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(Mother Nature Network)   Scooter companies may be swindling the nation's seniors. Those rascals   (mnn.com) divider line 79
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2013-04-04 02:47:38 PM
Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...
 
2013-04-04 03:07:28 PM

IgG4: Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...


THIS
 
2013-04-04 03:11:36 PM
What most people don't know is that if you become disabled you can't get medicare for 2 1/2 years.
Powerchairs are outrageously overpriced and regular insurance companies make you pay a very large portion.
My wheelchair costs about $11,000 new (but it's fast as hell). Did a little searching around and found mine on craigslist for $500.
Seniors are easily fooled in to buying things they don't need and voting for politicians who make things worse.

/we drag race wheelchairs for the hell of it
//smokes tires
///speed costs...how fast ya wanna go
 
2013-04-04 03:23:42 PM
DAMN YOU FARTBAMA
 
2013-04-04 03:24:28 PM
AT LITTLE OR NO COST TO YOU

/Taxpayers are getting swindled.
 
2013-04-04 03:26:03 PM

IgG4: Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...


Yup, and a very large portion don't need them. I've been approached by more than a few of my patients asking for the script for one, when the only reason they have limited mobility is massive obesity.

I don't mind writing for the diabetic who has neuropathy, the guy with two bad knees who can't walk, the chronic pain patient who has a junkyard's worth of metal in his spine, but someone who's 450# and just doesn't want to walk?

No. Get out.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-04 03:26:15 PM
HOVERROUND-ROUND-ROUND-ROUND

Go ahead and drive off that cliff, grandma...
 
2013-04-04 03:27:23 PM
I'll just hover around untill this all blows over.
 
2013-04-04 03:27:47 PM
Scooty Puff Jr. suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.............
 
2013-04-04 03:28:28 PM
Obamascooters!

I knew it!  This all started with Taxbongo.
 
2013-04-04 03:28:57 PM
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2013-04-04 03:30:03 PM
Don't believe a word of it.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some vacuum cleaners to deliver this afternoon.
 
2013-04-04 03:30:06 PM
Durable Medical Equipment providers have quite the racket going on.  Don't get me wrong, some DME providers are perfectly decent, but it's the easiest practice to get into for scamming Medicare (and even some private insurances).  It ends up making my job harder every year as someone who does support for a billing platform because it means that CMS keeps updating the DME billing rules to be more and more precise each year.

It's not helping that much.
 
2013-04-04 03:30:43 PM
Wow, now I'm really in the mood for some Allstate insurance.
 
2013-04-04 03:31:18 PM
jehovahs witness protection:

/we drag race wheelchairs for the hell of it
//smokes tires
///speed costs...how fast ya wanna go


www.abccustomprints.com
 
2013-04-04 03:31:20 PM
i306.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-04 03:31:35 PM
Obama is ripping off taxpayers AND wants to take seniors' scooters away!!
Also taking your guns and giving them to the gays and Mexicans!
 
2013-04-04 03:34:02 PM
Tea Party Protest in 5...4...3...
 
2013-04-04 03:34:05 PM

IgG4: Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...


Once more this.
 
2013-04-04 03:34:18 PM
I'd be curious to see what average life expectancy is after getting a "fatty scoot jr".

Anybody know of any studies on this?
 
2013-04-04 03:35:53 PM

cubic_spleen: Tea Party Protest in 5...4...3...


They fix the Hoveround scam, and there won't BE any Tea Party protesters leaving the house.
 
2013-04-04 03:35:55 PM
Before my Mother in law passed, she had one of those. Said she hated it. When she went to go live with my sisster in law, she left it at her house. Mt brother in law asked me if I wanted it. "For what?". Left it there. Not worth taking, even for hobby parts.
 
2013-04-04 03:36:09 PM
First I murdered Jim Henson. Then I waited 23 years to kill his wife Jane to avoid suspicion.

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2013-04-04 03:38:54 PM
Was the OBVIOUS tag stuck at home with a worthless cane?
 
2013-04-04 03:39:50 PM
Old people, though slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can serve a purpose.
 
2013-04-04 03:41:57 PM
I love seeing a line of ornery lardos griping about a store not having enough anti-walking devices.

True story: One fat ass started saying another fat ass was too skinny to need one.
 
2013-04-04 03:42:16 PM
Medicare pays for these?

kidsonroll.com

I had no idea.
 
