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2013-04-03 02:18:01 PM

Marcus Aurelius: sheep snorter: Thats the weirdest farking thing........

Try typing in "ni*BONG*" and see what comes out (where *BONG* is the sounds an angry dog makes).


nigrowl
 
2013-04-03 02:18:26 PM

sheep snorter: nibark


Angrier.
 
2013-04-03 02:19:02 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Marcus Aurelius: sheep snorter: Thats the weirdest farking thing........

Try typing in "ni*BONG*" and see what comes out (where *BONG* is the sounds an angry dog makes).

nigrowl


You're getting warmer!
 
2013-04-03 02:19:33 PM

Marcus Aurelius: sheep snorter: Thats the weirdest farking thing........

Try typing in "ni*BONG*" and see what comes out (where *BONG* is the sounds an angry dog makes).


niruff
 
2013-04-03 02:19:37 PM
OK, OK, it's "niarf", you fools.
 
2013-04-03 02:27:33 PM
An angry Nigerian dog can't make much noise when hes got the other dogs tail in his mouth.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-03 02:30:05 PM
well, we do need to do something with the astrodome, perhaps we should lock them in there until we figure out a solution for what to do with the astrodome
 
2013-04-03 02:35:02 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Treygreen13: sheep snorter: I mean weeners...

Lets try without Italics.... Does not show up in preview...

The Weeners to the FTC's cry for help was not encouraging: many of the submissions were technologically thin, duplicative, or overly simplistic, and the entire endeavor seemed to attract a certain type of politically-engaged, stay-at-home crazy person.

sheepsnorterseems to *really* like Weeners.

NTTAWWT.


sheep snorter: I so do love the Fark filters, especially when they fark up..

Weeners

If that says weeners then

initial

response


Two more.  I think his subconcious is sending a message.
 
2013-04-03 02:47:36 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Marcus Aurelius: sheep snorter: Thats the weirdest farking thing........

Try typing in "ni*BONG*" and see what comes out (where *BONG* is the sounds an angry dog makes).

nigrowl

You're getting warmer!


nimoo?

/Sorry, underprivileged as a kid, and all I had to play with was a broken See-n-Say with a badly calibrated dial, so I'm not too good with animal noises.
 
2013-04-03 03:15:03 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't get any robo-calls?

I mean, indeed they should be illegal if you're on the Do Not Call list.

I am, and I've never gotten one.  Well, except sometimes from my electric company telling me they're servicing my area.  But that's not what we're talking about here.
 
2013-04-03 03:15:17 PM
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/Alrighty then. Off to foobies.com
 
2013-04-03 03:18:51 PM

downstairs: Am I the only one that doesn't get any robo-calls?

I mean, indeed they should be illegal if you're on the Do Not Call list.

I am, and I've never gotten one.  Well, except sometimes from my electric company telling me they're servicing my area.  But that's not what we're talking about here.


I got a few for a while. Reported them and they stopped.

The most annoying calls I get now are from some service I've signed up for (electric, cable, etc.) where they call me and then a machine says, "Please hold for a representative."

I just hang up. If they do ever call back again, I hang up until a real person calls. I'm not going to go on hold the second a call starts.
 
2013-04-03 03:38:29 PM
Ugh.  I have been getting a call from an 800 number everyday, at random times, for the last two months.  No message is ever left.  I look up the digits and it's apparently related to some "debt collection and consolidation firm" in Minnesota.  GACK.

I have no debt other than my mortgage, which is current.

Leave me alone.
 
2013-04-03 03:44:15 PM

tennessee.hillbilly: Ugh.  I have been getting a call from an 800 number everyday, at random times, for the last two months.  No message is ever left.  I look up the digits and it's apparently related to some "debt collection and consolidation firm" in Minnesota.  GACK.

I have no debt other than my mortgage, which is current.

Leave me alone.


I got those for a while. Finally after about 10 calls someone actually answered for once. Asked if this was *myname*. I said yes, and then she said, "Could you tell me your social security number?"

I laughed at her. "Hell no, I'm not telling you my social security number. How ridiculous would it be if I called you at home and just blurted out that I wanted to know your social security number?"

She replied, "we're trying to collect on an outstanding balance for someone named *myname* so just tell me your social."

I told her she was not getting my social security number just because she called me. I told her I'd verify who I was another way, but I was not going to just give out my personal info to strangers on the phone. She gave me the deadbeat's middle name, and I told her that it wasn't my middle name and that they had the wrong guy.

