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(Talking Points Memo)   Prosecutor heading up the case against an Aryan hate group in Texas resigns over security reasons, sends letter to every member of the defense so their clients don't kill him like they killed the two other prosecutors   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 67
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2013-04-03 10:29:30 AM
8 votes:
Soooo you've just taught every drug dealing gang in the US that the easiest way to have a large Federal case dropped is to assassinate a few prosecutors. That's going to turn out awesome.
2013-04-03 09:41:43 AM
5 votes:

mysticcat: I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.


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2013-04-03 10:47:56 AM
4 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: This is what happens when you incarcerate nearly one percent of your total population.  Things will really get fun when we hit two percent.


It has less to do with incarceration, and more to do with what we do with them once they're in jail.

As it turns out, grouping a bunch of known criminals into a location where they can share ideas, organize, and build criminal communities while also removing their ability to get well-paying jobs after their sentence is completed and doing next to nothing in the way of rehabilitation to non-criminal society is a terrible idea.

One of my papers for my last government class dealt with recidivism rates in states with increased state-sponsored rehabilitation compared to states without it. The effects were about what you'd expect. States that had (well-funded) rehab programs experienced a lot less trouble - not surprising when you consider that people are less likely to be assholes when you treat them like human beings. The gap gets even wider when you compare them to countries like Norway, but they use different measures of recidivism, so I couldn't use them in the paper.

/My desk was overflowing with stories of people going in for weed, getting out, then going back in for armed robbery/assault/farking murder.
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2013-04-03 10:23:24 AM
4 votes:

mysticcat: I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.


They are actually a prison gang, so yeah.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-03 09:23:37 AM
4 votes:
If he just got a gun he would be perfectly safe and untouchable.
2013-04-03 11:15:04 AM
3 votes:
I see the big, bad DHS can use extreme rendition on a Canadian teenager, and bag him off to GITMO, but they don't have the testes to go after a real domestic terrorist.
Nice of them to spend your tax dollars on brass and glass, and not kick ass.
2013-04-03 10:43:23 AM
3 votes:

the money is in the banana stand: So the jails are overflowing with people who wrote bad checks? What would your suggestion be for someone writing a bad check to begin with to rehabilitate them? How do you "rehabilitate" the meth head who shot someone also? I don't disagree those two crimes are vastly different in nature and should be treated as such, but hyperbolizing the situation is not advantageous to your argument.


But its not hyperbole when minor crime offenders are housed with heavier offenders, the private prison system does not take rehabilitation into account. It only requires warm bodies and cares little to nothing about how those warm bodies are put in there. From being behind on child support, to low level drug offenses, minor fraud, simple larceny, etc..

And many of those low level crimes are merely symptoms of larger issues at hand, like substance abuse, poor education, poverty, etc..

Just saying, often times we treat the criminal justice system like an axe.That we use to then cut off our hand, because we have a hang nail.
2013-04-03 10:36:46 AM
3 votes:

the money is in the banana stand: Because we arbitrarily incarcerate people? Please, the only offense that should not result in incarceration at this current time is possession of marijuana. Blame society instead of those responsible? The problem is that incarceration is not enough....


Yep, because housing someone who wrote a bad check with another guy who cooked meth and shot someone is a great idea and works towards the idea of rehabilitation.
2013-04-03 10:32:59 AM
3 votes:

Pollexter: Soooo you've just taught every drug dealing gang in the US that the easiest way to have a large Federal case dropped is to assassinate a few prosecutors. That's going to turn out awesome.


How about no?  Prosecutors, like defense attorneys, withdraw from cases for a variety of reasons all the time.  The charges don't go away, the case just gets assigned to another prosecutor.
2013-04-03 10:30:01 AM
3 votes:
Welcome to Mexico?
2013-04-03 10:27:58 AM
3 votes:
This is what happens when you incarcerate nearly one percent of your total population.  Things will really get fun when we hit two percent.
2013-04-03 10:26:33 AM
3 votes:
coward.
2013-04-03 12:37:25 PM
2 votes:
How do you Aryan hate groups in Texas set themselves apart from regular Texans?
2013-04-03 11:38:16 AM
2 votes:

mod3072: Marcus Aurelius: This is what happens when you incarcerate nearly one percent of your total population.  Things will really get fun when we hit two percent.

Do you really want to live in a world where a kid with an ounce of pot is allowed to just roam the streets? It would anarchy! Think of the children!!!


