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2013-04-04 09:07:17 PM  
A group Massachusetts parents are outraged and at least one worker has been placed on administrative leave after about 25 students Robert J. Coelho Middle School in Attleboro were forced to throw away their lunches over concerns that they could not pay for the food.

well, yeah.  I mean that's how it works out in the real world too.
 
2013-04-04 09:29:08 PM  
"We apologize to the students and the community for this incident and are conducting a full investigation hoping this will all blow over soon."
 
2013-04-04 09:52:14 PM  
fark me but people are stupid.

If kids can't pay for the food, you still gotta feed 'em. Feed 'em all until the food runs out and no one can fault you.

But if you let even ONE kid go hungry, even if that kid deserves it, you're farked. To force 25 kids to throw away good food? Goodbye job. Take solace in the fact we con only fire you because most parents of those kids would rather set you ON FIRE. Leave now and change your name and you might just be able to get another job one day.
 
2013-04-04 10:10:05 PM  

doglover: fark me but people are stupid.

If kids can't pay for the food, you still gotta feed 'em. Feed 'em all until the food runs out and no one can fault you.

But if you let even ONE kid go hungry, even if that kid deserves it, you're farked. To force 25 kids to throw away good food? Goodbye job. Take solace in the fact we con only fire you because most parents of those kids would rather set you ON FIRE. Leave now and change your name and you might just be able to get another job one day.


actually, the person responsible for this would probably do well as a corrections officer.
 
2013-04-04 10:19:31 PM  

Weaver95: doglover: fark me but people are stupid.

If kids can't pay for the food, you still gotta feed 'em. Feed 'em all until the food runs out and no one can fault you.

But if you let even ONE kid go hungry, even if that kid deserves it, you're farked. To force 25 kids to throw away good food? Goodbye job. Take solace in the fact we con only fire you because most parents of those kids would rather set you ON FIRE. Leave now and change your name and you might just be able to get another job one day.

actually, the person responsible for this would probably do well as a corrections officer.


Hence the reason I'm almost always opposed to anything but cuts to law enforcement budgets and powers.
 
2013-04-04 10:36:21 PM  
This ought to be interesting.  Small government people should like this, but perhaps that beaten down sense of moral decency in the libertarian types will poke up and go "Hey, starving kids is bad."

Probably not.
 
2013-04-04 10:40:31 PM  

GAT_00: This ought to be interesting.  Small government people should like this, but perhaps that beaten down sense of moral decency in the libertarian types will poke up and go "Hey, starving kids is bad."

Probably not.


the true libertarian would find a way to arm the hungry kids and the school administration, then let both sides sort things out on their own.
 
2013-04-04 10:43:08 PM  

Weaver95: GAT_00: This ought to be interesting.  Small government people should like this, but perhaps that beaten down sense of moral decency in the libertarian types will poke up and go "Hey, starving kids is bad."

Probably not.

the true libertarian would find a way to arm the hungry kids and the school administration, then let both sides sort things out on their own.


Why exactly is the libertarian solution handouts?
 
2013-04-04 11:10:39 PM  
That cafeteria needs better handlers and doormen.  Do you get into the club if you don't look like you can afford it? No, you're booted off the rope line.

On the other hand, the kids should have worn some bling and designer clothes, got the food and said, "Call my agent. I don't actually carry money. Other people touch it and it's dirty."
 
2013-04-05 12:10:22 AM  
Not only did they have to throw away their meat, they couldn't have any pudding.
 
2013-04-05 12:17:31 AM  
Something something bootstraps
 
2013-04-05 12:22:27 AM  

GAT_00: Weaver95: GAT_00: This ought to be interesting.  Small government people should like this, but perhaps that beaten down sense of moral decency in the libertarian types will poke up and go "Hey, starving kids is bad."

Probably not.

the true libertarian would find a way to arm the hungry kids and the school administration, then let both sides sort things out on their own.

Why exactly is the libertarian solution handouts?


I didn't say I'd GIVE the guns away.  I'd just find a way to make some sort of profit or gain an advantage by dealing weapons to both sides.  then I'll sell medical supplies to the survivors.
 
2013-04-05 12:24:10 AM  
They not wasted food by forcing the children to throw away their lunches, but they didn't follow procedure either. Children who don't have sufficient funds in their account or cash on hand to pay are supposed to be given a cheese sandwich & a glass of milk.
 
2013-04-05 12:26:46 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: They not wasted food by forcing the children to throw away their lunches, but they didn't follow procedure either. Children who don't have sufficient funds in their account or cash on hand to pay are supposed to be given a cheese sandwich & a glass of milk.


