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(The Sun)   Some spineless brute with a knife stabs his childhood pal leaving him paralyzed. Saudi Arabian court decides to go the "eye for an eye" route   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 200
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2013-04-03 11:53:09 PM

super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: An ancient sheet of paper with more things carved out of it than a thanksgiving turkey?

We're talking about the bible, now?

Yeah, now we don't have to abstain from pork. That's a good thing.


But we can still hate gays and nonbelievers! Jackpot!
 
2013-04-03 11:58:17 PM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: An ancient sheet of paper with more things carved out of it than a thanksgiving turkey?

We're talking about the bible, now?

Yeah, now we don't have to abstain from pork. That's a good thing.

But we can still hate gays and nonbelievers! Jackpot!


YAY BIBLE BASHING!  Hey, a small portion of atheists don't support inter racial marriages, so IN YOUR FACE ALL ATHEISTS!

/atheist
//not a militant one
 
2013-04-03 11:59:42 PM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: An ancient sheet of paper with more things carved out of it than a thanksgiving turkey?

We're talking about the bible, now?

Yeah, now we don't have to abstain from pork. That's a good thing.

But we can still hate gays and nonbelievers! Jackpot!


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Oh man, you sure showed these dumb saudi christians!
 
2013-04-04 12:20:12 AM

super_grass: Oh man, you sure showed these dumb saudi christians!


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2013-04-04 12:27:25 AM

fusillade762: When was the last time we executed a 14-year-old?


August 28, 1955

June 16, 1944

So, in living memory.

And it is quite possible he was innocent. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/03/new-evidence-could-clear-14-yea r -old-executed-by-south-carolina/
 
2013-04-04 12:29:50 AM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: Oh man, you sure showed these dumb saudi christians!

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I think that was his point.
 
2013-04-04 12:32:00 AM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: Oh man, you sure showed these dumb saudi christians!

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I'd accuse you of playing dumb, but I'm not so sure about the 'playing' part.
 
2013-04-04 12:36:05 AM

seventypercent: "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'. But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:38-39)

(Granted, the teachings of Jesus are not particularly popular among his followers.)


Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.  Luke 22:36
 
2013-04-04 12:46:10 AM

super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: Oh man, you sure showed these dumb saudi christians!

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I'd accuse you of playing dumb, but I'm not so sure about the 'playing' part.


My post was a direct response to your absurd statement.

So, again.

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Maybe you can cry to the mods like you did over your posts where you justified the Holocaust as the Jews fault.
 
2013-04-04 12:53:39 AM

hardinparamedic: BarkingUnicorn: Comparison of Saudi and U. S. Crimes Rates, with rankings among other nations.

The Eighth Amendment of the United States Constitution.


So that explains the differences in crime rates? :-)

Also, punishment is not the sole variable.  Cultural differences factor into the equation too.
 
2013-04-04 12:54:48 AM

super_grass: hardinparamedic: BarkingUnicorn: Comparison of Saudi and U. S. Crimes Rates, with rankings among other nations.

The Eighth Amendment of the United States Constitution.

An ancient sheet of paper with more things carved out of it than a thanksgiving turkey?


No, dullard, a living, ever-evolving social contract.
 
2013-04-04 12:57:40 AM

Skywolf the Scribbler: This is true historically, as well, and is something I have been studying. Robert Frost, my favorite poet, thought in abstract terms and took on personal responsibility from age sixteen on. One of the U.S. presidents, I believe it was Quincy Adams, had the Bible memorized at age 8 and successfully debated it with elderly delegates at age ten. For the longest while, I've supposed that age and responsibility is a social construct; however, I am currently seeing data that suggests the cerebral cortex is not developed until after the adolescent years. This empirical data seems to conflict with historical data and present-day examples of responsible and abstract-thinking adolescents, which confuses me.


One can see things in tea leaves as well as in data.
 
2013-04-04 01:08:57 AM

MisterRonbo: fusillade762: When was the last time we executed a 14-year-old?

