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(Concord Monitor)   Police Chief resigns to devote more time to his newfound interest in "fine art" photography of college students, rather than face charges   (concordmonitor.com) divider line 50
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2013-04-05 07:34:39 AM  
Seastrand desists
 
2013-04-05 07:37:51 AM  
Was she hot?
 
2013-04-05 07:42:14 AM  
If only there was a place, perhaps a series of tubes and/or interlinked nets, that could have satisfied his desire for pictures of naked women...
 
2013-04-05 07:42:40 AM  
Lehmann said the woman would have liked to see criminal charges filed against Seastrand but respected the attorney general office's decision to handle it as it did.

I hope she sues.  The guy should've been charged.  The AG's office is sending a terrible message here.
 
2013-04-05 07:44:00 AM  
Someone should learn the fine art of digital image acquisition and manipulation.

And they need to stop using some proprietary bullshiat that prevents image linking.
 
2013-04-05 07:46:11 AM  
Bad career choice. As a small-town police chief, you're the biggest creepy douchebag in the pond. In "fine art" photography, you're one of many thousands in a huge sea.
 
2013-04-05 07:46:16 AM  

Person: Was she hot?


Not sure, but you ought to see his Adult Friend Finders profile.

/is that him in Ouchy The Clowns posse
 
2013-04-05 07:54:47 AM  

The Muthaship: The AG's office is sending a terrible message here.


There is the recruiting angle to think about.
 
2013-04-05 07:56:03 AM  
Why couldn't you just seize her cell phone for "evidence" like all the other cops? Hell, even I keep a couple jpegs of hawt ladies on my SD card and I'm a old bald guy. Figure it will just grease the palm of justice (almost, I sat, almost a joke there, son).

No sir. She likes being tied up. Kinda hawt, isn't it, officer?
No sir, she's just acting terrified and cowering. That's a fake knife in the foreground. Kinda hawt, isn't it, officer?
Oh no sir, she likes removing her head from her shoulders and bleeding everwhere, kinda hawt, isn't it, officer?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-05 07:56:47 AM  
There may be a federal crime, something or other under color of law.
 
2013-04-05 08:03:03 AM  
Seastrand, who announced his retirement Monday but said then that he planned to work through the end of the month, agreed earlier today to resign immediately and give up his certification as a police officer. As a result, no criminal charges will be filed against him, according to a press release from the attorney general's office.

Can anyone think of other jobs wher eyou can commit felonies but not be charged if you quit? And still get pension?
 
2013-04-05 08:05:19 AM  
Wonder how many other women he arrested said yes? I also wonder how many women he unjustly arrested just so he could ask them for photos?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-04-05 08:07:00 AM  
Can anyone think of other jobs where you can commit felonies but not be charged if you quit? And still get pension?

Finance, except they may send you off with a bonus instead of a pension.
 
2013-04-05 08:08:10 AM  

liam76: Can anyone think of other jobs wher eyou can commit felonies but not be charged if you quit? And still get pension?


Armed forces?
 
2013-04-05 08:08:54 AM  

liam76: Can anyone think of other jobs wher eyou can commit felonies but not be charged if you quit? And still get pension?


POTUS, VPOTUS, Chief of Staff to either
 
2013-04-05 08:11:15 AM  

ZAZ: Finance, except they may send you off with a bonus instead of a pension


Fear the Clam: Armed forces


LordOfThePings: POTUS, VPOTUS, Chief of Staff to either


Good answers...
 
2013-04-05 08:13:21 AM  
To be fair, fine art has a tighter ass than his wife and/or the Attorney General's office.

/biatches don't need to be knowin' about my badge
 
2013-04-05 08:20:36 AM  
That's some mighty fine police art work there, Lou
 
2013-04-05 08:20:50 AM  
There was a cop in Greece NY who was basically using his badge to pick up chicks. He's in jail now for it, that's weird they didn't do anything to this guy. Probably because he asked but nothing happened after that.
 
2013-04-05 08:24:43 AM  
TFA fails to specify what she was arrested for in the first place- is she a felon, or a jay-walker?
 
2013-04-05 08:35:54 AM  

Zemog: TFA fails to specify what she was arrested for in the first place- is she a felon, or a jay-walker?


An unescorted female.
 
2013-04-05 08:37:47 AM  
Pics or it's not real

/obligatory
 
2013-04-05 08:44:52 AM  

miss diminutive: If only there was a place, perhaps a series of tubes and/or interlinked nets, that could have satisfied his desire for pictures of naked women...


That has 2 flaws:
1 it isn't special
2 it doesn't allow him to be directly in control of the woman, both by blackmail and by actually controlling the posing

/authority is a great way to get off
 
2013-04-05 08:52:18 AM  
He was allowed to " resign". He basically just retired, and will now get a huge pension and health care for life, etc. That is a really tough punishment!
 
2013-04-05 08:52:22 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: There was a cop in Greece NY who was basically using his badge to pick up chicks.


...by pulling them over (bad)?  Or by mentioning at the bar that yeah, he's a cop?

Is there any person on the planet who  wouldn't tell someone their chosen vocation if it gave them better odds of getting laid?

