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(PennLive)   Mark Cuban: "You know what, I would draft Brittney Griner if it would help the Mavericks out"   (pennlive.com) divider line 112
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2013-04-04 12:22:49 AM  
attention whore
 
2013-04-04 12:57:27 AM  
For fark's sake, it wouldn't.  I want to like Mark Cuban, but this kind of attention grabbing is farking stupid.
 
2013-04-04 06:32:06 AM  
Shes gotta be better at basketball then tebow is at football and he was a first round draft pick.
 
2013-04-04 06:41:18 AM  
People are missing the big picture here. Check out what Cuban said on ESPN-

Cuban acknowledged that Griner playing in the NBA's Las Vegas summer league would have tremendous marketing potential.
"It would, wouldn't it? See how she could do?" Cuban said. "That'd sell out a few games."

He's figured out a way to enhance the value of a second-round draft pick, that's all.
 
2013-04-04 06:53:16 AM  
She might be just as good or better than some of the scrubs (relatively) that play in the NBA summer games. She might be able to make the D-League (the Mavs have a D-League team, and they already had a female coach to gain attention), but I assume she'd make more money in the WNBA.

/Of course Cubes is doing this for attention, he's been doing that for over a decade. His first move as owner was to sign declining and belligerent Dennis Rodman.
 
2013-04-04 06:59:23 AM  
"You know what, I would draft Brittney Griner if it would help the Mavericks out"

If that's what he actually said or meant, what's wrong with it? If she's  the best player available, draft her. If she isn't, don't.

Not sure why people are jumping to the conclusion that he's saying something completely different from this, i.e that he would draft her for the publicity, or to make some sort of statement. He's just saying he doesn't rule her out for having the other kind of genitals, not that he's giving her special consideration.

But then, people are generally exceptionally good at reading what they want to read rather than what's actually written... as several people will now demonstrate with their replies to this comment.
 
2013-04-04 07:09:42 AM  

czetie: But then, people are generally exceptionally good at reading what they want to read rather than what's actually written... as several people will now demonstrate with their replies to this comment.


As a long time Mavericks fan what I read into this is just Cuban being his usual opinionated self. He's also a business man, so it would be naive to assume he wouldn't use this for publicity and monetary purposes, which "helps the Mavs". Not matter what, if Griner has the skill to compete, it just ends up a win-win for Cuban and the franchise. I personally think it would be great if she got the chance to play against the male prospects, and based on my limited female hoops knowledge I think she has a better chance than any other female that played the game. Sorry Lisa Leslie, Sheryl Swoopes, and Cheryl Miller.
 
2013-04-04 07:41:49 AM  
Draft, no.

Invite to the D-League, absolutely.
 
2013-04-04 07:43:15 AM  

czetie: "You know what, I would draft Brittney Griner if it would help the Mavericks out"

If that's what he actually said or meant, what's wrong with it? If she's  the best player available, draft her. If she isn't, don't.

Not sure why people are jumping to the conclusion that he's saying something completely different from this,


Because of his image.  When you're perceived as being crazy, even reasonable actions are perceived as crazy.
 
2013-04-04 07:55:19 AM  
Griner makes no D League roster anywhere on ability.

On novelty......
 
2013-04-04 07:55:35 AM  
Brittany Griner is the lady player that has gone berserk and beaten up her opponents in the middle of games before, right?
 
2013-04-04 07:56:59 AM  
Lets see...Griner vs Nikola Pekovic in the paint. Who would want to watch that?
 
2013-04-04 07:58:24 AM  

CatfoodSpork: Brittany Griner is the lady player that has gone berserk and beaten up her opponents in the middle of games before, right?


Broke Jordan Barncastle's nose, yes.
 
2013-04-04 08:05:43 AM  
let me translate that quote for you:"You know what, I would draft Brittney Griner if it would help me sell more tickets and get more people to pay attention to me."
 
2013-04-04 08:10:08 AM  

TheJoe03: She might be just as good or better than some of the scrubs (relatively) that play in the NBA summer games. She might be able to make the D-League (the Mavs have a D-League team, and they already had a female coach to gain attention), but I assume she'd make more money in the WNBA.

/Of course Cubes is doing this for attention, he's been doing that for over a decade. His first move as owner was to sign declining and belligerent Dennis Rodman.


I doubt she would even make the D-League... Huge difference between men and women athletes in the more physical sports.
 
2013-04-04 08:14:59 AM  

CatfoodSpork: Brittany Griner is the lady player that has gone berserk and beaten up her opponents in the middle of games before, right?


