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2013-04-03 10:03:27 PM  

CygnusDarius: Meisaims: I feel actual solace knowing that if Korea starts nuking the US, I'll at least have a really interesting time reading the response on Fark.

I actually don't want to read those comments. It will be depressing.


"Oh shiat, I've been nuked, but inextricably my internet is still working despite the EMP."
 
2013-04-03 10:03:47 PM  

Infernalist: bluorangefyre: Wolfling: This is China's place...they need to intervene and just take over in NK.  If they really want to be a world power, this is the price they have to pay...you keep order in your own backyard...

Quite frankly, I think China is the one turning the key in Un's back.  Their leaders must be ROFLing about all this.  Look at it from their perspective... Duhmerica will step in and eliminate the NK leadership structure, destabilise the country for 10 years - who cares?  In the meantime, they'll get to closely study the latest in American Nuke defense and stealth technology, right on their own doorstep.  In terms of testing their equipment, it couldn't get any better... and I think you can safely trust that plenty of current Chinese equipment will be tested from within NK's borders.

BUT what if we don't take the nukular bait and just bomb them with conventional weapons?  Really that's all it'd take if 99% of the country has no electricity.

Take that one step further.  China has NO desire to see American troops pour over into NK.  If NK kicks over a war, that's exactly what happens...if the Chinese don't do it first.

And they honestly have no desire to have to go in and annex NK into China, but they'd rather do that than see a united Korea under American patronage.  NK and its starving masses would be a huge drain on the Chinese economy.

Granted, if they threw a ton of money at NK after it was annexed, they could eventually reap the benefits of their RRE wealth, but that's at least 10 years of heavy infrastructure rebuilding down the road.

If you look at all the facts, you'll see that China is just as mad about this as we are, but for their own reasons.  NK is supposed to be the loudly barking dog that never bites.  And it's trying to slip its leash and bite someone with a big gun.


Plus I'm sure they don't want fallout falling onto their country.
 
2013-04-03 10:03:49 PM  
I swear, I always end up with one of those North Korean Generals sitting in front of me at the movies.
 
2013-04-03 10:04:07 PM  

somedude210: ha-ha-guy: All out war is not ideal, but really as history has shown to get of an entrenched military dictatorship you at least need to strong encourage them to exit stage left.  You can buy off some of them, but you at least need the threat of a bombing campaign to really have them move.  Depending on how crazy they really are, one or two might need to get a visit from Mr. JDAM to convince the others to leave.

I honestly think that if Kim was allowed to rule without the Generals around, he could actually reform the country and open relations with the outside world. But for that to happen, we need to oust the Generals

Think Emperor Hirohito post-war japan. Something like that. Keep Kim as ruler but make NK neutered militarily and open trade relations with it. Do so as a joint US/China effort and we could quell most tensions in East Asia for 15-20 years.


China has no desire to see NK friendly with the U.S.  NK is their buffer zone and a proxy to rile the Americans when they see fit.

Make no mistake about it, the Chinese are pissed off at Un right now, but only because he's not following orders.
 
2013-04-03 10:04:23 PM  

CygnusDarius: Meisaims: I feel actual solace knowing that if Korea starts nuking the US, I'll at least have a really interesting time reading the response on Fark.

I actually don't want to read those comments. It will be depressing.


Holy shiat. He did it. The little fat fark actually did it. And he succeeded?!

Grab some popcorn, the US response is going to be entertaining!
 
2013-04-03 10:05:04 PM  

Girion47: Bontesla: Girion47: Bontesla: Girion47: Bontesla: Girion47: Bontesla: jjwars1: Bontesla: The more he moves toward war - the more I'm thinking that he had something up his sleeve.

Yeah, I have that same feeling. It seems most everyone here thinks this is some opportunity to laugh and joke about the situation by mocking N. Korea. I don't think they should underestimate Korea's capabilities though. If I were ruling an underdog nation I would purposefully mislead intelligence, build allies, make myself and the country look weak and incapable, build an arsenal on foreign and domestic soil, and launch an attack on my enemies infrastructure, kill the Internet, release airborn biological weapons, chemical, and nukes from outside my own country.

