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(Ace Showbiz)   Richie Sambora won't be there for you, is a little runaway from Bon Jovi. It's his life but never say goodbye   (aceshowbiz.com) divider line 48
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2013-04-04 04:12:03 AM
Aren't you guys a little old to be arguing like 10 year-olds?
 
2013-04-04 06:02:13 AM
I want to stab subby in the eye with a rusty spork.
 
2013-04-04 06:57:56 AM

monty666: I want to stab subby in the eye with a rusty spork.


Do they even make metal sporks?
 
2013-04-04 07:06:43 AM
This would be crushing news in 1990.
 
2013-04-04 07:19:43 AM
He was the only talented guy in the group.  They should have been called Sambora.
 
2013-04-04 07:39:30 AM
Damn, it's not an obituary.
 
2013-04-04 07:49:20 AM

The Muthaship: He was the only talented guy in the group.  They should have been called Sambora.


No. Sam Bora. Durrrr.
 
2013-04-04 07:52:05 AM

earthworm2.0: monty666: I want to stab subby in the eye with a rusty spork.

Do they even make metal sporks?


Titanium no less.  For backpacking.

insert TMYK jpeg
 
2013-04-04 07:53:56 AM

monty666: The Muthaship: He was the only talented guy in the group.  They should have been called Sambora.

No. Sam Bora. Durrrr.


Better.
 
2013-04-04 08:05:45 AM
Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.
 
2013-04-04 08:14:47 AM

stuhayes2010: This would be crushing news in 1990.


I dunno: they're still filling arenas on this tour.
 
2013-04-04 08:35:01 AM

Skarekrough: Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.


And that was probably his problem. I've read that Bon Jovi isn't set up as a collective like most bands, but that Jon actually owns the name and all the rights, and simply pays the band as employees (very handsomely, but still). So, if the 'company' turns huge profits, you only get what you negotiated in your contract, not a straight cut of the net proceeds.
 
2013-04-04 08:41:32 AM

Loomy: Skarekrough: Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.

And that was probably his problem. I've read that Bon Jovi isn't set up as a collective like most bands, but that Jon actually owns the name and all the rights, and simply pays the band as employees (very handsomely, but still). So, if the 'company' turns huge profits, you only get what you negotiated in your contract, not a straight cut of the net proceeds.


...which of course leaves Jon to write the material if Richie leaves.  For an example of what happens with this in the worst case scenario look at Guns n' Roses.
 
2013-04-04 08:46:59 AM
Ah, they'll make up. It's like a brother fight.
 
2013-04-04 08:48:29 AM

unfarkingbelievable: Ah, they'll make up. It's like a brother fight.


The money's too good for them not to.

The only other option would be for Richie to go on an epic bender and off himself.
 
2013-04-04 09:00:05 AM

The Muthaship: He was the only talented guy in the group.


Being the only talented member of Bon Jovi is like being the best ice hockey team in Mexico.
 
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2013-04-04 09:11:13 AM

Skarekrough: Loomy: Skarekrough: Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.

And that was probably his problem. I've read that Bon Jovi isn't set up as a collective like most bands, but that Jon actually owns the name and all the rights, and simply pays the band as employees (very handsomely, but still). So, if the 'company' turns huge profits, you only get what you negotiated in your contract, not a straight cut of the net proceeds.

...which of course leaves Jon to write the material if Richie leaves.  For an example of what happens with this in the worst case scenario look at Guns n' Roses.


great.... perpetual young guns albums coming out every three years w/retread bonus tracks.
 
2013-04-04 09:11:49 AM
I don't know. JBJ could put an ad up for a guitar player in Freehold Music and probably find a guitarist twice as good who'll work for $100k a year.

/Is Freehold Music even there anymore? It's probably a Guitar Center now. I haven't been down Rt 9 that way in years.
 
2013-04-04 09:15:37 AM

H31N0US: I don't know. JBJ could put an ad up for a guitar player in Freehold Music and probably find a guitarist twice as good who'll work for $100k a year.

/Is Freehold Music even there anymore? It's probably a Guitar Center now. I haven't been down Rt 9 that way in years.