/asks the guy whose chosen vocations probably wouldn't...
 
2013-04-05 09:16:01 AM  
Can't blame a guy for trying. I always thought women liked cops. This guy seemed desperate. Maybe he wasn't a big enough arsehole... err have enough confidence to turn them on. He did cave in pretty easily since it was a 'he said she said' thing and probably would never have made it to trial.
 
2013-04-05 09:18:48 AM  

dbirchall: ...by pulling them over (bad)?  Or by mentioning at the bar that yeah, he's a cop?

Is there any person on the planet who  wouldn't tell someone their chosen vocation if it gave them better odds of getting laid?

/asks the guy whose chosen vocations probably wouldn't...


The bad way. He actually used to harass my ex until her boyfriend at the time (who was the firearms instructor for the police department) rode along with her one time when he stopped her.
 
2013-04-05 09:30:37 AM  

liam76: Seastrand, who announced his retirement Monday but said then that he planned to work through the end of the month, agreed earlier today to resign immediately and give up his certification as a police officer. As a result, no criminal charges will be filed against him, according to a press release from the attorney general's office.

Can anyone think of other jobs wher eyou can commit felonies but not be charged if you quit? And still get pension?


Unethical, creepy and wrong? Sure. Felony with enough evidence to convict? Maybe not, and eveyone is just happy to get him out of the job.

As for pensions, you do realize that it's his money, right? It isn't free money thrown at retired employees by the former employer. In most cases, the employee pays 1/3 to 1/2 of the total contribution to the pension fund. The employer's contribution is part of the employee's total compensation, the same a 401 match or employer's portion of health insurance premium. If the guy had a 401, do you think he should have to surrender it on the way out the door?
 
2013-04-05 09:37:49 AM  
if he killed an unarmed civilian he would have got two weeks off paid.
 
2013-04-05 09:40:30 AM  
She could have had criminal charges dropped for a couple of nude pics.
Tag is for the woman
 
2013-04-05 09:46:35 AM  
Does he have a gallery? Or at least a tumblr account?
 
2013-04-05 09:47:31 AM  

KrispyKritter: if he killed an unarmed black or brown civilian he would have got two weeks off paid.

FTFY
 
2013-04-05 10:05:47 AM  
DUI or show us your tits! Your choice.....
 
2013-04-05 10:12:20 AM  
This thread is worthless without pics
 
2013-04-05 10:20:44 AM  

lizyrd: As for pensions, you do realize that it's his money, right?


Soon to be her money, when the civil case goes through. And she should take it all... He should spend the rest of his days as a Wal-mart greeter.
 
2013-04-05 10:37:28 AM  

Theaetetus: He should spend the rest of his days as a Wal-mart greeter.


Welcome to Wal-mart!  Can I interest you in posing naked for discounts?
 
2013-04-05 10:38:45 AM  

Theaetetus: lizyrd: As for pensions, you do realize that it's his money, right?

Soon to be her money, when the civil case goes through. And she should take it all... He should spend the rest of his days as a Wal-mart greeter.


Which is fine. I'm not saying the guy's not a dirtbag, and I'm not saying that he won't get sued or settle.

I'm saying that articles like this often generate comments along the lines of "And he gets to keep his pension! That's bullshiat!" What mechanism these commenters would suggest for impounding a person's retirement savings is never clear. When we read about an office worker getting fired, no one says "the company should take his 401 away," but for some reason there's always biatching about pensions.
 
2013-04-05 10:41:22 AM  
Were they at least tastefully done?

a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
 
2013-04-05 10:41:26 AM  

dbirchall: Theaetetus: He should spend the rest of his days as a Wal-mart greeter.

Welcome to Wal-mart!  Can I interest you in posing naked for discounts?


Roll(on-your)back the savings!
 
2013-04-05 10:42:27 AM  
Why?

Why are you making me think of the women I have seen at WalMart naked?

You have no shred of human compassion.
 
2013-04-05 10:48:21 AM  

lizyrd: When we read about an office worker getting fired, no one says "the company should take his 401 away," but for some reason there's always biatching about pensions.


I've worked with people who should've been fired AND had their past pay clawed back once we found out what they'd been doing . This guy's behavior suggests he may not have earned his past pay - although otherwise you've got a good point and I hadn't thought about that.
 
2013-04-05 10:53:19 AM  

lizyrd: liam76: Seastrand, who announced his retirement Monday but said then that he planned to work through the end of the month, agreed earlier today to resign immediately and give up his certification as a police officer. As a result, no criminal charges will be filed against him, according to a press release from the attorney general's office.

Can anyone think of other jobs wher eyou can commit felonies but not be charged if you quit? And still get pension?

Unethical, creepy and wrong? Sure. Felony with enough evidence to convict? Maybe not, and eveyone is just happy to get him out of the job.

As for pensions, you do realize that it's his money, right? It isn't free money thrown at retired employees by the former employer. In most cases, the employee pays 1/3 to 1/2 of the total contribution to the pension fund. The employer's contribution is part of the employee's total compensation, the same a 401 match or employer's portion of health insurance premium. If the guy had a 401, do you think he should have to surrender it on the way out the door?