I"m pretty sure that feeding the hungry (and healing the sick too for that matter) is pure socialisms, and thus evil.  if you starve the kids, that motivates them to find a way to get food....the strong and smart survive while the weak and useless perish.  all of society benefits!
 
2013-04-05 01:39:51 AM  
Just feed the kids you pieces of sh*t. What a waste, good food tossed and empty tummies grumbling.
 
2013-04-05 01:42:22 AM  

Weaver95: doglover: fark me but people are stupid.

If kids can't pay for the food, you still gotta feed 'em. Feed 'em all until the food runs out and no one can fault you.

But if you let even ONE kid go hungry, even if that kid deserves it, you're farked. To force 25 kids to throw away good food? Goodbye job. Take solace in the fact we con only fire you because most parents of those kids would rather set you ON FIRE. Leave now and change your name and you might just be able to get another job one day.

actually, the person responsible for this would probably do well as a corrections officer.


The TSA would hire him in a minute.
 
2013-04-05 02:03:28 AM  

doglover: fark me but people are stupid.

If kids can't pay for the food, you still gotta feed 'em. Feed 'em all until the food runs out and no one can fault you.

But if you let even ONE kid go hungry, even if that kid deserves it, you're farked. To force 25 kids to throw away good food? Goodbye job. Take solace in the fact we con only fire you because most parents of those kids would rather set you ON FIRE. Leave now and change your name and you might just be able to get another job one day.


Recall the lunch lady who was fired for feeding kids who had no money?  That was a good thread.
 
2013-04-05 02:05:43 AM  

Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: GAT_00: This ought to be interesting.  Small government people should like this, but perhaps that beaten down sense of moral decency in the libertarian types will poke up and go "Hey, starving kids is bad."

Probably not.

the true libertarian would find a way to arm the hungry kids and the school administration, then let both sides sort things out on their own.

Why exactly is the libertarian solution handouts?

I didn't say I'd GIVE the guns away.  I'd just find a way to make some sort of profit or gain an advantage by dealing weapons to both sides.  then I'll sell medical supplies to the survivors.


And funeral services.  Don't leave money on the coffin.
 
2013-04-05 02:08:19 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: They not wasted food by forcing the children to throw away their lunches, but they didn't follow procedure either. Children who don't have sufficient funds in their account or cash on hand to pay are supposed to be given a cheese sandwich & a glass of milk.


So they'll fart in class all afternoon.  Good plan.

If tissues are good enough for hardworking supermodels, they're good enough for unproductive little asses sitting at my tax-funded desks.
 
2013-04-05 02:10:19 AM  

Weaver95: doglover: fark me but people are stupid.

If kids can't pay for the food, you still gotta feed 'em. Feed 'em all until the food runs out and no one can fault you.

But if you let even ONE kid go hungry, even if that kid deserves it, you're farked. To force 25 kids to throw away good food? Goodbye job. Take solace in the fact we con only fire you because most parents of those kids would rather set you ON FIRE. Leave now and change your name and you might just be able to get another job one day.

actually, the person responsible for this would probably do well as a corrections officer.


Or child support enforcement agent.
 
2013-04-05 03:08:49 AM  
The outraged parents sound fat.
 
2013-04-05 03:13:11 AM  

the_chief: The outraged parents sound fat.entitled and on welfare.


Fixed that for you.
 
2013-04-05 03:13:28 AM  
That cafeteria was probably screwed no matter what. If they had let the kids eat without the having enough credit, they'd probably get in trouble with the company (but we'd never hear about it). Or force the kids to throw away food, and you get this.

Everyone loses in the end.
 
2013-04-05 03:15:26 AM  

doglover: fark me but people are stupid.

If kids can't pay for the food, you still gotta feed 'em. Feed 'em all until the food runs out and no one can fault you.

But if you let even ONE kid go hungry, even if that kid deserves it, you're farked. To force 25 kids to throw away good food? Goodbye job. Take solace in the fact we con only fire you because most parents of those kids would rather set you ON FIRE. Leave now and change your name and you might just be able to get another job one day.



And since this is Massachusetts, that job will be at the Turnpike Authority and pay a shiatload more - if you've greased the right palms.
 
2013-04-05 03:17:07 AM  

Weaver95: GAT_00: This ought to be interesting.  Small government people should like this, but perhaps that beaten down sense of moral decency in the libertarian types will poke up and go "Hey, starving kids is bad."