Can they also hit all JBJ's high notes for him?  Sambora does all the heavy lifting these days.
 
2013-04-04 09:33:00 AM
It looks like he can't travel to Canadialand, because he left the last tour when they went up there.

So we can haz Phil X?
 
2013-04-04 09:49:08 AM
Sounds like he took some bad medicine, he should be ok though.
 
2013-04-04 10:08:53 AM
First, fark you for farking your fans (customers) that made you rich enough to walk out on your show (job) and not worry about the repercussions.

Second, Bon Jovi is the most overrated band in history.
 
2013-04-04 10:15:36 AM
Maybe it's because Mr. Jon Bovi is a complete asshole?
 
2013-04-04 10:17:47 AM

The Muthaship: He was the only talented guy in the group.  They should have been called Sambora.


I concur with this sentiment. Better vocalist than Jon, better guitarist (obviously). His album Stranger In This Town was outstanding. Somebody put the whole thing on YT. Not that I encourage such things.
 
2013-04-04 10:27:42 AM

monty666: I want to stab subby in the eye with a rusty spork.


Why a spork, cousin?
 
2013-04-04 10:41:12 AM

AiryAnne: First, fark you for farking your fans (customers) that made you rich enough to walk out on your show (job) and not worry about the repercussions.

Second, Bon Jovi is the most overrated band in history.


Yeah...but they did two things; they were around at the right time and they listened to their management.

Their strength was never being a great band.  It was allowing themselves to be marketed and sold.  And its made them rich....well, at least one of them at least.
 
2013-04-04 10:48:13 AM
Ritchie donated money to my high school and they named the entrance road after him. This was maybe 5 years after I graduated so I missed any ceremony.

Also, my first girlfriend's mom went out with drummer back in their high school days.

That's it. End of story. Am i famous yet?
 
2013-04-04 10:55:54 AM

IwasKloot: Ritchie donated money to my high school and they named the entrance road after him.



That was your school at the end of Bland Shiat Boulevard?


/feel free to take that name for your next album, JonBon!
 
2013-04-04 11:06:52 AM

Loomy: Skarekrough: Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.

And that was probably his problem. I've read that Bon Jovi isn't set up as a collective like most bands, but that Jon actually owns the name and all the rights, and simply pays the band as employees (very handsomely, but still). So, if the 'company' turns huge profits, you only get what you negotiated in your contract, not a straight cut of the net proceeds.


Sambora also has a ton of songwriting credits, so he gets royalties from those also.

Phil X is filling in for Sambora again, so the audience will still be treated to a musicians who's a superior songwriter, singer and musician than the actual frontman.

/Those high notes? Jon Bon ain't singin' 'em. It's Phil.
 
2013-04-04 11:08:45 AM

EyeballKid: IwasKloot: Ritchie donated money to my high school and they named the entrance road after him.


That was your school at the end of Bland Shiat Boulevard?


/feel free to take that name for your next album, JonBon!


It is now, yes.
 
2013-04-04 11:23:33 AM

verbaltoxin: Loomy: Skarekrough: Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.

And that was probably his problem. I've read that Bon Jovi isn't set up as a collective like most bands, but that Jon actually owns the name and all the rights, and simply pays the band as employees (very handsomely, but still). So, if the 'company' turns huge profits, you only get what you negotiated in your contract, not a straight cut of the net proceeds.

Sambora also has a ton of songwriting credits, so he gets royalties from those also.

Phil X is filling in for Sambora again, so the audience will still be treated to a musicians who's a superior songwriter, singer and musician than the actual frontman.

/Those high notes? Jon Bon ain't singin' 'em. It's Phil.



Hell, when I saw them in Ottawa in Feb.*, he didn't even attempt the high notes in Livin' on a Prayer, just pointed the mic at the crowd. It didn't feel like a cop-out because he's a good showman, but one could tell he's way beyond the vocal-combover stage of his career - that voicebox is shaved a shiny.