No it isn't "his money".  In most cases for all employers isn't the same for a public employee with a very strong union.

I am willing to bet he contributed nothing.

There may not be enough for conviction, but there is enough for bad conduct.  If he isn't doing his job right he deserves nothing from the govt towards his pension.
 
2013-04-05 11:32:21 AM  

lizyrd: When we read about an office worker getting fired, no one says "the company should take his 401 away," but for some reason there's always biatching about pensions.


In many cases, the company will take back their portion of the contribution if a worker is fired for cause.
 
2013-04-05 11:50:34 AM  

doubled99: She could have had criminal charges dropped for a couple of nude pics.
Tag is for the woman


It's good to know who sets the low bar around here. How's the view from the bottom, feeder?
 
2013-04-05 01:55:39 PM  

liam76: No it isn't "his money". In most cases for all employers isn't the same for a public employee with a very strong union.

I am willing to bet he contributed nothing.

There may not be enough for conviction, but there is enough for bad conduct. If he isn't doing his job right he deserves nothing from the govt towards his pension.


I'm willing to bet that you have no idea how pensions are structured, public sector or otherwise.  I, for example, contribute 7% of my gross pay to the retirement system while the city contributes 10.5%.  Ten and a half may seem a little high, except that fire fighters are generally ineligible for Social Security, so the city isn't paying the 6.2% to SSI.

But that's beside the point because even if he were not paying directly from his paycheck, it's part of his total compensation for the job.  Part of his compensation for working there was money was being contributed to the pension fund for him.  That's pay that was already earned, no matter if all, some or none of it was filtered through his paycheck first.
 
2013-04-05 02:15:07 PM  

lizyrd: liam76: No it isn't "his money". In most cases for all employers isn't the same for a public employee with a very strong union.

I am willing to bet he contributed nothing.

There may not be enough for conviction, but there is enough for bad conduct. If he isn't doing his job right he deserves nothing from the govt towards his pension.

I'm willing to bet that you have no idea how pensions are structured, public sector or otherwise. I, for example, contribute 7% of my gross pay to the retirement system while the city contributes 10.5%. Ten and a half may seem a little high, except that fire fighters are generally ineligible for Social Security, so the city isn't paying the 6.2% to SSI.


He is a cop not a fire fighter.

If you have proof that he was paying in apercentage, great then I am fine with him getting that equivalent out.

If you lose your pension you are still eligible for SS.

lizyrd: But that's beside the point because even if he were not paying directly from his paycheck, it's part of his total compensation for the job. Part of his compensation for working there was money was being contributed to the pension fund for him. That's pay that was already earned, no matter if all, some or none of it was filtered through his paycheck first


No ti wasn't.  That pay was based on a good faith agreement that he was doing his job right.  Since it turns out he was using his position to try and get naked pictures of chicks (even once, and I doubt this is the last we heard of hom) then he wasn't holding up his end of the bargain.
 
2013-04-05 02:53:28 PM  

liam76: He is a cop not a fire fighter.

If you have proof that he was paying in apercentage, great then I am fine with him getting that equivalent out.

No proof, but I did bother to look up the New Hampshire Retirement System ( http://www.nhrs.org/planadministration/details.aspx )

From the link:
Member rates are set by statute.  Group I (Employee and Teacher) members contribute 7 percent of their salary to the retirement system.  Group II (Police and Fire) members contribute 11.55 percent and 11.80 percent, respectively, of their salary to the retirement system.  Note: Police and Fire members are not eligible for Social Security.

Assuming that New London, NH is a member of this retirement fund(a safe bet, since it's a podunk town unlikely to administer its own pension), he was paying 11.5% of his pay toward his pension.  By the way, this is how most state-wide municipal employee pensions are structured - I can post more links to other states' funds, if you're unwilling to back off your assertion that public workers with a really strong union pay nothing.

Unions bring us to another interesting side note:  Department chiefs (both police and fire) are almost always considered administration and are not members of the union.

liam76: If you lose your pension you are still eligible for SS.

How do you figure?  Neither he nor the town was paying into SSI.  You don't get money out of Social Security if you paid nothing in.

liam76: If you have proof that he was paying in apercentage, great then I am fine with him getting that equivalent out.

And what about the money that the employer should have been contributing to Social Security (6.2%) but wasn't due to the guy having a SSI-ineligible pension?  Should that money be left in his pension fund?
 
2013-04-05 03:11:44 PM  
New London, CT?  Good thing it wasn't the town government trying to Eminent Domain her house at a subpar rate so some corporate bigwig could expand its parking lot; she's have been SOL then.
 
2013-04-05 03:25:49 PM  

liam76: Seastrand, who announced his retirement Monday but said then that he planned to work through the end of the month, agreed earlier today to resign immediately and give up his certification as a police officer. As a result, no criminal charges will be filed against him, according to a press release from the attorney general's office.

Can anyone think of other jobs wher eyou can commit felonies but not be charged if you quit? And still get pension?


Banking?
 
2013-04-05 03:35:29 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: New London, CT?


Is that where this happened?

In that case, who the hell knows what he actually said?

I couldn't understand a damn word those people said the one time I was there.
 
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