August 28, 1955

June 16, 1944

So, in living memory.

And it is quite possible he was innocent. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/03/new-evidence-could-clear-14-yea r -old-executed-by-south-carolina/


It's pretty clear-cut he didn't get a fair trial. Or indeed any trial. The only real question now is what scumbag got away with murdering two little girls and died comfortably in his bed because a little boy was electrocuted in his place.
 
2013-04-04 01:10:17 AM
I'm sure some of you bloodthirsty assholes who are celebrating this would just love to wield the scalpel, too. Like Josef Mengele. Sickening.

Fact is that most of the time a stabbing doesn't result in paralysis. The victim in this case just got unlucky. Unless you're  happy to deliberately paralyse every knife assailant because "Hey, she only knifed him in the spleen but he could have been paralysed!11!1!", the punishment for the same crime is going to vary not because of intent, but because of blind chance.

For that matter, sometimes a person gets paralysed due to a single freak punch. So logically, if Billy Bob, 14, punches Cletus in the school playground he should have an incision made in his spinal cord, amirite? Between which vertebrae?
 
2013-04-04 01:10:28 AM
They should get the Iron Sheikh or Sergent Slaughter to do a backbreaker to him/


BAH GAWD KING, HES BROKEN IN HALF!
 
2013-04-04 01:19:32 AM

Trapper439: I'm sure some of you bloodthirsty assholes who are celebrating this would just love to wield the scalpel, too. Like Josef Mengele. Sickening.

Fact is that most of the time a stabbing doesn't result in paralysis. The victim in this case just got unlucky. Unless you're  happy to deliberately paralyse every knife assailant because "Hey, she only knifed him in the spleen but he could have been paralysed!11!1!", the punishment for the same crime is going to vary not because of intent, but because of blind chance.

For that matter, sometimes a person gets paralysed due to a single freak punch. So logically, if Billy Bob, 14, punches Cletus in the school playground he should have an incision made in his spinal cord, amirite? Between which vertebrae?


The assumed intent of stabbing someone is to kill them. The criminal should not receive mercy due to his incompetence.
 
2013-04-04 01:19:41 AM

i.r.id10t: seventypercent: "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'. But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:38-39)

(Granted, the teachings of Jesus are not particularly popular among his followers.)

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.  Luke 22:36


That verse is often cherry-picked.  Luke 22:36-38:

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That's enough!" he replied.

Jesus wanted sword rather badly.  When he learned there were two already present he said, "That's enough," rescinding his order to sell cloaks and buy swords.  Two swords were not enough for an armed rebellion or to defend Jesus; they were enough to fulfill the prophecy.  They were symbolic. Possession of swords was a mark of criminals.  Isaiah foretold that the Messiah would be labeled a criminal ("numbered with the transgressors").
 
2013-04-04 01:21:08 AM

Gyrfalcon: MisterRonbo: fusillade762: When was the last time we executed a 14-year-old?

August 28, 1955

June 16, 1944

So, in living memory.

And it is quite possible he was innocent. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/03/new-evidence-could-clear-14-yea r -old-executed-by-south-carolina/

It's pretty clear-cut he didn't get a fair trial. Or indeed any trial. The only real question now is what scumbag got away with murdering two little girls and died comfortably in his bed because a little boy was electrocuted in his place.


Damn you, Obama!
 
2013-04-04 01:22:47 AM

Daedalus27: impaler: impaler: Funny how those that preach and preach that taxes are bad, because the government can't do anything right, and are perfectly willing to give government the ability to enact blood revenge.

FTFM

I would say it goes to the protection of society from enemies being the main critical function of government and one of the sole reasons taxes should be collected (as stated by the most extremist members of this viewpoint).  That is why they tend to be strongly pro-defense.  Punishing criminals is an extension of defending the nation from the domestic enemies who are interfering with the members of society.


Good theory, but it's more about authoritarianism.