Giving an incorrect statement to an FBI agent that arrives at your front door will get you five years in prison.

Hacking into a computer system?  20 years minimum (and about to get a lot worse).

Possessing an ounce of pot is a misdemeanor.  But if you're holding paraphernalia in PA, that's twice as harsh as just having the pot to begin with.

Minimum sentencing.  Three strikes and you're out.  Trying children as adults.  Putting mentally ill people into supermax solitary and throwing away the key.

If God decides to smite the USA, these are the crimes He will smite us for.
2013-04-03 11:05:21 AM
2 votes:

KhamanV: Though racist music probably means shiat like Prussian Blue are popular.


Only their first few albums were about white supremacy.  As they got older they segued into writing songs about kissing boys, and once they attended public school and started smoking pot, they repudiated their earlier work.
2013-04-03 10:57:18 AM
2 votes:

vpb: If he just got a gun he would be perfectly safe and untouchable.


Maybe the government can declare a mobile 10-foot radius around every prosecutor as a "gun free zone."

Passing laws solves everything.  Words are just like reality.
2013-04-03 10:08:07 AM
2 votes:

mysticcat: I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.


Most def

They started as a hate group but have been moving slowly away. Hell, one of their biggest allies is the Mexican Mafia, and we know how Aryan they are. Plus, their alliance with Italian mobs is a bit of a strange one, too.

I think that the AB is just another one of those prison gangs that is in it to make money. They do keep with the theme of hate because it is something that binds them together, but money speaks more than hate.

Nevertheless they are still dangerous and I still think they will kill a black man if given the opportunity.
2013-04-03 09:53:03 AM
2 votes:

Nabb1: Man, those white supremacists are pretty intense.  Has anyone tried to take them bowling?


I tried that with the KKK, but they took my baby away.  They took her away. Away from me.
2013-04-03 09:30:40 AM
2 votes:
I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.
2013-04-03 09:06:19 AM
2 votes:
Even the chickens are bigger in Texas.
2013-04-03 01:42:53 PM
1 votes:

moonscatter: vudukungfu: I see the big, bad DHS can use extreme rendition on a Canadian teenager, and bag him off to GITMO, but they don't have the testes to go after a real domestic terrorist.
Nice of them to spend your tax dollars on brass and glass, and not kick ass.

Wrong group, its DOJ not DHS.


The victims may be DOJ, but I think vudukungfu meant that the DHS should be treating this as domestic terrorism and doing something about it.  I have noticed that when a right-wing white guy does the sort of thing that we would normally associate with terrorists--such as plant a bomb along a parade route--it is always treated as an ordinary crime rather than a terrorist act.
2013-04-03 01:28:18 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: I see the big, bad DHS can use extreme rendition on a Canadian teenager, and bag him off to GITMO, but they don't have the testes to go after a real domestic terrorist.
Nice of them to spend your tax dollars on brass and glass, and not kick ass.


Wrong group, its DOJ not DHS.

They are actually two floors down from me, so I am really NOT getting a kick out of this entire thing. I don't blame the prosecutor at all for withdrawing if there are security concerns. The DOJ will bring in an experienced attorney from waaay out of state to handle the case.

And this has always been the risk when going after large groups - mafia, hate group, gangs... these groups use violence and intimidation as their core tools, and have no problem using them against officials. At least the people at the DOJ have extensive backup and protection at their beck and call - most local prosecutors do not have that option.
2013-04-03 01:15:41 PM
1 votes:

Jacobin: How the hell would you do a line up? Find 5 other guys with tats all over their faces and then try to read the tats?


Line-ups are terrible anyway, since the natural response is to pick the best match out of the six people who are there and instantly convince yourself that he's the guilty one. It's much better to say "that's the guy" or "that isn't the guy" to a series of individually-presented photographs of unknown number.

/just thought I'd mention that while we're on the subject of terrible crime-reduction methods
2013-04-03 01:15:20 PM
1 votes:
Blacks have gangs

Asians have gangs

Arabs have gangs

Whites have hate groups...

Funny how the law works, and punishes one more then the others.
2013-04-03 12:59:09 PM
1 votes:

pciszek: mysticcat: I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.

Either/Or fallacy.


that's like saying dahmer is more a murderer than he is a cannibal.

Does it even matter if a group is say 75% criminal and 25% hate?  or if they commit 'non-hate' crimes Mon to Fri anfd only hang gays, blacks and jews on Sat and Sun?
2013-04-03 12:57:07 PM
1 votes:

pciszek: WhoGAS: This was when it was still okay to be vocally racist, too, 80s and early 90s.

