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2013-04-04 11:01:58 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Irregardless: Now that Obama is in office he is making his own power grab.

You know how I know you didn't read the article or the thread?


Nobody told us we needed to read more than the headline.
 
2013-04-04 11:15:33 PM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.


Especially in any sort of historical context.
 
2013-04-04 11:21:05 PM  
All of these executive orders are necessary so that Barry doesn't have to show any real leadership in getting anything done.   Leading the country has cost our golfer in chief too many rounds at the links.  Just blame it on the republicans and yell "FORE!"
 
2013-04-05 12:29:58 AM  
I am usually very critical of executive orders because they are usually an abuse of power.  This time, I don't think that's the case.  This looks like, "I'm creating an commission to look into the best way to handle something that is a congressionally authorized duty of this office."  No problem.  Now if it were, "by executive order, I've made it a criminal offense to criticize this office", that would be an entirely different situation.
 
2013-04-05 12:30:42 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Irregardless: Now that Obama is in office he is making his own power grab.

You know how I know you didn't read the article or the thread?


Do tell. I didn't see any article. What article did I miss? I saw an innocuos executive order. I like his bolder moves.

From the NYT
They describe a paradoxical leader who shunned the legislative deal-making required to close the detention facility at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba, but approves lethal action without hand-wringing. While he was adamant about narrowing the fight and improving relations with the Muslim world, he has followed the metastasizing enemy into new and dangerous lands. When he applies his lawyering skills to counterterrorism, it is usually to enable, not constrain, his ferocious campaign against Al Qaeda - even when it comes to killing an American cleric in Yemen, a decision that Mr. Obama told colleagues was "an easy one."

NYT again
A few sharp-eyed observers inside and outside the government understood what the public did not. Without showing his hand, Mr. Obama had preserved three major policies - rendition, military commissions and indefinite detention - that have been targets of human rights groups since the 2001 terrorist attacks.
 
2013-04-05 12:40:17 AM  

toddism: most people are idiots and/or grossly uninformed and should not be allowed to vote.

do you really want the guy or gal serving burgers at the braves game voting?  do you really want honey booboo's sperm donor or mom voting? the answer is no.


You should feel bad about yourself for that.
 
2013-04-05 01:25:48 AM  

toddism: most people are idiots and/or grossly uninformed and should not be allowed to vote.

do you really want the guy or gal serving burgers at the braves game voting?  do you really want honey booboo's sperm donor or mom voting? the answer is no.


Better them than self important elitist assholes who know what's best for me.  You know.  People like you.
 
2013-04-05 07:05:23 AM  
Hi, I'm Mr. Tiny Minority. I detest executive orders. By that, I mean all of them. Instead of sitting on my hands for eight years while a drydrunk established a police state with a stream of egregious orders, then shrieking with outrage at every executive order of a socialist blah man, even the fairly innocuous ones.
 
2013-04-05 07:14:38 AM  
I agree with part of the argument above.  When I go to stores such as Walmart I see people of all colors and sizes and I do mean all sizes , wear pajamas in public.  They weigh three hundred pounds.  They have spent enough money on body art to feed a family of six for two months.  They pull out the bridge card to pay with their missing tooth grin.

Do I think that they are worthy of an equal vote?  My answer is Hell No!  They will vote for the person that will give them a spot in the free cupcake line and nothing more.  They will not pay attention to the really important issues that keep this country free and prosperous.  All that they care about is if the check is there at the beginning of the month.

Do I think that they should have the right to that equal vote taken away?  Do I think that there should be a tax to weed out the weak?  My answer is still Hell NO!  Neither I nor any other person or government entity have the right to do so.  There might be people that hold criteria pertinent to me as incapable of making an electoral decision.
 
2013-04-05 07:17:44 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Not unless you think that one race is smarter than another.  I'm advocating a standard of intellect / knowledge.  You aren't suggesting that one race is smarter than the other, are you?

I'm suggesting that such a thing has inherently racist roots. We got rid of them because they are discriminatory. They still are. If they were such a bad idea that they needed to be farking outlawed, they are still that bad an idea. Someone, such as yourself, suggesting that such a 'test' would be a good idea is the kind of thinking that leads us back to the 'good ol days'. We don't need that kind of thinking in America. Go fark yourself.


