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(Washington Post)   On the GOP's substitute WH tour: ...and if you look to your right, you'll see thousands of Medicare patients who were denied cancer treatments due to the sequester   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 250
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2013-04-04 03:30:12 PM
But god-damn, we need to save the F35!  and the LCS!  Oh, and what about Benghazi?!


/Dem members of Congress should start taking pay cuts, and directing the funds to cover items like these treatments
 
2013-04-04 03:33:40 PM
And here I thought there were no real consequences from the sequester, right Republicans?
 
2013-04-04 03:41:11 PM

GAT_00: And here I thought there were no real consequences from the sequester, right Republicans?


I think this comes under the heading of "entitlement reform"
 
2013-04-04 03:46:23 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: And here I thought there were no real consequences from the sequester, right Republicans?

I think this comes under the heading of "entitlement reform"


Oh, yeah - let's start by removing all the entitlements that our governmental representatives have. Take away their health care. Take away their retirement plans. Will we see how quickly things move thereafter?
 
2013-04-04 03:54:09 PM
Make up your farking minds people.  You want budget cuts?  You got them.  Now you're crying about the budget cuts?  Spare me.
 
2013-04-04 04:02:44 PM
And if anyone out there thinks that one side is any more at fault than the other you are living in a fantasy day-dreaming world!
They are both at fault for not working together, doing ther jobs and working towards to needs and goals of this country and its people.
They are both self-serving egomaniacs
 
2013-04-04 04:13:14 PM

DownDaRiver: And if anyone out there thinks that one side is any more at fault than the other you are living in a fantasy day-dreaming world!
They are both at fault for not working together, doing ther jobs and working towards to needs and goals of this country and its people.
They are both self-serving egomaniacs


Sorry, but the republicans refuse to add any new taxes or the closing of loopholes. WH already put their spending cuts on the table. Also, these cuts are what the republicans wanted anyway.

Obama also asked for legislation to specify where and how much to cut, and the house republicans said no. My guess is to try and put blame for the hurt on the WH.

There is historical fact in my fantasy world.
 
2013-04-04 04:18:53 PM
Save your buts for someone else
You know I'm right
 
2013-04-04 04:31:46 PM

DownDaRiver: And if anyone out there thinks that one side is any more at fault than the other you are living in a fantasy day-dreaming world!
They are both at fault for not working together, doing ther jobs and working towards to needs and goals of this country and its people.
They are both self-serving egomaniacs


bullshiat

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T REFUSED TO PAY AMERICA'S BILLS IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.
 
2013-04-04 04:51:41 PM

DownDaRiver: Save your buts for someone else
You know I'm right


No, sorry, you're not.
 
2013-04-04 04:52:33 PM

FlashHarry: DownDaRiver: And if anyone out there thinks that one side is any more at fault than the other you are living in a fantasy day-dreaming world!
They are both at fault for not working together, doing ther jobs and working towards to needs and goals of this country and its people.
They are both self-serving egomaniacs

bullshiat

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T REFUSED TO PAY AMERICA'S BILLS IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.


Quit yere frickin yellin

There would be no Sequester and a lot of other issues if they worked together!!!

And that's the point

Save your retoric for for those like yourself that are blinded by your own false beliefs. That only you and what you believe could be right and therefore everyone else must be wrong
 
2013-04-04 04:54:47 PM
So when is Congress going to take a pay cut?
 
2013-04-04 04:57:11 PM

DownDaRiver: There would be no Sequester and a lot of other issues if they worked together!!!


Yeah, if only John Boehner had gotten 90% of what he wanted from the President and the Democrats, we wouldn't have gotten into this mess.
 
2013-04-04 05:01:02 PM
Most efficient organization in the world. The US Government.

No place to cut but police, firefighters, TSA goons, meat inspectors, oncology drugs.
 
2013-04-04 05:03:25 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: DownDaRiver: Save your buts for someone else
You know I'm right

No, sorry, you're not.


No, I am right

If they worked together instead of for themselves this would never have even came up
 
2013-04-04 05:15:21 PM

DownDaRiver: Save your retoric for for those like yourself that are blinded by your own false beliefs. That only you and what you believe could be right and therefore everyone else must be wrong



You're really not grasping this whole "the Republicans refused to work together at all" thing.
 
2013-04-04 05:17:26 PM
It's a lost fight already, Farkers.  The polls already show that the American people know to blame the House GOP for this mess.
 
2013-04-04 05:23:17 PM
Sorry, but why do we need to treat every single cancer patient with expensive drugs? Its time to start invoking some "death panels" and have doctors decide which patients are the very best fits for these kind of treatments, and the rest of the cancer patients, the ones who have a much less chance of success - don't get the expensive treatments.
 
