the meat and put it into a cabinet.  When the counter calls for 12 burgers, you assemble them (they stopped toasting buns around 1992) and put them into a "Q-ing Oven" aka microwave and then send them across the top of the grill.  From there they go into the bin where they sit some more.  Everything went into the Q-Ing oven except The Big Breakfast, the nuggets, and the fries.


Things have changed since you were there.
 
2013-04-05 09:42:48 AM  

trentrockport: tillerman35: What they say: Customers want this.
What they mean: This will be more profitable to us.

Because: ...We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away....

Exactly. Just reading the headline made me think "slurry-tastic".


They're just using deboned muscle, not processing it. I worked at kfc for over a year, it's real chicken, at least in Canada...
 
2013-04-05 09:46:46 AM  
You mean this isn't a national thing already? I've been seeing these "I ate the bones" commercials for 6 months already. Guess I'm in a test market.

/haven't tried them, haven't had KFC for years
 
2013-04-05 09:47:36 AM  

vudukungfu: White_Scarf_Syndrome: I don't know what a gizzard is.

You're pretty white, aren't you?


Well no...yeah. I mean I know what a gizzard DOES!
 
2013-04-05 09:47:45 AM  
In unrelated news, Olive Garden will premier Chicken Viagra about the same time for those who miss the bone.
 
2013-04-05 09:50:13 AM  
Interesting.  KFC thinks people will pay 25 cents per piece for more convenience, but Papa John doesn't think people will pay 25 cents  per pizza to be sure sick workers aren't making their food.
 
2013-04-05 09:51:26 AM  
Egoy3k:

How it works now:
Cook the meat, put it into a tray, put the tray into a heated cabinet and start the corresponding timer (once the timer runs out you toss any meat remaining and cook more)


Of course.  *wink*
 
2013-04-05 09:52:23 AM  

Great_Milenko: What makes KFC taste so good is the high pressure cookers they use to make fried chicken.  The original recipe nuggets and strips are just deep fried, so it doesn't work as well.  If they are taking large fillets and pressure cooking them, it should be pretty tasty.  although it will never replace the taste of skin-on fried chicken, it could be very, very good.  Anyhow, the skin is the worst part healthwise, as it's basically a layer of glorious, delicious fat.  Get 80-90% of the flavor, and people will adapt.

Still, I can't see them phasing out traditional bone-in fried chicken in five years.  Original recipe KFC is simply too popular and a completely unique taste experience than any other chicken.  And unlike Long John Silvers, and McDonald's french fries, it's the one thing from the past that tastes just as good today as it did in the days of cooking in real lard.


At the store i woked at the boneless filets were done in the pressure cooker too, as are the Zinger sandwiches.

We used the open fryer for the old crispy strips, the popcorn chicken, the "classic", the veggie burger and the bone-in crispy wings, plus of course the fries.
 
2013-04-05 09:54:54 AM  
How are women and KFC similar?

Once you are finished with the breast and thighs, all that is left is a greasy box to stick your bone in

/originally heard that one in eighth grade
 
2013-04-05 09:55:28 AM  
Well it was never Fried, and very soon it wasn't Kentucky, so I guess it makes sense it will no longer be Chicken either.
 
2013-04-05 09:55:33 AM  

earthworm2.0: Can't believe I'm white knighting for that craptastic company, but I used to be a manager, the fillets o fish buns are placed in a steamer, not the microwave.


Some restaurants don't have the steamer and the bun goes into the 'quality oven'.

I'll white knight for McDonalds and I won't feel bad about it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with McDonalds as an employer or as a restaurant. Their food is unhealthy and pretty disgusting but no more so than any other fast food chain and nobody forces you to buy it.
 
2013-04-05 09:59:58 AM  

Altman: cajunns: So they're aiming for a certain proportion of the population (millenials) ...good luck with that colonel

Yup you're right.  The Millennials (of which I am one) are a very fickle generation.  Getting us to buy anything consistently usually ends in failure and bankruptcy.