2013-04-04 03:42:24 PM
I keep thinking that someday I'll buy like 4-6 of those things used, mount Nerf weapons and cardboard armor on them and have a life action Car Wars game.
 
2013-04-04 03:42:35 PM

cubic_spleen: Tea Party Protest in 5...4...3...


You can't be saying this stuff.  Because the more I hear about how the post WWII generation of retirees screwed up the world, then you add in this tea party stuff, I'm tempted to run for office and take down the budget gaps by taking seniors out of the equation.  I'm running on the "Old People: F*ck 'em" ticket
 
2013-04-04 03:43:13 PM
My grandmother just got one of these. I think she got ripped off, because they upsold her on robot insurance. I think it pays out if a robot breaks into her house and consumes her pills, which they use for fuel.
 
2013-04-04 03:43:26 PM

Sword and Shield: IgG4: Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...

Yup, and a very large portion don't need them. I've been approached by more than a few of my patients asking for the script for one, when the only reason they have limited mobility is massive obesity.

I don't mind writing for the diabetic who has neuropathy, the guy with two bad knees who can't walk, the chronic pain patient who has a junkyard's worth of metal in his spine, but someone who's 450# and just doesn't want to walk?

No. Get out.


How is this (article) indicative of wrongdoing by the manufacturer?  The only "damning" thing I read was:
(FTA) Company reps sometimes accompany seniors to their doctor appointments to "clinch the deal."

I tip my hat to you, Sword and Shield, for the position you appear to take on the matter.
 
2013-04-04 03:43:26 PM
I hadn't realized how pervasive the things were until I went to the grocery store on saturday and was surrounded by the things. farkers are blocking entire aisles and shiat, making it hard to get the things I need.
 
2013-04-04 03:43:57 PM

Slaves2Darkness: I keep thinking that someday I'll buy like 4-6 of those things used, mount Nerf weapons and cardboard armor on them and have a life action Car Wars game.


If we can try scooter-jousting with broomsticks, then I'm in.
 
2013-04-04 03:45:06 PM
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-04-04 03:47:43 PM

emersonbiggins: Don't believe a word of it.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some vacuum cleaners to deliver this afternoon.


We used to have a vacuum sales co. next door to our business. they would offer customers an insane amount in trade for their current vacuums. Customers would forget that the vacuum they were buying was way over priced. The sales men would then bring the old vacuum out into the parking lot and have fun smashing it to bits.

for years after they left old folks would show up looking for belts and filters.
 
2013-04-04 03:47:58 PM
singleblink.files.wordpress.com

Well, obviously!
 
2013-04-04 03:53:25 PM

Mad Scientist: [farm9.staticflickr.com image 600x375]


I have the strangest boner...
 
2013-04-04 03:56:23 PM
 
2013-04-04 03:56:39 PM

IgG4: Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...


THIS THIS THIS
 
2013-04-04 03:58:27 PM
And they don't tell the seniors that the scooters require quarters to operate:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liEXSOiURY8
 
2013-04-04 04:00:48 PM
I read 'swindling' as "dwindling" and thought, "Yeah!!!"  Death panels FTW
 
2013-04-04 04:03:58 PM
Odd Bird:
How is this (article) indicative of wrongdoing by the manufacturer?  The only "damning" thing I read was:
(FTA) Company reps sometimes accompany seniors to their doctor appointments to "clinch the deal."


Watch the ad.  They are pushing the product to people who feel they don't need one nor think they would qualify.  Further they will advocate to the insurer on your behalf.
 
2013-04-04 04:04:57 PM
As Palin launches into her Ronald Reagan impression - "Government's not the solution! Government's the problem!" - the person sitting next to me leans over and explains.

"The scooters are because of Medicare," he whispers helpfully. "They have these commercials down here: 'You won't even have to pay for your scooter! Medicare will pay!' Practically everyone in Kentucky has one."
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-04 04:06:59 PM
It sounds to me more like the scooter riding tea partyers are swindling taxpayers.
 
2013-04-04 04:07:39 PM

germ78: I hadn't realized how pervasive the things were until I went to the grocery store on saturday and was surrounded by the things. farkers are blocking entire aisles and shiat, making it hard to get the things I need.


