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(LA Times)   Majority of Americans: "Legalize it"   (latimes.com) divider line 244
    More: Interesting, Americans, marijuana legalization, coastal states, Pew Research Center  
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2013-04-04 04:13:47 PM  
First time in 4 decades plus of polling...

Also

By an overwhelming margin, 72% to 23%, respondents said the federal government's efforts against marijuana "cost more than they are worth."
Similarly, by nearly 2-to-1, respondents said the federal government should not enforce its anti-marijuana laws in states that allow use of the drug.


Wonder who the foot draggers will be...

The poll suggests a shift in federal law may be slow. A notable political split exists on the issue, with conservative Republicans heavily against legalization, while majorities of Democrats, independents and liberal and moderate Republicans back it. Conservatives have strong sway among Republicans in the House.

This was somewhat surprising:

Support for legalization is strikingly uniform among states, with the percentage virtually the same in the states that have decriminalized, legalized or allowed medical use and in the 26 where marijuana remains fully illegal. There is little variation among various regions of the country either -- a sharp contrast with other cultural issues, on which coastal states tend to be more liberal and the South more conservative.
 
2013-04-04 04:15:27 PM  
Federal Government:  "HAHAHA!. No thanks, we've really gotten to like all the extra money and power we get from the war on drugs.  Now STFU and GBTW, citizen."
 
2013-04-04 04:37:22 PM  

Honest Bender: Federal Government:  "HAHAHA!. No thanks, we've really gotten to like all the extra money and power we get from the war on drugs.  Now STFU and GBTW, citizen."


But before you go back to work, would you mind peeing in this bottle?
 
2013-04-04 04:39:55 PM  
I wouldnt mind buying a pack of joints at the corner store

Still would be better if Oxycodone was OTC
 
2013-04-04 04:51:26 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Honest Bender: Federal Government:  "HAHAHA!. No thanks, we've really gotten to like all the extra money and power we get from the war on drugs.  Now STFU and GBTW, citizen."

But before you go back to work, would you mind peeing in this bottle?


That's the one I don't get. "Want to work here? Show us what you do in your down time." Except the drinking. And orgies. And smoking. And rock climbing. And bungee jumping. And high speed motorcycle riding. And shooting. And on and on.
 
2013-04-04 05:01:22 PM  

cman: I wouldnt mind buying a pack of joints at the corner store
Still would be better if Oxycodone was OTC


Agree with you on the corner store but imagine how expensive (TAXXXXXES) that would be.
Can't agree with you on the oxy though.  Too many zombies as it is.

/Can't smoke
//Don't smoke
///Don't condone it
////Used to.  Oh god did I used to.
 
2013-04-04 05:16:26 PM  

cman: Still would be better if Oxycodone was OTC


http://video.adultswim.com/sealab-2021/they-destroyed-themselves.htm l

Eat some more pills, pill head.
 
2013-04-04 05:39:04 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: cman: Still would be better if Oxycodone was OTC

http://video.adultswim.com/sealab-2021/they-destroyed-themselves.htm l

Eat some more pills, pill head.


At least we know his drug of choice now.  And why he's sounding more and more like Limbaugh every day - he's getting just as backed up as he is.
 
2013-04-04 05:41:12 PM  
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The first decree is to legalize marijuana.
The tyranny and the bullshiat's gone on too long.
You old farkin' shrivs who blocked it's legalization,
you're banished from the land!
 
2013-04-04 05:48:04 PM  
When I hire people, they have to test positive for cocaine or meth.
 
2013-04-04 05:52:18 PM  

impaler: When I hire people, they have to test positive for cocaine or meth.


Lots of random things need organizing?
 
2013-04-04 05:53:49 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Lots of random things need organizing?


But only part way.
 
2013-04-04 05:53:52 PM  

Nadie_AZ: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Honest Bender: Federal Government:  "HAHAHA!. No thanks, we've really gotten to like all the extra money and power we get from the war on drugs.  Now STFU and GBTW, citizen."

But before you go back to work, would you mind peeing in this bottle?

That's the one I don't get. "Want to work here? Show us what you do in your down time." Except the drinking. And orgies. And smoking. And rock climbing. And bungee jumping. And high speed motorcycle riding. And shooting. And on and on.


I once got a job with a very large, well known tech company. The best gig I ever had, and they didn't test.

/it occurred to me later that at that particular company, smoking pot was kind of expected
 
2013-04-04 06:12:08 PM  

impaler: When I hire people, they have to test positive for cocaine or meth.


Yeah, I used to be in hospitality management, too.
 
2013-04-04 06:36:32 PM  
The effect of parenthood may also be part of the most striking shift in opinion -- the change among members of the baby boom generation. During the 1970s, when baby boomers were in their teens and 20s, a plurality supported legalizing pot, with support hitting 47% in a 1978 survey. But as they aged, boomers changed their minds, with support for legal marijuana dropping to fewer than one in five baby boomers by 1990, when members of the generation were in their 30s and 40s. Since then, they've shifted again, and the new poll shows 50% now support legalizing the drug.