Maybe if they added Bluetooth?
 
2013-04-05 10:01:29 AM  

Egoy3k: earthworm2.0: Can't believe I'm white knighting for that craptastic company, but I used to be a manager, the fillets o fish buns are placed in a steamer, not the microwave.

Some restaurants don't have the steamer and the bun goes into the 'quality oven'.

I'll white knight for McDonalds and I won't feel bad about it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with McDonalds as an employer or as a restaurant. Their food is unhealthy and pretty disgusting but no more so than any other fast food chain and nobody forces you to buy it.


Y'all are pretending to be nice to McDonald's so you can bend it over and give it a good rough rogering in the hoohah because you think it owes you something?

Well, true, after all that grease, it'll be smooth sailing.
 
2013-04-05 10:05:06 AM  

Egoy3k: tillerman35: What they say: Customers want this.
What they mean: This will be more profitable to us.

Because:
1) We can make this crap in a factory and ship it out frozen to stores, who will only need to microwave it, thereby drastically reducing the manpower requirements.
2) We can use ground up, processed and re-processed chicken "parts," where we previously just threw those bits away.
3) The leftover bits, such as bones and innards can now be sold to other firms who process them for things like gelatin, pet food, and fertilizer.
4) We think our customers are stupid and won't realize they're being screwed.  Hell, we'll even charge them more despite the fact that the new business model will cost a mere fraction of what we were paying for product and labor.

1)Microwaves are very rarely used in fast food. For example there are only two items on the McDondals menu that are microwaved, the bun for the fillet of fish sandwich, and the breakfast burritos.
2)These fillets are have been offered in Canada for a long time and the are exactly what they are described as, boneless chicken in the original flour. They aren't bad really and they are most assuredly real cuts of chicken.
3)Yes in the modern world we generally use almost every part of the animals we slaughter.
4)It takes two people to screw.


You know, people used to talk fondly of the American Indians because they found a way to use every part of the animals they killed. But when big business does the same it's bad.
 
2013-04-05 10:06:28 AM  

vudukungfu: White_Scarf_Syndrome: I don't know what a gizzard is.

You're pretty white, aren't you?


That's not fair. The British eat the hell out of the unsightly parts of animals, and they are as white as rice.
 
2013-04-05 10:08:26 AM  
I know there's probably a lot you can do to mess with chicken on the bone, but after seeing the strawberry milkshake mcnugget material, I do not trust chicken that is not connected to the bone. The one exception being buying fresh boneless breasts at the grocery.
 
2013-04-05 10:08:29 AM  

This text is now purple: vudukungfu: White_Scarf_Syndrome: I don't know what a gizzard is.

You're pretty white, aren't you?

That's not fair. The British eat the hell out of the unsightly parts of animals, and they are as white as rice.


One of my favorite exchanges ever:

Craig Kilborn (I'm pretty sure.): Why is British food so bad?

John Cleese: Well, we had an empire to run.
 
2013-04-05 10:09:23 AM  

brnt00: Main page links to autoplay videos? In  my Fark.com? It's more likely than you think.


Yep, I closed the link in about 2.3 seconds. I can't be the only one that does this.
 
2013-04-05 10:09:47 AM  
Highly processed chicken product?

No, thanks. If I want this crap, I'll go to Mickey D's for McNuggets. Stay tuned for the major FAIL announcement.
 
2013-04-05 10:11:19 AM  
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2013-04-05 10:12:00 AM  
Rapmaster2000, you are full of shiat.

And what's so sad about your lies is that they are completely unnecessary. Everybody know fast food is crap. No need to gild the lily with your stupid farking lies.
 
2013-04-05 10:15:39 AM  

earthworm2.0: Rapmaster2000: Egoy3k:

1)Microwaves are very rarely used in fast food. For example there are only two items on the McDondals menu that are microwaved, the bun for the fillet of fish sandwich, and the breakfast burritos.