I hear that overt racism is more socially acceptable in the south now than it was in the 80's.


Oh, well if you heard it, I'm sure it's true.


onzmadi: Phinn: FLMountainMan: the SPLC focuses on the South

I'm going to start an organization called the "Yankee Asshole Law Center."

It's going to focus on gathering data (to give to the government) to track asshole behavior in places like New York and other Rust Belt sewers.

Anyone who promotes violating people's basic human rights to economic liberty, self-defense or freedom of association will end up on the YALC's Watch List as a member of a Hate Group.

hmmm the thought of someone from florida calling my reigion a sewer is kind of amusing.
back to your bibles guns and crushing poverty jethro


DERP.  Yes, the flourishing prosperty of Detroit and the rest of the Rust Belt.  I just wish I could live there.

StreetlightInTheGhetto:
There are a fair amount of black people in Jasper.  I doubt they are grabbing people because of their hair.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.

Yeah there's a fair amount of black people.  THERE ARE ALSO REALLY F--KING VIOLENT RACISTS.

Jesus Christ.  I hate the stuff I remember sometimes.


Jasper's 50% black.  And yes, there was a disgusting racially motivated murder there.   And yet it seems like every year, a black kid holding a soda bottle gets gunned down by a NYC cop.  Or sodomized with a plunger.  But New York, the second most segregated city in the country, is held out as some sort of racial utopia, while Jasper, TX is Stormfront Central.

I've never been to either city, but it's baffling to me how self-deluded the Northeast and Midwest are as to their own racial problems.
2013-04-03 12:51:08 PM
1 votes:
The news is saying white suopremacisists,  but the modus operandi is much more consistent with mexican drug gangs.

For some reason no one wants to tell the truth.

Suspicious?


\\ not the first time somnething like this has happened.
2013-04-03 12:50:20 PM
1 votes:
Ladies and gents, the republican base.
2013-04-03 12:39:36 PM
1 votes:

liam76: cman: mysticcat: I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.

Most def

They started as a hate group but have been moving slowly away.

They started as a prison gang.

the money is in the banana stand: Go to any smaller SE Texas city like Jasper, the Aryan brotherhood is still alive and active. My friend's car broke down in Jasper (white guy with dreads) and he was abducted by 2 guys and held in their bathroom. He managed to untie himself and sneak out the window and find his way to the highway. He was pretty sure bad stuff was going to happen to him because he had "n*gger hair". They have actual signs up pointing you to where their lovely gatherings are held along the road. These people are NOT friendly


There are a fair amount of black people in Jasper.  I doubt they are grabbing people because of their hair.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.

Yeah there's a fair amount of black people.  THERE ARE ALSO REALLY F--KING VIOLENT RACISTS.

Jesus Christ.  I hate the stuff I remember sometimes.
2013-04-03 12:30:25 PM
1 votes:

WhoGAS: right for the job because they need a Mexican or Asian


I see you applied to Waste Management, eh?  My buddy, a very qualified truck driver, was told to his face that they would hire only a person of Mexican ancestry.
2013-04-03 12:29:04 PM
1 votes:

KhamanV: KhamanV: Mugato: There are still Aryan hate groups outside of prison? That actually do things? I thought nowadays they all just sit around writing on Stormfront and drink Pabst Blue Ribbon. I guess I'm sheltered.

SPLC has an interactive map ---

I forgot to add that Texas has 62 groups.  In their state, the vast majority of these groups are white supremacist, including 26 chapters of the Ku Klux Klan.

holy shiatsnacks, a link!


Surely not in my city, with its modern infrastructure, cosmopolitan denizens, and gay mayor....

....well, only 3 within the city limits. And it looks like there's a KKK office on the same street as a Black Panther Party office. Wonder if they have a corporate softball league.

/not looking up which street that is on my work computer
2013-04-03 12:22:17 PM
1 votes:

pciszek: WhoGAS: This was when it was still okay to be vocally racist, too, 80s and early 90s.

I hear that overt racism is more socially acceptable in the south now than it was in the 80's.


Not sure about that.  I haven't been back to Texas in about four years.  I do visit Oklahoma when a relative dies (5 in this last 12 month time-span including dad and sister) so I tend to interact with them often; well, the ones who are left - heh.