It's okay though, she is was a winner, so no one talks about it.

The Muthaship: Griner makes no D League roster anywhere on ability.

On novelty......


And this.
 
2013-04-04 08:16:49 AM  
He's so maveriky
 
2013-04-04 08:16:58 AM  

czetie: If that's what he actually said or meant, what's wrong with it? If she's  the best player available, draft her. If she isn't, don't.

Not sure why people are jumping to the conclusion that he's saying something completely different from this, i.e that he would draft her for the publicity, or to make some sort of statement. He's just saying he doesn't rule her out for having the other kind of genitals, not that he's giving her special consideration.

But then, people are generally exceptionally good at reading what they want to read rather than what's actually written... as several people will now demonstrate with their replies to this comment.


Because she's obviously not the best player available from a basketball POV and publicity stunt is the only other reasonable conclusion.  In the woman's game she's huge and strong and an imposing defender, but compared to NBA players she's an undersized, slow forward with no shooting range.
 
2013-04-04 08:20:00 AM  
Cubes bein' Cubes
 
2013-04-04 08:21:48 AM  
It would be a tremendous opportunity to demonstrate the difference between men's and women's basketball. Griner is one of the best players in NCAA women's history and I doubt she'd get a shot near the rim, even in the D-league which is full of guys her size and much bigger who are much faster and more athletic.
 
2013-04-04 08:26:35 AM  

Tarl3k: let me translate that quote for you:"You know what, I would draft Brittney Griner if it would help me sell more tickets and get more people to pay attention to me."


Yeah, what a horrible thing.  To own a professional sports team and want to actually sell tickets to their games.  HORRIBLE.
 
2013-04-04 08:28:54 AM  

machoprogrammer: I doubt she would even make the D-League... Huge difference between men and women athletes in the more physical sports.


I agree, but it would be interesting and possibly entertaining to watch her compete (thus making the D-League team money and publicity).
 
2013-04-04 08:42:40 AM  
Everything I have seen and know about Mark Cuban, I think I can take his statement at face value...which is to say he would sell his soul if he thought it would help his sports team. That's not a bad trait to have in an owner.
 
2013-04-04 08:56:28 AM  

TheJoe03: I agree, but it would be interesting and possibly entertaining to watch her compete (thus making the D-League team money and publicity).


You know what the worst possible outcome would be? If she turns out to be just a'ight in the D-League. If she's terrible, then that's expected. If she's awesome, then the Mavs found a steal.

But what if she goes for 9 points and 5 boards a game? It's not like there aren't at least 200 dudes I could find that would be able of posting numbers like that- guys who do things like go to Israel to play pro ball. That would make life uncomfortable, because there would be some demand to see her make the Mavs' roster.
 
2013-04-04 09:00:14 AM  

kwame: Tarl3k: let me translate that quote for you:"You know what, I would draft Brittney Griner if it would help me sell more tickets and get more people to pay attention to me."

Yeah, what a horrible thing.  To own a professional sports team and want to actually sell tickets to their games.  HORRIBLE.


Next they'll be trying to get all of the best players on the same team, so they can actually try to win games. Where does the madness end?
 
2013-04-04 09:06:49 AM  
Couldn't be any worse than Shawn Bradley. And Mark Cuban is a tool.
 
2013-04-04 09:14:25 AM  

TrainingWheelsNeeded: Couldn't be any worse than Shawn Bradley


From Wiki:  He finished his career with averages of 8.1 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 2.5 blocks in 23.5 minutes of action per game

She couldn't post that stat line on her best night in the NBA.
 
2013-04-04 09:19:55 AM  
Pretty sure the Mavs don't need the fourth Hanson on the team.
 
2013-04-04 09:21:15 AM  
Too bad Eddie Gaedel's dead or they could have their entire draft planned already.
 
2013-04-04 09:47:04 AM  

The Muthaship: From Wiki: He finished his career with averages of 8.1 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 2.5 blocks in 23.5 minutes of action per game

She couldn't post that stat line on her best night in the NBA.


No one could.  How can you score 8.1 points in one night?
 
2013-04-04 09:47:52 AM  

Altman: The Muthaship: From Wiki: He finished his career with averages of 8.1 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 2.5 blocks in 23.5 minutes of action per game

She couldn't post that stat line on her best night in the NBA.

No one could.  How can you score 8.1 points in one night?


Touche`
 
2013-04-04 10:07:31 AM  

IlGreven: Because of his image. When you're perceived as being crazy, even reasonable actions are perceived as crazy.


