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2013-04-03 03:51:06 PM
Wow. Refer to an African as Kinto? That will score you points with anyone with a 4th grade education. I can only imagine what her parents are like. Insufferable wastes of space.
 
2013-04-03 03:51:31 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Response to Gawker:

Dear Gawker,

You're Gawker.

In your face,
NV


exactly.
 
2013-04-03 03:51:47 PM

mjohnson71: Mike Chewbacca: Eh, I see the letter-writer's very bitter point. In this day and age, kids HAVE to go to college or they're almost guaranteed a life of near-poverty. Going to college is the new normal, but colleges still think normal students have no place in their special snowflake universities.

I'm just waiting for the college cost bubble to burst.


easy way for that to happen:  end Student laons as they currently exist and have the Federal government adopt a medicare like model for finacial student aid where they reimburse the school a fixed amount per puil at rates a government board sets based on the need for that particular educational specialty, and the cost of living, and expected furture salary of the graduates
 
2013-04-03 03:53:22 PM
Back in the day (80's California), this was the deal:

1: Go to a community college to get your core courses knocked out (it was free, except for books)

2: Transfer to a decent school

3: Graduate (PROFIT)...I didn't profit, I was making more money doing what I did through college. I can't imagine the loans kids are taking on now.

If I had a child coming of age now, I'd put him/her in a journeyman position in electrical/HVAC/something practical.
 
2013-04-03 03:53:24 PM
I went to public high school, got good grades (3.95 or something), AP, SAT, lots of extracurricular stuff (not only because I knew it would look good for college, but I liked all the stuff I did) and I got into every school I applied including Notre Dame and Northwestern (Go U!).  I only got to go to Northwestern because they have truly fantastic financial aid and half my tuition was paid by a grant from the school and we didn't have to pay it back.  Not a chance in hell we could have afforded it otherwise.  Oh and I didn't do any charity or start any fake companies or whatever and I spent a fair amount of time with the assistant principal and had me a few suspensions.
 
2013-04-03 03:54:47 PM
I'm not sure what people expect to get as a result of whining about not getting unimportant stuff that other people have. I mean, not getting food or housing is a big deal worth whining over.

But not getting into your preferred college isn't Killing Fields-level oppression. It's not even "harassed by your HOA"-level oppression. It's more like "Dammit, they can't get me the Mercedes in silver so I had to settle for gray" oppression. One-percenter problems.
 
2013-04-03 03:55:59 PM
This is up there with the Lehigh Univ grad student who sued the university and prof because she got a grade lower than what she thought she deserved (and the damages she was claiming it  would do to her earnings were such a stretch)
 
2013-04-03 03:56:13 PM

PiffMan420: My advice: If your local community college is decent, do a year or two knocking off basic graduation requirements. Take your basic English and Math, kick serious ass and then transfer over to the university that would have bounced you as a Freshman. Just be sure that your credits will transfer over.

You'll also probably save money in the long run.

When you can't get into the front door, wait a while for the crowd to die down and try going in the back.



If you weren't that competitive as an HS grad/incoming freshman, I don't think you'd be any more competitive with some college coursework under your belt.

Now, if you can do better in a community college than your HS record, that's different.
 
2013-04-03 03:57:05 PM
FTA: If you worked two full-time jobs all the way through high school and one of them was "being yourself" and the other was "trying your best," you actually worked zero full-time jobs.

I LOL'd.  I want to buy her a drink for giving me a new favorite quote for the snowflakes.
 
2013-04-03 03:57:11 PM

GiantRex: I went to engineering school, where being able to write a coherent essay of any sort is usually good enough to get you admitted.


Engineer here, am agree for that.
 
2013-04-03 03:57:41 PM

Carn: I went to public high school, got good grades (3.95 or something), AP, SAT, lots of extracurricular stuff (not only because I knew it would look good for college, but I liked all the stuff I did) and I got into every school I applied including Notre Dame and Northwestern (Go U!).   I only got to go to Northwestern because they have truly fantastic financial aid and half my tuition was paid by a grant from the school and we didn't have to pay it back.  Not a chance in hell we could have afforded it otherwise.  Oh and I didn't do any charity or start any fake companies or whatever and I spent a fair amount of time with the assistant principal and had me a few suspensions.