2013-04-04 05:35:22 PM

Blues_X: DownDaRiver: Save your retoric for for those like yourself that are blinded by your own false beliefs. That only you and what you believe could be right and therefore everyone else must be wrong


You're really not grasping this whole "the Republicans refused to work together at all" thing.


No, you're not really grasping that, that kind of thinking is the pervasive underlying problem of the whole issue

Which is to say, it is there fault for not doing it our way

Both sides, all sides, are equally guilty of that
They refused to just sit down and get the job done.
Each want it their way and no other way can it be done
 
2013-04-04 05:44:32 PM

Blues_X: DownDaRiver: Save your retoric for for those like yourself that are blinded by your own false beliefs. That only you and what you believe could be right and therefore everyone else must be wrong


You're really not grasping this whole "the Republicans refused to work together at all" thing.


That login is a party line GOP shill, with an extra dose of stupid if memory serves.
 
2013-04-04 05:49:52 PM

DownDaRiver: those like yourself that are blinded by your own false beliefs.


Its sounds like you see your critics are wrapped up like deuces...and that they may have rubber-ended knives. Or at least that's what I'm hearing.
 
2013-04-04 06:00:23 PM

Somacandra: DownDaRiver: those like yourself that are blinded by your own false beliefs.

Its sounds like you see your critics are wrapped up like deuces...and that they may have rubber-ended knives. Or at least that's what I'm hearing.


What?
I completely don't understand what that was upposed to mea
Is that a line out of a song
 
2013-04-04 06:03:36 PM
Isn't this the same thing that would happen if they repealed ObamaCare?
 
2013-04-04 06:15:07 PM
FlashHarry:

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T REFUSED TO PAY AMERICA'S BILLS IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.

Looks like you don't know what happened in the Summer of 2011.
Yelling just makes you look more ridiculous.
 
2013-04-04 06:18:22 PM
This is like those Halloween houses that end up being about Jesus, isn't it?
 
2013-04-04 06:59:56 PM

FlashHarry: THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T REFUSED TO PAY AMERICA'S BILLS IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.


More or less.  The GOP threatened a default without cuts.  The sequester was the ransom that the White House coughed up.  So, here we are.
 
2013-04-04 07:02:39 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Looks like you don't know what happened in the Summer of 2011.


Why don't you enlighten us?
 
2013-04-04 07:04:14 PM
Don't worry. McCain will still get his cancer treatments for that growth on his face.

/I think it was Canada who made an order to restore the production of a cancer drug, because the company making it stopped making it because not enough profit.
//Depending on where the cancer is, its not that bad. And if its bad, some time in your garage listing to the music while the car is running will take all that pain away forever.
 
2013-04-04 07:05:17 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: FlashHarry:

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T REFUSED TO PAY AMERICA'S BILLS IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.

Looks like you don't know what happened in the Summer of 2011.
Yelling just makes you look more ridiculous.


You were arrested for 2 counts of being a cupcake?
 
2013-04-04 07:08:49 PM
Looking at the sequester exemptions Medicare part D appears to be exempt. On Med D you can qualify for Low Income Cost Sharing (LICS), those who qualify for that typically receive medicaid as well. You have to have a decent amount of money not to qualify for Medicaid (e.g. enough to cover bills, housing, food). My sister-in-law's father qualified and he has a nice house, good pension plus social security. Medicaid pays out big time for these drugs and if they are LICS eligible, they pay reduced or no co-pays. It sounds like the clinics are butthurt to be honest.
 
2013-04-04 07:09:57 PM
Working together means compromise and agreeing to some of the other side's requests. Democrats came to the table with a  slew of budget cuts and asked for tax increases. . Republicans refused to offer any tax increases and demanded more cuts. That is not working together, and it sure as fark isn't both sides being equally bad. Stop farking trying to rewrite history.
 
2013-04-04 07:10:17 PM
This is what "cutting spending" looks like, geniuses.  Maybe you should pray to god to heal your illness.
 
2013-04-04 07:11:18 PM
Is this another time the GOP tries to blame the Dems for not giving in to their every demand and letting them rule the nation as a minority party?
 
2013-04-04 07:13:19 PM

Antimatter: Is this another time the GOP tries to blame the Dems for not giving in to their every demand and letting them rule the nation as a minority party?


Yep.
 
2013-04-04 07:13:35 PM

DownDaRiver: No, you're not really grasping that, that kind of thinking is the pervasive underlying problem of the whole issue

Which is to say, it is there fault for not doing it our way

Both sides, all sides, are equally guilty of that
They refused to just sit down and get the job done.
Each want it their way and no other way can it be done


If Democrats had their way, it would be tax increases only, and no cuts.  Yet the Democrats have offered to make cuts to social programs.  If Republicans had their way, it would be all cuts to programs, and no tax increases.  The Republicans have refused to offer any other plan.

But sure. In your world, both sides are bad.
 