They called for intermittently for 2 more weeks. Each time a different person, each time asking for that guy. I told each one of them that I was a different guy with a different middle name. One day, they just stopped.
 
2013-04-03 04:03:32 PM

tennessee.hillbilly: Ugh.  I have been getting a call from an 800 number everyday, at random times, for the last two months.  No message is ever left.  I look up the digits and it's apparently related to some "debt collection and consolidation firm" in Minnesota.  GACK.

I have no debt other than my mortgage, which is current.

Leave me alone.


Treygreen13: tennessee.hillbilly: Ugh.  I have been getting a call from an 800 number everyday, at random times, for the last two months.  No message is ever left.  I look up the digits and it's apparently related to some "debt collection and consolidation firm" in Minnesota.  GACK.

I have no debt other than my mortgage, which is current.

Leave me alone.

I got those for a while. Finally after about 10 calls someone actually answered for once. Asked if this was *myname*. I said yes, and then she said, "Could you tell me your social security number?"

She replied, "we're trying to collect on an outstanding balance for someone named *myname* so just tell me your social."

They called for intermittently for 2 more weeks. Each time a different person, each time asking for that guy. I told each one of them that I was a different guy with a different middle name. One day, they just stopped.


I get these calls and they never really stop, just another day and another deadbeat somehow tied into my phone number they have neevr asked fro soemone with my name.  They call my business phone that is paid for by a reallybigcompany.  Telling them once, twice or three times never works.  Mr. Robato just gets reset to keep trying until Wimpy answers.   Thus my need for call blocking on the phone.

The insanity is not only that you are expected to take the time to wait for them to answer so you can tell them to stop calling.  You have to answers "You're not him?" at least 12 times. Then they still call.  The really stupid is when the message is "If you are not Mr. Wimpy please hang up."  and we'll keep calling.  We'll keep calling even if you tell us to stop.

I bough a foreclosure so of course that meant that I MUST know the previous owners and all of their deadbeat aliases.
 
2013-04-03 04:05:15 PM

netringer: I get these calls and they never really stop, just another day and another deadbeat somehow tied into my phone number they have neevr asked fro soemone with my name.  They call my business phone that is paid for by a reallybigcompany.  Telling them once, twice or three times never works.  Mr. Robato just gets reset to keep trying until Wimpy answers.   Thus my need for call blocking on the phone.

The insanity is not only that you are expected to take the time to wait for them to answer so you can tell them to stop calling.  You have to answers "You're not him?" at least 12 times. Then they still call.  The really stupid is when the message is "If you are not Mr. Wimpy please hang up."  and we'll keep calling.  We'll keep calling even if you tell us to stop.

I bough a foreclosure so of course that meant that I MUST know the previous owners and all of their deadbeat aliases.


Sounds like you need to talk to a lawyer.
 
2013-04-03 04:24:44 PM
Its fun buying or renting a home that had a deadbeat living in it. At least any collections stop calling once I answered and said "hasn't lived here for years".
Of course it also helps to know what the law states in regards to parasite collection agencies, for that one company that just doesn't understand the law.

Have a buddy that the cops showed up there looking for a deadbeat alimony, at least they were nice to him and knew that 5 years is kinda dumb to think he was still living there. But the deadbeats mail still occasionally shows up, so paper trail to doom.
 
2013-04-03 04:27:16 PM
Then we step up to the ultraviolence....

Send in the droogs.
 
2013-04-03 04:27:35 PM
Individuals caught being knowingly associated with a "robocalling" company -- whether directly managing the company or willingly assisting in the operations of the company -- should be placed on a "robocaller facilitator registry", identifying their name, their current address, any phone numbers associated with them and the model and license plate information of any motor vehicle registered to them. Substantial legal penalties would be meted out for noncompliance (non-violent drug offenders could be released to add room to prisons, if necessary).

As the requirement is not itself violent, the registry would be technically non-violent.

/The best kind of non-violence.
 
2013-04-03 05:14:34 PM

bdub77: I just want the f*cking lawn service people to stop calling me. No I am not going back to you. Eat sh*t and die.


so much this. Every time they call I say, sure I'll come back if you cut your price in half and every time they get all butt hurt like I've just insulted them.

And the service sucked to boot. Always got excuses on why they couldn't come back out to re-treat as promised yet was constantly getting calls saying they were in the neighborhood and they could do this or that extra service for only another $75 or whatever.
 
