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(Huffington Post)   Ragin' Cajun joins Hillary PAC. "I'm not going to waste my time writing you about how great Hillary is or how formidable she'd be - you know it all already"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 85
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2013-04-04 12:20:37 PM
I can't stand the man's politics, but I still love me some Carville.


I dont want to, but I do
 
2013-04-04 12:29:50 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I can't stand the man's politics, but I still love me some Carville.


I dont want to, but I do


He probably has a really crazy sex life with his wife.
 
2013-04-04 12:32:52 PM
Despicable man with despicable political tactics. Our whole atmosphere of no-compromise, sneaky politics and lies has a direct line tracing to him. He's not the only one, but he's a founding father.
 
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2013-04-04 12:55:40 PM
Has anyone noticed that he is a lizard man?
 
2013-04-04 12:57:16 PM
We're never going to get an actual progressive president, are we?
 
2013-04-04 01:09:07 PM
Carville is a slimy wart of a hack, and his wife is even worse for the other team. They disgust me.
 
2013-04-04 01:18:17 PM
I have a feeling that the same thing will happen to Hillary Clinton in 2016 that happened to her in 2008: she'll treat the nomination process as her coronation, feeling that she should just be handed the nomination, and she'll be out-campaigned by someone else.

Hopefully, this time, she doesn't start trying to sabotage that candidate's campaign when it becomes apparent that he or she (I have a feeling it could be Elizabeth Warren, actually) is the actual choice for the party.
 
2013-04-04 01:19:54 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I can't stand the man's politics, but I still love me some Carville.


I dont want to, but I do

He probably has a really crazy sex life with his wife.


img828.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-04 01:20:39 PM
I like him better as Stefan, gay club promoter.
 
2013-04-04 01:22:01 PM

eraser8: We're never going to get an actual progressive president, are we?


Probably not.  Corporations and the super rich do not donate to progressive candidates.  Unless there's a grassroots movement that I don't even think the US is capable of...  no serious progressive candidates.
 
2013-04-04 01:22:50 PM
 "I'm not going to waste my time writing you about how great Hillary is or how formidable she'd be - you know it all already"

Instead, how about we talk about how old she is and how tired she looks.
 
2013-04-04 01:27:31 PM

Loucifer: Instead, how about we talk about how old she is and how tired she looks.


It worked against McCain.
 
2013-04-04 01:28:15 PM
i say this in every hillary thread, i don't think she'll win.  look at myrth york, she tried at least 3 times to become governor.  In rhode island, we're pretty liberal here and she was running as a democrat, and she still lost to some lame brained republican asshole that wasted the states whole stimulus package on some crappy game company.

and frankly the right has been ready to fight hillary for a long time, they'd be thrilled to run against a woman who's husband cheats on her.  the prevalent soft racism of today's america is i think less prevalent that the soft-sexism, and we'll lose more left leaning voters that don't care about hillary then we'll win right leaning voters that want a woman president.
 
2013-04-04 01:31:57 PM

Earguy: Despicable man with despicable political tactics. Our whole atmosphere of no-compromise, sneaky politics and lies has a direct line tracing to him. He's not the only one, but he's a founding father.


this

vernonFL: Carville is a slimy wart of a hack, and his wife is even worse for the other team. They disgust me.


and this too...
 
2013-04-04 01:32:57 PM

Antifun: we'll lose more left leaning voters that don't care about hillary then we'll win right leaning voters that want a woman president.


I seriously doubt it. What are they going to do, stay at home? Vote Republican? With someone like Rick Santorum as the nominee? Not a chance.
 
2013-04-04 01:35:40 PM

Antifun: i say this in every hillary thread, i don't think she'll win.  look at myrth york, she tried at least 3 times to become governor.  In rhode island, we're pretty liberal here and she was running as a democrat, and she still lost to some lame brained republican asshole that wasted the states whole stimulus package on some crappy game company.

and frankly the right has been ready to fight hillary for a long time, they'd be thrilled to run against a woman who's husband cheats on her.  the prevalent soft racism of today's america is i think less prevalent that the soft-sexism, and we'll lose more left leaning voters that don't care about hillary then we'll win right leaning voters that want a woman president.