Agreed. Even if they don't have nuclear capabilities - they certainly have the potential to inflict damage. Lil Kim was educated in what - Switzerland? He's had exposure beyond his little bubble.

Either he's truly the world's worst poker player or we're underestimating him.

And certainly - he's got to know that they would not survive (as a country) in this conflict.

If this were a novel - I would be writing that Lil Kim is looking to either hide or expose something heinous. Perhaps Lil Kim has gotten word that his administration is being investigated for a genocide and a war is a really great way to get other people to destroy damning evidence?

Wouldn't be a disaster thread without you!

/Got Bonnaroo tix, Macklemore will be there.
//Headed down to ATL on Friday, is the Clermont as awesome as claimed?

Oh my goodness! Have an amazing time.
I'm sooo envious! Is this your first time in Atlanta??

No it's not my first time there, but it will be my first "vacation" there.   I've done the aquarium/CNN HQ and a few restaurants while traveling through, but that was with co-workers.

There's this AMAZING place called Porter House. They have like over 800 different beers and the best salt and vinegar popcorn. The menu is online. If you have time ...

That'd be cool.    EIP.


Lol yeah. My husband would be pissed.
 
2013-04-03 10:05:30 PM  

iheartscotch: Exactly, mein Fürher; excuse me, Dear Leader. It is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this machine, you know. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy... the fear to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision making process which rules out human meddling, the doomsday machine is terrifying. It's simple to understand. And completely credible, and convincing


Yes, but what good is a doomsday device if you don't tell anyone about it?!?!!
 
2013-04-03 10:05:38 PM  

somedude210: ha-ha-guy: All out war is not ideal, but really as history has shown to get of an entrenched military dictatorship you at least need to strong encourage them to exit stage left.  You can buy off some of them, but you at least need the threat of a bombing campaign to really have them move.  Depending on how crazy they really are, one or two might need to get a visit from Mr. JDAM to convince the others to leave.

I honestly think that if Kim was allowed to rule without the Generals around, he could actually reform the country and open relations with the outside world. But for that to happen, we need to oust the Generals

Think Emperor Hirohito post-war japan. Something like that. Keep Kim as ruler but make NK neutered militarily and open trade relations with it. Do so as a joint US/China effort and we could quell most tensions in East Asia for 15-20 years.


North Korea prides itself on its military might and size. Wouldn't your proposal of neutering them increase tensions?
 
2013-04-03 10:05:45 PM  

Giltric: If I was China I would use NK to start an engagement with the US and then decimate the US in an all or nothing war.


That's silly, because that war would end with the world an unusable, burnt cinder, and all civilization reduced to grunting and painting on cave walls with chalk. Also, China has no interest in attacking the US. We are far too important to them, economically. Remember, they need us a WHOLE lot more than we need them.

What China SHOULD do is invade North Korea. This might sound crazy, but is actually a perfect solution to all of the major problems China is facing right now:

1) Overpopulation of young adult males. If instead of using their higher-tech arsenal, they instead start a draft, targeting undesirables - males 18-30 with no education, a poor or non-existent job, and a potential for getting restless at home - and then send the drafted men on foot into NK with barely enough equipment to have fought the first Korean War and no training, they could get rid of a ton of their unwanted young males. Which leads to...

2) Korean Humanitarian Crisis. If they send those poorly armed, angry, violent young men with no futures into North Korea, they could effectively get them to slaughter a large percentage of the native population. Especially since most of the native population is technically in the reserve, anyway. China is good enough at locking down on critics, foreign and domestic, and powerfule enough, that they could get away with this without suffering any serious backlash from the international community. After all, who's going to impose sanctions on China today? And since they have a permanent veto at the UN, they are essentially above any kind of real reproach or punishment. Wiping out most of the NK citizens eliminates the threat of "the worlds biggest humanitarian crisis", as so many people like to call it. This, in turn, opens the door to...