2013-04-03 05:20:22 PM

netringer: I get these calls and they never really stop, just another day and another deadbeat somehow tied into my phone number they have neevr asked fro soemone with my name. They call my business phone that is paid for by a reallybigcompany. Telling them once, twice or three times never works. Mr. Robato just gets reset to keep trying until Wimpy answers. Thus my need for call blocking on the phone.

The insanity is not only that you are expected to take the time to wait for them to answer so you can tell them to stop calling. You have to answers "You're not him?" at least 12 times. Then they still call. The really stupid is when the message is "If you are not Mr. Wimpy please hang up." and we'll keep calling. We'll keep calling even if you tell us to stop.


They keep calling you back because they don't believe you.  If you really are the deadbeat you'll lie to them and tell them that you are not who they want you to be.  So they keep trying to trip you up.

Stupidity of all stupidity was when a bill collector called me looking for someone three doors down.  They knew exactly that they had called the wrong house/address.    It was all can you go to your neighbors house and give them a message?  I was like, I don't know the people who live in that house and I'm not going to go down there and talk to them for you.
 
2013-04-03 05:24:02 PM

spyderqueen: You know, I kind of feel bad for anyone named Becky or Rachel who actually do work for a company's Cardmember Services department.  "No, I really am! Don't hang up, it's not good news about your rates!"


OH MY GOD! I HATE THOSE farkING PEOPLE.

I'm on the No Call List yet they continue to call me 3-4 times a week.  I keep filing filing complaints with the FTC and they KEEP farkING CALLING ME.
 
2013-04-03 05:34:09 PM
I have found if you threaten to track down and kill the robocallers, they tend to stop.   I know it's illegal and all, but so is them calling me.  I've told two of them I have a good idea where they live and I plan to kill them in their sleep.  Never got a call again.

I do keep getting a call from this "FBI" scam now, though.
 
2013-04-03 05:43:28 PM

BizarreMan: They keep calling you back because they don't believe you.  If you really are the deadbeat you'll lie to them and tell them that you are not who they want you to be.  So they keep trying to trip you up.


I kinda doubt they put any thinking into it other than making it SOP that they dont' push the "delete this number" button until you scream at them for the 3rd time to stop calling.

I found that  http://www.fcc.gov/complaints worked pretty well, but filing a complaint is a pain.  I think with enough complaints the guvmint catches up on these guys after a year or two. Now that I get 3 calls a day from one scum or another selling duct cleaining or security systems, who has the time?

Stupidity of all stupidity was when a bill collector called me looking for someone three doors down.  They knew exactly that they had called the wrong house/address.    It was all can you go to your neighbors house and give them a message?  I was like, I don't know the people who live in that house and I'm not going to go down there and talk to them for you.

I once handed my neighbor the phone number to call because the guy calling was decent.  I'll never do that again.
 
2013-04-03 07:21:24 PM
Meh, we have the tech to get rid of robocalls. We simply do away with the current phone system and replace it with VOIP. Each call would be automatically backtraced; any call that the system couldn't authenticate by confirmed address would fail to go through. All of the information regarding identity of the owner of the phone calling would be available to the person being called. You could set your own filters, such as no calls routed through overseas servers. Prohibit proxies from routing such calls domestically. International proxies could be used but by configuring filters you could eliminate any international calls anyway.

Folks with far more knowledge on these things will say that I'm forgetting this-or-that or I'm being pants-on-head retarded, but it all depends on how many resources we're willing to throw at this problem. Our telecommunications system is already computerized. We could basically use the opportunity to reinvent the internet using an "I don't trust you" system rather than a "let's swap computer herpes on the first date" protocol system we have today, using it first for the phone system and then migrating over everything else over time. I keep reading computer security articles talking about how flawed the system is today for what we try to use it for.
 
2013-04-03 07:44:39 PM

akula: Why the hell would we want a nonviolent solution to people using robocallers to telemarket?

I'd think that violence- severe, cruel, gory, and sadistic violence- should be the first, best, and only option for such miserable wastes of flesh.


Yeah, but you're a shark.
 
2013-04-03 08:13:38 PM

BolloxReader: Meh, we have the tech to get rid of robocalls. We simply do away with the current phone system and replace it with VOIP. Each call would be automatically backtraced;



Consequences will never be the same!
 
rpm
2013-04-03 08:20:12 PM

BizarreMan: I am constantly getting real calls for her.  The old give us your bank account information and we'll send you a $7,500 refund from the government.  I've attempted talking nice, I've been not nice, hell the next to last time I talked with them, I told them Cathy was dead.  They still call.