And we hear biatching from boomers about how my generation (and younger) are the "me" generation.

Also (also), from
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2013/0404/Support-for-legal- ma rijuana-may-have-reached-tipping-point-poll-finds

In 1991, only 17 percent supported legalization, while 78 percent opposed.

Quite the shift.
 
2013-04-04 06:50:27 PM  

cman: Still would be better if Oxycodone was OTC


Yes, let's make a highly addictive drug, that's already the most abused prescription drug in the country, OTC.  That will turn out well.
 
2013-04-04 06:50:55 PM  
I don't care.  I'm not going to use it anyway, but I've voted for it everytime it shows up on a ballot.

Convincing the alcohol and pharma lobbies to play along is the biggest hindrance.

/it's always all about money
 
2013-04-04 07:52:37 PM  
I've been smoking weed since I was 15 and and I'm well in my 40s now. I'm pretty cool with the way things are except I guess I wouldn't mind trying my hand at growing my own without worry of arrest. Probably cheaper this way without all the tax issues.
 
2013-04-04 08:05:47 PM  
Weed and Hookers should be legal.

End of story.
 
2013-04-04 08:11:57 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Nadie_AZ: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Honest Bender: Federal Government:  "HAHAHA!. No thanks, we've really gotten to like all the extra money and power we get from the war on drugs.  Now STFU and GBTW, citizen."

But before you go back to work, would you mind peeing in this bottle?

That's the one I don't get. "Want to work here? Show us what you do in your down time." Except the drinking. And orgies. And smoking. And rock climbing. And bungee jumping. And high speed motorcycle riding. And shooting. And on and on.

I once got a job with a very large, well known tech company. The best gig I ever had, and they didn't test.

/it occurred to me later that at that particular company, smoking pot was kind of expected


Try working in game dev.

If they tested everyone here, there wouldn't be anyone left to turn off the lights and lock the door.
 
2013-04-04 08:15:33 PM  
≈90% of Americans support universal background checks for firearms purchases, yet it looks like it has no chance in Congress.  Marijuana legalization is up against the exact same kind of challenge.  There are just enough entities holding purse strings to keep any bill that would de-criminalize cannabis out there that it wouldn't ever make it to a vote.

Gay marriage has only cultural opposition.  It will be legal.  Weed has financial opposition.  It won't.
 
2013-04-04 08:27:07 PM  
I would support legalization.
 
2013-04-04 08:27:44 PM  
Get Marc Emery the f*ck out of the American jail he should never have gone to in the first place.
 
2013-04-04 08:36:44 PM  

Rev.K: Get Marc Emery the f*ck out of the American jail he should never have gone to in the first place.


Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

Pot should be legal, but no one's said ANYTHING about legalizing being Canadian.
 
2013-04-04 08:45:35 PM  
Two states have legalized cannabis but only because there was a direct public vote on the issue.
 
2013-04-04 08:53:51 PM  
Most Americans no longer see marijuana as a "gateway" to more dangerous drugs, and most no longer see its use as immoral. As recently as 2006, half of respondents said in a Pew survey that marijuana use was "morally wrong." Now, only one-third do, while half say that marijuana usage is "not a moral issue."

that suggests NORML's outreach and education efforts are really starting to pay off.  hard facts and scientific evidence beat government propaganda every time...
 
2013-04-04 09:12:32 PM  
Yeah, maybe the majority when you count the big cities, but when you get to individual states, bible belt states, better think again.
 
2013-04-04 09:22:28 PM  

basemetal: Yeah, maybe the majority when you count the big cities, but when you get to individual states, bible belt states, better think again.


if we change the federal laws and leave the decision up to the states, i'm sure the situation will resolve itself rather quickly.
 
2013-04-04 09:34:03 PM  

Weaver95: Most Americans no longer see marijuana as a "gateway" to more dangerous drugs, and most no longer see its use as immoral. As recently as 2006, half of respondents said in a Pew survey that marijuana use was "morally wrong." Now, only one-third do, while half say that marijuana usage is "not a moral issue."

that suggests NORML's outreach and education efforts are really starting to pay off.  hard facts and scientific evidence beat government propaganda every time...


That, or people just wanna get high and this time instead of letting crusty old congressmen vote they asked the people themselves.
 
2013-04-04 09:53:07 PM  

basemetal: Yeah, maybe the majority when you count the big cities, but when you get to individual states, bible belt states, better think again.


"Support for legalization is strikingly uniform among states, with the percentage virtually the same in the states that have decriminalized, legalized or allowed medical use and in the 26 where marijuana remains fully illegal. There is little variation among various regions of the country either -- a sharp contrast with other cultural issues, on which coastal states tend to be more liberal and the South more conservative. "
 
2013-04-04 09:58:41 PM  
I was watching the original 1950's Dragnet on Netflix, where they had a story about a "Teens Going Bad" in a neighborhood.  One scene had a brawl in a movie theater with an usher getting severely beaten and a child being pushed through glass and potentially blinded for life.