2013-04-04 07:14:55 PM
This year, the federal government will spend roughly $4,000,000,000,000. If they aren't paying for cancer treatment, it isn't due to lack of funds.
 
2013-04-04 07:15:43 PM
I blame Democrats for the sequester. Come up with a better budget, idiots.
 
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2013-04-04 07:16:17 PM
it's all fun and games until boehner gets skin cancer....
 
2013-04-04 07:18:50 PM

DrPainMD: This year, the federal government will spend roughly $4,000,000,000,000. If they aren't paying for cancer treatment, it isn't due to lack of funds.


You mean a 2% budget cut isnt the end of the world after a 50% budget increase in less than 4 years?
 
2013-04-04 07:20:56 PM

DownDaRiver: Both sides, all sides, are equally guilty of that
They refused to just sit down and get the job done.
Each want it their way and no other way can it be done


Your haiku is bad
Better get back to work son
It's five, seven, five
 
2013-04-04 07:22:12 PM

A Midsummer Night's Toker: tenpoundsofcheese: Looks like you don't know what happened in the Summer of 2011.

Why don't you enlighten us?


Wouldn't he have to be enlightened first?
 
2013-04-04 07:22:56 PM

special20: MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: And here I thought there were no real consequences from the sequester, right Republicans?

I think this comes under the heading of "entitlement reform"

Oh, yeah - let's start by removing all the entitlements that our governmental representatives have. Take away their health care. Take away their retirement plans. Will we see how quickly things move thereafter?


There are no poor Congresscritters.  The least wealth of them is still rich.  They don't need their benefits, and if they lost them, likely wouldn't care much except for the fact that it would be an indicator of their having lost some of their power.

DownDaRiver: And if anyone out there thinks that one side is any more at fault than the other you are living in a fantasy day-dreaming world!
They are both at fault for not working together, doing ther jobs and working towards to needs and goals of this country and its people.
They are both self-serving egomaniacs


That's not the dumbest thing ever said on Fark, cause there's been some REALLY stupid shiat said here, but you're going strong, that's for sure.  Your post is no less dumb than, in a situation where a drunk driver hits a child playing on the child's own front yard, saying they're both equally at fault because the kid would have been fine if he'd stayed inside.
 
2013-04-04 07:28:19 PM
It's just like food stamps, giving patients treatments just encourages them to get sick again.

/it'd be ironic if the coolant for the F35 cures cancer
 
2013-04-04 07:28:21 PM

Emposter: special20:
Oh, yeah - let's start by removing all the entitlements that our governmental representatives have. Take away their health care. Take away their retirement plans. Will we see how quickly things move thereafter?

There are no poor Congresscritters.  The least wealth of them is still rich.  They don't need their benefits, and if they lost them, likely wouldn't care much except for the fact that it would be an indicator of their having lost some of their power.


Actually, there are *some* representatives that are not wealthy. I grew up with one kid whose dad was a US Senator, and they didn't have much to brag about outside of the fact he was a Senator. You can't just say they are all wealthy.. What would it mean anyway, if they were all wealthy and didn't need retirement plans, or health insurance because they are rich - yet they still take the entitlement? It says they suck, that's what.
 
2013-04-04 07:28:31 PM

A Midsummer Night's Toker: tenpoundsofcheese: Looks like you don't know what happened in the Summer of 2011.

Why don't you enlighten us?


Not my job.
Google it.
It is free.
Ignorance is expensive.
 
2013-04-04 07:28:45 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: FlashHarry:

THERE WOULD BE NO SEQUESTER IF REPUBLICANS HADN'T REFUSED TO PAY AMERICA'S BILLS IN THE SUMMER OF 2011.

Looks like you don't know what happened in the Summer of 2011.
Yelling just makes you look more ridiculous.


I know.

For the first time in the history of the United States, the majority party in The House refused to grant the Treasury the authority to pay for the bills The House itself already rung up.
 
2013-04-04 07:30:40 PM

I alone am best: DrPainMD: This year, the federal government will spend roughly $4,000,000,000,000. If they aren't paying for cancer treatment, it isn't due to lack of funds.

You mean a 2% budget cut isnt the end of the world after a 50% budget increase in less than 4 years?


Remember, it is only 2% cut on part of that budget.
And it is not as much a cut as it is a smaller increase from last year's bloated budget
(we are still going to spend more than last year)
 
2013-04-04 07:33:16 PM
Of course people are going to die if you cut funding by 2 percent. Cut it 4 percent and they'll start going after healthy people.
 
2013-04-04 07:34:02 PM
After an emergency meeting Tuesday, Vacirca's clinics decided that they would no longer see one-third of their 16,000 Medicare patients.

Sounds like an entitlement reform package that will get ~5000 people off Medicare and Social Security in the not to distant future.
 
2013-04-04 07:34:15 PM
What if Not receiving treatment for cancer was the cure for cancer.
 
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