/*Xmas present to the finacée, because nostalgia
//Also, I'm not sure what the bassist did to Jon's (or the show producer's) mother, but he got about 90 seconds of big-screen time in a 2-hour concert. Not that anyone really cares about the bass player, but the drummer and keyboardist got decent shares...
 
2013-04-04 11:29:30 AM

Loomy: verbaltoxin: Loomy: Skarekrough: Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.

And that was probably his problem. I've read that Bon Jovi isn't set up as a collective like most bands, but that Jon actually owns the name and all the rights, and simply pays the band as employees (very handsomely, but still). So, if the 'company' turns huge profits, you only get what you negotiated in your contract, not a straight cut of the net proceeds.

Sambora also has a ton of songwriting credits, so he gets royalties from those also.

Phil X is filling in for Sambora again, so the audience will still be treated to a musicians who's a superior songwriter, singer and musician than the actual frontman.

/Those high notes? Jon Bon ain't singin' 'em. It's Phil.


Hell, when I saw them in Ottawa in Feb.*, he didn't even attempt the high notes in Livin' on a Prayer, just pointed the mic at the crowd. It didn't feel like a cop-out because he's a good showman, but one could tell he's way beyond the vocal-combover stage of his career - that voicebox is shaved a shiny.

/*Xmas present to the finacée, because nostalgia
//Also, I'm not sure what the bassist did to Jon's (or the show producer's) mother, but he got about 90 seconds of big-screen time in a 2-hour concert. Not that anyone really cares about the bass player, but the drummer and keyboardist got decent shares...


That's because the bass player isn't a member of the band AFAIK. They've gone with hired guns since kicking out Alec Von Suck.
 
2013-04-04 11:38:01 AM

sotua: Loomy: verbaltoxin: Loomy: Skarekrough: Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.

And that was probably his problem. I've read that Bon Jovi isn't set up as a collective like most bands, but that Jon actually owns the name and all the rights, and simply pays the band as employees (very handsomely, but still). So, if the 'company' turns huge profits, you only get what you negotiated in your contract, not a straight cut of the net proceeds.

Sambora also has a ton of songwriting credits, so he gets royalties from those also.

Phil X is filling in for Sambora again, so the audience will still be treated to a musicians who's a superior songwriter, singer and musician than the actual frontman.

/Those high notes? Jon Bon ain't singin' 'em. It's Phil.


Hell, when I saw them in Ottawa in Feb.*, he didn't even attempt the high notes in Livin' on a Prayer, just pointed the mic at the crowd. It didn't feel like a cop-out because he's a good showman, but one could tell he's way beyond the vocal-combover stage of his career - that voicebox is shaved a shiny.

/*Xmas present to the finacée, because nostalgia
//Also, I'm not sure what the bassist did to Jon's (or the show producer's) mother, but he got about 90 seconds of big-screen time in a 2-hour concert. Not that anyone really cares about the bass player, but the drummer and keyboardist got decent shares...

That's because the bass player isn't a member of the band AFAIK. They've gone with hired guns since kicking out Alec Von Suck.


It's Hugh McDonald, who goes way, way back with Jon Bon Jovi, to the pre-Bon Jovi days. In fact a lot of the recorded basslines on the band's most famous tunes were done by him. For some reason though they never made McDonald an official member, even though he's held the bass slot full-time since about '94 or '95.

I'm sure the paycheck consoles him.
 
2013-04-04 11:38:36 AM

sotua: That's because the bass player isn't a member of the band AFAIK. They've gone with hired guns since kicking out Alec Von Suck.


My understanding is that all but Jon were hired guns from the first album on.  His is the only name that was ever on the recording contract.  It's not that unusual, and would have been a GOOD deal for them if they hadn't sold 30 bazillion shiatty records.
 
2013-04-04 12:31:18 PM
He'll be back when he runs out of bank.
 
2013-04-04 02:19:35 PM
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Maybe he'll be able to do this gig full time now.

/One can hope....
 
2013-04-04 02:21:02 PM

stuhayes2010: This would be crushing news in 1990.


I was a teenage girl in the 80s and loved hair bands but I was the only who didn't really fall in love with Bon Jovi; sure I like a few of their songs but never bought their CDs. Same with Whitesnake.