I can sympathize with that. I used to get that same reaction back when I was still allowed in my local supermarket.
 
2013-04-04 10:10:01 AM  

TheJoe03: She might be just as good or better than some of the scrubs (relatively) that play in the NBA summer games.


Why do you  think that?  Any "scrub" taller than 6'4 would do better playing against women in college than  Griner.
 
2013-04-04 10:14:58 AM  

TheJoe03: She might be just as good or better than some of the scrubs (relatively) that play in the NBA summer games. She might be able to make the D-League (the Mavs have a D-League team, and they already had a female coach to gain attention), but I assume she'd make more money in the WNBA.

/Of course Cubes is doing this for attention, he's been doing that for over a decade. His first move as owner was to sign declining and belligerent Dennis Rodman.


Regarding the money thing, it all depends what on what she values.  I have two girls on the high school hockey team I coach that would be all conference if they were playing on a female team, whereas on my team they're struggling to hold down spots on the third line.  However they wanted to play against tougher competition so they signed up to play on the tougher team.
 
2013-04-04 10:20:33 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: It would be a tremendous opportunity to demonstrate the difference between men's and women's basketball. Griner is one of the best players in NCAA women's history and I doubt she'd get a shot near the rim, even in the D-league which is full of guys her size and much bigger who are much faster and more athletic.


If the NBA cares anything at all about the WNBA they should try to influence Cuban out of this stunt. Either she makes a D league team sits on the bench and takes one of the greatest players out of the WNBA for a time or, more likely, she does poorly and gives more ammo for people not to take the women's game seriously.
 
2013-04-04 10:27:45 AM  

dwade: Shes gotta be better at basketball then tebow is at football and he was a first round draft pick.


Tebow would be great playing against smaller weaker competition. Just like this girl.
 
2013-04-04 10:28:30 AM  

DrewCurtisJr: TheJoe03: She might be just as good or better than some of the scrubs (relatively) that play in the NBA summer games.

Why do you  think that?  Any "scrub" taller than 6'4 would do better playing against women in college than  Griner.


I'm not sure people realize how good you have to be just to be in the D-League or summer league.  To do that, you have to be one of the 500-600 best basketball players available in a world wide pool of talent.

The absolute worst team in the D-League has 3 guys bigger than Griner on their roster.  How in the world would Griner at 6'8", 210 match-up against guys who are 6'11", 250?

There is a zero percent chance she makes it, and a 100 percent chance this would be nothing but a publicity stunt.
 
2013-04-04 10:31:37 AM  
DrewCurtisJr:  ...more ammo for people not to take the women's game seriously.

No "more ammo" is needed; the women's game at all levels, and college basketball on the men's side, is like the Biggest Twit episode from Flying Circus.  Men's college basketball is unwatchable, but I'd rather be forced to endure that than sit through a quarter of a WNBA game.

Conversely, the NBA is the most entertaining of the pro sports by a pretty wide margin.
 
2013-04-04 10:37:36 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: The absolute worst team in the D-League has 3 guys bigger than Griner on their roster.  How in the world would Griner at 6'8", 210 match-up against guys who are 6'11", 250?


By that metric, Nate Robinson really sucks!

/It's quite obvious that she'd have to change her game from inside to outside to have any chance at success in the men's game.
//But if guys like Robinson can succeed, so can she.
 
2013-04-04 10:50:59 AM  

IlGreven: Yanks_RSJ: The absolute worst team in the D-League has 3 guys bigger than Griner on their roster.  How in the world would Griner at 6'8", 210 match-up against guys who are 6'11", 250?

By that metric, Nate Robinson really sucks!

/It's quite obvious that she'd have to change her game from inside to outside to have any chance at success in the men's game.
//But if guys like Robinson can succeed, so can she.


Utter nonsense.  Robinson's size is a hindrance, but his athletic ability and quickness are well above average.  Griner's dominance in the women's game is entirely based on her size, and unless she somehow becomes much faster and more agile, there is absolutely zero chance she can even compete at a minimal level with men.
 
2013-04-04 10:52:01 AM  

IlGreven: //But if guys like Robinson can succeed, so can she.


Maybe.  There's no guarantee she could ever become a good outside shooter.  Lots of people have tried to become good shooters and failed and she'd be starting way behind the curve because shooting long jumpers was never a good use of her practice time before.  She'd also always be a defensive liability.  Robinson is too, but that's less important for a PG.
 