Do you take current polling into your assessment?

www.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-04-04 01:36:27 PM

Antifun: and frankly the right has been ready to fight hillary for a long time, they'd be thrilled to run against a woman who's husband cheats on her.  the prevalent soft racism of today's america is i think less prevalent that the soft-sexism, and we'll lose more left leaning voters that don't care about hillary then we'll win right leaning voters that want a woman president.


There's also that "No more Clintons, no more Bushes" thing that seems to be in vogue.  If that message picks up traction it could cause Democratic voters to stay home.
 
2013-04-04 01:41:17 PM

Mercutio74: eraser8: We're never going to get an actual progressive president, are we?

Probably not.  Corporations and the super rich do not donate to progressive candidates.  Unless there's a grassroots movement that I don't even think the US is capable of...  no serious progressive candidates.


Warren, watch out for Warren
 
2013-04-04 01:44:22 PM
Looks like I'm gonna need to get drunk enough to register Democrat.

/closed primary
//vote no twice
 
2013-04-04 01:52:00 PM
clinton/warren ticket

that would be fun
 
2013-04-04 01:53:25 PM
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Approves

/mon ami!
 
2013-04-04 01:53:34 PM

Ned Stark: Looks like I'm gonna need to get drunk enough to register Democrat.

/closed primary
//vote no twice


Or let her win the primary and Vote Republican?

Who is currently better Rubio or Christie?
 
2013-04-04 02:09:18 PM

Earguy: Despicable man with despicable political tactics. Our whole atmosphere of no-compromise, sneaky politics and lies has a direct line tracing to him. He's not the only one, but he's a founding father.


Compared to Lee Atwater he's Jesus Christ
 
2013-04-04 02:15:10 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I can't stand the man's politics, but I still love me some Carville.


I dont want to, but I do

He probably has a really crazy sex life with his wife.


I don't know.  Judging by those Southern Comfort commercials (or was it Jim Bean?) he did with his wife last time around, the two seem to want to strangle each other.

DarnoKonrad: Earguy: Despicable man with despicable political tactics. Our whole atmosphere of no-compromise, sneaky politics and lies has a direct line tracing to him. He's not the only one, but he's a founding father.

Compared to Lee Atwater he's Jesus Christ


That's setting the bar fairly low.
 
2013-04-04 02:16:50 PM

eraser8: We're never going to get an actual progressive president, are we?


Oh Lord, no.
We're a pretty right wing nation.  Obama only got 4% more of the vote than Romney.
 
2013-04-04 02:19:33 PM

llortcM_yllort: He probably has a really crazy sex life with his wife.

I don't know.  Judging by those Southern Comfort commercials (or was it Jim Bean?) he did with his wife last time around, the two seem to want to strangle each other.


cdn0.hark.com

Kinky...
 
2013-04-04 02:20:44 PM

jake_lex: I have a feeling that the same thing will happen to Hillary Clinton in 2016 that happened to her in 2008: she'll treat the nomination process as her coronation, feeling that she should just be handed the nomination, and she'll be out-campaigned by someone else.

Hopefully, this time, she doesn't start trying to sabotage that candidate's campaign when it becomes apparent that he or she (I have a feeling it could be Elizabeth Warren, actually) is the actual choice for the party.


I dunno.  I feel like the 2008 loss and working as SoS for 4 years may have taught her some humility and made her stronger than before.
Like Thor after he had to spend time on Earth as a mortal.
 
2013-04-04 02:22:22 PM

NateGrey: Ned Stark: Looks like I'm gonna need to get drunk enough to register Democrat.

/closed primary
//vote no twice

Or let her win the primary and Vote Republican?

Who is currently better Rubio or Christie?


Voting Republican is a bridge to far.

Christie I guess? He at least seems competent I guess. That has been a nice feature of of the Obama administration. Bastards all the way down to be sure but at least the FEMA director is an emergency services professional and not the guy who got fired crime being presitof horses.
 