When I worked there 20 years ago everything was microwaved.  It goes like this.  You cook the meat and put it into a cabinet.  When the counter calls for 12 burgers, you assemble them (they stopped toasting buns around 1992) and put them into a "Q-ing Oven" aka microwave and then send them across the top of the grill.  From there they go into the bin where they sit some more.  Everything went into the Q-Ing oven except The Big Breakfast, the nuggets, and the fries.

Things have changed since you were there.


I worked there 35 years ago, and we actually GRILLED the meat.  On a grill.  Twelve patties at a shot, timed front and back and seared to perfection and served hot off the grill.  We also deep-fried the pies.  OMG, those were soooooo good [jamesfranco.jpg].  And the fries were made with pure white snow-cap lard.  The "food" you get at McDonalds today is a poor shadow of the awesomeness of golden-era fast food.  I'm sorry you have to eat that crap now.  KFC was one of the last hold-outs.
 
2013-04-05 10:16:18 AM  
They can add it to their menu all they want, but I won't go back if they stop serving bone-in chicken including skin.  For me, there's something primal and satisfying about gnawing on a bone.

/yes, I am strange.

//also, extra crispy chicken skin
 
2013-04-05 10:16:20 AM  
Unless they copy Roy Rogers recipe, i will never eat KFC
 
2013-04-05 10:18:23 AM  
They should offer to blend the ten piece bucket into a slurry while they're at it, so you can drink it like a fly.
 
2013-04-05 10:21:46 AM  

bagumpity: I worked there 35 years ago, and we actually GRILLED the meat. On a grill. Twelve patties at a shot, timed front and back and seared to perfection and served hot off the grill. We also deep-fried the pies. OMG, those were soooooo good [jamesfranco.jpg]. And the fries were made with pure white snow-cap lard. The "food" you get at McDonalds today is a poor shadow of the awesomeness of golden-era fast food. I'm sorry you have to eat that crap now. KFC was one of the last hold-outs.


The only thing they don't do anymore from your list is deep frying the pies. Also the small patties are grilled 16 at a time and the grill has a top grill that lowers down to grill both sides of the burger at the same time.  The grills are pretty interesting too, you set the type of patty that you put into it and it adjusts the height of the upper grill and the cooking time. This is from 10 years ago for all I know they have some new high tech meat cooking machine but they were pretty snazzy back then.
 
2013-04-05 10:22:11 AM  

The Snow Dog: Church's and it is flat out nasty.(And they don't sell breasts anymore, WTF?)


Naturally Church doesn't sell parts which can be found on women. They are thinking of the little boys children.
 
2013-04-05 10:22:47 AM  
Anybody else getting a Popeye's ad in the sidebar?
 
2013-04-05 10:22:58 AM  

tillerman35: What they say: Customers want this.
What they mean: This will be more profitable to us.

Because:
1) We can make this crap in a factory and ship it out frozen to stores, who will only need to microwave it, thereby drastically reducing the manpower requirements.



I don't know, man. KFC would deep fry their salads if they figured out a way.
 
2013-04-05 10:24:47 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The day KFC replaces its chicken with "boneless" chicken-and-sawdust-slurry compressed into chicken-like shapes, is the last day I ever step foot in a KFC.


THIS!!! So much This. Thier pot pies are awesome though. I'll miss them.
 
2013-04-05 10:26:06 AM  

Shakes: Rapmaster2000, you are full of shiat.

And what's so sad about your lies is that they are completely unnecessary. Everybody know fast food is crap. No need to gild the lily with your stupid farking lies.


Good stuff right here.  This guy doesn't mess around.  He gets right to the point.  He doesn't care whose toes he steps on.   He is totally in my face.
 
2013-04-05 10:27:32 AM  
How about torture free chickens?
 
2013-04-05 10:37:02 AM  
That will give them room to add more sodium!
 
2013-04-05 10:37:57 AM  
how is this different than the strips and popcorn chicken they already have?  do they buy some new molds to form another shape for their boneless chicken?
 
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