So you're saying that blacks would perform more poorly on a test of basic knowledge than whites.  That's kinda racist of you.  Congrats!
 
2013-04-05 07:18:43 AM  

autopsybeverage: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Especially in any sort of historical context.


Because we should always live in the past.

I believe that all races have had access to books for quite awhile now.
 
2013-04-05 07:54:30 AM  

Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Not unless you think that one race is smarter than another.  I'm advocating a standard of intellect / knowledge.  You aren't suggesting that one race is smarter than the other, are you?

I'm suggesting that such a thing has inherently racist roots. We got rid of them because they are discriminatory. They still are. If they were such a bad idea that they needed to be farking outlawed, they are still that bad an idea. Someone, such as yourself, suggesting that such a 'test' would be a good idea is the kind of thinking that leads us back to the 'good ol days'. We don't need that kind of thinking in America. Go fark yourself.

So you're saying that blacks would perform more poorly on a test of basic knowledge than whites.  That's kinda racist of you.  Congrats!


Thanks for putting non-existent words in my mouth. Nothing in what I wrote says anything close to what you said. It is irrelevant what the results of such a test would be, the idea of such a test has racist roots and anyone who can't recognize or acknowledge that and admit that such a thing is a really terrible idea is either incredibly stupid or... lacking a better explanation, racist. Congrats on being one of those two things.
 
2013-04-05 07:56:06 AM  

Silly Jesus: autopsybeverage: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Especially in any sort of historical context.

Because we should always live in the past.

I believe that all races have had access to books for quite awhile now.


says the guy who wants to implement a policy from the past. *rolls eyes*
 
2013-04-05 08:10:14 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Not unless you think that one race is smarter than another.  I'm advocating a standard of intellect / knowledge.  You aren't suggesting that one race is smarter than the other, are you?

I'm suggesting that such a thing has inherently racist roots. We got rid of them because they are discriminatory. They still are. If they were such a bad idea that they needed to be farking outlawed, they are still that bad an idea. Someone, such as yourself, suggesting that such a 'test' would be a good idea is the kind of thinking that leads us back to the 'good ol days'. We don't need that kind of thinking in America. Go fark yourself.

So you're saying that blacks would perform more poorly on a test of basic knowledge than whites.  That's kinda racist of you.  Congrats!

Thanks for putting non-existent words in my mouth. Nothing in what I wrote says anything close to what you said. It is irrelevant what the results of such a test would be, the idea of such a test has racist roots and anyone who can't recognize or acknowledge that and admit that such a thing is a really terrible idea is either incredibly stupid or... lacking a better explanation, racist. Congrats on being one of those two things.


Why do the roots still matter now?  I want to cull the stupid people.  There's only one reason that culling the stupid people would trigger a race discussion from you....I wonder what that reason could be?  Congrats, you're a racist.
 
2013-04-05 08:12:27 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: autopsybeverage: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Especially in any sort of historical context.

Because we should always live in the past.

I believe that all races have had access to books for quite awhile now.

says the guy who wants to implement a policy from the past. *rolls eyes*


It has nothing to do with the past.  You keep bringing that in to it.  In the past it was racially motivated and it worked because we didn't give blacks access to schools or books.  That's not the case anymore, so I don't see how you're drawing a parallel.  You're bringing in an irrelevant issue.
 
2013-04-05 08:53:56 AM  

Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: autopsybeverage: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Especially in any sort of historical context.

Because we should always live in the past.

I believe that all races have had access to books for quite awhile now.

says the guy who wants to implement a policy from the past. *rolls eyes*

It has nothing to do with the past.  You keep bringing that in to it.  In the past it was racially motivated and it worked because we didn't give blacks access to schools or books.  That's not the case anymore, so I don't see how you're drawing a parallel.  You're bringing in an irrelevant issue.


If you can't recognize that a policy with racist roots is still inherently discriminatory... regardless of what it is that is being discriminated against... then you are beyond help. A lunatic can know American history and vote, but a person well versed in the issues of today that may not know the 'nuts and bolts' of our system of government can't?  Why is that a good idea? Someone who can pass the citizen test who think the government is run by lizard people can vote, but a hard working single mom who's a bit too busy trying to raise her children and get by to study civics can't?

