A SEC school violated NCAA regulations, bribed players and falsified academic records?
My entire worldview has been shattered.

Why should Auburn cheat less than every other school in the NCAA?

I'm getting the vapors.  I need to sit on my fainting couch.

The Auburn-area newspaper contains a follow-up story from players who say they never said the things "Roopstigo" Roberts quoted them as saying.

The most telling feature in my opinion is that this story has come out in a web-only "publication" with no apparent ties to a regular news source, e.g., a daily newspaper with editors who are supposed to question everything their writers bring them.

Huck And Molly Ziegler: The Auburn-area newspaper contains a follow-up story from players who say they never said the things "Roopstigo" Roberts quoted them as saying.

The most telling feature in my opinion is that this story has come out in a web-only "publication" with no apparent ties to a regular news source, e.g., a daily newspaper with editors who are supposed to question everything their writers bring them.

This is the same lady that used to work for ESPN and was the one who busted him for steroids in 2009. Just for reference.

And one of the players isn't saying that he "never said" those things, but that what he said was "taken out of context". We shall see where this goes.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's legit, or if this is just a journalist trying to get her name out there. Either way, I don't care.

/It will be funny, though, when Auburn has to vacate their National Title, just as everyone predicted they would

Just look at chapel hill (UNC for those non north carolina people) for a school with so much scandalous behavior and no penalties its nuts what schools get away with.

The penn state thing, I am still not sure gave their football program an unfair advantage, but UNC and Auburn should have all theirs wins vacated and fined and loss of scholarships but now the standard for that seems to be Sandusky or Hitler to actually do something to a program that cheats

Huck And Molly Ziegler: The most telling feature in my opinion is that this story has come out in a web-only "publication" with no apparent ties to a regular news source, e.g., a daily newspaper with editors who are supposed to question everything their writers bring them.

Except the owner of the website and author of the story is a former NYT and SI reporter. So she has a little more creditbility.

And according to this article:  http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2013/04/qa_reporter_selena _ roberts_def.html  she has a part 2 that will focus on the boosters at Auburn

/ best of the $cam Newton pics

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I was going to submit this story with that quote as the headline. It just worked so well together

if these players were part of the cheating, they shouldn't be allowed to play at the next level. the schools should be punished along with the players taking the cheat.

mr_a:

Just pay these guys and knock off the farce.

At the top teams in College Football the athletes are professionals so why don't they get paid? It's not like they are actually getting an education.

Oh wait I know, it would mean less slops in the trough for fat old men who run the game. The amateurism is more of a sham than it was for rugby union in the early 90's.

The deflection is strong in this thread

It really is going to take an act of Congress to change something in this sport.  And too many mouth-breathers will cry "They've got more important things to do!" should Federal scrutiny ever take place.

/for the love of what's left about this sport that is good, just make it legal for college athletes to sign endorsement deals

veedeevadeevoodee: / best of the $cam Newton pics

What's the context of that picture?

WillofJ2: Just look at chapel hill (UNC for those non north carolina people) for a school with so much scandalous behavior and no penalties its nuts what schools get away with.

The penn state thing, I am still not sure gave their football program an unfair advantage, but UNC and Auburn should have all theirs wins vacated and fined and loss of scholarships but now the standard for that seems to be Sandusky or Hitler to actually do something to a program that cheats

I think you're missing that part where UNC did have wins vacated, were ineligible for postseasons, and had a bunch of players declared ineligible. Maybe it wasn't harsh enough for you, but it's certainly more than any SEC school will get anytime soon.

Norfolking Chance: At the top teams in College Football the athletes are professionals so why don't they get paid? It's not like they are actually getting an education.

You have no f*cking idea what you're talking about.  Stick your head back up your ass where it belongs.

i hope they got the cash, they deserve it.

now the grade change thing is farked up, especially since auburn has "graduated" illiterate players in the past.