Not any more.  My sister applied last year, got in, and didn't get anything (despite looking very poor on paper).  We had some friends get in a few years back and they were sending out little booklets to all the acceptees saying things like: "Take out a second mortgage" and "Ask for your inheritance early"
 
2013-04-03 03:57:52 PM
Going to college can lead you to sweet gigs "taking down" high schoolers and pretending it's work or somehow noteworthy.
 
2013-04-03 03:58:11 PM
The tipoff is the ending where she says "homosexual behavior is learned behavior," and the capstone, "evolution is the tinfoil hat atheists use to keep God out of their brainwaves."
 
2013-04-03 03:58:13 PM
Thinking back on it, I was involved in a bunch of bullshiat activities whose purpose was to make my college app look good. I mean, in the end I enjoyed some of them but it doesn't change the fact that I probably wouldn't have done them at all if it didn't affect college apps.

Ultimately, the purpose of college is to become educated - in an ideal world, that in and of itself should be enough reason to apply and be accepted.
 
2013-04-03 03:59:31 PM
You want to know the  real trick to getting into a lot of schools?  Apply for an under-utilized major.  Then, when you're accepted, just focus on gen eds and such.  Keep your grades up, and then apply for the major you actually want.

Alternatively, go to community college for a year or two.  Study your gen eds, get good grades, and then apply to the college of your choice.  By that time, your college transcript will likely replace your high school transcript and standardized test scores.
 
2013-04-03 04:00:40 PM

meyerkev: Carn: I went to public high school, got good grades (3.95 or something), AP, SAT, lots of extracurricular stuff (not only because I knew it would look good for college, but I liked all the stuff I did) and I got into every school I applied including Notre Dame and Northwestern (Go U!).   I only got to go to Northwestern because they have truly fantastic financial aid and half my tuition was paid by a grant from the school and we didn't have to pay it back.  Not a chance in hell we could have afforded it otherwise.  Oh and I didn't do any charity or start any fake companies or whatever and I spent a fair amount of time with the assistant principal and had me a few suspensions.

Not any more.  My sister applied last year, got in, and didn't get anything (despite looking very poor on paper).  We had some friends get in a few years back and they were sending out little booklets to all the acceptees saying things like: "Take out a second mortgage" and "Ask for your inheritance early"


Man, that blows.  I haven't been paying my loans too fast because they're consolidated Stafford and I locked em in at 3%.  Gonna pay them off in the next two years then I seriously want to donate back to the financial aid fund so some other kid like me can go there.  I imagine part of the problem is that I'm sure tuition has skyrocketed since i was a freshman in '97.  It was something like 28 grand my first year.
 
2013-04-03 04:01:44 PM
I like this girls moxy. Not her SAP scores, GPA or extracurriculars. But damn she has some moxy.
 
2013-04-03 04:01:54 PM

mrlewish: Warthog: mrlewish: Interesting how we rate ourselves on what job we do or what school we went to.

All concerned sides are full of whiny self entitles biatches.

To treat you like a human being I don't have to give a damn what school you went to, or what fancy job titles you have, or who you are or who you know.

Fourth Tier Public College typing detected.

Does it really matter?  Lets just say this.  If all the lawyers on Earth disappeared, life would go on for the rest of us after a "WTF just happened" disturbance. If all the farmers on Earth disappeared we would all be truly be farked. Guess who society values more.


I'm not sure what society you're aware of, but I'm fairly certain that's farmers.  They make more than lawyers too.
 
2013-04-03 04:04:27 PM

error 303: At this rate, she probably won't even get into Vassar.


I've had just about enough of your Vassar bashing, Missy!

Was trying to remember that quote during the other thread, thanks.
 
2013-04-03 04:06:28 PM

Fano: error 303: At this rate, she probably won't even get into Vassar.