It's good to know that you are advocating a distinctly anti-American policy. Congratulations.
 
2013-04-05 09:05:59 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: autopsybeverage: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Especially in any sort of historical context.

Because we should always live in the past.

I believe that all races have had access to books for quite awhile now.

says the guy who wants to implement a policy from the past. *rolls eyes*

It has nothing to do with the past.  You keep bringing that in to it.  In the past it was racially motivated and it worked because we didn't give blacks access to schools or books.  That's not the case anymore, so I don't see how you're drawing a parallel.  You're bringing in an irrelevant issue.

If you can't recognize that a policy with racist roots is still inherently discriminatory... regardless of what it is that is being discriminated against... then you are beyond help. A lunatic can know American history and vote, but a person well versed in the issues of today that may not know the 'nuts and bolts' of our system of government can't?  Why is that a good idea? Someone who can pass the citizen test who think the government is run by lizard people can vote, but a hard working single mom who's a bit too busy trying to raise her children and get by to study civics can't?

It's good to know that you are advocating a distinctly anti-American policy. Congratulations.


It doesn't have racist roots.  Just because people once used tests to discriminate against those that they didn't allow to learn to read doesn't mean that in this day and age when that no longer occurs that a test is the same policy or based on the same thing.  That's completely asinine.  I hope that you are just being disingenuous and aren't actually that potato.

Also, if, as you say, a single mother is too busy to learn that there are three branches of government, she is also probably too busy to learn enough about the issues to make an informed decision in the voting booth.  Thank you for making my argument for me.

Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American.  You are what's wrong with this country.
 
2013-04-05 09:25:21 AM  

Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.


Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.
 
2013-04-05 09:35:42 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.


Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.
 
2013-04-05 09:37:39 AM  
People applying for citizenship have to take a test.  Some of the questions might be silly, but they are still important.  Maybe we need to give this same test out for voter registration.  If you can't score a 70% on this then you have no business voting.  http://cltr.co.douglas.nv.us/Elections/100QuestionTest.htm
 
2013-04-05 09:50:21 AM  
 
2013-04-05 09:57:25 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.


basing your vote on marriage equality (pro or against) is just as stupid is basing your vote on abortion (pro or against).
 
2013-04-05 10:07:14 AM  

toddism: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

basing your vote on marriage equality (pro or against) is just as stupid is basing your vote on abortion (pro or against).


Way to miss the point.
 
2013-04-05 10:08:30 AM  

Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.


Giving up was really your only move. Here, I'll toss you a really long rope to climb out of that massive hole you dug yourself into.
 
2013-04-05 10:10:08 AM  
They should study up on how we do it in Denver... maybe it's the whole state, not sure.

About a month before the election I get my blue book in the mail explaining everything up for vote as well as pros and cons given by both sides and the impact it will have on the economy. I read it at my leisure. About a week before early voting begins I get my ballot in the mail. I fill it out at my leisure. Early voting begins and I drop it off at one of the many voting stations that are on my way to work. Heck, I don;t even have to get out of the car! It's freakin great.
 
2013-04-05 10:19:34 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.

Giving up was really your only move. Here, I'll toss you a really long rope to climb out of that massive hole you dug yourself into.


Just keep patting yourself on the back and thinking that you're intelligent.
 
2013-04-05 10:27:54 AM  

Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.

Giving up was really your only move. Here, I'll toss you a really long rope to climb out of that massive hole you dug yourself into.

Just keep patting yourself on the back and thinking that you're intelligent.


If that were what I was doing, it would still be far better than advocating a discriminatory policy in America. Please proceed.
 
2013-04-05 10:32:17 AM  
No Service, no vote. "Service Means Citizenship!"


Do you want to know more?
 
2013-04-05 10:34:14 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.

Giving up was really your only move. Here, I'll toss you a really long rope to climb out of that massive hole you dug yourself into.

Just keep patting yourself on the back and thinking that you're intelligent.

If that were what I was doing, it would still be far better than advocating a discriminatory policy in America. Please proceed.