The Oklahomans, whatever race/creed/color, are much friendlier and welcoming than anyone around me in San Diego/Poway have ever been so I don't think it's bad.

Here (CA), I feel the racism deeply...as a white person, I had never encountered it before but here, just wow...being told that you aren't right for the job because they need a Mexican or Asian...Nah, they're not that bad, but if you're not the same race as the person you run into, well you have no chance at becoming friends.
2013-04-03 12:14:51 PM
1 votes:
the AB and Bandidos share members. My uncle was in prison in Tx and joined the AB. Upon his release he joined the Bandidos. Was a member in good standing with both. Until he died of a overdose..
2013-04-03 12:00:50 PM
1 votes:

pciszek: WhoGAS: This was when it was still okay to be vocally racist, too, 80s and early 90s.

I hear that overt racism is more socially acceptable in the south now than it was in the 80's.


No not really.
2013-04-03 11:36:18 AM
1 votes:

WhoGAS: This was when it was still okay to be vocally racist, too, 80s and early 90s.


I hear that overt racism is more socially acceptable in the south now than it was in the 80's.
2013-04-03 11:27:22 AM
1 votes:

Phinn: FLMountainMan: the SPLC focuses on the South

I'm going to start an organization called the "Yankee Asshole Law Center."

It's going to focus on gathering data (to give to the government) to track asshole behavior in places like New York and other Rust Belt sewers.

Anyone who promotes violating people's basic human rights to economic liberty, self-defense or freedom of association will end up on the YALC's Watch List as a member of a Hate Group.


Oh, look.  It's THIS guy.  Everyone point and laugh.

/Now tell us your opinion on the UN.  I'm sure we'll all be shocked.
2013-04-03 11:26:49 AM
1 votes:

cman: Plus, their alliance with Italian mobs is a bit of a strange one, too.


Not at all; Aryan hate groups have made their peace with Catholics before.
2013-04-03 11:24:55 AM
1 votes:
Serious question here:  Did the Mafia ever do anything as gutsy as assassinate prosecuting attorneys?
2013-04-03 11:20:01 AM
1 votes:

Mugato: orclover: Makes me wonder if the Aryans and the Banditos have a truce or what.

Almost every racist I've heard of make exceptions for "the good ones" when it's convenient.


As I recall the Japanese were made honorary Aryans, but the Chinese were not.  And no, Godwin's Law does not apply when we are discussing a group that calls itself The Aryan Brotherhood.
2013-04-03 11:11:57 AM
1 votes:

FLMountainMan: the SPLC focuses on the South


I'm going to start an organization called the "Yankee Asshole Law Center."

It's going to focus on gathering data (to give to the government) to track asshole behavior in places like New York and other Rust Belt sewers.

Anyone who promotes violating people's basic human rights to economic liberty, self-defense or freedom of association will end up on the YALC's Watch List as a member of a Hate Group.
2013-04-03 11:09:18 AM
1 votes:
This is the kind of thing that happens in broken societies.  Mexico.  It happens in Mexico.  Texas has become a hell of sand.

And I wonder where these guys get their money from?  Prohibition.  The prohibition on pot fuels these guys.  Why are we in the united states so farking stupid?
2013-04-03 11:05:24 AM
1 votes:

cman: mysticcat: I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.

Most def

They started as a hate group but have been moving slowly away.


They started as a prison gang.

the money is in the banana stand: Go to any smaller SE Texas city like Jasper, the Aryan brotherhood is still alive and active. My friend's car broke down in Jasper (white guy with dreads) and he was abducted by 2 guys and held in their bathroom. He managed to untie himself and sneak out the window and find his way to the highway. He was pretty sure bad stuff was going to happen to him because he had "n*gger hair". They have actual signs up pointing you to where their lovely gatherings are held along the road. These people are NOT friendly


There are a fair amount of black people in Jasper.  I doubt they are grabbing people because of their hair.
2013-04-03 11:02:37 AM
1 votes:

orclover: Makes me wonder if the Aryans and the Banditos have a truce or what.


Almost every racist I've heard of make exceptions for "the good ones" when it's convenient.
2013-04-03 11:01:33 AM
1 votes:

mysticcat: I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.


I saw almost all of American History X on Encore the other night, so I am pretty much an expert on this topic. You're right.
2013-04-03 11:00:49 AM
1 votes:

KhamanV: orclover: Mugato: the money is in the banana stand: Go to any smaller SE Texas city like Jasper, the Aryan brotherhood is still alive and active.