3) Mineral wealth. China has a decent supply of mineral wealth already, but most experts agree that NK has HUGE reserves of rare earth metals. The same rare-earth metals that make most of modern technology possible. These deposits are worth trillions, and would be a huge boon to China's wealth. It would also act as a safeguard against internal economic collapse. China's economy is actually incredibly fragile: they're essentially one really bad corruption scandal or a good look at their TRUE books away from economic colapse. Think 2007, and then multiply by 100. That bad. A huge pool of new mineral wealth would act as collateral against their currency, and ensure that they could weather any major shock to their banking system. It also buys them time to begin cleaning up their act, and stabilizing their currency - something they can't do now, since any move to strengthen the banking system and weed out the corruption might just send their existing economy tumbling off the edge. And speaking of which...

4) Eternal expansion. China's current economy revolves around perpetual expansion funded largely by the government and government-run banks. But most of this expansion lately has been of the "We need to do something, anything, just to look busy" variety. This is what's driving the creation of the massive ghost cities. Or the world's largest mall that sits almost completely unoccupied. Or any number of other ridiculous projects that churn the money around enough that it looks like the economy is growing, even if it isn't. A large, newly-claimed cache  of mineral deposits would serve as a focal point of expansion, and allow the government to keep this artificial expansion going by heavily financing NK reconstruction and development. This will give their economy enough steam to push forward even while the central planning committee works on a sustainable and stable solution.

Really, this is a no-lose for China. To top it all off, it would establish them as a true super-power, acting as a unilateral  interventionist force to patrol their region of the world. It would also simultaneously strengthen relations with the US (most of us are idiots, and love people flexing their muscles to beat down a "bully", even if said bully weighs 85lbs and has been coaxed into it by the star quarterback, who then proceeds to clobber him guilt-free), and will diminish US power in Asia, sending a strong message to unaligned countries and our less loyal allies that there's a new sheriff in town. If they can wait until NK makes the first move, so much the better, since then they also look like heroes on the world stage.

In fact, I'm a little bit shocked that China hasn't already done that. They really need to pay me a lot of money to go over and consult.

/I take payment in US dollars, rare-earth minerals, and Chinese women
 
2013-04-03 10:05:58 PM  

Professor Farksworth: CygnusDarius: Meisaims: I feel actual solace knowing that if Korea starts nuking the US, I'll at least have a really interesting time reading the response on Fark.

I actually don't want to read those comments. It will be depressing.

Holy shiat. He did it. The little fat fark actually did it. And he succeeded?!

Grab some popcorn, the US response is going to be entertaining!


Yup, entertaining.

/Whad'ya need, youngster?
 
2013-04-03 10:06:24 PM  

Boxcutta: I swear, I always end up with one of those North Korean Generals sitting in front of me at the movies.


Fortunately, they're really short.
 
2013-04-03 10:06:41 PM  

Skeptos: Guntram Shatterhand: I'm curious how China is going to react to this.  NK is probably making their lives very difficult right now, it's either shiat or get off the pot.  Keeping America pissed at this sad dictatorship can't be good for business.

I don't see Kim Jong-Un lasting long, no matter what occurs.

One thing we can be pretty sure of is that China doesn't want another US ally on its border.  If I were Xi I'd be thinking of a pre-emptive occupation of the north (and deposition of the Kims).


I've been thinking this for more than a month now. You have to wonder if we've ever quietly nudged China and say "Hey, if you wanted to take out the Kims and install a puppet state there, that'd be OK with us.
 
2013-04-03 10:06:47 PM  

Infernalist: China has no desire to see NK friendly with the U.S.  NK is their buffer zone and a proxy to rile the Americans when they see fit.

Make no mistake about it, the Chinese are pissed off at Un right now, but only because he's not following orders.


I think China would be happier if they could have a NK that wouldn't piss  everyone off. To that end, I think a joint operation with the Chinese is the only peaceful solution. But it'll be a coup to put Kim in power and take out the generals

/can you stage a coup to put yourself in power if you're already the leader?
//does that seem weird?
 