America is full of discriminatory policies.  The blind can't drive.  Felons can't have guns.  Etc.  I just want to add one.  Stupid people can't vote.
 
2013-04-05 10:40:43 AM  

Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.

Giving up was really your only move. Here, I'll toss you a really long rope to climb out of that massive hole you dug yourself into.

Just keep patting yourself on the back and thinking that you're intelligent.

If that were what I was doing, it would still be far better than advocating a discriminatory policy in America. Please proceed.

America is full of discriminatory policies.  The blind can't drive.  Felons can't have guns.  Etc.  I just want to add one.  Stupid people can't vote.


Link
 
2013-04-05 11:00:12 AM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.

Giving up was really your only move. Here, I'll toss you a really long rope to climb out of that massive hole you dug yourself into.

Just keep patting yourself on the back and thinking that you're intelligent.

If that were what I was doing, it would still be far better than advocating a discriminatory policy in America. Please proceed.

America is full of discriminatory policies.  The blind can't drive.  Felons can't have guns.  Etc.  I just want to add one.  Stupid people can't vote.

Link


Oh, you think that voting in federal elections is a right.  Lol.

Furthermore, even for other levels of elections, rules can change.  Durr.
 
2013-04-05 11:35:13 AM  

Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.

Giving up was really your only move. Here, I'll toss you a really long rope to climb out of that massive hole you dug yourself into.

Just keep patting yourself on the back and thinking that you're intelligent.

If that were what I was doing, it would still be far better than advocating a discriminatory policy in America. Please proceed.

America is full of discriminatory policies.  The blind can't drive.  Felons can't have guns.  Etc.  I just want to add one.  Stupid people can't vote.

Link

Oh, you think that voting in federal elections is a right.  Lol.

Furthermore, even for other levels of elections, rules can change.  Durr.


I really hope you get involved in politics.  I want the GOP to draft you as their candidate in the next presidential election, because I think you have some wonderful ideas that will make the party more popular.  Do you have a PAC that I can contribute to?
 
2013-04-05 12:18:45 PM  

Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: Glad that you think and informed and intelligent electorate is anti-American. You are what's wrong with this country.

Thinking that a small group of people can come up with a 'test' that decides what it means for someone to qualify as 'informed and intelligent' is what is anti-American. You are, quite clearly, the problem. People can discuss issues at the water cooler or during lunch and become informed. I'm trying to remember the last time the line of succession of the presidency was discussed in such an environment. Knowing the structure of our government has literally ZERO to do with someone being part of an informed electorate. WTF does knowing three branches of government or how a bill becomes a law or how vetos work have a goddamn thing to do with someone who think marriage equality is a pretty important thing to support or who think that we spend too much on our military? You are a train wreck of an American. May God have mercy on your soul.

Haha.  You're almost as good as spent miles.  You've earned the coveted pink 3 "Potato" ranking nonetheless.

Giving up was really your only move. Here, I'll toss you a really long rope to climb out of that massive hole you dug yourself into.

Just keep patting yourself on the back and thinking that you're intelligent.

If that were what I was doing, it would still be far better than advocating a discriminatory policy in America. Please proceed.

America is full of discriminatory policies.  The blind can't drive.  Felons can't have guns.  Etc.  I just want to add one.  Stupid people can't vote.

Link

Oh, you think that voting in federal elections is a right.  Lol.

Furthermore, even for other levels of elections, rules can change.  Durr.


Serioiusly, I think you can make a huge difference in how America views conservatism.  I don't want to merely subscribe to your newsletter, I want to fund it, and make sure that you become the face of modern conservatism, because with you as a spokesman, it will die a quick but painless death.

Make sure to talk about rape as much as possible.  It's a winning strategy.  Trust me.
 
2013-04-05 12:20:08 PM  

Silly Jesus: Durr.


Poor little guy. **pats head**
 
2013-04-05 12:24:19 PM  

theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: autopsybeverage: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Especially in any sort of historical context.

Because we should always live in the past.

I believe that all races have had access to books for quite awhile now.

says the guy who wants to implement a policy from the past. *rolls eyes*

It has nothing to do with the past.  You keep bringing that in to it.  In the past it was racially motivated and it worked because we didn't give blacks access to schools or books.  That's not the case anymore, so I don't see how you're drawing a parallel.  You're bringing in an irrelevant issue.