Answer the phone "Department of Homeland Security, telephone fraud division, how may I help you?"

And yell to the background "Get that trace going"
 
2013-04-03 09:46:34 PM

rpm: BizarreMan: I am constantly getting real calls for her.  The old give us your bank account information and we'll send you a $7,500 refund from the government.  I've attempted talking nice, I've been not nice, hell the next to last time I talked with them, I told them Cathy was dead.  They still call.

Answer the phone "Department of Homeland Security, telephone fraud division, how may I help you?"

And yell to the background "Get that trace going"


I like that idea.
 
2013-04-03 10:26:26 PM
*shrug* I just say "Hello?"  and if there is any delay or click before the person begins talking, you know its a robo call, and I hang up.

Its actually pretty effortless.
 
2013-04-03 11:30:16 PM

netringer: Why SURE!   I'll buy a home security system from a company that laughs at the law!

I don't think that one's actually a robocall, but rather one or more trained monkeys who stick to a script.  The last time I got a call from those guys, I managed to throw him off-script by asking, "Are you a robot?"  (I think his response was "Wow, do I really sound that bad?" and then he got back to his script.)

I suppose he might have been a robot with the necessary voice recognition to respond to questions like that, but it seems unlikely.

rpm: Answer the phone "Department of Homeland Security, telephone fraud division, how may I help you?"

And yell to the background "Get that trace going"


I'm stealing that idea.
 
2013-04-03 11:56:41 PM
I always press "1" to speak to a live representative, then at some point in the spiel I say "I hope your ------- dies of -------" and then hang up. (I won't repeat the family member label and the condition out of respect to people here genuinely affected by that situation.)

Anyway, I'm hoping that if I rattle or horrify enough live operators, no one will work for the robocaller anymore.

Yeah, right.
 
2013-04-04 12:51:56 AM

BolloxReader: We simply do away with the current phone system and replace it with VOIP.


I'm pretty sure the phone system is already a digital packet switched network.  Cell phones for sure are. "Land lines" are just analog from your house to the local junction box where it's converted to a digital signal and sent over the phone network.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that the current system has been VOIP for a very long time.
 
2013-04-04 10:54:43 AM
Douchebag: Congratulations, in response to the ticket entry you submitted, you are now a winner of a chevy tahoe! 

Me:  That's weird, i never submitted something.

Douchebag:  Are you sure someone didn't submit something in your name?

Me:  Pretty sure.  What name do you have?

Douchebag: "............ uh"

Me: *Click*
 
2013-04-04 04:02:31 PM
How much would it cost me to get a 900 number at home? I've always felt that if the Call-Bots wanted to give me $4.95/ minute, I'll do my best to keep'em on the farkin' line As Long As I Can.
 
2013-04-04 07:43:24 PM
lol, just got my automated email response from the FCC about my lodged complaint 2 weeks ago.

Do Not reply to this email

Dear Consumer:
Re: Case # xx-xxxxxxx-x

Thank you for contacting the FCC regarding possible violations of the Telephone Consumer Protection Act ("TCPA") and the Commission's telemarketing and junk fax rules.   Information provided in consumer complaints like yours helps the Commission to combat abusive or unlawful practices in these areas, including taking enforcement actions against individuals or companies. In this regard, the Communications Act authorizes the Commission to issue citations and, in some cases, impose substantial fines upon entities that violate telemarketing and junk fax rules.
Although the Commission does not resolve individual complaints, each complaint is individually analyzed and assists us in enforcement actions to protect consumers like yourself.  You should be aware that the TCPA also provides for enforcement of the telemarketing and junk fax rules by state attorneys general and by individual consumers.  With respect to the latter, the TCPA permits individuals who have received certain unlawful telemarketing, such as junk faxes or telemarketing calls, to sue the violator in state courts where they may be awarded up to $1500 for each violation.

We invite you to visit the FCC's Consumer & Governmental Affairs Bureau's Internet web site at http://www.fcc.gov/cgb for more information. You may also call the FCC's Consumer Center toll free at 1-888-CALL-FCC [1-888-225-5322], TTY: 1-888-TELL-FCC [1-888-835-5322].

Sincerely,
Sharon C. Bowers, Division Chief
Consumer Inquiries & Complaints Division
Consumer & Governmental Affairs Bureau


Clearly, TOP MEN are on top of this.  They invited me to the website I went to in the first place for 'more information'.  Eh, what are you gonna do when they get 2000 of these every day .....
 
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