I've had just about enough of your Vassar bashing, Missy!

Was trying to remember that quote during the other thread, thanks.


"Vassar Bashing" sounds really dirty.
 
2013-04-03 04:09:50 PM
Just give the guy in the admissions office a good blowjob. No teeth, please.
 
2013-04-03 04:12:26 PM
CSB:

Recently had dinner with my nephew, now a college senior at a small bible-based college in Southern California. He complained non-stop about how "affirmative action" kept him out of all the UC schools he applied for - he didn't get into ANY UC school. He went to a church-run school in a small town, and then transferred to a charter school for his last two years of high school. Of course, I asked him what his extra-curricular activities were (no athletics, since neither school had athletic teams), and he gave me three things: he ran marathons, he completed an "intensive" senior project (it was a DVD of an interview with some runner from the 60s) and he belonged to the Bible club. So I asked him what kind of classes did he take - AP? IB? Any honors? Nope, because neither the church school or the charter school offered them. When I pointed out that most of his competition to the UC schools would have taken AP or IB courses, he expressed genuine surprise that the courses he took in high school even mattered. He thought it all would come down to SAT scores and extra activities.

He was pretty surprised to find out that his choice of classes mattered. Or that his competition would be so far ahead of him on the classes that matter scale. He was also pretty surprised to find that because of this, "affirmative action" (as he'd been told by his parents and church) didn't affect his acceptance.

You could almost see the lightbulb going off in his head. It was a Doh! moment for him, poor guy.

//Not poor guy at all - grew up the golden boy at church school and was shocked when that didn't translate to college acceptance.
 
2013-04-03 04:12:50 PM
An awful lot of these people still get into college. I should know. I have to read their workstudy job applications...of the roughly 1500 apps I see annual, probably 1000-1200 could've been written by this girl...
 
2013-04-03 04:14:19 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Going to college can lead you to sweet gigs "taking down" high schoolers and pretending it's work or somehow noteworthy.


Anybody who gets paid to make fun of high schoolers has already lapped you in the game of life.
 
2013-04-03 04:15:21 PM
Truth be told, most students, including snowflake, shouldn't even be applying for college in the first place. Please, just find something you like and that you're good at that actually benefits society and go with that. You'll be surprised how well you do even if your main goal is just making money.
 
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2013-04-03 04:15:43 PM
but, but, she had a...........................9.37 gpa
 
2013-04-03 04:15:54 PM
WAAAAH, IT'S SO HARD BEING WHITE AND LAZY.
 
2013-04-03 04:16:05 PM
On the one hand, the kid's getting excoriated for being a whiner.

On the other, she has a point.

When you are young and have not experienced the deep FML that is Life, you might still believe things more "experienced" and world weary people tell you, like the chirpy "Just be yourself!"

People hear that three word lie for everything: finding a date, getting married, joining a club, getting a job, getting into a school, or even just making friends.

I don't blame her for being angry. She's a kid. Someone told her a big big lie. She believed it. She got screwed.

Stop lying to children, folks. Seriously.
 
2013-04-03 04:16:33 PM

Half Right: I don't get all the hate and outrage about this letter. I thought it was funny. If anything the Gawker response author seems to be the bitter, angry, self-important one.


I don't understand why people are so farking butthurt over this. It's satire, not reality.

We get it, you worked hard to get where you are. What the fark makes you so special? We all work hard, get over yourself, you're not special snowflake.

/Starting to wonder who the real snowflakes are in this situation.
 
2013-04-03 04:18:15 PM

abhorrent1: Poor girl. Probably can't even be a stripper.


I'd like to see her try.
 
2013-04-03 04:19:08 PM

T.rex: I just read the gal's original article.  Its clearly intentionally self-effacing and humorous.   And just look at all these people she successfully trolled.  Plus, she got published. Well done.


Seconded. How are we the only ones that got this?
 
2013-04-03 04:19:51 PM
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2013-04-03 04:21:27 PM
I don't think her essay was all that bad, it was kind of funny, somewhat self deprecating, if anything.
Didn't deserve the flaming backlash.
 