If you can't recognize that a policy with racist roots is still inherently discriminatory... regardless of what it is that is being discriminated against... then you are beyond help. A lunatic can know American history and vote, but a person well versed in the issues of today that may not know the 'nuts and bolts' of our system of government can't?  Why is that a good idea? Someone who can pass the citizen test who think the government is run by lizard people can vote, but a hard working single mom who's a bit too busy trying to raise her children and get by to study civics can't?

It's good to know that you are advocating a distinctly anti-American policy. Congratulations.


Men and women whose skidmarks had more value than you were persecuted, beaten, raped, and killed in their quest to stop literal fascists like you from systematically disenfranchising millions of Americans through "literacy tests." Education in this country is still segregated, educational opportunities are not equal, and literacy tests have always, wherever they have been introduced, been deliberately crafted to keep the "undesirables" from voting.

May your legacy last not a single generation. May all your works die with you, may your name be forgotten, and may your seed lay cold in the furrow.
 
2013-04-05 12:37:37 PM  
Before voting against the [1965 voting rights] bill, Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, who had switched his party affiliation from Democrat to Republican in September 1964, eulogized the Senate as the "final resting place of the Constitution and the rule of law, for it is here that they will have been buried with shovels of emotion under piles of expediency, in the year of our Lord, 1965."

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/highwayhistory/road/s38.cfm">http://www.fhwa .dot.gov/highwayhistory/road/s38.cfm
 
2013-04-05 01:26:13 PM  
Um guys? You are aware that Silly Jesus is just a troll? Please update accordingly?
inb4....anything.
 
2013-04-05 03:41:34 PM  

captainktainer: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: autopsybeverage: theknuckler_33: Silly Jesus: whidbey: Oh look, 5 years later and subby's still hurt.

Black man in the White House, everybody! Better run!

Race card nonsense didn't take long.  Good job.

Because advocating a form of poll tax/eligibility test has no basis in race at all.

Especially in any sort of historical context.

Because we should always live in the past.

I believe that all races have had access to books for quite awhile now.

says the guy who wants to implement a policy from the past. *rolls eyes*

It has nothing to do with the past.  You keep bringing that in to it.  In the past it was racially motivated and it worked because we didn't give blacks access to schools or books.  That's not the case anymore, so I don't see how you're drawing a parallel.  You're bringing in an irrelevant issue.

If you can't recognize that a policy with racist roots is still inherently discriminatory... regardless of what it is that is being discriminated against... then you are beyond help. A lunatic can know American history and vote, but a person well versed in the issues of today that may not know the 'nuts and bolts' of our system of government can't?  Why is that a good idea? Someone who can pass the citizen test who think the government is run by lizard people can vote, but a hard working single mom who's a bit too busy trying to raise her children and get by to study civics can't?

It's good to know that you are advocating a distinctly anti-American policy. Congratulations.

Men and women whose skidmarks had more value than you were persecuted, beaten, raped, and killed in their quest to stop literal fascists like you from systematically disenfranchising millions of Americans through "literacy tests." Education in this country is still segregated, educational opportunities are not equal, and literacy tests have always, wherever they have been introduced, been deliberately crafted to keep the "unde ...


Your platform is stupid people voting.  Congrats.
 
2013-04-05 05:11:15 PM  

Silly Jesus: Your platform is stupid people voting. Congrats.


I'd rather have the platform of "stupid" people voting than fascists like you arbitrarily deciding who should and should not vote.
 
2013-04-05 05:42:27 PM  

Eshman: Silly Jesus: Your platform is stupid people voting. Congrats.

I'd rather have the platform of "stupid" people voting than fascists like you arbitrarily deciding who should and should not vote.



Brilliant.  You. Are, Brilliant.
 
2013-04-07 03:59:04 PM  
At least y'all gave a shiat when Bush did it.
 
2013-04-08 05:23:12 PM  

Silly Jesus: Your platform is stupid people voting. Congrats.


The irony of it all is that based on your posts here and elsewhere, you yourself would almost certainly be disenfranchised by the policy you are proposing.
 
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