Link
 
2013-04-04 01:23:18 AM

Gyrfalcon: But not everyone's mindset has advanced past the medieval village, not even here in modern, 21st century America.


Amen to that.
 
2013-04-04 01:28:11 AM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: Oh man, you sure showed these dumb saudi christians!

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I'd accuse you of playing dumb, but I'm not so sure about the 'playing' part.

My post was a direct response to your absurd statement.

So, again.

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Maybe you can cry to the mods like you did over your posts where you justified the Holocaust as the Jews fault.


Thread's about whether or not the Saudi response to one of their criminals is appropriate and you somehow turn that into half-assed attacks on Christians for not following their doctrine, as if that was somehow relevant.

You must have as much self awareness of the guy's soon to be paralyzed lower half.
 
2013-04-04 01:33:12 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Maybe Saudis expect 14 year-olds to act like adults and raise them to do so.


uhm, yeah.  I said as much in my post.    In Arabia they might be adults, in western nations they are babies.  The truth is probably somewhere in between.
 
2013-04-04 01:59:11 AM

mexican bathtub cheese: Can we please nuke this shiathole off my planet now?


I think I found half the problem.

/The other half is "god's planet".
 
2013-04-04 01:59:44 AM
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2013-04-04 02:02:18 AM

super_grass: Thread's about whether or not the Saudi response to one of their criminals is appropriate and you somehow turn that into half-assed attacks on Christians for not following their doctrine, as if that was somehow relevant.

You must have as much self awareness of the guy's soon to be paralyzed lower half.


So because I make a mocking and absurd comment in response to your absurd comment about how the United States Constitution prevents you from getting your bloodlust on, I'm somehow "attacking Christians" because I treat you with about as much seriousness as I ever have?

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Your post, especially the part about the imaginary "Saudi Christian" strawmen, makes about as much since as a Glenn Beck chalkboard flowchart.

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This is you. You are now Glenn Beck.
 
2013-04-04 02:20:10 AM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: Thread's about whether or not the Saudi response to one of their criminals is appropriate and you somehow turn that into half-assed attacks on Christians for not following their doctrine, as if that was somehow relevant.

You must have as much self awareness of the guy's soon to be paralyzed lower half.

So because I make a mocking and absurd comment in response to your absurd comment about how the United States Constitution prevents you from getting your bloodlust on, I'm somehow "attacking Christians" because I treat you with about as much seriousness as I ever have?

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Your post, especially the part about the imaginary "Saudi Christian" strawmen, makes about as much since as a Glenn Beck chalkboard flowchart.

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This is you. You are now Glenn Beck.

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I.. I wasn't serious! And I never cared about what you s... said! Oh by the way, you're dumb! You're a dumb-dumb that I don't take ser... seriously... like GLENN BECK! Ha, that sh... showed you! Um... strawman, strawman!
 
2013-04-04 02:33:11 AM
It's always a little troubling to read the internet mouth breathers' emotional word vomit that governments should brutally kill people.

We're truly only living in the initial stages of civilized society, if we can even call it that.
 
2013-04-04 02:38:42 AM

impaler: Daedalus27: impaler: impaler: Funny how those that preach and preach that taxes are bad, because the government can't do anything right, and are perfectly willing to give government the ability to enact blood revenge.

FTFM

I would say it goes to the protection of society from enemies being the main critical function of government and one of the sole reasons taxes should be collected (as stated by the most extremist members of this viewpoint).  That is why they tend to be strongly pro-defense.  Punishing criminals is an extension of defending the nation from the domestic enemies who are interfering with the members of society.

Good theory, but it's more about authoritarianism.

Link


While that may be a criticism about the present conservative movement, generally speaking there has always been a tinge of "law and order" to it that I think stems from the desire to defend against threats internal and external.  Counting on authoritative control is all well and good when your party controls the levers of power.  Right now they aren't so thrilled with the Democratic control and Obama's drone strike kill lists and such. Of course being short sighted tends to be part and parcel of the present repubilcan leadership (and politicians in general).
 