2013-04-03 10:07:01 PM  
Hey North Korea, check out our poster:

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Your poster:

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Try it, you little shiats.
 
2013-04-03 10:08:24 PM  

aevorea: North Korea prides itself on its military might and size. Wouldn't your proposal of neutering them increase tensions?


if it means that NK survives as a semi-independent country with the backing of China and no military threat to the world, I think they could go for it. If the generals go, there is no military, there is no hard line, Kim can then be the reformer he promised to be.

Seriously, get rid of the generals and we'd have Happy fat kim, not crazy Un
 
2013-04-03 10:08:28 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: What has China had to say about all this, aside from supporting the UN resolutions?  A guy (country) on your border threatens to nuke your largest trading partner.  C'mon China.


No shiat.

China, you're a superpower now.  Starting acting like one, and take care of business.
 
2013-04-03 10:08:56 PM  

doglover: Triumph: zerkalo: [farm3.staticflickr.com image 384x288]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 150x355]

That's where we're headed.*

*According to Twitter

And?

When you're not in a fight and you've got a shield, you still put it in place if it looks like you may get hit.


I really doubt we get to Defcon 2 just from bluster. That pretty much scrambles the entire military.
 
2013-04-03 10:08:58 PM  

Bontesla: Girion47: Bontesla: Girion47: Bontesla: Girion47: Bontesla: Girion47: Bontesla: jjwars1: Bontesla: The more he moves toward war - the more I'm thinking that he had something up his sleeve.

Yeah, I have that same feeling. It seems most everyone here thinks this is some opportunity to laugh and joke about the situation by mocking N. Korea. I don't think they should underestimate Korea's capabilities though. If I were ruling an underdog nation I would purposefully mislead intelligence, build allies, make myself and the country look weak and incapable, build an arsenal on foreign and domestic soil, and launch an attack on my enemies infrastructure, kill the Internet, release airborn biological weapons, chemical, and nukes from outside my own country.

Agreed. Even if they don't have nuclear capabilities - they certainly have the potential to inflict damage. Lil Kim was educated in what - Switzerland? He's had exposure beyond his little bubble.

Either he's truly the world's worst poker player or we're underestimating him.

And certainly - he's got to know that they would not survive (as a country) in this conflict.

If this were a novel - I would be writing that Lil Kim is looking to either hide or expose something heinous. Perhaps Lil Kim has gotten word that his administration is being investigated for a genocide and a war is a really great way to get other people to destroy damning evidence?

Wouldn't be a disaster thread without you!

/Got Bonnaroo tix, Macklemore will be there.
//Headed down to ATL on Friday, is the Clermont as awesome as claimed?

Oh my goodness! Have an amazing time.
I'm sooo envious! Is this your first time in Atlanta??

No it's not my first time there, but it will be my first "vacation" there.   I've done the aquarium/CNN HQ and a few restaurants while traveling through, but that was with co-workers.

There's this AMAZING place called Porter House. They have like over 800 different beers and the best salt and vinegar popcorn. The menu is onlin ...


I'm sure my wife would be right there with him.
 
2013-04-03 10:10:02 PM  
hurray! same ol' propaganda, different day. sad that people still fall for it.
 
2013-04-03 10:10:11 PM  

cleverscreenname77: [i0.kym-cdn.com image 625x491]

/Kimchi Jong Un


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-03 10:10:17 PM  
fark YES!!!!! I cannot wait to do IT contracts for the US military in the wastelands of North Korea. I bet those skinny little NK women would blow you for a power bar or a pint of milk. ( easily had for free at the D-fac.).

THANKS CHAMPAIGN!!!!!
 
2013-04-03 10:11:34 PM  
We should just send in the Blue Angels. They could do some loops and cool shiat, then write "Fark off n00b" in blue smoke in Korean as they fly away unscathed and Dear Leader shakes his tiny little fist.
 
2013-04-03 10:11:53 PM  

Lusiphur: Giltric: If I was China I would use NK to start an engagement with the US and then decimate the US in an all or nothing war.