Probably not.

the true libertarian would find a way to arm the hungry kids and the school administration, then let both sides sort things out on their own.


Ahh... I see you have read "Principles of Management Training," by the former Sister Mary Loquacious.
 
2013-04-05 03:18:36 AM  

Mentat: Something something bootstraps


They should be fed bootstrap soup.

Being forced to throw food away because you couldn't pay for it = first world problems.  Somewhere, someone's grandmother is yelling about the starving kids in Africa.
 
2013-04-05 03:20:12 AM  
Eh...not quite capitalism.

The food wouldn't be wasted if managed by a good capitalist. That's destruction of capital. Capitalism would have the food be floated to the kids under a credit scenario where the terms favor prompt repayment due to ballooning interest. Structure school rules to prohibit a child from easily giving up the debt also.

The point of capitalism is to leverage capital to increase capital... not piss off everyone for no good reason.
 
2013-04-05 03:20:51 AM  
Wait, you have to pay for food before you can eat it? WHAT?!?!? Since WHEN?
 
2013-04-05 03:21:57 AM  

TheHumanCannonball: That cafeteria was probably screwed no matter what. If they had let the kids eat without the having enough credit, they'd probably get in trouble with the company (but we'd never hear about it). Or force the kids to throw away food, and you get this.

Everyone loses in the end.


Sounds like the private company that oversees lunches in this public school laid the hammer down, and the flunkie who supervises the lunchroom followed orders.
 
2013-04-05 03:22:25 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Bathia_Mapes: They not wasted food by forcing the children to throw away their lunches, but they didn't follow procedure either. Children who don't have sufficient funds in their account or cash on hand to pay are supposed to be given a cheese sandwich & a glass of milk.

So they'll fart in class all afternoon.  Good plan.

If tissues are good enough for hardworking supermodels, they're good enough for unproductive little asses sitting at my tax-funded desks.


I laughed
 
2013-04-05 03:22:31 AM  
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2013-04-05 03:22:49 AM  
I was distracted by how cute the kid in the picture is.  Daaaaaawww..
 
2013-04-05 03:24:38 AM  
I'm not sure how I feel about this.

Were these
1)  white suburban snowflakes (outrage ensues), or
2)  the crotchfruit of the 47%? (get a job lazy bums)
 
2013-04-05 03:25:46 AM  
I'm an evil socialist, but I think schools should feed all kids for free, twice a day & maybe even provide a sack meal for dinner if the financial / living situation warrants it.  Hungry bellies cause growing brains to make bad decisions. Force parents / tax payers to pay for it.  It's better for everyone if kids aren't hungry just like it's better for everyone if kids can read and add.
 
2013-04-05 03:26:37 AM  

djkutch: That cafeteria needs better handlers and doormen.  Do you get into the club if you don't look like you can afford it? No, you're booted off the rope line.

On the other hand, the kids should have worn some bling and designer clothes, got the food and said, "Call my agent. I don't actually carry money. Other people touch it and it's dirty."


That's about what happened all the schools in my area got huge kick backs from some prepaid card company the parents have to load money onto it online or can take cash to the school office but they are not allowed to send cash with the kids.
 
2013-04-05 03:27:10 AM  

Alphax: I was distracted by how cute the kid in the picture is.  Daaaaaawww..


Punky Brewster
 
2013-04-05 03:28:47 AM  

Mrbogey: Capitalism would have the food be floated to the kids under a credit scenario where the terms favor prompt repayment due to ballooning interest.


Charge interest on student food cards that fall below a minimum balance?  Brilliant!

Since they're poor, I assume we could charge, what, 600%, compounded weekly?

Personally, I blame their parents for not caring enough to have the money to feed their kids.
 
2013-04-05 03:39:26 AM  
Y'know, I was reading the lunchlady thread linked upthread.

Two things crossed my mind:

1) A journal I made 7 months ago:  https://sfw.furaffinity.net/journal/3779123/ (Warning. Furry Site. In SFW mode. Linking to a SFW Journal.) . Basically, for those who are afraid to catch Furpies virus or something, it would cost 30 million dollars to give the entire population of the United States 3 servings of rice per day. For the year it comes to under 12 billion, or about 1.5% of what we spend on the military.

We can afford to make certain that nobody in this country goes hungry, goddamnit. We are wealthy enough as a people, society, nation, culture, and state to easily afford this from the national couch cushion change fund.

2) Quantum Apostostrophy, an anti-spacetech nutter, actually said something relatively clearheaded, albiet with the anti-spacetech digs, related to the point above. I am flabbergasted.
 