2013-04-04 03:43:32 AM

super_grass: I.. I wasn't serious! And I never cared about what you s... said! Oh by the way, you're dumb! You're a dumb-dumb that I don't take ser... seriously... like GLENN BECK! Ha, that sh... showed you! Um... strawman, strawman!


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Ladies and gentlemen, the internet crusader. Able to cry to the mods and have his posts removed when he realizes they'll be used against him in the future. Defends genocide, brutality, torture and violence in a single keystroke!

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2013-04-04 03:54:27 AM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: I.. I wasn't serious! And I never cared about what you s... said! Oh by the way, you're dumb! You're a dumb-dumb that I don't take ser... seriously... like GLENN BECK! Ha, that sh... showed you! Um... strawman, strawman!

[cyberstalkerhelp.files.wordpress.com image 271x299]

Ladies and gentlemen, the internet crusader. Able to cry to the mods and have his posts removed when he realizes they'll be used against him in the future. Defends genocide, brutality, torture and violence in a single keystroke!

[u18chan.com image 311x313]


Ho-lee-shiat, have you been grinding that axe for almost a month?  Time to get yourself diagnosed, son. Modern pharmaceuticals can do wonders for high-functioning autism, or in your case, a terminal case of the buttmad.
 
2013-04-04 03:57:00 AM

mexican bathtub cheese: Can we please nuke this shiathole off my planet now?


How dare you question a trusted and close ally of the United States you terrorist scum.
 
2013-04-04 04:15:35 AM

super_grass: Ho-lee-shiat, have you been grinding that axe for almost a month?  Time to get yourself diagnosed, son. Modern pharmaceuticals can do wonders for high-functioning autism, or in your case, a terminal case of the buttmad.


Ah, so you're also an internet doctor capable of diagnosing people you've never met with a disease they don't even fit in the spectrum of?

You've spent this thread championing and defending torture for the sake of bloodlust. Why wouldn't I point out something that I have you FARKied for?

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There's no axe to grind, and no "buttmad" as you try to claim. Only pointing out a continuing pattern of you're either being completely stupid and inhuman - in which case you really should seek help from a psychiatrist before you murder someone, or shoot up a small rural Connecticut school; or you're choosing the most offensive topics you can defend to troll.

Which is it? Be honest.
 
2013-04-04 04:50:34 AM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: Ho-lee-shiat, have you been grinding that axe for almost a month?  Time to get yourself diagnosed, son. Modern pharmaceuticals can do wonders for high-functioning autism, or in your case, a terminal case of the buttmad.

Ah, so you're also an internet doctor capable of diagnosing people you've never met with a disease they don't even fit in the spectrum of?

You've spent this thread championing and defending torture for the sake of bloodlust. Why wouldn't I point out something that I have you FARKied for?

[i.imgur.com image 363x42]

There's no axe to grind, and no "buttmad" as you try to claim. Only pointing out a continuing pattern of you're either being completely stupid and inhuman - in which case you really should seek help from a psychiatrist before you murder someone, or shoot up a small rural Connecticut school; or you're choosing the most offensive topics you can defend to troll.

Which is it? Be honest.



Oh dear god, you're serious.

Let me guess: Jew, Ukrainian, or Armenian? You're clearly on the internet to defend his proud, fallen people from another shoah/holomodor/officially unrecognized historical event. Come on, out with it, and I'll school you accordingly before I get the last word.

Protip: Israel does not officially recognize the Armenian genocide and the Ukrainian dirt farmers picked a fight against a world power in order to whiteknight their land-owning barons and were rightfully put in their place.

i628.photobucket.com

Now bath me with your tears of ineffectual rage. Comrade Stalin demands your quota!
 
2013-04-04 05:04:06 AM
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2013-04-04 05:09:52 AM

super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: Ho-lee-shiat, have you been grinding that axe for almost a month?  Time to get yourself diagnosed, son. Modern pharmaceuticals can do wonders for high-functioning autism, or in your case, a terminal case of the buttmad.