I'll take your word for it.

Dont know how bad Vidor is still these days.

Vidor currently has an active KKK community.  Checking around, it still has its sundowner status among locals and remains an example of the worst the deep south has to offer.


I think its time for another regional "sundown town" news story.  Maybe a couple weeks of it when the rest of the news has died down and we have a lull.  Or maybe a lot of advertising showing places like that as a ironic place to put up a giant condo and coffee shops.  Let the hipsters invade and breed the locals out of existence.  Yea, I like that idea.
2013-04-03 10:55:05 AM
1 votes:

cman: mysticcat: I think they're more of a criminal gang than a hate group.

Most def

They started as a hate group but have been moving slowly away. Hell, one of their biggest allies is the Mexican Mafia, and we know how Aryan they are. Plus, their alliance with Italian mobs is a bit of a strange one, too.

I think that the AB is just another one of those prison gangs that is in it to make money. They do keep with the theme of hate because it is something that binds them together, but money speaks more than hate.

Nevertheless they are still dangerous and I still think they will kill a black man if given the opportunity.


so they're republicans then?
2013-04-03 10:53:06 AM
1 votes:

Mr_H: /25 in Michigan
//thought there would have been more up north


Nah, the north doesn't care about the skin color of the trolls, so long as they bring the tourism dollars with them and buy plenty of pasties and fudge
2013-04-03 10:52:59 AM
1 votes:
Gecko Gingrich:

Maryland has it's share of "White Nationalist" and "Racist Skinhead" groups, but the two that stand out for me are the "General Hate" group and the "Racist Music" group.

All I can picture for general hate is Bill Hicks' 'People who hate people' party, which I'm oddly sort of charmed by.  I'm thinking the reality is more depressing.  Though racist music probably means shiat like Prussian Blue are popular.
2013-04-03 10:51:01 AM
1 votes:

orclover: Mugato: the money is in the banana stand: Go to any smaller SE Texas city like Jasper, the Aryan brotherhood is still alive and active.

I'll take your word for it.

Dont know how bad Vidor is still these days.


Vidor currently has an active KKK community.  Checking around, it still has its sundowner status among locals and remains an example of the worst the deep south has to offer.
2013-04-03 10:50:50 AM
1 votes:

KhamanV: Mugato: There are still Aryan hate groups outside of prison? That actually do things? I thought nowadays they all just sit around writing on Stormfront and drink Pabst Blue Ribbon. I guess I'm sheltered.

SPLC has an interactive map where you can find all the extremist groups operating in the US (white supremacist, actual radical islamists, militant anti-gay, etc).  It's about as heartwarming as the one where you can see where the fallout would spread if your area got hit by a nuke.

/35 hate groups in my state
/16 of them are white supremacist, including KKK
/fun fun fun


Maryland has it's share of "White Nationalist" and "Racist Skinhead" groups, but the two that stand out for me are the "General Hate" group and the "Racist Music" group.
2013-04-03 10:48:44 AM
1 votes:

orclover: Makes me wonder if the Aryans and the Banditos have a truce or what.


Where do you think they get the meth that they sell?
2013-04-03 10:47:33 AM
1 votes:
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often and on a much larger scale. If you're innocent of a crime and have no money or connections, you're going to get royally screwed. You take someone who gets screwed, maybe they snap, maybe they get the Big C, maybe they go Full Dorner. What else do they have? They're not getting a good job with that record. Clearing your name costs big bucks, so that's not an option. I'm just really surprised this doesn't happen more often.

I actually have jury duty next week and I pretty much require uncontested, smoking gun type evidence to convict, especially given the widely reported corruption in my state's crime lab. Unfortunately, in my neck of the woods, questioning evidence usually results in getting shouted down pretty hard in the jury room, so you have to have thick skin.
2013-04-03 10:47:21 AM
1 votes:

Mugato: the money is in the banana stand: Go to any smaller SE Texas city like Jasper, the Aryan brotherhood is still alive and active.

I'll take your word for it.


Dont know how bad Vidor is still these days.  Not long ago you could visit there, if you were black, but dont get caught there after sundown.   Texas has a few "sundown" towns.  Whenever I visit my relatives around the state I get reminded of the fact that once you leave Austin, you are in fact in farking Texas.  Makes me wonder if the Aryans and the Banditos have a truce or what.
2013-04-03 10:43:11 AM
1 votes:

KhamanV: Mugato: There are still Aryan hate groups outside of prison? That actually do things? I thought nowadays they all just sit around writing on Stormfront and drink Pabst Blue Ribbon. I guess I'm sheltered.