2013-04-03 04:22:15 PM

WelldeadLink: abhorrent1: Poor girl. Probably can't even be a stripper.

I'd like to see her try.


getdefault.com
 
2013-04-03 04:22:58 PM
Like me, millions of high-school seniors with sour grapes are asking themselves this week how they failed to get into the colleges of their dreams. It's simple: For years, they-we-were lied to.

Her point isn't that colleges should have accepted her, it's that they mislead students on what they're looking for.
 
2013-04-03 04:23:21 PM
This is inane.  People who got C averages in schools turn out to be better leaders because they're less concerned with being nerds and more concerned with life.  People who get A averages and become leaders are the MBA type that think education = authority, the stiff no-nonsense bosses that don't know jack shiat but get through management school with polished resumes and no friends other than suits they met in management school.
 
2013-04-03 04:23:44 PM

Contents Under Pressure: On the one hand, the kid's getting excoriated for being a whiner.

On the other, she has a point.

When you are young and have not experienced the deep FML that is Life, you might still believe things more "experienced" and world weary people tell you, like the chirpy "Just be yourself!"

People hear that three word lie for everything: finding a date, getting married, joining a club, getting a job, getting into a school, or even just making friends.

I don't blame her for being angry. She's a kid. Someone told her a big big lie. She believed it. She got screwed.

Stop lying to children, folks. Seriously.



Just another example of liberals trying to turn America into a Nanny State
 
2013-04-03 04:24:20 PM
Flawless whine.

Mediocrity
 
2013-04-03 04:24:45 PM

T.rex: I just read the gal's original article.  Its clearly intentionally self-effacing and humorous.   And just look at all these people she successfully trolled.  Plus, she got published. Well done.


Which is great, good for her.  Provocation is a great incitement to discuss privilege, expectations, and entitlement.

Except, she did none of that.  She wrote a humorous article that is being taken at face value.  It's a reflection on her, for good or ill.  What is the purpose of satire if the point is completely missed?  Instead of discussing the perceived necessity of "9 activities, 3 sports, and 2 moms", the competitiveness of college admissions, and what it really means to "be yourself", we're calling her out for her behavior (Rightly So).  Classic case of all form no substance.

It's sad because there are a few decent points to be found - "fake" charities (like collecting a few hundred bucks in your "Pens For Schoolkids" senior project charity) and "life changing" photo ops ARE worthy of ridicule.

When she pointed out about the 9/3/2 thing, I thought "you're a well-off white girl.  How haven't your parents signed you up for 12 different sports/activities by now?"  In the affluent suburbs where I work, kids go all day every day, year round - jumping from sport to sport, activity to club to activity.  Doesn't matter that, of 12 activities, they only participate in 2 or 3, half-ass 5, and pad their college resume by saying they're members of the rest though they've never been to a meeting after the 1st.
 
2013-04-03 04:24:50 PM

ajt167: T.rex: I just read the gal's original article.  Its clearly intentionally self-effacing and humorous.   And just look at all these people she successfully trolled.  Plus, she got published. Well done.

Seconded. How are we the only ones that got this?


Perhaps we all have liberal arts degrees?
 
2013-04-03 04:24:53 PM

bluefoxicy: This is inane.  People who got C averages in schools turn out to be better leaders because they're less concerned with being nerds and more concerned with life.  People who get A averages and become leaders are the MBA type that think education = authority, the stiff no-nonsense bosses that don't know jack shiat but get through management school with polished resumes and no friends other than suits they met in management school.


Black guys drive a car like this...
 
2013-04-03 04:25:03 PM
On the one hand.... Oh God, I had a roommate like that. She blamed having to go to Pretty Great State School in our home state instead of Exclusive Private University on "black people." Yes, that's a quote. It was kinda crazy.

On the other hand, I saw a forum post elsewhere recently by a mom who was upset because she didn't know that the top kids in her son's high school class were fudging the GPA weighting by doing the state mandated health class at the local community college instead of at the high school. Her son had done the health class at the school, and the result was a drop in his GPA of tenths of a point... which took him out of the top tier necessary to get into the Pretty Great State School in this state. She was panicked and asking if anyone knew a way to fix it. That's farked up.
 