Ah, so you're also an internet doctor capable of diagnosing people you've never met with a disease they don't even fit in the spectrum of?

You've spent this thread championing and defending torture for the sake of bloodlust. Why wouldn't I point out something that I have you FARKied for?

[i.imgur.com image 363x42]

There's no axe to grind, and no "buttmad" as you try to claim. Only pointing out a continuing pattern of you're either being completely stupid and inhuman - in which case you really should seek help from a psychiatrist before you murder someone, or shoot up a small rural Connecticut school; or you're choosing the most offensive topics you can defend to troll.

Which is it? Be honest.


Oh dear god, you're serious.

Let me guess: Jew, Ukrainian, or Armenian? You're clearly on the internet to defend his proud, fallen people from another shoah/holomodor/officially unrecognized historical event. Come on, out with it, and I'll school you accordingly before I get the last word.

Protip: Israel does not officially recognize the Armenian genocide and the Ukrainian dirt farmers picked a fight against a world power in order to whiteknight their land-owning barons and were rightfully put in their place.

[i628.photobucket.com image 309x360]

Now bath me with your tears of ineffectual rage. Comrade Stalin demands your quota!


You are garbage.
 
2013-04-04 05:19:05 AM

super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: Ho-lee-shiat, have you been grinding that axe for almost a month?  Time to get yourself diagnosed, son. Modern pharmaceuticals can do wonders for high-functioning autism, or in your case, a terminal case of the buttmad.

Ah, so you're also an internet doctor capable of diagnosing people you've never met with a disease they don't even fit in the spectrum of?

You've spent this thread championing and defending torture for the sake of bloodlust. Why wouldn't I point out something that I have you FARKied for?

[i.imgur.com image 363x42]

There's no axe to grind, and no "buttmad" as you try to claim. Only pointing out a continuing pattern of you're either being completely stupid and inhuman - in which case you really should seek help from a psychiatrist before you murder someone, or shoot up a small rural Connecticut school; or you're choosing the most offensive topics you can defend to troll.

Which is it? Be honest.


Oh dear god, you're serious.

Let me guess: Jew, Ukrainian, or Armenian? You're clearly on the internet to defend his proud, fallen people from another shoah/holomodor/officially unrecognized historical event. Come on, out with it, and I'll school you accordingly before I get the last word.

Protip: Israel does not officially recognize the Armenian genocide and the Ukrainian dirt farmers picked a fight against a world power in order to whiteknight their land-owning barons and were rightfully put in their place.

[i628.photobucket.com image 309x360]

Now bath me with your tears of ineffectual rage. Comrade Stalin demands your quota!


None of the above. I'm a mixture of sixth generation Italian and third generation Spanish. If you want to hash out religious origins, I'm half "We get to use condoms" Episcopalian and half Hellfire and Brimstone Baptist.

Also, I really don't give a flying fark what Israel thinks.

But yes. I agree with Abacus9. You're garbage. And a really, blatantly, obvious troll.
 
2013-04-04 05:22:43 AM

Abacus9: super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: Ho-lee-shiat, have you been grinding that axe for almost a month?  Time to get yourself diagnosed, son. Modern pharmaceuticals can do wonders for high-functioning autism, or in your case, a terminal case of the buttmad.

Ah, so you're also an internet doctor capable of diagnosing people you've never met with a disease they don't even fit in the spectrum of?

You've spent this thread championing and defending torture for the sake of bloodlust. Why wouldn't I point out something that I have you FARKied for?

[i.imgur.com image 363x42]

There's no axe to grind, and no "buttmad" as you try to claim. Only pointing out a continuing pattern of you're either being completely stupid and inhuman - in which case you really should seek help from a psychiatrist before you murder someone, or shoot up a small rural Connecticut school; or you're choosing the most offensive topics you can defend to troll.

Which is it? Be honest.


Oh dear god, you're serious.

