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(The Raw Story)   How do you defeat a school voucher bill in a red state? Simply point out that it will benefit Muslim schools and watch the backpedaling break the speed of sound   (rawstory.com) divider line 136
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2013-04-03 10:30:24 AM
Last week, Ketron had demanded answers from state Senate Clerk Russell Humphrey over concerns that a floor-level sink installed outside the House chamber men's restroom could be intended to accommodate Muslims' ritual of washing their feet before prayer.

Humphrey took the matter up with Legislative Administration Director Connie Ridley, who assured the men in an email that "the floor-level sink installed in the men's restroom outside the House Chamber is for housekeeping use."

"It is, in layman's terms, a mop sink," Ridley wrote.


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2013-04-03 10:33:09 AM
Proving once again that every jackass who claims that there is no separation of church and state really just wants their own religion privileged.
 
2013-04-03 10:59:52 AM
Every legislator who's signed onto this bill should be locked into an outhouse and set on fire.
 
2013-04-03 11:00:25 AM
Yet another reason to avoid the entire state of Tennessee.
 
2013-04-03 11:02:49 AM
Holy crap, how are these people able to function when they're constantly shiatting themselves in fear about Muslims?
 
2013-04-03 11:03:23 AM
mmmmmmm. The schadenfreude is even more delicious when you spread it on a warm bagel. MMMMMMmmmMMMM! So good. Oh I could just lick it off my fingers.
 
2013-04-03 11:04:46 AM
Once again; they failed to think their cunning plan all the way through
 
2013-04-03 11:05:05 AM
Republicans are all about religious freedom, as long as it's their religion.
 
2013-04-03 11:06:30 AM

monoski: Once again; they failed to think their cunning plan all the way through

 
2013-04-03 11:06:41 AM

monoski: they failed to think


you could've stopped after think
 
2013-04-03 11:08:29 AM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: mmmmmmm. The schadenfreude is even more delicious when you spread it on a warm bagel. MMMMMMmmmMMMM! So good. Oh I could just lick it off my fingers.


Standing on it's own, this is a good post. But as it follows directly on the heels of the entries made by tnpir and Car_Ramrod, it's kind of ewww.
 
2013-04-03 11:08:41 AM
Surely  derp jujiutsu can be utilized in other political uses.

"Moar miltiary spending !!   Support our troops !!!  Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran!!!"

"You do realize that most military volunteers come from poor families, and that many are minorities?   And after they've served their tour, these poor minorities are provided tax payer provided benefits for life?"

"OMGZ SLASH THE MILITARY BUDGET !!!!"
 
2013-04-03 11:10:48 AM
The bill will be back with an clause excluding Muslim schools.
 
2013-04-03 11:10:57 AM

Car_Ramrod: Holy crap, how are these people able to function when they're constantly shiatting themselves in fear about Muslims?


Fortunately for them, they (like all Republicans) are also coprophages. That's how you can tell how fearful a Republican is: Look at how fat it is. More fear, more food, more fat.
 
2013-04-03 11:11:14 AM
These guys aren't even pretending they're not bigots. Just read those words, the confidence this man has... He's not backpedaling, he's stating clearly... "Yeah the bill won't work cause it might help towelheads."

Amazing...
 
2013-04-03 11:11:16 AM

sigdiamond2000: Last week, Ketron had demanded answers from state Senate Clerk Russell Humphrey over concerns that a floor-level sink installed outside the House chamber men's restroom could be intended to accommodate Muslims' ritual of washing their feet before prayer.

Humphrey took the matter up with Legislative Administration Director Connie Ridley, who assured the men in an email that "the floor-level sink installed in the men's restroom outside the House Chamber is for housekeeping use."

"It is, in layman's terms, a mop sink," Ridley wrote.

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I submitted this very story a while back.
Link

With this headline:
The long nightmare in Tennessee is over. All Muslim foot baths have been eliminated from the states Capitol building, the laser like focus on jobs and economic recover can now recommence. God bless America.


It has a picture of the foot bath in question.
 