That's silly, because that war would end with the world an unusable, burnt cinder, and all civilization reduced to grunting and painting on cave walls with chalk. Also, China has no interest in attacking the US. We are far too important to them, economically. Remember, they need us a WHOLE lot more than we need them.

What China SHOULD do is invade North Korea. This might sound crazy, but is actually a perfect solution to all of the major problems China is facing right now:

1) Overpopulation of young adult males. If instead of using their higher-tech arsenal, they instead start a draft, targeting undesirables - males 18-30 with no education, a poor or non-existent job, and a potential for getting restless at home - and then send the drafted men on foot into NK with barely enough equipment to have fought the first Korean War and no training, they could get rid of a ton of their unwanted young males. Which leads to...

2) Korean Humanitarian Crisis. If they send those poorly armed, angry, violent young men with no futures into North Korea, they could effectively get them to slaughter a large percentage of the native population. Especially since most of the native population is technically in the reserve, anyway. China is good enough at locking down on critics, foreign and domestic, and powerfule enough, that they could get away with this without suffering any serious backlash from the international community. After all, who's going to impose sanctions on China today? And since they have a permanent veto at the UN, they are essentially above any kind of real reproach or punishment. Wiping out most of the NK citizens eliminates the threat of "the worlds biggest humanitarian crisis", as so many people like to call it. This, in turn, opens the door to...

3) Mineral wealth. China has a decent supply of mineral wealth already, but most experts agre ...


Kind of a wonky approach, militarily speaking.  But, you're spot on about China's economics and the wealth laying in NK territory.  The only problem is 'getting to it' will take a lot of initial investment.  A decade or more and untold millions, if not billions to modernize NK's mining operations to the point of being able to get at their RRE wealth.

China 'could' do it, but it's a massive long-term investment in a country that isn't their's AND they have cultural issues regarding the Korean people in general.

In short, it'd be a mess, but doable.  I don't see them annexing NK until they have no other choice, and that's yet another reason why China is not happy with NK.  They're forcing the issue.
 
2013-04-03 10:12:58 PM  
Here's a question: If we have a war with NK, how are we going to get the money for it? Borrow it from China?
 
2013-04-03 10:14:59 PM  

CruJones: We should just send in the Blue Angels. They could do some loops and cool shiat, then write "Fark off n00b" in blue smoke in Korean as they fly away unscathed and Dear Leader shakes his tiny little fist.


How are they going to see it with the blue sky?
 
2013-04-03 10:15:47 PM  
 
2013-04-03 10:15:53 PM  
croesius

studebaker hoch: I kind of miss Gaddafi. He had his own style.

All he needed was a white glove and he would have been the Michael Jackson of terrorists.

cdn.thedailybeast.com


doyoulikelikeme.files.wordpress.com

Get the f*ck out of here.
 
2013-04-03 10:16:07 PM  
So... I just re-read TFA.

It goes on about how most everybody believes that Lil' Kim has no way of mounting an effective nuke warhead on any ballistic delivery that could reach the States.

Then it quotes the SecDef as announcing that, nope, "now they have delivery capacity," and we need to be all frightened and shiat.

Nothing makes me more apathetic about crap like this than the Pentagon stroking itself while behind the scenes it gets an even bigger shopping list ready along with pre-made reasons to use everything on that shopping list.

I really, really, hate my job some days.
 
2013-04-03 10:16:24 PM  

Fireproof: Here's a question: If we have a war with NK, how are we going to get the money for it? Borrow it from China?


It'd be mostly an air campaign.  Destroy their SK border artillery batteries and their capitol from the air and have the SKs and Chinese maintain the borders.

Once their border artillery batteries are destroyed, the Air Force can bomb the capitol into rubble at their leisure.  NK's air defenses are based on 1950's tech and none of it has the range to hit the high altitude bombers we use today.

Then we let the Chinese move in. They'd never let us take NK, anyways.
 