Let me guess: Jew, Ukrainian, or Armenian? You're clearly on the internet to defend his proud, fallen people from another shoah/holomodor/officially unrecognized historical event. Come on, out with it, and I'll school you accordingly before I get the last word.

Protip: Israel does not officially recognize the Armenian genocide and the Ukrainian dirt farmers picked a fight against a world power in order to whiteknight their land-owning barons and were rightfully put in their place.

[i628.photobucket.com image 309x360]

Now bath me with your tears of ineffectual rage. Comrade Stalin demands your quota!

You are garbage.


Garbage is the guy that the Saudis plan to paralyze. Don't tell me you're not excited or even okay to see his legs get taken away!
 
2013-04-04 05:27:59 AM

hardinparamedic: super_grass: hardinparamedic: super_grass: Ho-lee-shiat, have you been grinding that axe for almost a month?  Time to get yourself diagnosed, son. Modern pharmaceuticals can do wonders for high-functioning autism, or in your case, a terminal case of the buttmad.

Ah, so you're also an internet doctor capable of diagnosing people you've never met with a disease they don't even fit in the spectrum of?

You've spent this thread championing and defending torture for the sake of bloodlust. Why wouldn't I point out something that I have you FARKied for?

[i.imgur.com image 363x42]

There's no axe to grind, and no "buttmad" as you try to claim. Only pointing out a continuing pattern of you're either being completely stupid and inhuman - in which case you really should seek help from a psychiatrist before you murder someone, or shoot up a small rural Connecticut school; or you're choosing the most offensive topics you can defend to troll.

Which is it? Be honest.


Oh dear god, you're serious.

Let me guess: Jew, Ukrainian, or Armenian? You're clearly on the internet to defend his proud, fallen people from another shoah/holomodor/officially unrecognized historical event. Come on, out with it, and I'll school you accordingly before I get the last word.

Protip: Israel does not officially recognize the Armenian genocide and the Ukrainian dirt farmers picked a fight against a world power in order to whiteknight their land-owning barons and were rightfully put in their place.

[i628.photobucket.com image 309x360]

Now bath me with your tears of ineffectual rage. Comrade Stalin demands your quota!

None of the above. I'm a mixture of sixth generation Italian and third generation Spanish. If you want to hash out religious origins, I'm half "We get to use condoms" Episcopalian and half Hellfire and Brimstone Baptist.

Also, I really don't give a flying fark what Israel thinks.

But yes. I agree with Abacus9. You're garbage. And a really, blatantly, obvious troll.


Finally conceding, eh?

I knew you got nothing aside from ad hominems. Even the Ukranians made a stand before volunteering for the slaughter. Not even with your sock puppet can you actually make a coherent point.

Weak troll, 3/10. Now welcome to my ignore list.
 
2013-04-04 05:28:35 AM

super_grass: Garbage is the guy that the Saudis plan to paralyze. Don't tell me you're not excited or even okay to see his legs get taken away!


Why would I be okay with that, again?

Oh, that's right. I live in a modern, first world country who's founders lived in an age of arbitrary torture and murder at the will of their monarchs and barons, and at the scamper of the various religious factions of Europe. People who realized 224 years before we were having this conversation that mutliation, torture, and barbarism solved nothing, and thus created the 4th, 5th, and 8th Amendments, despite their flaws as men.

So no. I'm not okay with it.

It solves nothing. It does not prevent further crimes. It does not serve the benefit of society. It does nothing but uphold the assinine and backwards belief of a national people that, without the benefit of oil money, would be shanking themselves for a little slice of the desert to consider their fiefdoms rather than playing the pipe of "Dance Puppets, Dance".

There is nothing "Just" about severing the spine of a man. Hell. Shooting him in the head and leaving him to die would be more humane and serve justice far more.
 
2013-04-04 05:41:25 AM

super_grass: Garbage is the guy that the Saudis plan to paralyze. Don't tell me you're not excited or even okay to see his legs get taken away!


As I stated, I'm okay with it. I'm not frothing-at-the-mouth giddy about it. Their country, their laws, and the guy has it coming.
 