SPLC has an interactive map ---


I forgot to add that Texas has 62 groups.  In their state, the vast majority of these groups are white supremacist, including 26 chapters of the Ku Klux Klan.

holy shiatsnacks, a link!
2013-04-03 10:41:23 AM
1 votes:

vicioushobbit: the money is in the banana stand: Mugato: There are still Aryan hate groups outside of prison? That actually do things? I thought nowadays they all just sit around writing on Stormfront and drink Pabst Blue Ribbon. I guess I'm sheltered.

Go to any smaller SE Texas city like Jasper, the Aryan brotherhood is still alive and active. My friend's car broke down in Jasper (white guy with dreads) and he was abducted by 2 guys and held in their bathroom. He managed to untie himself and sneak out the window and find his way to the highway. He was pretty sure bad stuff was going to happen to him because he had "n*gger hair". They have actual signs up pointing you to where their lovely gatherings are held along the road. These people are NOT friendly.

Police report? I'm assuming if he snuck out the bathroom and made it to the highway he made note of the house's location.


Yes. This was about 6 years ago. The police investigated but apparently the house was an abandoned dwelling so nothing came of it other than me avoiding that stretch of land at all possible.
2013-04-03 10:41:13 AM
1 votes:
They need to come down hard on this hate group.  Making someone back down publically like this will only embolden them.  And that will make them kill again.
2013-04-03 10:39:48 AM
1 votes:

Mugato: There are still Aryan hate groups outside of prison? That actually do things? I thought nowadays they all just sit around writing on Stormfront and drink Pabst Blue Ribbon. I guess I'm sheltered.


SPLC has an interactive map where you can find all the extremist groups operating in the US (white supremacist, actual radical islamists, militant anti-gay, etc).  It's about as heartwarming as the one where you can see where the fallout would spread if your area got hit by a nuke.

/35 hate groups in my state
/16 of them are white supremacist, including KKK
/fun fun fun
2013-04-03 10:38:47 AM
1 votes:

the money is in the banana stand: Mugato: There are still Aryan hate groups outside of prison? That actually do things? I thought nowadays they all just sit around writing on Stormfront and drink Pabst Blue Ribbon. I guess I'm sheltered.

Go to any smaller SE Texas city like Jasper, the Aryan brotherhood is still alive and active. My friend's car broke down in Jasper (white guy with dreads) and he was abducted by 2 guys and held in their bathroom. He managed to untie himself and sneak out the window and find his way to the highway. He was pretty sure bad stuff was going to happen to him because he had "n*gger hair". They have actual signs up pointing you to where their lovely gatherings are held along the road. These people are NOT friendly.


Police report? I'm assuming if he snuck out the bathroom and made it to the highway he made note of the house's location.
2013-04-03 10:37:42 AM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: This is what happens when you incarcerate nearly one percent of your total population.  Things will really get fun when we hit two percent.


Do you really want to live in a world where a kid with an ounce of pot is allowed to just roam the streets? It would anarchy! Think of the children!!!
2013-04-03 10:34:51 AM
1 votes:
Time to send in Janet Reno and the ATF?
2013-04-03 10:32:58 AM
1 votes:

hej: vpb: If he just got a gun he would be perfectly safe and untouchable.

Or at least he'd be able to shoot back.


Don't waste your time.  vpb is a shill for the VPC.
2013-04-03 10:31:57 AM
1 votes:

THX 1138: Nabb1: Man, those white supremacists are pretty intense.  Has anyone tried to take them bowling?

I did once.  Drove them to the bowling alley in my camper van.


Oh you. Just do it already.
2013-04-03 10:31:10 AM
1 votes:
someone's taking that * kill all lawyers * thing pretty seriously
2013-04-03 10:23:36 AM
1 votes:
So much for being tough on crime.
hej
2013-04-03 10:23:28 AM
1 votes:

vpb: If he just got a gun he would be perfectly safe and untouchable.


Or at least he'd be able to shoot back.
2013-04-03 10:09:45 AM
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To be fair, my experiences with prosecutors leads me to believe they are all sadistic pricks.
2013-04-03 09:49:14 AM
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Man, those white supremacists are pretty intense.  Has anyone tried to take them bowling?
 
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