2013-04-05 03:45:17 AM  
Why are we reading about this?

If those kids were armed they could take the lunch they need without argument.
 
2013-04-05 03:45:51 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Children who don't have sufficient funds in their account or cash on hand to pay are supposed to be given a cheese sandwich & a glass of milk.

a ghetto excuse of a lunch that won't keep them from being hungry before the end of the day.

Seriously, we can't afford to give a child a four dollar lunch for free?

50 million kids. Four bucks a day. 150 days a year. $30 billion a year. Not even a month of Iraq combat ops.  With a DoD core budget of $500 billion, you couldn't afford that?

What a farked country.
 
2013-04-05 03:48:09 AM  

doglover: Weaver95: doglover: fark me but people are stupid.

If kids can't pay for the food, you still gotta feed 'em. Feed 'em all until the food runs out and no one can fault you.

But if you let even ONE kid go hungry, even if that kid deserves it, you're farked. To force 25 kids to throw away good food? Goodbye job. Take solace in the fact we con only fire you because most parents of those kids would rather set you ON FIRE. Leave now and change your name and you might just be able to get another job one day.

actually, the person responsible for this would probably do well as a corrections officer.

Hence the reason I'm almost always opposed to anything but cuts to law enforcement budgets and powers.


Because cutting leo pay will get you better leos?

Less training gets you better leos?

Fewer prison staff members makes them less reactionary and fearful of the prisoners?

Stop me if you see where I am going. Now, the powers bit, that I can agree on.
 
2013-04-05 03:48:48 AM  
So.... irresponsible parents, who didn't place money on their kids lunch account, are upset because irresponsible lunch staffer didn't hand out free cheese sandwiches.  Why don't we just call it even.
 
2013-04-05 03:49:51 AM  
This would never happen if government ran the schools. Stupid capitalists.
 
2013-04-05 03:52:25 AM  

MisterRonbo: Bathia_Mapes: Children who don't have sufficient funds in their account or cash on hand to pay are supposed to be given a cheese sandwich & a glass of milk.a ghetto excuse of a lunch that won't keep them from being hungry before the end of the day.

Seriously, we can't afford to give a child a four dollar lunch for free?

50 million kids. Four bucks a day. 150 days a year. $30 billion a year. Not even a month of Iraq combat ops.  With a DoD core budget of $500 billion, you couldn't afford that?

What a farked country.


They were dollar lunches when I was in high school, in the late 80's.  60 cents when I was in grade school.  Some kids just paid for milk, and brought the rest of their lunch.
 
2013-04-05 03:55:15 AM  
School inadvertently teaches kids how capitalism works in the real world.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2013-04-05 03:55:43 AM  
I like how an act of government waste somehow reflects poorly on capitalism.

www.biography.com

If getting the government to destroy food is what capitalism entails, this guy must be Ayn Rand squared.
 
2013-04-05 03:56:17 AM  
User application error in module FOOD. Reboot system.
 
2013-04-05 03:56:19 AM  

MisterRonbo: Bathia_Mapes: Children who don't have sufficient funds in their account or cash on hand to pay are supposed to be given a cheese sandwich & a glass of milk.a ghetto excuse of a lunch that won't keep them from being hungry before the end of the day.

Seriously, we can't afford to give a child a four dollar lunch for free?

50 million kids. Four bucks a day. 150 days a year. $30 billion a year. Not even a month of Iraq combat ops.  With a DoD core budget of $500 billion, you couldn't afford that?

What a farked country.


As an adult who earns in the very low six figures: I don't regularly spend four dollars on lunch.

I guess it kind of depends on where you live because you might be in a mythical food dessert, but how can a not-for-profit children's lunch come to four bucks?

Plus a grilled cheese and milk is plenty of calories. Throw some carrots and/or a piece of fruit on top of that and you are done and done.

Not trying to screw kids over, but let's be realistic.
 
2013-04-05 03:57:11 AM  

super_grass: I like how an act of government waste somehow reflects poorly on capitalism.

[www.biography.com image 402x402]

If getting the government to destroy food is what capitalism entails, this guy must be Ayn Rand squared.


Ever hear of Outsourcing? It's the big thing to do these days, especially for schools to do with their cafeteria.

/Forget it, he's rolling.
 
2013-04-05 03:59:33 AM  
This is downright vile. I work on and off as a substitute teacher, and I've paid out of my own pocket to get lunch for hungry students because a lot of them can't afford it. Many of the teachers I've worked with have done the same, because our lunch lady is a coont.

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