2013-04-03 11:12:47 AM
I honestly wonder if they don't recognize their blatant hypocritical bigotry, or if they simply don't care.

/so glad I left Tennessee years ago
 
2013-04-03 11:12:49 AM
Don't worry, I'm sure they'll rewrite it to require all voucher schools to receive large amounts of pork, as in literal pork, to be served exclusively in the cafeteria or something.
 
2013-04-03 11:13:47 AM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Proving once again that every jackass who claims that there is no separation of church and state really just wants their own religion privileged.


It would show them why a "Wall of Separation" is a great thing to have - if they weren't so busy trying to find ways to breach it.
 
2013-04-03 11:14:20 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Republicans are all about religious freedom, as long as it's their religion.


I've said for years that conservatives want to grant you the freedom to be just like them.
 
2013-04-03 11:14:48 AM

bigbadideasinaction: Don't worry, I'm sure they'll rewrite it to require all voucher schools to receive large amounts of pork, as in literal pork, to be served exclusively in the cafeteria or something.


Or at the very least, require them to field a football team in state conferences. These things have to be subtle in order to work.
 
2013-04-03 11:15:09 AM
Dear Tennessee,

   You know who else created laws to socially persecute a religious minority?


Signed,
PapaChester
 
2013-04-03 11:15:48 AM

Raharu: I submitted this very story a while back.


Why would they...I don't...uhh...huh?

I don't even know where to begin with this.

Why on Earth would they think the Tennessee capitol building would ever install a "Muslim footbath" in the first place? I mean, did they think the state was going to turn the House chamber into an Islamic prayer room?

It just doesn't make any sense...
 
2013-04-03 11:15:49 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The bill will be back with an clause excluding Muslim schools.


Because Tennessee loves to spend money defending against lawsuits.
 
2013-04-03 11:17:01 AM
Damn inbreeders...
 
2013-04-03 11:17:02 AM

PapaChester: Dear Tennessee,

   You know who else created laws to socially persecute a religious minority?


Signed,
PapaChester


These guys?

www.midwesttvguy.com
 
2013-04-03 11:17:07 AM
Louisiana did this last year, get in the game late comers!!  Our dumbass governor gave millions to a basketball court and 5 DVD players that called itself a school. For some strange reason the Muslims withdrew their voucher request only after it hit the fan and legislator found out that religion went beyond sports and christians.
 
2013-04-03 11:17:58 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The bill will be back with an clause excluding Muslim schools.


Well, that would fit right in with the trend of Republican states brazenly passing laws that are blatantly unconstitutional.

See also:  ND abortion law.
See also:  Link a few down about NC's establishment of religion bill.

I wonder if someday the conservative voters in these "fiscally conservative" states will tire of pouring tax dollars down the black hole of court defense of bad laws that are doomed to be struck down.
 
2013-04-03 11:19:04 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The bill will be back with an clause excluding Muslim schools.


And when it hits the Supreme Court, Scalia will argue that the Constitution protects against the ESTABLISHMENT of a national religion, and not the exclusion of one.  Because he's such an originalist.
 
2013-04-03 11:19:29 AM

geek_mars: I honestly wonder if they don't recognize their blatant hypocritical bigotry, or if they simply don't care.

/so glad I left Tennessee years ago


When your constituents are bigots it's easier to be one so openly.  In a decade or so when this kind of behavior is unacceptable anywhere and they're challenged on the stances they took in the past, they'll dismiss it as a different period in history and a product of it's time, or some other apologist nonsense.
 
2013-04-03 11:19:57 AM

Doc Daneeka: LouDobbsAwaaaay: The bill will be back with an clause excluding Muslim schools.

Well, that would fit right in with the trend of Republican states brazenly passing laws that are blatantly unconstitutional.

See also:  ND abortion law.
See also:  Link a few down about NC's establishment of religion bill.

I wonder if someday the conservative voters in these "fiscally conservative" states will tire of pouring tax dollars down the black hole of court defense of bad laws that are doomed to be struck down.


One man's pouring tax dollars down the black hole of court defense of bad laws is another man's job creatin'.
 