2013-04-03 10:17:04 PM  

Triumph: doglover: Triumph: zerkalo: [farm3.staticflickr.com image 384x288]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 150x355]

That's where we're headed.*

*According to Twitter

And?

When you're not in a fight and you've got a shield, you still put it in place if it looks like you may get hit.

I really doubt we get to Defcon 2 just from bluster. That pretty much scrambles the entire military.


Wait, so the lower the number the higher the alert?
 
2013-04-03 10:17:29 PM  
Somedude,

You very well may be correct and as I stated from the beginning of my initial post is I do not claim to be an expert on this subject.  However, if one were to look at China's actions in the past decade, they have behaved like the prom queen knowing that a handjob is enough to make you forget about her blowing the captain of the football team.

How much longer will the US be useful to China?  Yes we are the largest economy in the world, but China's efforts in emerging markets could more than offset the potential loss to our markets should the US try to play hard ball.  Add to the mix China owns almost $2 Trillion in US debt and can tease the opportunity for US companies to have an opportunity to sell in the mainland and I could easily see how China could feel they were in a position of strength when dealing with the US re: North Korea.

While I could be wrong, there are only two certainties, one, you can never trust China to do what is "right," but you can count on China doing what is in its own interest, the rest of the world be damned...
 
2013-04-03 10:18:15 PM  
I thought it was obvious that china was building all of those empty cities for the NORK refugees.
 
2013-04-03 10:19:02 PM  

doglover: Triumph: doglover: Triumph: zerkalo: [farm3.staticflickr.com image 384x288]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 150x355]

That's where we're headed.*

*According to Twitter

And?

When you're not in a fight and you've got a shield, you still put it in place if it looks like you may get hit.

I really doubt we get to Defcon 2 just from bluster. That pretty much scrambles the entire military.

Wait, so the lower the number the higher the alert?


Bingo.
 
2013-04-03 10:19:07 PM  
Oppa DPRK Style

i.imgur.com">
 
2013-04-03 10:19:37 PM  

doglover: Triumph: doglover: Triumph: zerkalo: [farm3.staticflickr.com image 384x288]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 150x355]

That's where we're headed.*

*According to Twitter

And?

When you're not in a fight and you've got a shield, you still put it in place if it looks like you may get hit.

I really doubt we get to Defcon 2 just from bluster. That pretty much scrambles the entire military.

Wait, so the lower the number the higher the alert?


Notsureifserious.jpg

But I'll answer. Yes, a nice sunny day is Defcon 5. All out nuclear war = Defcon 1.
 
2013-04-03 10:20:09 PM  
Why would the US want to stop this?  It gives us a perfect excuse to keep extending our military might into the pacific, including missile interceptor systems, airbases, and naval assets.

China is worried about being "boxed in and contained"... they should be!  With friends like North Korea it gives the United States a free hand to do whatever we want in the region in the name of global security.  You would think that China wouldn't be the most thrilled with North Korea over that.
 
2013-04-03 10:20:32 PM  

jpo2269: Somedude,

You very well may be correct and as I stated from the beginning of my initial post is I do not claim to be an expert on this subject.  However, if one were to look at China's actions in the past decade, they have behaved like the prom queen knowing that a handjob is enough to make you forget about her blowing the captain of the football team.

How much longer will the US be useful to China?  Yes we are the largest economy in the world, but China's efforts in emerging markets could more than offset the potential loss to our markets should the US try to play hard ball.  Add to the mix China owns almost $2 Trillion in US debt and can tease the opportunity for US companies to have an opportunity to sell in the mainland and I could easily see how China could feel they were in a position of strength when dealing with the US re: North Korea.

While I could be wrong, there are only two certainties, one, you can never trust China to do what is "right," but you can count on China doing what is in its own interest, the rest of the world be damned...


Maybe they 'are' a Superpower already, after all.

Just like us.
 
2013-04-03 10:22:06 PM  

Xetal: Why would the US want to stop this?  It gives us a perfect excuse to keep extending our military might into the pacific, including missile interceptor systems, airbases, and naval assets.