The cause: Marijuana.

Yes. A right due to weed.  For decades people believed this because that's what the man wanted you to believe...
 
2013-04-04 10:05:18 PM  

doglover: Pot should be legal, but no one's said ANYTHING about legalizing being Canadian.


I'm watching you.
 
2013-04-04 10:06:24 PM  
Obvious tag is too baked to show up for work... again!  :D
 
2013-04-04 10:09:09 PM  
'bout damn time. I like getting young white girls hooked on the reefers and then peddling their asses to dark-skinned jazz musicians.

brucealanblock.com
 
2013-04-04 10:10:48 PM  
How appropriate. This thread is directly above one call 'The face of meth'.

Not sure if it's a genuine coincidence or the mods have been umm smoking something...
 
2013-04-04 10:11:44 PM  
Legalize it, regulate it like alcohol is now, tax the ever living shiat out of it like alcohol and tobacco are now, and make a roadside test for it.
 
2013-04-04 10:13:05 PM  
The drug dealers are going to keep fighting against legalization; they're not going to let the government put them out of business.

Expect a lot of FUD about Philip Morris making joints, or Monsanto creating a "roundup ready" GMO version of pot. In other words, "I can't handle free market competition."
 
2013-04-04 10:15:52 PM  
Who has executive control over the DOJ and the DEA?

www.postchronicle.com

All he has to do is stop the enforcement on the Federal level. The rest will fall into place.

He is no longer defending DOMA, yet he refuses to back off on marijuana.

Why?
 
2013-04-04 10:17:13 PM  
Honestly, I'd have thought an agriculture state would be the first to give a giant middle finger to the government. Pot grows everywhere and costs almost nothing to keep alive. For the price, farmers would adore planting it.
 
2013-04-04 10:17:19 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: A notable political split exists on the issue, with conservative Republicans heavily against legalization,


I never understood this. You'd think that federal drug reform would be a conservative's wet dream: small government, state's rights, decr... wait, what's that? Conservative Republicans aren't actually conservative?

Oh. Now I get it.
 
2013-04-04 10:17:45 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I once got a job with a very large, well known tech company. The best gig I ever had, and they didn't test.

/it occurred to me later that at that particular company, smoking pot was kind of expected


IBM?
 
2013-04-04 10:20:32 PM  

Paka Ono: Obvious tag is too baked to show up for work... again!  :D


Back when I worked retail, getting high was the only way I could stand to be at work.
 
2013-04-04 10:21:25 PM  

Amos Quito: Who has executive control over the DOJ and the DEA?

[www.postchronicle.com image 300x286]

All he has to do is stop the enforcement on the Federal level. The rest will fall into place.

He is no longer defending DOMA, yet he refuses to back off on marijuana.

Why?


I don't know. If he stops it the butthurt from the Republicans might just push him over the edge.
 
2013-04-04 10:22:15 PM  

MrEricSir: The drug dealers are going to keep fighting against legalization; they're not going to let the government put them out of business.

Expect a lot of FUD about Philip Morris making joints, or Monsanto creating a "roundup ready" GMO version of pot. In other words, "I can't handle free market competition."


The biggest drug dealers are Merck and Pfizer.
 
2013-04-04 10:22:24 PM  
I don't think I know anyone who is actually against legalization, and I've lived all around the deep south.  Some aren't really for it, but they aren't against it either.  Even some die hard baptists I know admit it's no worse than booze, and should be legal if booze is.
 
2013-04-04 10:22:51 PM  

thatboyoverthere: If he stops it the butthurt from the Republicans might just push him over the edge.


Just stick em in a box and get 'em high.
 
2013-04-04 10:23:07 PM  
As far back as 1990, the insurance company I did IT work for got a bunch of new managers (out with the men, in with women managers for some stupid reason).  One of the new managers angrily demanded that they drug test all the employees.  One of her superiors said "No, we don't want to have to fire half our staff" (I was there for the conversation).  And that was the end of it.

I've worked for a number of companies since then that say they drug test, but never tested me.

Of course, been almost 10 years since I last touched the stuff.

God I miss it.
 
2013-04-04 10:24:28 PM  

cman: I wouldnt mind buying a pack of joints at the corner store

Still would be better if Oxycodone was OTC


I was prescribed that stuff a long while back.  All it did was make me throw up and voluntarily watch football.

It didn't do anything for the pain resulting from having tender flesh sliced apart and then sewed back together into a kind of mangulated oozing zone of swollen despair, so I only ever took the one.
 
2013-04-04 10:24:59 PM  
As someone retiring from the Air National Guard this year, I am all for it ;)

I'd be very okay with the DEA focusing their efforts on meth. Evil, evil shiat and enough out there to keep them in business.
 
2013-04-04 10:25:16 PM  

s2s2s2: thatboyoverthere: If he stops it the butthurt from the Republicans might just push him over the edge.

Just stick em in a box and get 'em high.


I've even found the perfect tool for the job!
Red, and NSFW!
 
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