I loved Skid Row.  About ten years ago I Sabastian Bach in concert solo and it was a blast.  Crazy guy it  sang hard.  ...good times those were.

Love "Wanted Dead or Alive" and have it on my iPod because Ritchie Sambora's guitar solo is great, IMO. And R.S. was so hot.

IwasKloot: Ritchie donated money to my high school and they named the entrance road after him. This was maybe 5 years after I graduated so I missed any ceremony.

Also, my first girlfriend's mom went out with drummer back in their high school days.

That's it. End of story. Am i famous yet?


CSB.
 
2013-04-04 03:48:29 PM

mjohnson71: stuhayes2010: This would be crushing news in 1990.

I dunno: they're still filling arenas on this tour.


Which I find ironic since the least talented metal band is still selling concerts out, but hey give simpletons what they want and you can be a success. Just ask the democrats, they been catering to simpletons for 20 years now.
 
2013-04-04 04:07:12 PM
So I guess Bon Jovi will be stealing Bobby Bandiera from Southside Johnny & The Asbury Jukes again.
 
2013-04-04 04:58:38 PM
Taking the wife to see them in a few weeks.  Any Farkers got tips/suggestions as I have not been to a concert in 20 years (so yeah, get off my lawn). Llooking at youtube clips I presume concerts are not smokey anymore and cell phones have replaced lighters.  Wife is short, will she be unable to see?   It looks like these days eveyone has their hands up holding their cell phones trying to record or show their freinds who are not there, or some such nonsense.
 
2013-04-04 05:33:56 PM
mjohnson71 * * Smartest * Funniest 2013-04-04 08:14:47 AM stuhayes2010: This would be crushing news in 1990. I dunno: they're still filling arenas on this tour.
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I saw them in Cleveland. Pretty good. Not great, but then, the last concert I saw at Quicken Loans Arena was Bruce Springsteen and no artist can touch his awesomeness with a 20 foot pole. So...

/Richie was the best part of the show, though. Sucks for people who bought tickets to the rest of the tour.
 
2013-04-04 07:05:01 PM

steamingpile: mjohnson71: stuhayes2010: This would be crushing news in 1990.

I dunno: they're still filling arenas on this tour.

Which I find ironic since the least talented metal band is still selling concerts out, but hey give simpletons what they want and you can be a success. Just ask the democrats, they been catering to simpletons for 20 years now.


What metal band?
 
2013-04-04 07:58:00 PM

DrMemory: Taking the wife to see them in a few weeks.  Any Farkers got tips/suggestions as I have not been to a concert in 20 years (so yeah, get off my lawn). Llooking at youtube clips I presume concerts are not smokey anymore and cell phones have replaced lighters.  Wife is short, will she be unable to see?   It looks like these days eveyone has their hands up holding their cell phones trying to record or show their freinds who are not there, or some such nonsense.


Dude, no one under 40 will be there unless their parents make them. You'll be fine.
 
2013-04-05 12:01:45 AM
Maybe he finally realised that he was in Bon Jovi.

Stevie Ray Vaughn is dead but we can't get Jon Bon Jovi on a helicopter!!!
 
2013-04-05 12:32:13 AM
I don't care about Bon Jovi. I don't care what Slash is doing. If Bon Jovi hired Slash to finish the tour. I'd buy 2 tickets.
 
2013-04-05 02:48:52 AM

Skarekrough: Kinda like how Jerry Cantrell is for Alice In Chains, Richie is pretty much "the guy" when it comes to writing for that band.


So he's the one to blame?
 
2013-04-05 02:56:10 AM

steamingpile: mjohnson71: stuhayes2010: This would be crushing news in 1990.

I dunno: they're still filling arenas on this tour.

Which I find ironic since the least talented metal band is still selling concerts out, but hey give simpletons what they want and you can be a success. Just ask the democrats, they been catering to simpletons for 20 years now.


+1 for the troll-fu to wedge your politics in here.
 
2013-04-05 08:09:16 AM

MadAzza: What metal band?


I can only guess he is referring to those of Napster fame.
 
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