China is worried about being "boxed in and contained"... they should be!  With friends like North Korea it gives the United States a free hand to do whatever we want in the region in the name of global security.  You would think that China wouldn't be the most thrilled with North Korea over that.


Exactly!  There's no reason at all for the Chinese to want this escalated.  NK is supposed to make a lot of noise and then STOP short of actually making the Americans show up.  They're not playing according to their script and the Chinese have got to be pissed off about it.
 
2013-04-03 10:23:47 PM  

Infernalist: China 'could' do it, but it's a massive long-term investment in a country that isn't their's AND they have cultural issues regarding the Korean people in general.


Hence the first two points. A massive land invasion from the north that inflicts heavy personnel damage on both countries, but costs China next to nothing. Wipe out their dissenting class and at the same time, wipe out most of the north koreans. Then they get to the RREs free and clear.

And actually, the fact that it would take a decade to dig up is actually a plus. That's ten years of legitimate artificial economic inflation, and is also the minimum amount of time that it would take for China to get their more conventional economic house in order.
 
2013-04-03 10:24:27 PM  
Screw the nukes. They need more impressive hats.

i23.photobucket.com

Admit it, you marvelled.
 
2013-04-03 10:25:45 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Lost Thought 00: In the most technical sense of that term. It had a lower orbit than Sputnik

The North Korean satellite's current orbit is about 100 km above the International Space Station. Sputnik did have a higher apogee but its orbit was elliptical with a perigee of only 215 km (according to Wikipedia). Sputnik re-entered the atmosphere after 3 months and the Korean satellite is coming up on 4.


I just landed a rover on Eve and got a Mk2 capsule to orbit the Mün once before being kicked out into a encounter with Minmus, so I got a kick out of that.
 
2013-04-03 10:25:51 PM  
well...here at the end of the world

bie?
eip
 
2013-04-03 10:26:33 PM  

Lusiphur: Infernalist: China 'could' do it, but it's a massive long-term investment in a country that isn't their's AND they have cultural issues regarding the Korean people in general.

Hence the first two points. A massive land invasion from the north that inflicts heavy personnel damage on both countries, but costs China next to nothing. Wipe out their dissenting class and at the same time, wipe out most of the north koreans. Then they get to the RREs free and clear.

And actually, the fact that it would take a decade to dig up is actually a plus. That's ten years of legitimate artificial economic inflation, and is also the minimum amount of time that it would take for China to get their more conventional economic house in order.


Free and clear?  Most of the cost will come from infrastructure rebuilding, not feeding the starving masses.  They're still using tech and tools from the 1950s.  Granted, they could probably destroy most of the NK population without anyone saying 'boo' about it, but the fact remains that they're still looking at spending ungodly amounts of capital on modernizing the place to get at the RRE wealth.

I don't see how eliminating dissenters and the NK population can help with that massive initial investment.
 
2013-04-03 10:26:36 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Notsureifserious.jpg


When was the last time Defcon was even announced to the public? Like 1982?
 
2013-04-03 10:27:12 PM  
pics.imcdb.org
 
2013-04-03 10:27:32 PM  
I have a question.

How close to Japan would you have to get to EMP them into the 19th Century?
 
2013-04-03 10:28:09 PM  
static.neatoshop.com

Fitting? Yes? No?
 
2013-04-03 10:28:54 PM  

chopit: Isn't that basically the plot of one of the splinter cell games?


You mean Tom Clancys Splinter Cell?
 
2013-04-03 10:29:05 PM  
"The moment of explosion is approaching fast."

That's ok Un, it happens to lots of men.
 
2013-04-03 10:30:03 PM  

Heraclitus: I have a question.

How close to Japan would you have to get to EMP them into the 19th Century?


Really close range.  Like...Directly over a city.  EMPs are powerful but very short-range.

Now, the Soviets intended on using high-altitude nukes in such number as to blanket the U.S. in an attempt to short out communications coast-to-coast, but their nukes were vastly superior in design and power and number than anything the NK government has access to at the moment.
 
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