2013-04-04 02:22:49 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: I dunno. I feel like the 2008 loss and working as SoS for 4 years may have taught her some humility and made her stronger than before.
Like Thor after he had to spend time on Earth as a mortal.


Pretty much every establishment democrat is talking Clinton this time around and there really isn't any bottom up politician to come out of the wings this time around like Barry did after the DNC speech.
 
2013-04-04 02:24:01 PM
Fired from being president of horses.
 
2013-04-04 02:39:48 PM

IrateShadow: There's also that "No more Clintons, no more Bushes" thing that seems to be in vogue. If that message picks up traction it could cause Democratic voters to stay home.


"No more political dynasties" is one of those sayings that sounds appealing to low information voters, and is likely to provoke lengthy counter-arguments (which tune people out.) Hillary supporters need to be honing their bumper sticker response to this *now* if they want to stop that meme from catching on more than it already has.
 
2013-04-04 02:51:25 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I can't stand the man's politics, but I still love me some Carville.


I dont want to, but I do


I'm the opposite: I can't stand his grating personality (probably accented by his odd looks), but I like his politics.

When he's not being irritating, he is funny as all hell. And he turns a phrase with the best of them. He reminds me of Terry Bradshaw's football commentary, only much smarter.
 
2013-04-04 03:15:41 PM
Wait. I thought Hitlery wasn't running in 2016. Now I'm confused.
 
2013-04-04 03:17:29 PM
I'd be thrilled to see a successful campaign from her. It'd be nice to break one more barrier, and she's probably the most qualified presidential candidate we could find.
 
2013-04-04 03:20:42 PM

whidbey: Wait. I thought Hitlery wasn't running in 2016. Now I'm confused.


She hasn't announced. She's almost definitely going to run though- they've been quietly laying the background for it apparently- meeting with big donors and such.

Also, I found an article that has my favorite Clinton anecdote- the one about knowing a yurt from a ger.

http://jezebel.com/5963217/hillary-clinton-is-the-awesomest-awesome- to -ever-awesome
 
2013-04-04 03:26:39 PM

Genevieve Marie: whidbey: Wait. I thought Hitlery wasn't running in 2016. Now I'm confused.

She hasn't announced. She's almost definitely going to run though- they've been quietly laying the background for it apparently- meeting with big donors and such.

Also, I found an article that has my favorite Clinton anecdote- the one about knowing a yurt from a ger.

http://jezebel.com/5963217/hillary-clinton-is-the-awesomest-awesome- to -ever-awesome


Honestly, I wish it would be someone else. I really don't like her or her take on politics.

The bright side would be that we'd see the right-wing derp explode tenfold from a woman running things. Not sure how sane her policies would be, but maybe she's learned something useful from being SOS.
 
2013-04-04 03:27:31 PM

eraser8: We're never going to get an actual progressive president, are we?


No.  They would be snuffed out like RFK.
 
2013-04-04 03:31:49 PM
Oh dear, I somewhat like HR Clinton, and I can honestly say she was a more responsive senator than any I've ever had in any state. Not that her votes were what I requested every time, but I got a sense that she ran her office well & was actually *working* to make things happen... I suppose there's something to be said for that.

I still hope she's not the 2016 nominee. I think her moment of post-defeat appeal peaked back with the I'm-texting-wearing-sunglasses thing. And yes, I'm sick of dynasties.

Not that I wouldn't vote for her in the general. But I'm afraid if the Repubs scare up somebody "fresh" and "dynamic" who's got a couple more braincells to rub together than Ryan (knowing them they'll probably go with Leah Cole) it might end up like a bizzaro-world Obama-v-McCain fiasco.
 
2013-04-04 03:33:33 PM

lilbjorn: eraser8: We're never going to get an actual progressive president, are we?

No.  They would be snuffed out like RFK.


nah, just not elected because 15 year olds can't vote
 
2013-04-04 03:34:58 PM

DarnoKonrad: Earguy: Despicable man with despicable political tactics. Our whole atmosphere of no-compromise, sneaky politics and lies has a direct line tracing to him. He's not the only one, but he's a founding father.

