ChipNASA: Nothing but a skid mark on the anus of the South.
Lionel Mandrake: Tar sands are awesome.
wxboy: It's only up to 1,000 feet. That's not going to prevent people from seeing anything.
NutWrench: An FAA spokesman told reporters that the flying ban applied to aircraft flying at 1,000 feet or lower and within five nautical miles, so that emergency support are able to respond to the disaster immediately.Bullshiat. What kind of air support is needed to clean up an oil spill?
change1211: Lionel Mandrake: Tar sands are awesome.Maybe you should shut the hell up and walk everywhere then.
NutWrench: Bullshiat. What kind of air support is needed to clean up an oil spill?
Geotpf: Russia Today is quickly becoming an Alex Jones conspiracy website/TV station. Russian tax dollars at work!
anti-nescience: It isn't just 1000', it is 1000' and 5 nautical miles around.
Langdon_777: Its not an "oil spill" its a "tar sands oil spill" ... totally different when it comes to corporate liability.Oils ain't oils.
CoolHandLucas: anti-nescience: It isn't just 1000', it is 1000' and 5 nautical miles around....so you fly at 1500' smack over everything - it really doesn't make THAT much of a difference for what a camera lens can see, but it does reduce the risk of low-level helicopter collisions.1000/5nm is a pretty typical TFR size for a disaster like a spill, wildfire, etc.
HotWingConspiracy: Arkansas Attorney General Dustin McDaniel, who spoke of future litigation as a "certainty," derided attempts by ExxonMobil representatives to manage his visit to the site.Wow. You can't really work an AG like he's a ref. They'll come to regret this.
Pair-o-Dice: Langdon_777: Its not an "oil spill" its a "tar sands oil spill" ... totally different when it comes to corporate liability.Oils ain't oils.Until it hits the anus.
Pair-o-Dice: You don't want to f*ck with the EPA.
gilgigamesh: I have a question for any geologists or otherwise science-headed people. Please excuse my ignorance:Reading TFA, it sounds like a large part of the problem involves transporting this stuff thousands of miles through pipelines over some pretty precarious area in the form of environmentally hazardous toxic sludge form, as opposed to refined crude which is comparatively easier to clean up. It doesn't get refined until it hits places like Texas and Louisiana, before being shipped to China or wherever.So my question: why don't they just refine it on site when it is extracted, before its transported anywhere? I assume the answer is "cost", but would appreciate details.
Cortez the Killer: I drive past this clusterfark every day going back/forth to work.....so I'm getting a kick.....
BarkingUnicorn: Cortez the Killer: I drive past this clusterfark every day going back/forth to work.....so I'm getting a kick.....Toss a burning cigarette out the window and spare everyone a lot of trouble.
uncleacid: Now that he does not have to worry about re-election you know Obama is going to approve the Keystone Pipeline.
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