2013-04-03 04:27:20 PM

Harry Freakstorm: Gabrielmot


abhorrent1: Poor girl. Probably can't even be a stripper.

can't wait to see *that* rejection letter...

She's gonna do porn and it's going to really bad porn.


Great.  Now we'll have to read a letter to the editors written by her G-spot, complaining that sex wasn't what she expected based on what she was told.
 
2013-04-03 04:27:44 PM

Rapmaster2000: mrlewish: Does it really matter?  Lets just say this.  If all the lawyers on Earth disappeared, life would go on for the rest of us after a "WTF just happened" disturbance. If all the farmers on Earth disappeared we would all be truly be farked. Guess who society values more.

I'm not sure what society you're aware of, but I'm fairly certain that's farmers.  They make more than lawyers too.


BLS data here.

"Lawyers" (23-1011) averaged $130,880 annual.  If you sort by annual wage, the only categories above "Lawyers" are various flavors of medical doctor, "Chief Executives", petroleum engineers, and architects.

"Farming, Fishing and Forestry Occupations" (45-0000) averaged $24,230 annual.  No sub-group of that averaged more than $46,410 ("First-Line Supervisors of Farming, Fishing, and Forestry Workers").

You're not just wrong, you're hilariously wrong.  I'm guessing you don't know any farmers.  Or you think that executives who own agribusinesses are "farmers".
 
2013-04-03 04:28:12 PM
They totally left out: "To those claiming that I am bitter-you bet I am! An underachieving selfish teenager making excuses for her own failures? That too! To those of you disgusted by this, shocked that I take for granted the wonderful gifts I have been afforded, I say shhhh-"The Real Housewives" is on."

I think this was meant to be satire and people took it as literal...
 
2013-04-03 04:28:41 PM

TenaciousP: C U Next Tuesday


Qualifies as a life support system for a pussy.
 
2013-04-03 04:29:49 PM

PiffMan420: My advice: If your local community college is decent, do a year or two knocking off basic graduation requirements. Take your basic English and Math, kick serious ass and then transfer over to the university that would have bounced you as a Freshman. Just be sure that your credits will transfer over


i'd take that a step further- skip at least your senior year of highschool and go to community college. i'm not sure about every state, but NY allows you to do it. I got SUNY credits, only had to be on campus for at most a few hours a day (rather than slowly churning through a normal highschool day) and got excellent core courses taken care of that let me jump into the interesting stuff quicker and allowed me to graduate early (thus saving quite a bit of money) the only odd thing was that i had to take a physical fitness course at the college to satisfy the NYS requirement for highschool physical education.
 
2013-04-03 04:30:33 PM

Rapmaster2000: They make more than lawyers too.


You must know corporate farmers and shiatty lawyers.  Because I'm a lawyer and rancher, and lawyering pays far better.
 
2013-04-03 04:31:28 PM
Entitled "To (All) the Colleges That Rejected Me,"

I see what you did there.
 
2013-04-03 04:31:46 PM
I don't really blame her for being mad, but the problem isn't with the school. The schools she was applying to were all for high achievers, and she isn't one. Honestly, she shouldn't have gotten in. She shouldn't have even wanted to apply.

The problem everyone's ignoring is that it is becoming increasingly necessary to go to places like that whether you want to or not, because society in the US is getting increasingly grim for anyone normal. The job prospects and pay rate for someone with a normal degree from an average school are going continuously downhill. It's becoming increasingly necessary to do something special just to reach the middle class - either go to a high-ranked college, or graduate school, or do something else to distinguish yourself. And that's really hard for people without special talents to handle. Yet, what's the alternative? To get washed into the service sector so you can spend your entire life pointlessly pushing the boulder of your student loans up a hill of their interest rate?

So yeah, the problem isn't that we're telling everyone they're exceptional. The problem is that if you aren't exceptional, you're screwed.
 
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