Compared to Lee Atwater he's Jesus Christ


virturl.com
 
2013-04-04 03:38:01 PM

whidbey: Wait. I thought Hitlery wasn't running in 2016. Now I'm confused.


If you're confused now, wait until she buys a giant tour bus with her face on the side and drives around for a month, holding press conferences about how she hasn't decided about if she's running, and then cancels everything.
 
2013-04-04 03:41:33 PM

Fast Thick Pants: I still hope she's not the 2016 nominee. I think her moment of post-defeat appeal peaked back with the I'm-texting-wearing-sunglasses thing. And yes, I'm sick of dynasties.


The Dems should take a page out of their own playbook and run someone relatively unknown but full of potential, like they have the past two elections.

elizabethwarren.com
 
2013-04-04 03:42:27 PM

Genevieve Marie: I'd be thrilled to see a successful campaign from her. It'd be nice to break one more barrier, and she's probably the most qualified presidential candidate we could find.


While she may make a great president, the clusterfark that was her 2008 campaign doesn't exactly inspire confidence in her ability as a campaigner.
 
2013-04-04 03:44:27 PM

whidbey: Fast Thick Pants: I still hope she's not the 2016 nominee. I think her moment of post-defeat appeal peaked back with the I'm-texting-wearing-sunglasses thing. And yes, I'm sick of dynasties.

The Dems should take a page out of their own playbook and run someone relatively unknown but full of potential, like they have the past two elections.

[elizabethwarren.com image 250x166]


old and angry don't win presidential elections.  Just ask John McCain
 
2013-04-04 03:46:39 PM

llortcM_yllort: Just ask John McCain


I would but he's got a busy schedule.

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2013-04-04 03:53:32 PM

llortcM_yllort: Genevieve Marie: I'd be thrilled to see a successful campaign from her. It'd be nice to break one more barrier, and she's probably the most qualified presidential candidate we could find.

While she may make a great president, the clusterfark that was her 2008 campaign doesn't exactly inspire confidence in her ability as a campaigner.


10-1 she runs an entirely different campaign this time with a totally different strategy team. Hopefully they learned a lot- plus there's a fair chance she'd be able to pick up a lot of the Obama campaign people.
 
2013-04-04 03:53:54 PM

llortcM_yllort: old and angry don't win presidential elections. Just ask John McCain


Warren may not be an underwear model (if she is I don't wanna know) but she's far from a could-yeller. She's smart as a whip and she's got heart. I'd vote for her in a second.
 
2013-04-04 03:54:09 PM

llortcM_yllort: While she may make a great president, the clusterfark that was her 2008 campaign doesn't exactly inspire confidence in her ability as a campaigner.


Clinton was still campaigning in the old style, much the same way that McCain did against POTUS in the general and even again with Romney most recently. Obama was running a very sleek bottom up campaign using technology in ways that hadn't even been thought of.

This time around, Clinton knows this and the machine has already been built. We'll get to see an OFA rebranding as the machinations are fired up for her this time around.

Unless someone can find some Dark horse waiting in the wings for 2016?
 
2013-04-04 03:55:17 PM

Fast Thick Pants: Warren may not be an underwear model (if she is I don't wanna know) but she's far from a could-yeller. She's smart as a whip and she's got heart. I'd vote for her in a second.


She'd be a good VP pick, but we'd have to weight that choice carefully because we'd open ourselves up to getting another Scott Brown like moron in the special.
 
2013-04-04 04:20:24 PM

Genevieve Marie: llortcM_yllort: Genevieve Marie: I'd be thrilled to see a successful campaign from her. It'd be nice to break one more barrier, and she's probably the most qualified presidential candidate we could find.

While she may make a great president, the clusterfark that was her 2008 campaign doesn't exactly inspire confidence in her ability as a campaigner.

10-1 she runs an entirely different campaign this time with a totally different strategy team. Hopefully they learned a lot- plus there's a fair chance she'd be able to pick up a lot of the Obama campaign people.


Plus she'll have the Barry and Bill Show campaigning for her and helping her raise money.

Oh, and the GOP will do their part by putting up some right-wing Teatard who scares even its own membership.
 
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