2013-04-04 10:58:30 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: IlGreven: Yanks_RSJ: The absolute worst team in the D-League has 3 guys bigger than Griner on their roster.  How in the world would Griner at 6'8", 210 match-up against guys who are 6'11", 250?

By that metric, Nate Robinson really sucks!

/It's quite obvious that she'd have to change her game from inside to outside to have any chance at success in the men's game.
//But if guys like Robinson can succeed, so can she.

Utter nonsense.  Robinson's size is a hindrance, but his athletic ability and quickness are well above average.  Griner's dominance in the women's game is entirely based on her size, and unless she somehow becomes much faster and more agile, there is absolutely zero chance she can even compete at a minimal level with men.


Dude she can just change her game from inside to outside! What don't you get about that?

What NBA team wouldn't want a small forward who can't shoot and can't guard anyone on the floor at any position?

Oh the Bobcats are in the league. I forgot about them. So maybe she does have a shot, Jordan might take her with the first pick and pair her with the corpse of Adam Morrison.
 
2013-04-04 10:58:56 AM  

you have pee hands: IlGreven: //But if guys like Robinson can succeed, so can she.

Maybe.  There's no guarantee she could ever become a good outside shooter.  Lots of people have tried to become good shooters and failed and she'd be starting way behind the curve because shooting long jumpers was never a good use of her practice time before.  She'd also always be a defensive liability.  Robinson is too, but that's less important for a PG.


Even if she becomes a good shooter, she'd still have to get herself open enough to launch a shot.  The guys she'd be playing against would have an overwhelming edge in speed and strength.  It's not even a conversation anyone should be taking seriously, honestly.
 
2013-04-04 11:04:12 AM  

js34603: Dude she can just change her game from inside to outside! What don't you get about that?

What NBA team wouldn't want a small forward who can't shoot and can't guard anyone on the floor at any position?

Oh the Bobcats are in the league. I forgot about them. So maybe she does have a shot, Jordan might take her with the first pick and pair her with the corpse of Adam Morrison.


She'd make Kwame Brown look like Wilt Chamberlain.
 
2013-04-04 11:08:47 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: Even if she becomes a good shooter, she'd still have to get herself open enough to launch a shot. The guys she'd be playing against would have an overwhelming edge in speed and strength. It's not even a conversation anyone should be taking seriously, honestly.


Yeah.  Even if she were a dead-eye 3 point shooter she'd be a smaller, slower Steve Novak.  I'm just saying that in addition to that, it would require a skillset totally different from anything she's ever done.
 
2013-04-04 11:19:52 AM  
Cubes is just trolling us now that the Mavs are pretty much DOA for the playoffs.
 
2013-04-04 11:20:32 AM  
A second-rounder is unlikely to help the Mavericks out anyway, so why not?

Gonz: But what if she goes for 9 points and 5 boards a game? It's not like there aren't at least 200 dudes I could find that would be able of posting numbers like that- guys who do things like go to Israel to play pro ball. That would make life uncomfortable, because there would be some demand to see her make the Mavs' roster.


Why would that make life uncomfortable?

Kinda weird that in the age of us being upset that homosexuals shouldn't have to worry about their orientation - "If you can play, you can play," that we'd want to keep a gender out of professional sports just to support our preconceived notion that women aren't as good at sports.

If she can play, she can play. If not, then there's nothing wrong with letting her try. You get better by playing against/with better players.

Guess what, one of 200 men who couldn't hack it who might b*tch about the fact that she took your spot...you suck, relatively, and putting you in her position isn't going to benefit anyone in the long term.
 
2013-04-04 11:25:34 AM  
1/3 of 2nd-round picks, historically, don't even see the NBA. It's not a big deal to waste one of those.

Unless you're going to run into Robert Sarver and he's going to give you a solid defensive center and two first-rounders for that second-round pick because he's a cheap f*ckstain who actively wants to drive away all his team's fans.
 
2013-04-04 11:39:32 AM  

IlGreven: /It's quite obvious that she'd have to change her game from inside to outside to have any chance at success in the men's game.


Then she's got even less of a chance. If you are going to make a project out of a player to try to convert them out of the post why would you take Griner?
 
2013-04-04 11:42:47 AM  
There are plenty of NBA players who can't shoot for sh*t in a game.

Even if she proves to be completely inept, she could always be The Human Victory Cigar.

/the Heat could pick her up to fill Juwan Howard's shoes and for the lulz, so she'll have more rings than many of the NBA's Hall of Fame
//kinda like the Lakers did with Adam Morrison
 
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