2013-04-04 05:46:13 AM

GreenSun: Personally, if someone steals, I don't think chopping off his hands would be satisfying enough. If someone stole $1,000,000 from me, I'd rather have the money back and have the guy imprisoned rather than see him get his hands chopped off, which is pretty worthless to me.


How about both of those things? Would that make you happy?

The idea is to prevent crime from happening in the first place. I think chopping the legs off USA gang-bangers then putting them back out on the street might have a more chilling effect on gang membership than simply putting people out of sight for a couple of years (only to reappear with a few more tattoos then carry on as before).
 
2013-04-04 05:47:54 AM

hardinparamedic: There is nothing "Just" about severing the spine of a man. Hell. Shooting him in the head and leaving him to die would be more humane and serve justice far more.


But be less of a deterrent to anybody else who's thinking about sticking knives in people.
 
2013-04-04 06:23:03 AM

Joce678: The idea is to prevent crime from happening in the first place. I think chopping the legs off USA gang-bangers then putting them back out on the street might have a more chilling effect on gang membership than simply putting people out of sight for a couple of years (only to reappear with a few more tattoos then carry on as before).


Any gang-banger would be freaked out by seeing severed legs in the street.
 
2013-04-04 07:14:49 AM
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2013-04-04 07:59:51 AM

Joce678: GreenSun: Personally, if someone steals, I don't think chopping off his hands would be satisfying enough. If someone stole $1,000,000 from me, I'd rather have the money back and have the guy imprisoned rather than see him get his hands chopped off, which is pretty worthless to me.

How about both of those things? Would that make you happy?

The idea is to prevent crime from happening in the first place. I think chopping the legs off USA gang-bangers then putting them back out on the street might have a more chilling effect on gang membership than simply putting people out of sight for a couple of years (only to reappear with a few more tattoos then carry on as before).


Why stop at gang-bangers? We could also do it to tax-evaders, speeders, jay-walkers*...

We could be a crime/leg free society in no time.

*Would be very effective at stopping recidivism with this crime.
 
2013-04-04 09:15:22 AM

Lord Snoopy's G.P.E.H.: Why didn't he just come out once, and scream it?


How is there no "done in one" here? 
That's beautiful.  Perfect.
I mean... the reference isn't obscure, is it?  Is it?

/is it?
 
2013-04-04 10:22:31 AM
I'm pretty much OK with this.

Imagine the reduction in recidivism in the US if violent criminals had to suffer the same bodily harm they routinely inflict on innocent people on a daily basis.

After a couple rounds of that mess, I don't imagine they'd be able to muster the strength to pull it off.
 
2013-04-04 11:22:43 AM
The middle east is a bloody turd in the bottom of the toilet bowl of humanity.
 
2013-04-04 12:04:40 PM

hardinparamedic: "Sharia Law" as used by paranoid right-wing idiots does not mean what you think it means.


That's the joke, see. The foot-sink worriers in Tennessee are ignorant charklefarks.

/I was impressed as hell that my phone spell-corrected "Shari'a" for me.
 
2013-04-04 03:33:24 PM

Daedalus27: malaktaus: If you support the death penalty- and, what, 85% of Americans do?- why would you consider this sick?

Because there was no death involved in this case, only horrific injury.  The death penalty is about harm reduction by eliminating the most dangerous individuals from society so that they cannot commit any future harm.  So far the penalty (10 years in jail and 1m in restitution) doesn't seem too far off from what he may get in many countries. The only difference is the paralyzation if he doesn't pay up and that seems excessive and counterproductive as you will be unable to collect the restitution if the criminal cannot meaningfully work anymore (please note, I know paralyzed individuals can be productive members of the workforce, but this is a unskilled person with a criminal record so that the job prospects are minimal beyond manual labor which has been taken away as a job catagory if he is paralyzed)


Why? If he gets into a chair they can push him around with heavy loads like a trolley.
 
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