2013-04-03 11:20:39 AM

geek_mars: I honestly wonder if they don't recognize their blatant hypocritical bigotry, or if they simply don't care.

/so glad I left Tennessee years ago


A lot of people cannot feel empathy for a situation unless it happens to themselves, a family member, or somebody else they intimately care about. Example: Senator Rob Portman decides he supports the rights of same-sex couples to get married because his son comes out to him as gay.
 
2013-04-03 11:20:43 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The bill will be back with an clause excluding Muslim schools.


And then some lousy activist judge will smack it down.  If these judges would study out the Constitution like Justice Scalia, then they would see that all of the Founding Fathers agreed on everything but mostly that there should be school vouchers paid for by taxes that did not yet exist and only given to Christian schools.

Just study it out.
 
2013-04-03 11:20:48 AM
They just need to adopt the North Carolina religious establishment law from the other thread.
 
2013-04-03 11:22:46 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Republicans are all about religious freedom, as long as it's their religion.


FTFY
 
2013-04-03 11:23:34 AM
I foresee this exact same thing happening in Kentucky with their "religious freedom" law that they passed over governor veto.  Someone who practices Sharia law will raise the law as a shield against government interference/prosecution, and the GOPers who passed the law will, as you say, backtrack at the speed of sound.
 
2013-04-03 11:24:28 AM
On one hand, we need to use any legal means possible to stop these Christian theocrats from entrenching themselves further, on the other hand, the bigotry displayed that is causing the backpedaling disgusts me.
 
2013-04-03 11:26:23 AM

InmanRoshi: Surely  derp jujiutsu can be utilized in other political uses.

"Moar miltiary spending !!   Support our troops !!!  Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran!!!"

"You do realize that most military volunteers come from poor families, and that many are minorities?   And after they've served their tour, these poor minorities are provided tax payer provided benefits for life?"

"OMGZ SLASH THE MILITARY BUDGET !!!!"


WaPo op-ed last week or so said just that (the second part). My "conservative" friend who sucks at te disability teat sent me that without a hint of irony.
 
2013-04-03 11:28:07 AM

sigdiamond2000: Why on Earth would they think the Tennessee capitol building would ever install a "Muslim footbath" in the first place? I mean, did they think the state was going to turn the House chamber into an Islamic prayer room?


Yes, in fact, there are people who are in mortal fear that this is exactly the road we are headed down. Seriously.
 
2013-04-03 11:28:12 AM
FTFA: Tracy, who is on the Senate Education Committee and identifies himself as a member of the Church of Christ, insisted that Islamic school funding was an "an issue we must address" before the voucher bill can go forward.

"I don't know whether we can simply amend the bill in such a way that will fix the issue at this point," he said.


Because that would be unconstitutional, you jackass?
 
2013-04-03 11:28:56 AM

monoski: Once again; they failed to think their cunning plan all the way through


Also known as "Hoisted on your own teatard".
 
2013-04-03 11:33:58 AM

Doc Daneeka: I wonder if someday the conservative voters in these "fiscally conservative" states will tire of pouring tax dollars down the black hole of court defense of bad laws that are doomed to be struck down.


I doubt it.  Many of them actually think this is a good use of taxpayer money.  If it means successfully changing the law so that their religious beliefs are enshrined, then it will be all worth it to them.  They think they've been fighting the good fight for two thousand years.  They're not going to stop until this country becomes a Christian theocracy.
 
2013-04-03 11:35:34 AM

AMonkey'sUncle: WaPo op-ed last week or so said just that (the second part). My "conservative" friend who sucks at te disability teat sent me that without a hint of irony.


Yeah, in the Derpistan area of Texas I grew up, I knew a lot of family/former associates/ex-classmates on SSI/disability for mysterious back and chronic pain issues (complete with percocet and oxycontin popping habits) who have plenty of free time to forward to me lots of articles and chain emails about the moocher class sucking this country dry.
 
2013-04-03 11:41:16 AM

InmanRoshi: AMonkey'sUncle: WaPo op-ed last week or so said just that (the second part). My "conservative" friend who sucks at te disability teat sent me that without a hint of irony.