You constantly hear rumblings about all not being well for Auburn in the eyes of the NCAA in the wake of the Cam Newton affair.  I would think that if the NCAA could prove anything, they would have acted already.

/Still think Auburn is dirty.
//So are probably most successful Div-I football programs

tennessee.hillbilly: You constantly hear rumblings about all not being well for Auburn in the eyes of the NCAA in the wake of the Cam Newton affair.  I would think that if the NCAA could prove anything, they would have acted already.

NCAA has shown recently that they don't need to actually prove anything to levy punishment.

ILostMyPassword: WillofJ2: Just look at chapel hill (UNC for those non north carolina people) for a school with so much scandalous behavior and no penalties its nuts what schools get away with.

The penn state thing, I am still not sure gave their football program an unfair advantage, but UNC and Auburn should have all theirs wins vacated and fined and loss of scholarships but now the standard for that seems to be Sandusky or Hitler to actually do something to a program that cheats

I think you're missing that part where UNC did have wins vacated, were ineligible for postseasons, and had a bunch of players declared ineligible. Maybe it wasn't harsh enough for you, but it's certainly more than any SEC school will get anytime soon.

It wasn't harsh enough for me; I wanted to see Baddour and Nyang'Oro properly punished for what they did to the university.  The problem with punishing people like that, is they're typically well into successful careers and their pensions are protected, and they've already made their ill-gotten gains.  So they take a small hit from the scandal, "resign under a cloud of suspicion", and at worst walk into retirement a couple of years early (you could argue that Paterno's health rapidly declined once his reason for existing was taken away, that the scandal destroyed what was left of his health as well as his reputation).

I also want to see the next chancellor put in place some actual methods of monitoring for compliance, and I want all athletes' tutors and advisors to be handled through the General College and NOT the athletic department.  Hell, I would love to see the Athletic Department folded into Student Affairs (Gordon Gee may have shiat the bed at Ohio State, but that was a very astute thing he did at Vanderbilt), but I don't expect for a minute it would happen, though.  I also want to see some change at both the Board of Governors and the Board of Trustees, because the search for a new chancellor needs to be handled such that we never get a Thorp/Baddour level of incompetence and corruption ever again, and because that incompetence has now proven to extend beyond athletics and into general university operation (I wish those ladies all the luck and success in the world in dealing with the so-called Honor Court).


/also, it's hilarious to hear someone from Durham biatch about UNC "getting away" with anything - when, exactly, was Duke held liable for playing Corey Magette when he was found to be clearly ineligible?

From Wikipedia:

On March 31st, 2006, Roberts was one of the first to report on the Duke Lacrosse Case. Roberts criticized the University, as well as the team, for a culture that prohibited "snitching" on the then-alleged (now exonerated) lacrosse players. Accusations of sexism and racism followed in later articles. The accused players were later cleared of any [wrongdoing,] and the lead prosecutor [Nifong] was later. Roberts has never admitted or apologized for her remarks.

Yeah, she seems super credible

Let's do things this way:

NCAA continues to not pay athletes, but resumes the old tradition of having student-athletes actually be students at the school first and foremost - no special courses bullsh*t, no special admissions standards, etc.

All the super-athletes who aren't capable of legitimately attending college go into a pre-NFL league, since the NFL wants to be dicks about everything and try to eliminate all risk for teams.

Those who are good athletes but are capable of attending college can choose between the two paths based on what they think will be best for them and their future.

/NCAA will have to have higher minimum standards for students as well - otherwise Boise State Community College will become even more powerful

I'm pretty sure Charles Barkley once said, "I made more money in college [playing for Auburn] than I ever did in the NBA."

Obvious tag was on spring break?

IAmRight: All the super-athletes who aren't capable of legitimately attending college go into a pre-NFL league, since the NFL wants to be dicks about everything and try to eliminate all risk for teams.