As opposed to these slow fat people if they didn't have scooters?  And then they smell like sweat.  And right at that moment where you say, 'well, maybe they wouldn't go to the store as often' it goes from being a lazyman's tool to an actual medical accommodation.  (I've got a friend who lives in a wheelchair because of health problems.  He needs a van with hand controllers.  You know all the hoops you have to jump through to get some of these things?)  His wife has a scooter.  (Tiny thing, not an ounce of fat).  She can walk without it, but has limited mobility, and she can drive the family van because it's set up for his hand controls.

Medically, lot's of things we take are conveniences.  I can limp through the day without ibuprofen, but I'll get a lot less done and suffer a lot of the day.  I could go without my acid blocker, but I'd have to eat a restricted diet and still would get a fair amount of heartburn.  I'm a heavy guy (still doing okay on my diet), with heel spurs.  I can get around most days, but there are certainly times I don't go places because of my feet.  Medically, well, there is no medical reason for me to go to the park, but it's nice, and on bad days medically I can't do it.  The thing is though, medically, scooters are a slippery slope for fat people.  I push myself to do more, because when I stop pushing I'll put on more weight.  (Orthopedic shoes have helped a lot, not covered by my government health plan though, so that's a big out of pocket expense).

So, if the scooter gets you out of the house more often, where does it fall on that line?  Certainly you want to encourage people to be physically active if they can.  I've got fat friends who weren't that heavy until they got injured.  Once your hurt, fat makes it harder to get healthy again.  Maybe for heavy people who want a scooter we should make it contingent on also enrolling in wellness classes and physical therapy (again, something that we skimp on...  I messed up my shoulder a few years back.  I could barely lift my arm.  They paid for 6 months of useless PT before finally paying for the surgery (which largely fixed the problem) but only paid for an additional month of PT after the surgery.
 
2013-04-04 04:12:28 PM

Sword and Shield: IgG4: Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...

Yup, and a very large portion don't need them. I've been approached by more than a few of my patients asking for the script for one, when the only reason they have limited mobility is massive obesity.

I don't mind writing for the diabetic who has neuropathy, the guy with two bad knees who can't walk, the chronic pain patient who has a junkyard's worth of metal in his spine, but someone who's 450# and just doesn't want to walk?

No. Get out.


I hope you use past health history and not just weight for that determination. My dad is a hefty guy, but he got that way in part due to severe asthma that has hospitalized him a number of times. He has also had multiple knee surgeries.

We rented one of those chairs for him at a recent amusement park outing. Pricey at $50 for the day, but it did help him keep up with the grand kids a little better.
 
2013-04-04 04:16:38 PM

Walker: IgG4: Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...

THIS


Here's an idea...

Scale back Medicare benefits and increase Social Security benefits. It'll put more money into the pockets of seniors and introduces some more "market forces" into the disaster that is our healthcare system.
 
2013-04-04 04:17:28 PM

SundaesChild: Sword and Shield: IgG4: Swindling the taxpayer is more like it. Medicare pays for most of those things...

Yup, and a very large portion don't need them. I've been approached by more than a few of my patients asking for the script for one, when the only reason they have limited mobility is massive obesity.

I don't mind writing for the diabetic who has neuropathy, the guy with two bad knees who can't walk, the chronic pain patient who has a junkyard's worth of metal in his spine, but someone who's 450# and just doesn't want to walk?

No. Get out.

I hope you use past health history and not just weight for that determination. My dad is a hefty guy, but he got that way in part due to severe asthma that has hospitalized him a number of times. He has also had multiple knee surgeries.

We rented one of those chairs for him at a recent amusement park outing. Pricey at $50 for the day, but it did help him keep up with the grand kids a little better.


Of course I do. Hence the first couple examples.

Yeah, being sick puts on weight. I accept that, but the problem patients are the ones who were never really sick. I had one last week, completely clean medical history. Guy worked as a truck driver, weighs about 390. There is no reason he can't walk, no reason he has to be that heavy. He just chooses to be.

He wanted a scooter. I turned it down. If there's a reason you can't walk, okay. Just because you don't want to? Get out.
 
2013-04-04 04:42:49 PM
Those are power wheelchairs. THESE are scooters:

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www.punjabigraphics.com

www.cycleconnections.com

www.streetsideauto.com

www.myindiapictures.com

farm8.staticflickr.com

www.scooter-sidecars.com

www.berniesautocenter.com

www.thepetproductguru.com
 
2013-04-04 04:42:56 PM
i.imgur.com
'Murica, fark yeah!
 
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