Yeah, in the Derpistan area of Texas I grew up, I knew a lot of family/former associates/ex-classmates on SSI/disability for mysterious back and chronic pain issues (complete with percocet and oxycontin popping habits) who have plenty of free time to forward to me lots of articles and chain emails about the moocher class sucking this country dry.


As a person with chronic back pain issues resulting from injuries during my years of "youthful indiscretion", I would like to know more about obtaining these disability payments. I don't currently have an oxycontin or percocet habit, but if it's vital to the process I'm willing to give it a whirl.
 
2013-04-03 11:43:44 AM
It's not just red states. I live in Los Angeles, about as libbidy lib-lib that ever libbed. I go to a UU church, just about the most libby libbidy lib-lib religion out there.

And any time I bring up the idea that we celebrate Ramadan instead of Easter, OMG you should see the faces. It's like I stuck a turd under their nose. And the best part is when these intelligent, highly educated, sophisticated, some pretty damn wealthy, wonderful human beings try to communicate what is wrong with celebrating Ramadan instead of Easter when clearly they can't because a) they're too emotional over it and b) there IS no logical reason they can give me. I'm in CALIFORNIA for Christ's sakes.

But at least they let me teach the kids how to wear hijab. *sigh* If I can't convince the adults, then at least I can give the kids some perspective.

/"Be the change you want to see in the world." Gandhi never met any of the folks at my church. :P
//currently having issues because I want to plant a garden in a space that everyone wants to see used as a garden, but I might not be able to simply because "you didn't go through the right channels," even if it's at no cost to them
///bad as corporate fricking america
 
2013-04-03 11:47:56 AM
at this rate Tennessee is gonna get its own tag before Texass
 
2013-04-03 11:48:07 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: The bill will be back with an clause excluding Muslim schools.


THAT would definitely be unconstitutional, which I bet just really sticks in their craw. They'd love to be able to do that, but that pesky Constitution is preventing them from only funding the "right" religion. And they don't even see the irony about how they're upset that their tax dollars might be used to support religions they don't believe in.
 
2013-04-03 11:48:57 AM

More_Like_A_Stain: InmanRoshi: AMonkey'sUncle: WaPo op-ed last week or so said just that (the second part). My "conservative" friend who sucks at te disability teat sent me that without a hint of irony.

Yeah, in the Derpistan area of Texas I grew up, I knew a lot of family/former associates/ex-classmates on SSI/disability for mysterious back and chronic pain issues (complete with percocet and oxycontin popping habits) who have plenty of free time to forward to me lots of articles and chain emails about the moocher class sucking this country dry.

As a person with chronic back pain issues resulting from injuries during my years of "youthful indiscretion", I would like to know more about obtaining these disability payments. I don't currently have an oxycontin or percocet habit, but if it's vital to the process I'm willing to give it a whirl.


Here's a pretty good This American Life podcast on the subject.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/490/trends-wi th -benefits
 
2013-04-03 11:49:35 AM

fozziewazzi: geek_mars: I honestly wonder if they don't recognize their blatant hypocritical bigotry, or if they simply don't care.

/so glad I left Tennessee years ago

When your constituents are bigots it's easier to be one so openly.  In a decade or so when this kind of behavior is unacceptable anywhere and they're challenged on the stances they took in the past, they'll dismiss it as a different period in history and a product of it's time, or some other apologist nonsense.


No, much like their revisionism about defeating racism and segregation in the 60s, they'll claim that it was they who were the actual brave pioneers who transformed society, and the liberals and Democrats were the oppressors.
 
2013-04-03 11:50:46 AM

birchman: LouDobbsAwaaaay: The bill will be back with an clause excluding Muslim schools.

THAT would definitely be unconstitutional, which I bet just really sticks in their craw. They'd love to be able to do that, but that pesky Constitution is preventing them from only funding the "right" religion. And they don't even see the irony about how they're upset that their tax dollars might be used to support religions they don't believe in.


there's nothing really ironic about it. They WANT their tax dollars to support ONLY religions they believe in. That's the point, not an unexpected result.
 
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