The problem with that is, football teams are expensive to operate, and unless the NFL is willing to pour money into another minor league system it's not going to work.  The UFL is still trying to finish last year's schedule, but I doubt they'll ever play another game again.  Maybe someone can knock some sense into the league office and they'll restart NFL Europe, seeing as how they're so farking desperate to grow the brand over there.

How soon till the API fans so claiming the author is a HUGE Bama/UGA fan?  Oh that's right,,,,,,she graduated from API

kwame: Norfolking Chance: At the top teams in College Football the athletes are professionals so why don't they get paid? It's not like they are actually getting an education.

You have no f*cking idea what you're talking about.  Stick your head back up your ass where it belongs.

I guess you missed out on the part where NCAA football became nothing more than a glorified farm system for the NFL over the last 50 years or so.

Aar1012: But no one traded anything for tattoos, right? Please assure me that such a horrible thing never happened

/At this rate, Jim Tressel would just have to show the logos of Auburn, Miami, and Penn State at a show cause hearing and just say 'Really? Do I need to say anything more?'
//Then show the logo of the NCAA if he does since they'll botch ny investigation like they did Miami

You think it was about the tats huh? Technically the tats led to your boy doing all that lying and stuff so if you want it to be all about tats I guess you'll sleep better.

UNC_Samurai: The problem with that is, football teams are expensive to operate, and unless the NFL is willing to pour money into another minor league system it's not going to work.  The UFL is still trying to finish last year's schedule, but I doubt they'll ever play another game again.

Of course it's expensive. The NFL can do their own damn work, though. They're also profiting off the current system - they could've used the UFL cities to have all these players get some play.

BTW, with this system going on, people are going to learn real quick that it really is the university that is the reason for the money rolling in, not the individual players. For example, right now people can go play in at least the AFL right away (don't remember if that's the case for the UFL as well), but honestly, you'll make more money in college (they do get a stipend).

IAmRight: but honestly, you'll make more money in college

Well yeah, everybody knows Shaq made all his money in college.

Aar1012: But no one traded anything for tattoos, right? Please assure me that such a horrible thing never happened

/At this rate, Jim Tressel would just have to show the logos of Auburn, Miami, and Penn State at a show cause hearing and just say 'Really? Do I need to say anything more?'
//Then show the logo of the NCAA if he does since they'll botch ny investigation like they did Miami

he still have to explain why he signed documents assuring his employers and the ncaa that he knew of no violations and that all his players were eligible even though he had exchanged emails about the players receiving impermissible benefits.  false statements are false statements and are frowned upon in this establishment.

/the cover-up is always worse, just ask penn state...

UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: but honestly, you'll make more money in college

Well yeah, everybody knows Shaq made all his money in college.

Median AFL2 salary (AFL is bankrupt, last I checked) is about $250/week. Once you take into account the room/board compensation and the basic stipend, you are in fact better off staying in college.

The Muthaship: A Fark Handle: the cover-up is always worse, just ask penn state...

I agree the cover up at PSU was bad, but worse than 20+ years of child rape?

i didn't mean that.  i meant that penn state wouldn't have had the ncaa wanting to curb stomping it, if they hadn't covered up 20+ years kiddy rape.  and that's also what happened at ohio state.  free tats are frowned upon, but a head coach lying and then playing players he knows to be ineligible will result in the ncaa coming down much much harder.

R.I.P. Ball State football program

Charles Barkley also said that nobody at Auburn ever gave a shiat about his GPA or class attendance as long as he got 20 rebounds a game.

Lost Thought 00: Median AFL2 salary (AFL is bankrupt, last I checked) is about $250/week. Once you take into account the room/board compensation and the basic stipend, you are in fact better off staying in college.

AFL's been back for three years and the af2 has been gone just as long.

Now you make $800/week, but you have to find your own housing/meals/rides wherever you're playing. And you only get paid for weeks where you have a game. And you really don't get anything for free. And no one takes you seriously.

/worked for an AFL team the year the AFL came back